War In The Middle East

[dianjan]

dianjan,

go to google and watch the movie obsession. it google video. that will wake you up. it will scare you to death. made by muslems about extremest muslems and what they are all about.

This is another video showing Jihad and young people ready to die for nothing... It's in Russian, so I'm not sure if some people on this forum understand Russian. If you do, watch the video.

http://7kanal.com/data/movies/elonel-.wmv

[Arpa]

yes arpa i know..your perfect..you are the perfect armenian..all praise arpa the great!!!!

 

Hovan, get a life!

Go to Yerevan and walk up/down Mashtots avenue.

My son ,who by the way may not speak Armenian as fluently as I, who by the same token, may know more about Armenin culture than both you and I put together, who, during our recent sojourn in Yerevan, when I would get weary and tired, he would insist to walk a little more so he could absorb more of the culture…..

Until and unless you can write about such an experience, you are out of order.

Yet! Once again. When this thread is about Jew-kaks and Arab-kaks, the old saying goes: “The pig’s (tough) skin and the dog’s (sharp) fangs” why are we talking about these issues??!!

[dianjan]

If you read my post carefully you will see that I'm not camparing them. At the beginning I told you I don't understand also but I'm not going to judge them because I'm not in their shoes, neither should you.

For a mother their children is their most presious thing and its not easy to sacrifice them.

I'm sorry, but I can't keep myself from judging these muslim mothers. It's just wrong.

[dianjan]

dianjan,

go to google and watch the movie obsession. it google video. that will wake you up. it will scare you to death. made by muslems about extremest muslems and what they are all about.

Wow....watching this video, and my views against Islam is getting stronger and stronger. The scary part is that it's over a billion of them.

[Verginne]

exactly!!! I don't trust them, I'm worried that there'll be a WWIII, and then us and Jews I'm sure will be on the same side fighting one common enemy.

 

 

Who is "us" and the jews??

 

You mean americans and jews

 

or do you mean Armenians and jews?

 

 

Armenians and jews will never be on the same side. But you should greatly fear as an american being on the same side as jews. It is disgraceful, because they are war criminals who have committed all kinds of war crimes and think that international laws and treaties do not apply to them because they a special and "chosen" and can do anything they want to anyone.

 

Start thinking with your head instead of your ...........

 

Talk to Armenians, especially older ones..your parents or grandparents preferably.

[Verginne]

Before you start yapping about suicide bombers and spreading around jewish propaganda, you might think about the absolute utter desperation and powerlessness these people feel.

 

What terrible and horrible conditions they live under. They get only fifteen percent of the water, barely enough to survive, while jews get all the rest and are filling up their swimming pools while Arabs suffer.

[Sip]

Why is it that all the jew bashing is mainly coming from Araba-hyes?

[dianjan]

Why is it that all the jew bashing is mainly coming from Araba-hyes?

You learn from the one you live with...

[vava]

You still have not addressed the fact that israel/jews are the ones helping turks and azeris. You still think you should support them?

 

Why? It makes no sense at all. Why do you support the enemy? Why do you support anti-Armenian jews?

 

Note that not ALL jewish people are "anti-Armenian". The Isrealis government has some policies that negatively affect Armenia - that's an important distiction to make before you go on frothing at the mouth.

 

Iran stood out there and said that it wants to eliminate Israel from the face of the earth. In this day in age, that kind of speech is unacceptable towards any country. They are all animals, and they're raised with hatred toward us all.

 

Wrong again - categorically describing the people of a nation in any matter is incorrect and IMO racist. Obviously not ALL Iranians (or muslims for that matter) are "hate-filled animals". I suggest you re-examine your attitude towards members of the human race in general.

 

 

ALL MOSLEMS AND JEWS MUST DIE

 

Another comment like this and the thread wil be closed.

Watch-it everyone - already this topic is filled with much hate mongering and insults. Warnings will be in order if you don't all cool off.

[kakachik77]

You learn from the one you live with...

 

this is only with araba-hyes though, parska-hyes don't think this way about the people of their "host" country, I have yet to see an Iranian Armenian put down Iraq so much because Iran was in war with them.

[Eurocentric]

Cough, I'm Hayastantsee and i'm prepared to bash Jews and Arabs together. A true anti-Semite!

[ExtraHye]

Why is it that all the jew bashing is mainly coming from Araba-hyes?

That is so not true, I know a lot of parska-hyes whos mission in life is to bash jews. Sad

[Z'areh]

It is quite a sad reality that some of you cannot distinguish between propaganda and reality.

