War In The Middle East

[Anonymouse]

The Americans are idiots and just how extensive Jewish power has permeated into Washngton is evident in America's cowering support of Israel. However, the tables are turning and as with all history and time, actions, particularly by governments, always result in unintended consequences.

 

Published on Friday, July 28, 2006 by the New York Times

Tide of Arab Opinion Turns to Support for Hezbollah

by Neil MacFarquhar

 

 

DAMASCUS, Syria — At the onset of the Lebanese crisis, Arab governments, starting with Saudi Arabia, slammed Hezbollah for recklessly provoking a war, providing what the United States and Israel took as a wink and a nod to continue the fight.

 

Now, with hundreds of Lebanese dead and Hezbollah holding out against the vaunted Israeli military for more than two weeks, the tide of public opinion across the Arab world is surging behind the organization, transforming the Shiite group’s leader, Sheik Hassan Nasrallah, into a folk hero and forcing a change in official statements.

 

The Saudi royal family and King Abdullah II of Jordan, who were initially more worried about the rising power of Shiite Iran, Hezbollah’s main sponsor, are scrambling to distance themselves from Washington.

 

An outpouring of newspaper columns, cartoons, blogs and public poetry readings have showered praise on Hezbollah while attacking the United States and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice for trumpeting American plans for a “new Middle East” that they say has led only to violence and repression.

 

Even Al Qaeda, run by violent Sunni Muslim extremists normally hostile to all Shiites, has gotten into the act, with its deputy leader, Ayman al-Zawahri, releasing a taped message saying that through its fighting in Iraq, his organization was also trying to liberate Palestine.

 

Mouin Rabbani, a senior Middle East analyst in Amman, Jordan, with the International Crisis Group, said, “The Arab-Israeli conflict remains the most potent issue in this part of the world.”

 

Distinctive changes in tone are audible throughout the Sunni world. This week, President Hosni Mubarak of Egypt emphasized his attempts to arrange a cease-fire to protect all sects in Lebanon, while the Jordanian king announced that his country was dispatching medical teams “for the victims of Israeli aggression.” Both countries have peace treaties with Israel.

 

The Saudi royal court has issued a dire warning that its 2002 peace plan — offering Israel full recognition by all Arab states in exchange for returning to the borders that predated the 1967 Arab-Israeli war — could well perish.

 

“If the peace option is rejected due to the Israeli arrogance,” it said, “then only the war option remains, and no one knows the repercussions befalling the region, including wars and conflict that will spare no one, including those whose military power is now tempting them to play with fire.”

 

The Saudis were putting the West on notice that they would not exert pressure on anyone in the Arab world until Washington did something to halt the destruction of Lebanon, Saudi commentators said.

 

American officials say that while the Arab leaders need to take a harder line publicly for domestic political reasons, what matters more is what they tell the United States in private, which the Americans still see as a wink and a nod.

 

There are evident concerns among Arab governments that a victory for Hezbollah — and it has already achieved something of a victory by holding out this long — would further nourish the Islamist tide engulfing the region and challenge their authority. Hence their first priority is to cool simmering public opinion.

 

But perhaps not since President Gamal Abdel Nasser of Egypt made his emotional outpourings about Arab unity in the 1960’s, before the Arab defeat in the 1967 war, has the public been so electrified by a confrontation with Israel, played out repeatedly on satellite television stations with horrific images from Lebanon of wounded children and distraught women fleeing their homes.

 

Egypt’s opposition press has had a field day comparing Sheik Nasrallah to Nasser, while demonstrators waved pictures of both.

 

An editorial in the weekly Al Dustur by Ibrahim Issa, who faces a lengthy jail sentence for his previous criticism of President Mubarak, compared current Arab leaders to the medieval princes who let the Crusaders chip away at Muslim lands until they controlled them all.

 

After attending an intellectual rally in Cairo for Lebanon, the Egyptian poet Ahmed Fouad Negm wrote a column describing how he had watched a companion buy 20 posters of Sheik Nasrallah.

 

“People are praying for him as they walk in the street, because we were made to feel oppressed, weak and handicapped,” Mr. Negm said in an interview. “I asked the man who sweeps the street under my building what he thought, and he said: ‘Uncle Ahmed, he has awakened the dead man inside me! May God make him triumphant!’ ”

 

In Lebanon, Rasha Salti, a freelance writer, summarized the sense that Sheik Nasrallah differed from other Arab leaders.

