ED Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 Personally I wouldn't lose any sleep if all Arabs and Jews were wiped off the face of the earth. I'm very apathetic when it comes to either. Politically I support both Lebanon and Hezbollah for the very simple reason that Israel is anti-Armenian. thats a very bold statment pal, how would you feel if lebanese and jews etc......feel the same for Armenians? lets say you go to middle eastern forum and read something similar about Artsax war eh? the issue, and in esence this topic is political and not personal in nature, lets keep some of the cheap talk away from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eurocentric Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 thats a very bold statment pal, how would you feel if lebanese and jews etc......feel the same for Armenians? lets say you go to middle eastern forum and read something similar about Artsax war eh? Well chico, quite frankly I wouldn't give a rats ass. That's where the apathy kicks in. the issue, and in esence this topic is political and not personal in nature, lets keep some of the cheap talk away from it. Did I not start off with personally? Nor was I the first to give my own point of view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 (edited) Well chico, quite frankly I wouldn't give a rats ass. That's where the apathy kicks in. Did I not start off with personally? Nor was I the first to give my own point of view. well i guess then you give an ass where ever you wish, but keep your posts constractive and polish that thoung a bit my second comment was not directed to you only, but to all participants in general of this thread, chicotik Edited July 17, 2006 by Edward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eurocentric Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 well i guess then you give an ass where ever you wish, but keep your posts constractive and polish that thoung a bit Kajdi dumayet po mere svoey isporchennosti Vat mi zga lav. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accelerated Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 Israel attempts to invade Lebanon at numerous locations but HezbAllah fighters push them back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 I understand how there can be a LOT (and many of it justified) negative feelings about Israel. But no matter how much you hate Israel, I cannot comprehend how anyone can be supportive of Hezbolla or ANY radical muslim group Are the enemies of my enemies are my friends? Not often, especially when dealing with a bunch of, I repeat, MORONS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyethga Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 Arabs and Israel supported and aided Azerbaijan during the Karabakh war. In the conflict, both sides are guilty but Israel is the one that has been the source of many of the conflicts in the past 25 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 18, 2006 Report Share Posted July 18, 2006 The difference is that some Muslim mercenaries from Central Asia (not necessarily Arabs) aided Azerbaijan, while at the same time, the Israeli government aided Azerbaijan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted July 18, 2006 Report Share Posted July 18, 2006 Can someone please tell me what Hezbolla has done for Armenia? Also between Azerbaijan and Turkey vs Armenia, which side would Hezbolla be on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verginne Posted July 18, 2006 Report Share Posted July 18, 2006 Ruben, please don't take the words of one hot-head so seriously. Vergin's political viewpoint is notorious and as a result has been the recipient of several warnings. VAVA = http://209.85.12.231/652/20/emo/blabla.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted July 18, 2006 Report Share Posted July 18, 2006 http://209.85.12.231/652/20/emo/blabla.gif Cute, MosJan, can we have the smilie incorporated in the forum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verginne Posted July 18, 2006 Report Share Posted July 18, 2006 Verginne is talking for himself regarding the "unwanted" part. Sip obviously doesn't know anything about Armenian names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted July 18, 2006 Report Share Posted July 18, 2006 ... or maybe Sip doesn't tend to assume anything about a person by their forum name alone? But my appologies if I should've used "herself" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 18, 2006 Report Share Posted July 18, 2006 Can someone please tell me what Hezbolla has done for Armenia? Also between Azerbaijan and Turkey vs Armenia, which side would Hezbolla be on? Hezballah might not have done much for the Republic of Armenia, but its Iranian ally has certainly done plenty. The predecessor of Hezballah, the PLO (formerly based in southern Lebanon) was close with ASALA. Furthermore, I wouldn't be surprised if relations between Hezballah and the Armenians of Lebanon (more specifically the Tashnags) were cordial during the Civil War. The pro-Israel Maronite militia was one of the groups that the Armenians had to face simply because Armenians desired to be neutral throughout the conflict. Thus Hezballah became a natural ally... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sassun Posted July 18, 2006 Report Share Posted July 18, 2006 Are the enemies of my enemies are my friends? Yes when the enemy is bombing PEOPLE and civilian houses and claiming it hit HezbAllah fighters and weapons stockpiles. Yes, the enemy of my enemy is my BEST friend in such a case. Sip - just because HezbAllah is Shi'ite and Azeris are Shi'ite doesn't mean that they are going to side with Azerbaijan. Anyway for Azeris these days their Turkic "identity" matters more than their "Shi'ite" one especially as things get more tense between the Azeri minority in Iran and the Iranian government. Monte Melkonian, one of our heroes in Artsakh, fought against the Israelis alongside the Palestinians and Lebanese Muslims. I do not see anything wrong with that - just because they are Muslims does not mean they are our natural enemies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sassun Posted July 18, 2006 Report Share Posted July 18, 2006 Convoy of ambulances donated by UAE to the Red Cross targeted on the Dahr el-Baidar road. Trucks targeted on the Dhour Chweir-Zahle road. IAF claims they were carrying explosives and missiles. TV footage shows they were carrying FLOUR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sassun Posted July 18, 2006 Report Share Posted July 18, 2006 Israeli media stops reporting on the locations of the HezbAllah strikes due to a request by the Israeli government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kakachik77 Posted July 18, 2006 Report Share Posted July 18, 2006 I understand how there can be a LOT (and many of it justified) negative feelings about Israel. But no matter how much you hate Israel, I cannot comprehend how anyone can be supportive of Hezbolla or ANY radical muslim group Are the enemies of my enemies are my friends? Not often, especially when dealing with a bunch of, I repeat, MORONS. after they are "done" with Israel, they are going to turn to help their other shiite brothers, the azeris to liberate the lands taken by agressor Armenians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eurocentric Posted July 18, 2006 Report Share Posted July 18, 2006 (edited) Are the enemies of my enemies are my friends? Not often, especially when dealing with a bunch of, I repeat, MORONS. More than morons. Reminds me of the joke when during the British mandate a wealthy gentleman is in a bazzar in Jerusalem and approaches a man who sells human brains, he asks how much for this one? The seller says 5000 pounds, how much for the one next to it asks the Brit, the seller says 5 pounds. Why such a big gap in the prices? Because the one that's expensive was an Arab's brain, it's fresh and has never been used, the cheap one is a jew's brain. Here's another one. During the Six Day War the Jews are trying to get the Arabs out of the trenches so their snipers can shoot them. After deliberating for hours, they finally figure out a way. One of the jews goes near the trenches with a loudspeaker and yells "Hasssaaaaaaan". A bunch of Hassan's immediately stand up within the trenches and go "What?". Oh and Sip, here's a similar analogy btw. Don't most Armenians support Kurds against Turkey? Despite the fact that on the long run they are a bigger problem. Edited July 18, 2006 by Eurocentric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eurocentric Posted July 18, 2006 Report Share Posted July 18, 2006 (edited) after they are "done" with Israel, they are going to turn to help their other shiite brothers, the azeris to liberate the lands taken by agressor Armenians. That's retarded and so implausible. Why didn't Iran help their Shiite Azeri brethren against Armenians during the Artsakh liberation war? Oh wait, that's because they were helping Armenians! Religion has absolutely nothing to do with the Israeli-Arab conflict nor the Armenian-Azeri conflict!!!! Edited July 18, 2006 by Eurocentric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted July 18, 2006 Report Share Posted July 18, 2006 after they are "done" with Israel, they are going to turn to help their other shiite brothers, the azeris to liberate the lands taken by agressor Armenians. Yes. Please. Let’s put an end to this farce in the Middle Eat that has had the entire world as hostage for so long. Let them shoot one another until “Armageddon” , the end of the world. After all they are all, as they claim, the “sons of Abraham”, whoever it may be. Let’s put an end to it so we can shift our attention to the Caucasus.. And Asia Minor. Armenians have had very little to do with the Azeri/Tatars except a few minor incidents. Armenians have never coveted the lands east of Artsakh. Armenians have never claimed ownership of Baku. After all, what is Baku? A port on a “dead sea”? Yes the Caspian is a dead sea. Can we end this melodrama in the ME so we redirect the world’s attention to real issues like Armenia’s direct and unencumbered access to the world via the Black Sea? They have their Baku, Shiite or sh@@ty, shiite on them!. Get us the Pontian Sea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eurocentric Posted July 18, 2006 Report Share Posted July 18, 2006 Yes. Please. Let’s put an end to this farce in the Middle Eat that has had the entire world as hostage for so long. Let them shoot one another until “Armageddon” , the end of the world. After all they are all, as they claim, the “sons of Abraham”, whoever it may be. Let’s put an end to it so we can shift our attention to the Caucasus.. And Asia Minor. Armenians have had very little to do with the Azeri/Tatars except a few minor incidents. Armenians have never coveted the lands east of Artsakh. Armenians have never claimed ownership of Baku. After all, what is Baku? A port on a “dead sea”? Yes the Caspian is a dead sea. Can we end this melodrama in the ME so we redirect the world’s attention to real issues like Armenia’s direct and unencumbered access to the world via the Black Sea? They have their Baku, Shiite or sh@@ty, shiite on them!. Get us the Pontian Sea! Technically we have better historical claims to the Capsian Coast than the Black Sea coast. Only Armenia Inferior had a Black Sea coast as well as Byzantine Armenia but Greater Armenia had a Caspian Coast for almost a millenium. The province of Paytakaran known by Classical writers as Caspiane. Paytakaran consisted of 14 cantons: Herakot, Peroj, Vardanakert, Yotenporakyan Baguink, Krekyan, Vovtibagha, Kaghanost, Buros, Pitchanhani, Atli, Bagavan, Spandaraperoj, Vormizdeperoj