 

I watched the video and it is clear that the target intended are those who do not know what has happened or still happening in the occupied territories.

 

It is said that propaganda is for those who are ignorant, and unfortunately the majority of "outside watchers" are ignorant.

 

This "Russian" video is exploiting the fear of Muslim extremism, of course we see neither Russian extremism in Chechnya nor Israeli extremism in Gaza and West bank.

 

If one stops and counts the bodies of who did the most killings would open one's eyes.

 

What I'm saying in no way justification of terrorist attacks on Israeli busses or civilians. But to swallow such Israeli propaganda hook line and sinker demonstrates a sad state of affairs in today's world.

 

Those young girls who are interviewed by the Israeli journalist (I've seen the entire "project" before) is put out of context, where is the segment of this same journalist interviewing right-wing Jewish settlers who were calling for the deportation of the entire Palestinian population to Jordan, and attacking Palestinian schoolchildren on their way home from school?

 

In fact, the original Arab/Israeli joint production of these interviews clarifies and explains the Arab frustrations of Israeli collective punishments that have gone on for generations, and comes out very sympathetic to the Palestinian cause.

 

Remember, the initial intifada, or uprising of Palestinians a decade or so ago was with stones and sticks, to which Israel responded with more than just braking bones but with tanks and helicopter gunships. As is the ratio of 10 to 1 killed in Lebanon (so far) it is more than 20 Arabs to 1 Israeli killed in the occupied territories and Israel.

 

Again, those young children in the video who are ready to die for Islam, are those who have witnessed their loved ones blown to pieces and their homes destroyed, with no hope for the future I like to see you react differently.

 

As a well know writer to us all keeps saying: "don't let others do the thinking for you"

 

A very good advice.

Edited August 3, 2006 by Z'areh

[Verginne]

I wonder if dianjan is still going to support israel now that they might be killing/bombing Armenians.

 

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Israel attacks Lebanon village near Syria border

 

Updated Fri. Aug. 4 2006 10:00 AM ET

 

CTV.ca News Staff

 

Israel's pounding of Lebanon continued Friday, with an air strike on a village near Lebanon's border with Syria that killed at least 20 people and injured more than 30, Lebanese officials have said.

 

The casualties were being taken to hospitals in Syria, Lebanese security sources told Reuters news agency.

 

Earlier, Israeli missiles targeted bridges in Christian areas north of Beirut for the first time, killing at least four civilians and wounding 10.

 

Other Israeli air raids near Beirut's airport and southern suburbs killed a Lebanese soldier and left six civilians wounded, security officials and witnesses told the Associated Press.

 

Beirut media said Israel launched 24 bombing runs in just an hour.

 

Israeli military officials said they were aiming for holdings of both Hezbollah and Hamas militants.

 

Meanwhile, the destruction of four bridges on the main north-south coastal highway linking Beirut to Syria further sealed Lebanon from the outside world.

 

The Israeli naval blockade and earlier strikes against roadways had already closed off other main access points.

 

Fierce fighting also continued along the border, and Hezbollah said in a statement broadcast by the group's Al-Manar TV station that its fighters had killed six Israeli soldiers near the villages of Aita al-Shaab and Markaba.

 

Rockets pound Israel

 

The clashes came a day after a massive barrage of Hezbollah rockets pounded northern Israel, killing eight people, and an offer by Hezbollah's leader to stop the attacks if Israel ends its air strikes.

 

Hassan Nasrallah also threatened to fire rockets at Tel Aviv if central Beirut was attacked again.

 

"If you strike Beirut, the Islamic Resistance will strike Tel Aviv and it is able to do so," Nasrallah said on Al-Manar TV Thursday.

 

South Beirut has been attacked repeatedly by Israeli warplanes since fighting began more than three weeks ago, but the strikes early Friday hit the affluent Christian locality of Jounieh, north of the capital, for the first time.

 

The bombing of the picturesque coastal resort marked a sharp expansion of Israel's attack on Lebanon, which now threatens Christian areas where Hezbollah is believed to have little support or presence.

 

Meanwhile, in the hills of southern Lebanon, Israeli artillery intensified bombing overnight, sometimes sending as many as 15 shells per minute against suspected Hezbollah strongholds.

 

'At least 900 Lebanese killed'

 

Lebanese Prime Minister Fuad Saniora said Thursday that at least 900 Lebanese, mostly civilians, had been killed and more than one million people -- or about a quarter of Lebanon's population -- had been displaced.