 

“Since the war broke out, Hassan Nasrallah has displayed a persona, and public behavior also, to the exact opposite of Arab heads of states,” she wrote in an e-mail message posted on many blogs.

 

In comparison, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice’s brief visit to the region sparked widespread criticism of her cold demeanor and her choice of words, particularly a statement that the bloodshed represented the birth pangs of a “new Middle East.” That catchphrase was much used by Shimon Peres, the veteran Israeli leader who was a principal negotiator of the 1993 Oslo Accords, which ultimately failed to lead to the Palestinian state they envisaged.

 

A cartoon by Emad Hajjaj in Jordan labeled “The New Middle East” showed an Israeli tank sitting on a broken apartment house in the shape of the Arab world.

 

Fawaz al-Trabalsi, a columnist in the Lebanese daily As Safir, suggested that the real new thing in the Middle East was the ability of one group to challenge Israeli militarily.

 

Perhaps nothing underscored Hezbollah’s rising stock more than the sudden appearance of a tape from the Qaeda leadership attempting to grab some of the limelight.

 

Al Jazeera satellite television broadcast a tape from Mr. Zawahri (za-WAH-ri). Large panels behind him showed a picture of the exploding World Trade Center as well as portraits of two Egyptian Qaeda members, Muhammad Atef, a Qaeda commander who was killed by an American airstrike in Afghanistan, and Mohamed Atta, the lead hijacker on Sept. 11, 2001. He described the two as fighters for the Palestinians.

 

Mr. Zawahri tried to argue that the fight against American forces in Iraq paralleled what Hezbollah was doing, though he did not mention the organization by name.

 

“It is an advantage that Iraq is near Palestine,” he said. “Muslims should support its holy warriors until an Islamic emirate dedicated to jihad is established there, which could then transfer the jihad to the borders of Palestine.”

 

Mr. Zawahri also adopted some of the language of Hezbollah and Shiite Muslims in general. That was rather ironic, since previously in Iraq, Al Qaeda has labeled Shiites Muslim as infidels and claimed responsibility for some of the bloodier assaults on Shiite neighborhoods there.

 

But by taking on Israel, Hezbollah had instantly eclipsed Al Qaeda, analysts said. “Everyone will be asking, ‘Where is Al Qaeda now?’ ” said Adel al-Toraifi, a Saudi columnist and expert on Sunni extremists.

 

Mr. Rabbani of the International Crisis Group said Hezbollah’s ability to withstand the Israeli assault and to continue to lob missiles well into Israel exposed the weaknesses of Arab governments with far greater resources than Hezbollah.

 

“Public opinion says that if they are getting more on the battlefield than you are at the negotiating table, and you have so many more means at your disposal, then what the hell are you doing?” Mr. Rabbani said. “In comparison with the small embattled guerrilla movement, the Arab states seem to be standing idly by twiddling their thumbs.”

 

Mona el-Naggar contributed reporting from Cairo for this article, and Suha Maayeh from Amman, Jordan.

 

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0728-01.htm

Edited July 29, 2006 by Anonymouse

[hayemyes]

Kajdi dumayet po mere svoey isporchennosti

 

Vat mi zga lav.

 

 

everyone criticizes the arabicized armenians, what about the russian-ized armenians from armenia?

no one take it personnaly

[Arpa]

I just received an urgent appeal for donations to Lebanon Relief, where we read about the plight of the Armenian community . Even if the Armenian enclaves in Beirut and other cities have not been directly hit, many Armenians do live outside those enclaves like South Beirut et al. The entire infrastructure of Beirut and Lebanon has been destroyed, many refugees from the south have moved to Beirut, many Armenian institutions and buildings such as schools and churches arebeing used to shelter them, there is urgent need for shelter, food, medicine, clothes and blankets.

We are talking about Christian Armenians while these so called “christian”, faggots, the likes of that bozo Jerry F**kwell, and their "porn-again" (no, it is not a typo, I mean porn) disciples are having the times of their lives celebrating the realization of “Armaf**kdon”.

He should merge his TV show with that other clown, Jerry(Springer).

Armageddon on their dickheads!

If they only knew what true Christianity is, and that Jesus came to start a new era free of all that “fire and brimstone” mythology of the OT.

They all need is radical circumcision so they fit better in that "religio-ethnic" society.

Of course, we know that Israel is od’s embassy on earth, they are only acting to realize “Thy will be done”.

Fire and brimstone on their seven generations!

