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I've only heard the term dziranakouyn on the internet through Eastern Armenian speakers.
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Those white blocks on the Artsakh flag symbolize its separation from Armenia, and I do like it as well. Why is our flag "garmir gabouyd dzirani" and not simply "garmir gabouyd narnchakouyn".
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Perhaps the Israelis figured out that they'd be making a bigger and costless wave by simply supporting Armenian genocide recognition.
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It is unfortunate to say this, but one can call easily consider the 1909 massacre a test-drive for the genocide...
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GAREGIN MEETS ALIYEV, VISITS ARMENIAN CHURCH IN BAKU
Dave replied to MosJan's topic in † Armenian Apostolic Church
I am surprised that he was granted permission to enter that abandoned church at all! -
And what shadow is this that you are talking about? The Illuminati? The Jews? Whatever it is it must also be controling Sargsyan then.
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HAHA @ the Georgian name Zviad Dzidziguri
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Nice list of articles, thanks. I'm glad that the Jewish leadership got our message and is finally changing its stance...
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Most likely the Ardashesian flag, or even the Arshagouni flag... I'm glad that the Armenian Church is preserving these ancient customs.
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I heard that the Tashnags want to sue Murr and Gemayel for their bad comments about Armenians, and for "encouraging sectarian strife".
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Well said, AK, well said...
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Expectations Of Renewed Fight Between Armenia And Azerbaijan Rising
Dave replied to abass80's topic in Republic of Armenia
Այս անգամ մինչեւ Կասպից ծով կը ղրկենք Ազերի Թուրքին եթէ այդպէս կ՛ուզէ: -
The author really says it well. The Armenian genocide really was a "template" for the Jewish Holocaust...
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Only Armenian Apostolic Church?
Dave replied to RemainFaithful's topic in † Armenian Apostolic Church
The ARF doesn't exactly "control" the Cilician Church. The ARF and the Armenian Catholicosate of Cilicia complementarize each other in order to create successful and sustainable Armenian communities throughout the world. That's how it is everywhere; from Beirut, to Montreal, to LA. It makes for pretty solid mini-societies. This is what has made them so successful over the years, and this is why the other Armenian political parties of the diaspora have evaporated from the scene. I don't see what's wrong about this... If the others can't do it, why shouldn't the tashnags do it themselves? Besides, it's not like the ramgavars wouldn't be able to pray in the church... Anyone can, even non-Armenians and non-Christians. Դաշնակցութեան դրօշին տակ միացէք ու վերջանանք ալ... -
Are you born in Iraq, Vanetsi?
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Not to mention the North American Indians, that are also thought to by Turkish by many Turks...
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HAH Azerbaijan's true state and intentions are being revealed. Although BBC mentions it Amnesty doesn't say anything about mistreatment of Armenian refugees (in the first article). Here it is, from Amnesty International: http://news.amnesty.org/index/ENGEUR550122007 There's a link to a pretty big article in it: http://web.amnesty.org/library/index/ENGEUR550102007
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Now it is the Europeans' turn to see what Turkish pollution smells like. Let them continue their migration.
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I heard that it didn't happen yet. If it did, sad that Aram Gatoghigos isn't standing against it. EDIT: Actually it did Cabinet faces crucifixion for canceling Good Friday [i like the title hehe - Dave] BEIRUT: The Cabinet's decision to no longer acknowledge Good Friday as an official national holiday triggered an outcry from a number of prominent Lebanese Christians over the weekend. Good Friday is "a central day in Christian culture," Jbeil Maronite Archbishop Bishara Raii said during an interview with the Lebanese Broadcasting Corporation (LBC) Saturday. "Canceling it as a holiday is a violation of Christian norms. "The government should have consulted with various Christian religious figures before issuing any decisions. Christians would never allow such a key day to be simply left off calendars," Raii said. Tourism Minister Joe Sarkis had defended the move, saying that the government had intended to make Lebanon's holidays "the same as those of other Arab countries." In response, Raii said the holidays celebrated in Lebanon should not be compared with other Arab countries, because it is "known that Lebanon has particular demographic and religious characteristics that ought to be preserved." The Cabinet had voted in December to alter the official schedule of holidays, but the decision was only published in the Official Gazette last week. The Cabinet had also approved other changes to the official holiday schedule - making the Monday after Easter a holiday and removing one day from the two-day Muslim holiday of Eid al-Adha. In a bid to clarify the stance of Christian ministers concerning the matter, Culture Minister Tarek Mitri called Maronite Patriarch Nasrallah Butros Sfeir to brief him on the decision, telling the prelate that the move "in no way stems from political or sectarian considerations." Local daily An-Nahar quoted Mitri in an article published Sunday as saying that he had informed Sfeir of the government's willingness to "modify its decree to abide by any decision the Christian clerics make." Lebanese Forces leader Samir Geagea expressed concern that Christian ministers did not show "much vigilance" regarding the issue of the distribution of holidays, given "all the meanings associated with Good Friday." The opposition "is manipulating Good Friday," Geagea said on LBC Sunday morning. "They want to give the decision political dimensions." Geagea also rejected media reports that blamed Premier Fouad Siniora for the move, saying: "Siniora did not cancel the holiday ... No one person can. " The government is trying to promote the economy by decreasing the number of holidays for both Muslims and Christians," Geagea said. Former MP Suleiman Franjieh's Marada Movement condemned Sunday the Cabinet's actions as "yet another step undertaken by the Siniora government to marginalize Christians even more," and called on the government to apologize for their "sin." - The Daily Star http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?ed...rticle_id=83313