 

Around 68 Israelis have been killed, including 41 soldiers and 27 civilians. More than 300,000 Israelis have fled their homes in the north, Israeli officials said.

 

Despite Hezbollah's truce offer and continuing international diplomatic efforts to broker a cease-fire, Israeli Defence Minister Amir Peretz told top army officers to begin preparing for the next stage of the offensive in south Lebanon -- a push up to Lebanon's Litani River.

 

Such a push would require further approval by Israel's Security Cabinet and could lead to far more casualties.

 

Meanwhile, at the United Nations Thursday, France circulated a revised resolution calling for an immediate end to hostilities and spelling out the conditions for a permanent cease-fire and lasting solution to the crisis.

 

Israel, backed by the United States, has rejected calls for an immediate cease-fire, saying it wants an international force or the Lebanese army to deploy in southern Lebanon to prevent future Hezbollah attacks.

 

The offensive in Lebanon began on July 12 after two Israeli soldiers were captured by Hezbollah fighters.

 

With files from the Associated Press

 

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/stor...?hub=TopStories

[Arpa]

We hear that the “ozraeli”, (the angel of death in the Moslem culture) has struck at the northern Lebanese Syrian border, a stones throw from the Armenian town of Anjar. Hi, our MusaLets/Anjartsi MosJan, not that Anjar has not been heavily hit with the destruction of the main highway to Damascus that goes through its heart. The main industry in Anjar is apples that are days away of maturation. How will they market their produce? To whom? To those benofabitch BenCohen/Gurions? Btw, “ben” means the son of just as in the Arabic “bin/ibn”

First off. Why did the Israelites return to Palestine after an absence of 2000 years?

Was it because the ovens at Dachau had become too hot and made their cushy lives in Berlin and Moscow was threatened?

War!

Conduct a simple search here and see how many entries there are.

http://www.hti.umich.edu/cgi/k/kjv/kjv-idx...;size=First+100

 

Bible, King James Version

1 to 100 matches of 309.

Yes, 309 hits.

And now, “scorched earth”

Let us first read what those cursed xenophobes wrote in these curse verses. “Infant sucklings, ox and sheep, camel and ass”? Did they leave the Anjartsi Armenians’ “eshek” out?

The Middle East was such a “garden of Eden “ before they and their “staunch allies” , read Turks ever set foot in the area.

Here, read what those sonofamoshes have to say about the conduct of war.

 

1Sam.15

[3] Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.

See Websters’ entries;

 

Main Entry: scorched-earth 

Pronunciation: 'skorcht-'&rth

Function: adjective

1 : relating to or being a military policy involving deliberate and usually widespread destruction of property and resources (as housing and factories) so that an invading enemy cannot use them

2 : directed toward victory or supremacy at all costs : RUTHLESS 

 

Main Entry: ter·ror 

Pronunciation: 'ter-&r, 'te-r&r

Function: noun

Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French terrour, from Latin terror, from terrEre to frighten; akin to Greek trein to be afraid, flee, tremein to tremble -- more at TREMBLE

1 : a state of intense fear

2 a : one that inspires fear : SCOURGE b : a frightening aspect c : a cause of anxiety : WORRY d : an appalling person or thing; especially : BRAT

3 : REIGN OF TERROR

4 : violent or destructive acts (as bombing) committed by groups in order to intimidate a population or government into granting their demands

 

Regardless of the Websters’ I still maintain that the word “terror” has to with the Latin “terra” and the French “terre”, earth as in “scorched earth”.

The Armenian word for “scorch” is “khandz/khandzel/խանձ/խանձել”. It is when one touches the hot grid of a barbeque and receives a 2nd- 3rd degree burn.

 

What does it take for these xenophobic Coneheads/Cohenheads to finally realize that they are not welcome in the region?

http://www.tvacres.com/aliens_coneheads.htm

I forgot. They are not coneheads, they are yarmulkaheads.

 

PS. To read more about “terror” search and find my post/thread of “Ahabekum”.

[Verginne]

How jews wage war and their mentality:

 

Yesha Rabbinical Council: During time of war, enemy has no innocents

 

 

The Yesha Rabbinical Council announced in response to an IDF attack in Kfar Qanna that "according to Jewish law, during a time of battle and war, there is no such term as 'innocents' of the enemy."