This is our chance to show our sympathy and solidarity with the Lebanese, be they Christian, Sunni, Shiite, Durzi... et al, and by association with their kin in the region. We have finally, afer many years of hanging our hopes on those others and their bully buddies(Turks) in the region. The Lebanese and their kin will remember us unlike those other SOBs.

Many more similar sites , just use “falwell armageddon” as keywords and see.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article....RTICLE_ID=51180

One chief reason America is in the crosshairs is its relationship with Israel. Dick Morris stated on the Fox News Channel this week that American evangelicals (or "the old Moral Majority," as he called us) are a better friend to Israel than many American Jews.

As an evangelical pastor, I'm proud of this legacy. The Bible compels Christians to "pray for the peace of Israel," and millions of Christians do this every day. We must never abandon our friend Israel, even though much of the world despises this nation and wants to obliterate it from the earth.

A history of turmoil

The problems in the Middle East are of ancient origin. We must look back into the Old Testament to the birth of Ishmael, son of Abraham through Hagar, his maidservant (Genesis 16:15) to understand the deep-seated roots of this crisis. Later, Abraham's wife, Sarah, in her old age, bore Abraham another son, Isaac, according to God's prophetic Word.

History has shown that Ishmael became the father of the Arabic people, while Isaac became the father of the Jewish people. Thus, the enmity that began between these two boys continues today.

As such, Jerusalem has been a frequent target throughout history. It was completely destroyed by the Roman general Titus in A.D. 70. Since that time, the fig tree of Israel stood alone, without fruit and almost without hope, until a miracle happened. Quite likely, the most important date of the past 20 centuries, since the resurrection of Christ, is May 14, 1948, when Israel officially became a nation again.

It is apparent, in light of the rebirth of the state of Israel, that the present-day events in the Holy Land may very well serve as a prelude or forerunner to the future Battle of Armageddon and the glorious return of Jesus Christ.

The Christians and the Jews

Frequently, those of us who are pro-Israel have been falsely accused of being anti-Arab. Let me state as strongly as possible that the God of the Bible is pro-people!

The wonderful Old Testament story of Ruth is a great example of this. She was from ancient Moab, which is now modern Jordan. By the marvelous grace of God, Ruth would become the wife of Boaz, and the great-grandmother of King David himself.

What about Jonah? He is often thought of as history's first missionary. And where did God send him? To Nineveh, capital of the Assyrian Empire, which today includes a number of Arab nations.

There are three key reasons why Christians must support Israel:

For humanitarian reasons.

For political reasons. The state of Israel has the only true democratic system of government in the entire Middle East and has been America's most faithful supporter in the region.

For religious reasons. The founding of Israel as a nation in 1948 was ordained of God to provide a homeland for the Jewish people and to prepare for the future return of Jesus Christ. The Abrahamic Covenant demands it.

The role of Christians

So, what should Christians be doing during this time of global unrest?

First, we should continue to pray for Israel as Psalms 122:6 instructs. ("Pray for the peace of Jerusalem: they shall prosper that love thee.")

Second, we should purify our lives.

And third, we should proclaim the Gospel of Jesus Christ and prepare hearts for His imminent return. "Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh." (Matthew 25:13)

With the world on the brink of pandemonium, it is our responsibility to point people – no matter their heritage, ethnicity or religion – to the one and only solution, Jesus Christ. May we work while it is yet day, for the night approaches when no man can work. (John 9:4)

Edited July 29, 2006 by Arpa

[phantom22]

I am among Armenians who were raised as mainline Protestants.

 

We were raised to believe in the goodness of Jesus Christ. There was no "hell-fire and brimstone" in the sermons of our ministers.

 

Among these idiots you speak of are Armenians such as the late Rousas Rushdoony, Benny Hinn and David Kupelian.

 

Arpa, why are you foaming at the mouth relating these jackasses with homosexuals. These guys would all like to see "faggots" burned at the stake. Do you not know the source of the word "faggot?"

 

If it was not for the DIRTY politics of these "so-called Christian" activists, John McCain would be president today. The US would be run with logic and not a born-again religious fervor were he the President today.

 

In 2008, it will probably be a race betwen Hillary and McCain. I wonder in what direction US policies wil turn under each of those administrations.

 

 

I just received an urgent appeal for donations to Lebanon Relief, where we read about the plight of the Armenian community . Even if the Armenian enclaves in Beirut and other cities have not been directly hit, many Armenians do live outside those enclaves like South Beirut et al. The entire infrastructure of Beirut and Lebanon has been destroyed, many refugees from the south have moved to Beirut, many Armenian institutions and buildings such as schools and churches arebeing used to shelter them, there is urgent need for shelter, food, medicine, clothes and blankets.