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PM at odds with bureaucrats over foreign policy Updated Mon. Jun. 25 2007 11:23 AM ET CTV.ca News Staff During a closed-door roundtable with Toronto media, Prime Minister Stephen Harper said his hard line on foreign policy is being undermined by Canadian bureaucrats and diplomats. The Toronto Star obtained a recording of the prime minister made at a June 15 roundtable with ethnic-Toronto media. Harper complained at length about the reluctance of public servants to defend his stance on foreign policy, the newspaper reported. Specifically, Harper's comments came in response to questions about his 2006 decision to recognize the deaths of about 1.5 million Armenians in Turkey in 1915 as genocide. "What is not acceptable, and it does happen on occasion, is for a public servant to say, `That may be the position of the elected guys, but that's not the position of the government,'" Harper said in the meeting. The head of the union representing Canada's foreign service said he was "shocked" about the prime minister's comments and that Harper had not made any formal complaints in the past. The move was touted as a significant departure from previous governments and so angered the Turkish government that it recalled its ambassador to Canada and pulled out of a May 2006 joint military exercise. Turkey has long upheld a position of denial, saying the mass killings were not a systemic genocide, but part of broader ethnic clashes as Armenians sided with Russia during the First World War. Turkey's Foreign Ministry issued a stern statement in April 2006 stating it "regretted" Harper's remarks over the killings that occurred more than eight decades ago. "Statements concerning disputed historic events by foreign parliaments or governments nearly a century later will not change the nature of what happened in reality," the statement said. "Such statements do not contribute to the environment of dialogue between Turkey and Armenia, and have a negative effect on Turkish-Canadian relations," it added. "The stagnation of relations between the two countries after the Canadian Parliament's decision ... is the clearest example of this." In 2004, the House of Commons voted 153 to 68 to adopt the Bloc Québécois motion which stated, "This House acknowledges the Armenian genocide of 1915 and condemns this act as a crime against humanity." During the June 15 roundtable, Harper compared his struggle with public servants and garnering support for foreign policy to the difficulty of captaining a massive ship making a tight turn. Harper said shifting Canada's foreign policy takes great force and requires ample amounts of time. "Canada's recognition of the Armenian genocide, frankly, was a major change in policy for the foreign service of Canada, not an easy one to understand," he confided. "It has been difficult for some people." Harper said it's difficult for public servants to become accustomed to a new government's policies when it has defended the previous government's stance for years. "That's difficult for them because they tend to believe in what they've been doing," he said. "All I can say is this: The way we overcome this is to provide very strong direction." http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/stor...0625?hub=Canada These public servants should be reminded of the fact that the Armenian genocide has been recognized in 2004 by Paul Martin's Liberal government, not in 2006 with Harper. Harper is reaffirming this, and is making it government policy. I'm sure they know it though... I guess Turkish pressure is having its effects.
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You aren't... Armenians consider Ararat as a holy mountain, and that's not only because we're Christians. Well, we can't just Americanize the whole Middle-East... It wouldn't work. Perhaps it'd be fine for North America, since it's a relatively new place (inhabited in an organized fashion for 400 years only) as opposed to the Middle-East which has more than 10,000 years of history! Everybody there has an affectional relationship with their little plot of land, their little city or province, while Tennessee doesn't really mean anything to the average American living there; it's all of America that counts. EDIT: Lebanon used to be like that (tolerant and good and wtv) until the Zionists intervened. Ah yes, Sassun, that was what I was talking about. I also saw the same girl on TV, but the TV mostly showed how the girl is scared tucked in her basement, while the people of South Lebanon didn't even have a basement to speak of, anymore...
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I came through an article today which says exactly the opposite (it's the opinion of Armenian ex-officials).
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We have to counter them of course. Find. Counter. Destroy. But sometimes it feels like it's useless to talk to these blind nationalists; they're gonna continue to beleive in the thing they've always beleived - that the "dirty" Armenians massacred the "peaceful and tolerant" Turks - not the other way around. I've always met them online though.
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Actually, before the intervention of foreigners in Middle-Eastern affairs (that includes the Zionists), the various nations lived along quite well. When did Sunnis revolt against a Shiite-dominated empire? Never. When did Christians revolt against an Islamic empire? Never, until European values and ideas such as nationalism were propagated to the Middle-East. Ok Sip, let's hear your solution for the Middle-East. I've seen a picture of a Jewish girl signing an Israeli rocket which was to be fired to southern Lebanon. On it there were the childrens' signatures, various colorful fluffy drawings and messages such as "from Israel with love". Hah, they think it was a good thing. It's despicable...