 

 

All of the discussions on Christian morality are weakening the spirit of the army and the nation and are costing us in the blood of our soldiers and civilians," the statement said. (Efrat Weiss)

 

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,...3283720,00.html

 

 

 

"Go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and a.ss." (1 Sam. 15:3).

[Verginne]

Christian shrine destroyed in southern Lebanon

 

In a separate development, an ancient Christian shrine was destroyed as a result of Wednesday’s Israeli raids on southern Lebanon. According to archimandrite Sergius in the town of Deir Mimas, an Israeli missile flattened the St. Mamant of Caesarea church, one of the oldest in the Middle East built where the Christian martyr died in the 3rd century AD. The temple was fully restored last year.

 

03.08.2006

 

 

http://www.vor.ru/index_eng.phtml?view=east_eng&id=138

[Iran Forever]

So it begins. Military analysts in Israel have been talking for quite a while about the inevidable military confrontation, which could escalate and put the whole region up in flames. They were saying "it will get worst before it gets any better". As I see it, massive use of force of Israel in Gaza which killed many civilians provoked Hizballah to attack Israeli border on the north in bid to divert attention from Gaza. One thing they overlooked, is a simple fact of Israeli military superiority. Israel can handle war on 2 fronts or even more. The problem with Hizballah is that it was given time to prepare for this conflict, since the withdrawal from Lebanon 6 years ago. Israel should have never allowed them to operate freely all this time and now they claim they have 10.000 rockets to hit across the border. So where do we go from here? Airstrikes that cause massive damage and lives of civilians on both sides? In Israel the objective is clear. Hit Hizballah , hit Hizballah hard, force Lebanese government into blaming them for the war noone needs and disarm them. Its hard to predict what will happen, I pray this wont turn into another major conflict, but so far, neither side is prepared to stop shooting.

 

This forum is for Armenia and Armenia's friends like Iran...perhaps you as an Israeli should join an Azerbaijani forum, they are your friends. Lech lecha, anu lo rotseem klaveem kamocha ba forum haze.

[Iran Forever]

This might get me into trouble, but I can't keep my mouth shut any longer....I can't believe that many of you are pro Lebanon....Why??? Hezbollah is to blame for all that's happening. If they wouldn't be sending in suicide bombers into Israel, almost everyday, and then kidnapping their soldiers, this wouldn't have started. Also, how can you be for any nation, that sends their own to tear themselves into shreds, and then calls them heros, so that they can kill couple of Jews/Christians?? If I had to pick between Jews and Muslims, I would pick Jews without a second thought. I hate Muslims for all that they stand. Not only for AG, but for Azeri war, and for their dream of exterminating Jews and Christians. For their crazy beliefs and extrimist ideology. And trust me, God forbid, they will defeat Jews, they WILL come after Christians. How can you support a religion that caused 9/11, bombings in Moscow, Europe, and who could ever forget Beslan?? Israel is doing the only thing that it can... It needs to get rid of Hezbollah...Even though it's not going to rid world of Muslim extrimists, it's at least a start. And unfortunatelly, there are always casualties of war. And one more thing, there would be much less casualties on Lebanese side if Hezbollah wouldn't try to hide amongst regular people. They shoot Katyushas off residential building and shelters. They don't give a crap about their own, all they care is about killing others.

And to all poor Armenians living in Muslim countries, I feel really bad for you. I pray that you are safe. But you chose to stay in a Muslim country, and now you're paying the price. I can't believe that Armenians didn't learn by now, that we're hated by muslims on the same level as Jews. How many families were shattered after the Pogroms in Baku?? Why are there Armenians still living in a muslim country??

I'm just shocked that any of you are pro Lebanon!! All muslims are crazy and need to be dealt with. In USA I met a Turkish girl, who as soon as found out that I'm Armenian, tried to prove to me that AG didn't happen, and that we're making it up. They're all the same, even if some keep it quite, they all hate US!!!

Your friends the Jews help those Azeris whom you hate so much, more than any other nationality...I seriously doubt you are Armenian, but a Russian Jew passing himself off as Armenian.

Edited August 6, 2006 by Iran Forever

[Iran Forever]

I agree with you. But Arabs = Muslim!!

Arabs=Muslim? I doubt it...Syria has two million Christians, Iraq over half a million, Egypt 8 million Coptic Christians, 12 percent of Palestinians are Christian, Lebanon is roughly half Christian, Jordan has a large Christian community, etc. etc. etc.

[hovan]

iran forever,

do you live in iran?