We are talking about Christian Armenians while these so called “christian”, faggots, the likes of that bozo Jerry F**kwell, and their "porn-again" (no, it is not a typo, I mean porn) disciples are having the times of their lives celebrating the realization of “Armaf**kdon”.

Armageddon on their dickheads!

If they only knew what true Christianity is, and that Jesus came to start a new era free of all that “fire and brimstone” mythology of the OT.

They all need is radical circumcision so they fit better in that "religio-ethnic" society.

Of course, we know that Israel is od’s embassy on earth, they are only acting to realize “Thy will be done”.

Fire and brimstone on their seven generations!

This is our chance to show our sympathy and solidarity with the Lebanese, be they Christian, Sunni, Shiite, Durzi... et al, and by association with their kin in the region. We have finally, afer many years of hanging our hopes on those others and their bully buddies(Turks) in the region. The Lebanese and their kin will remember us unlike those other SOBs.

Many more similar sites , just use “falwell armageddon” as keywords and see.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article....RTICLE_ID=51180

One chief reason America is in the crosshairs is its relationship with Israel. Dick Morris stated on the Fox News Channel this week that American evangelicals (or "the old Moral Majority," as he called us) are a better friend to Israel than many American Jews.

As an evangelical pastor, I'm proud of this legacy. The Bible compels Christians to "pray for the peace of Israel," and millions of Christians do this every day. We must never abandon our friend Israel, even though much of the world despises this nation and wants to obliterate it from the earth.

A history of turmoil

The problems in the Middle East are of ancient origin. We must look back into the Old Testament to the birth of Ishmael, son of Abraham through Hagar, his maidservant (Genesis 16:15) to understand the deep-seated roots of this crisis. Later, Abraham's wife, Sarah, in her old age, bore Abraham another son, Isaac, according to God's prophetic Word.

History has shown that Ishmael became the father of the Arabic people, while Isaac became the father of the Jewish people. Thus, the enmity that began between these two boys continues today.

As such, Jerusalem has been a frequent target throughout history. It was completely destroyed by the Roman general Titus in A.D. 70. Since that time, the fig tree of Israel stood alone, without fruit and almost without hope, until a miracle happened. Quite likely, the most important date of the past 20 centuries, since the resurrection of Christ, is May 14, 1948, when Israel officially became a nation again.

It is apparent, in light of the rebirth of the state of Israel, that the present-day events in the Holy Land may very well serve as a prelude or forerunner to the future Battle of Armageddon and the glorious return of Jesus Christ.

The Christians and the Jews

Frequently, those of us who are pro-Israel have been falsely accused of being anti-Arab. Let me state as strongly as possible that the God of the Bible is pro-people!

The wonderful Old Testament story of Ruth is a great example of this. She was from ancient Moab, which is now modern Jordan. By the marvelous grace of God, Ruth would become the wife of Boaz, and the great-grandmother of King David himself.

What about Jonah? He is often thought of as history's first missionary. And where did God send him? To Nineveh, capital of the Assyrian Empire, which today includes a number of Arab nations.

There are three key reasons why Christians must support Israel:

For humanitarian reasons.

For political reasons. The state of Israel has the only true democratic system of government in the entire Middle East and has been America's most faithful supporter in the region.

For religious reasons. The founding of Israel as a nation in 1948 was ordained of God to provide a homeland for the Jewish people and to prepare for the future return of Jesus Christ. The Abrahamic Covenant demands it.

The role of Christians

So, what should Christians be doing during this time of global unrest?

First, we should continue to pray for Israel as Psalms 122:6 instructs. ("Pray for the peace of Jerusalem: they shall prosper that love thee.")

Second, we should purify our lives.

And third, we should proclaim the Gospel of Jesus Christ and prepare hearts for His imminent return. "Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh." (Matthew 25:13)

With the world on the brink of pandemonium, it is our responsibility to point people – no matter their heritage, ethnicity or religion – to the one and only solution, Jesus Christ. May we work while it is yet day, for the night approaches when no man can work. (John 9:4)

[Arpa]

I am among Armenians who were raised as mainline Protestants.

Arpa, why are you foaming at the mouth relating these jackasses with homosexuals. These guys would all like to see "faggots" burned at the stake. Do you not know the source of the word "faggot?"