and Alavan. Today these Armenian lands are in Azeri provinces of Lankaran and Salya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted July 18, 2006 Report Share Posted July 18, 2006 (edited) Israeli media stops reporting on the locations of the HezbAllah strikes due to a request by the Israeli government. What a contrast since the days of little Palestinian boys throwing rocks and in return being sprayed with (rubber?) bullets. When little boys and girls loaded with “suicidal” jackets would walk into crowded cafes. What went wrong? How did those know-it-all (omniscient) sons of the prophets msisprophesy that those “rocks” will not turn into “rockets”!! Of course, as long as the so called “Christian” world still believes that they are know-it-all omniscient people, what do they know? That they are the Adam and Eve of all mankind? The rest of the “unchosen” world will get to “know” a few more facts. Edited July 18, 2006 by Arpa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sassun Posted July 18, 2006 Report Share Posted July 18, 2006 NBN TV is now showing ghastly scenes of massacres of civilians to Armenian duduk music.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 18, 2006 Report Share Posted July 18, 2006 Nicosia - Cyprus, itself a victim of war more than three decades ago, has once again opened its ports and airports to help evacuate thousands of Lebanese and foreign nationals from the war- torn neighbouring country. As Israeli gunships and aircraft pounded Beirut's airport and seaport along with major highways out of the Lebanese capital, the Cyprus government pledged to provide every assistance to foreign and Lebanese nationals seeking shelter on the island. A senior government spokesman said that visa applications for Lebanese living in Europe and wishing to travel to Cyprus would be relaxed, reminiscent of the days during Lebanon's 15-year civil war, when the port towns of Limassol and Larnaca were dubbed Little Lebanon. Gone are the days when high street boutiques would have signs in Arabic, and every restaurant waiter would utter the occasional greeting of Salaam al-Aykum and recite the day's menu in Arabic or French, while offering free servings of Arak, the aniseed spirit similar to the Greek ouzo. Some of the few who stayed or married locally rushed to help Cyprus authorities with translations, while foreign governments are seeking bilingual or even trilingual speakers to assist at the ports and airports. The sleepy port of Larnaca, where the occasional cargo ship would anchor once a week, has come back to life. It is bustling with military and commercial ships and now has docked an Italian navy ship, which brought 483 Italians, Cypriots and others late Monday night, most of whom were bussed to nearby Larnaca airport to catch relief flights home. Anchored in the next berth is a Greek navy ship, its captain monitoring Olympic Airways flights from the Syrian cities of Damascus and Latakia to Larnaca and on to Athens. The nearby airport has a few stranded Middle East Airlines jets parked just off the runway as the area starts to be crowded by civilian and camouflage carriers emblazoned with government seals, almost like a mini-NATO convention. The French government chartered the 1,200-passenger Greek ferry Iera Petra, which is scheduled to arrive Tuesday morning in Larnaca with French and Swiss nationals on board and later return to Beirut to shuttle more stranded Europeans. Nayiri Mouradian - originally from Lebanon but married in Cyprus for two decades - was quoted by the local website Gibrahayer as saying: 'We were contacted by the Cypriot consul, who arranged for us to gather at the Greek Embassy on Thursday evening. From then on it was a long drive to the Syrian border, and everyone was scared because the Israeli bombing had not stopped.' 'For people who have not gone through this kind of experience it was very scary. My sons did not stop asking questions throughout the journey. They were frightened but relieved on arrival,' she said after arriving at Larnaca airport on board a Cyprus Airways flight. An 80-member Australian folk dance group of the Hamazkayin Armenian society opted to drive over the mountains and through Syria to Jordan to catch a rescue flight from Amman. Others sought to escape over land, but seven Canadian nationals and tens of other Lebanese lost their lives despite driving clearly marked mini-buses. The United States airlifted non-essential citizens Sunday from Beirut to Larnaca using a squadron of Marine CH-53 helicopters, while a commercial cruise ship will help evacuate more US citizens. Even the British Royal Navy has dispatched its aircraft carrier HMS Illustrious from Gibraltar to help evacuate British citizens, while the amphibious assault ship HMS Bulwark is reported to be on its way to the area as a precaution. The European Union has urged Israel to guarantee the safety of its citizens in Lebanon, as many crowded outside their embassies in Beirut, desperately looking for a way home. But that is all Brussels can do, stopping short of telling Israel to stop its shelling. For now the, EU is evacuating its citizens to Cyprus, the closest it can call home and a safe destination, despite being just 240 kilometres off Lebanon's bombed coastline. With many roads impassable and the airport disabled, European and other governments are resorting to chartering ships to pull their nationals out of the Lebanese capital and off to Cyprus to get final transport home. Once on Cyprus soil, the island's people are determined to repeat their warm hospitality and assistance, which brought Lebanese and Cypriots closer together in the last two decades. © 2006 dpa - Deutsche Presse-Agentur from: http://news.monstersandcritics.com/europe/...ar-torn_Lebanon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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