With all due respects, I used that word not so much to describe a certain sector of our society, in fact I hate that word as many of my friends do profess to love members of thier own gender. Just as I don't use the "N" word since many of my dear friends have darker skin than mine. Nothing wrong with that. I love(agape v eros)** my male brother(s) too. The reason I used that word is that it rhymes with those"maggots".

**Whether you know it or not Armenians use that word as personal female name in the form of Agapi/Akabi.

http://armenian.name/index.php?a=term&d=2&t=15

AGAPI

From Hebrew agape "love" or agapen "darling". It corresponds to Arm name Siranudh (Russian Lyubov). It came through Greek and was in use till XIX c. Now it is out of use.

Out of use?

I have known several people with that name.

Hebrew?

Who writes these monographs?

Are they the same people who ascribe every word/name to Turkish?

Edited July 29, 2006 by Arpa

[Arpa]

Now do you understand why Israel has been reluctant to acknowledge the Armenian Genocide and condemn its perpetrators.

Is there any other word to describe what is happening in Lebanon but “genocide“?

[Verginne]

Now do you understand why Israel has been reluctant to acknowledge the Armenian Genocide and condemn its perpetrators.

Is there any other word to describe what is happening in Lebanon but “genocide“?

 

 

NO, never had a problem understanding that they were co-perpetrators and instigators of the AG.

 

In Lebanon, they are just showing the world again what they are and it's nothing new.

[Arpa]

Who dare guess how long before Ms. Rice either resigns or is somehow relieved of her position as SS?

Did anyone see her at that press conference where she was so emotional that her voice fluttered and she was on the verge of crying.

[Sassun]

To whoever it was who asked me - yes the refugees have reached Bourj Hammoud. They have been given shelter in Camp Trad and other areas.

 

Today - a massacre in Qana, more than 55 civilians killed in one strike on a 3-story building where women, children, and elderly people had taken shelter in the ground floor. 37 of the 55 killed were children.

[hovan]

moslems and jews are no friends of armenian christians. so let them kill each other and do us a favor. we will have less to kill ourselves.

[Sassun]

But the Lebanese Christians are? Remember, it wasn't the Muslim Palestinians who attacked "Armenian Christians" (don't put me in that box of yours, please!), nor the Lebanese Muslims who attacked them, but your beloved zealous Christians!

[hovan]

when the call to kill jews is finished and all the jews are dead what will you do. the khoran says to kill all jews and christians .so they will be next. all i am saying is watch who you sleep with, for you might not like what you see when you awaken.....all of this has been written since the beginning of time we have no controll over it, we can only prepare ourselves and hope for the best. a new world is about to be born either we will be part of it or we will be dead. the world is not governed right now by politics or religion rather by the group of mega corporations who dictate to the politicos and religious zeloits who lives and who dies.

[Arpa]

But the Lebanese Christians are? Remember, it wasn't the Muslim Palestinians who attacked "Armenian Christians" (don't put me in that box of yours, please!), nor the Lebanese Muslims who attacked them, but your beloved zealous Christians!

Yes Sassun, do tell us. Are the Katayeb/Phalangists still ”alive”?

I know exactly what you are referring to. Were it not for the Muslims of Beirut the Armenian quarters would have been burned to ashes.

[hovan]

you of the ARYAN race why do you cry for the dirty semite. the jews and arabs are half brothers. dirty, smelly, stupid people.

[Z'areh]

you of the ARYAN race why do you cry for the dirty semite. the jews and arabs are half brothers. dirty, smelly, stupid people.

 

 

Hovan, please take your Aryan BS and sit on it.

 

If you know something about anything then you'll know that Muslims and Armenians are natural allies, we are not talking about Al-Qaida or Afghan Talibans, whose Islamic credentials are as solid as Bush's Christianity, we are talking about Middle Eastern politics. Armenians owe a lot of gratitude towards the Muslim Arabs for not sparing any efforts to helping Armenians. Thanks to them Armenians regained dignity and self-confidence after the horrendous experiences of dehumanization the Genocide caused.

 

Neither is your views of blanket racism against all Jews is welcomed here.

[hovan]

so you say the muslem turk, azerbajani, kurd are our natural allie? whhhew, i feel soooo much better. now i can sleep at night.thanks

[Arpa]

so you say the muslem turk, azerbajani, kurd are our natural allie? whhhew, i feel soooo much better. now i can sleep at night.thanks

Of course, you left out the muslimest of all Muslims, our only friend in the region, the only lifeline of Armenia, Iran. One wishes one could say the same about our “christian” neighbor to the north, Georgia.

Please read Zareh's post above again.

Aryan? Are you a KKK or nazi skinhead?

[Verginne]

so you say the muslem turk, azerbajani, kurd are our natural allie? whhhew, i feel soooo much better. now i can sleep at night.thanks

 

turks and azerbaboons, NEVER.

 

But you have to be able to distinguish between muslims. Actually, the garbage known as turks and azerbaboons have these "model" secular states.

 

However, in Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Iran, Egypt and Palestinian jew-free land, Armenians found refuge and have lived in peace.

 

Don't be grouping jews with Arab semites, as ninety-five percent of jews are NOT semites. They are mongol khazars and cousins of turks. BTW, Lebanese are Phoenicians.

Edited July 30, 2006 by Verginne

[hovan]

I LOVE IT!!!! its easy to stir up the poop on this site! when i first signed on i politley asked for differeent view points on whats going on.i was basically told to shut up and go away. NOW, that i say things that get under your skin, whether i believe them or not i get a gush of view points..all be it very enthusiastic....like i said...I LOVE IT..I HAVE LEARNED MORE ABOUT WHATS GOING ON AND DIFFERENT TAKES ON IT...i'll be here to aggrivate all of you..i am your thawn in the side..but you are armenians and i love you all! NO MATTER HOW WRONG YOU ARE....HA HA HA HA ......

 

----

And I'll be watching EVERY step of the way and YANK your posts if you are only here to "aggrivate" before you can blink your eye. If you would like to be a "thawn in the side", just consider this as a friendly reminder that there are those watching here that will be a thawn in YOUR side --Sip

Edited July 30, 2006 by Sip

[hovan]

VERGINNE,

thanks for the heads up on that other sight...interesting

[kakachik77]

I think hovan's statement meant as a sarcasm to stir away your one-way approach to this whole issue. Once again, this view point DOES NOT represent Armenians as a whole, but mostly people who have settled in Syria, Lebanon, other Arab countries surrounding after the genocide, hence you have developed a deep empathy towards everything Arabic, its normal and natural but it definately does not represent the view point of Armenians around the world. Do you think 800,000 Armenians in Moscow really care about Lebanon, but I bet they would act this way if there was an offensive against Russia.

[Verginne]

I think hovan's statement meant as a sarcasm to stir away your one-way approach to this whole issue. Once again, this view point DOES NOT represent Armenians as a whole, but mostly people who have settled in Syria, Lebanon, other Arab countries surrounding after the genocide, hence you have developed a deep empathy towards everything Arabic, its normal and natural but it definately does not represent the view point of Armenians around the world. Do you think 800,000 Armenians in Moscow really care about Lebanon, but I bet they would act this way if there was an offensive against Russia.

 

 

 

You can't compare apples and oranges and those who would launch an offensive against Russia would not have anything to do with these people. It might make you feel better to think Armenians are siding against israel due to connections with Arabic countries, but that is untrue. I think most Armenians are anti-israel because israel is anti-Armenian and only a zombie would think otherwise. It also helps that the Lebanese have right on their side. Armenians in Russia are also supporting Lebanon as are the vast majority of Russians.

 

The whole world is against israel...except for a few clueless amoral Usian zombies and their equally clueless allies like the leader of Canada and England.

[skhara]

I think hovan's statement meant as a sarcasm to stir away your one-way approach to this whole issue. Once again, this view point DOES NOT represent Armenians as a whole, but mostly people who have settled in Syria, Lebanon, other Arab countries surrounding after the genocide, hence you have developed a deep empathy towards everything Arabic, its normal and natural but it definately does not represent the view point of Armenians around the world.

 

I don't have anything to do or ever had anything to do with Arabs. I do think that Israel's action amounts to nothing more than sadism. Not 'self-defence', not 'fighting terrorists', but sadism. Imagine what those same sadists would do if no one was watching.

 

 

Do you think 800,000 Armenians in Moscow really care about Lebanon, but I bet they would act this way if there was an offensive against Russia.

 

I think most find Israel's action criminal.

Edited July 30, 2006 by skhara

[kakachik77]

this is not about taking sides or making moral judgments...more about the degree of passion and zeal than Armenians AS A WHOLE put into this conflict... I think that's all hovan was trying to say.

[hovan]

keep it going guyss.this is good debating. we all can open our minds to these different opinions and view points and LEARN!!!!!! to get one solid true point of view we must listen to each other....dont make your opinions from the t.v.news or what your government tells you, listen to your brothers and sisters and suddenly everything all at once will become clear.we might not like what we hear but you will know the truth when you hear it.