[Iran Forever]

I wonder if dianjan is still going to support israel now that they might be killing/bombing Armenians.

 

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Israel attacks Lebanon village near Syria border

 

Updated Fri. Aug. 4 2006 10:00 AM ET

 

CTV.ca News Staff

 

Israel's pounding of Lebanon continued Friday, with an air strike on a village near Lebanon's border with Syria that killed at least 20 people and injured more than 30, Lebanese officials have said.

 

The casualties were being taken to hospitals in Syria, Lebanese security sources told Reuters news agency.

 

Earlier, Israeli missiles targeted bridges in Christian areas north of Beirut for the first time, killing at least four civilians and wounding 10.

 

Other Israeli air raids near Beirut's airport and southern suburbs killed a Lebanese soldier and left six civilians wounded, security officials and witnesses told the Associated Press.

 

Beirut media said Israel launched 24 bombing runs in just an hour.

 

Israeli military officials said they were aiming for holdings of both Hezbollah and Hamas militants.

 

Meanwhile, the destruction of four bridges on the main north-south coastal highway linking Beirut to Syria further sealed Lebanon from the outside world.

 

The Israeli naval blockade and earlier strikes against roadways had already closed off other main access points.

 

Fierce fighting also continued along the border, and Hezbollah said in a statement broadcast by the group's Al-Manar TV station that its fighters had killed six Israeli soldiers near the villages of Aita al-Shaab and Markaba.

 

Rockets pound Israel

 

The clashes came a day after a massive barrage of Hezbollah rockets pounded northern Israel, killing eight people, and an offer by Hezbollah's leader to stop the attacks if Israel ends its air strikes.

 

Hassan Nasrallah also threatened to fire rockets at Tel Aviv if central Beirut was attacked again.

 

"If you strike Beirut, the Islamic Resistance will strike Tel Aviv and it is able to do so," Nasrallah said on Al-Manar TV Thursday.

 

South Beirut has been attacked repeatedly by Israeli warplanes since fighting began more than three weeks ago, but the strikes early Friday hit the affluent Christian locality of Jounieh, north of the capital, for the first time.

 

The bombing of the picturesque coastal resort marked a sharp expansion of Israel's attack on Lebanon, which now threatens Christian areas where Hezbollah is believed to have little support or presence.

 

Meanwhile, in the hills of southern Lebanon, Israeli artillery intensified bombing overnight, sometimes sending as many as 15 shells per minute against suspected Hezbollah strongholds.

 

'At least 900 Lebanese killed'

 

Lebanese Prime Minister Fuad Saniora said Thursday that at least 900 Lebanese, mostly civilians, had been killed and more than one million people -- or about a quarter of Lebanon's population -- had been displaced.

 

Around 68 Israelis have been killed, including 41 soldiers and 27 civilians. More than 300,000 Israelis have fled their homes in the north, Israeli officials said.

 

Despite Hezbollah's truce offer and continuing international diplomatic efforts to broker a cease-fire, Israeli Defence Minister Amir Peretz told top army officers to begin preparing for the next stage of the offensive in south Lebanon -- a push up to Lebanon's Litani River.

 

Such a push would require further approval by Israel's Security Cabinet and could lead to far more casualties.

 

Meanwhile, at the United Nations Thursday, France circulated a revised resolution calling for an immediate end to hostilities and spelling out the conditions for a permanent cease-fire and lasting solution to the crisis.

 

Israel, backed by the United States, has rejected calls for an immediate cease-fire, saying it wants an international force or the Lebanese army to deploy in southern Lebanon to prevent future Hezbollah attacks.

 

The offensive in Lebanon began on July 12 after two Israeli soldiers were captured by Hezbollah fighters.

 

With files from the Associated Press

 

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/stor...?hub=TopStories

 

Dianjan probably will continue to support Israel because he is a ruski yevrei pretending to be Armenian. I'm telling you, he's a Zhid.

[ED]

It's amaizing how we Armenians took an jew, arab bashing as a majoring factor as who is more Armenian and who is not, this phenomenon I never can fathom as to why, does hating some ethnic group makes as more Armenian?

 

and

Iranfoever, 15 Levels is a great Armenian and has done a lot in recognition of AG, do some searching and look into his website before lashing out at him

[Verginne]

It's amaizing how we Armenians took an jew, arab bashing as a majoring factor as who is more Armenian and who is not, this phenomenon I never can fathom as to why, does hating some ethnic group makes as more Armenian?

 

and

Iranfoever, 15 Levels is a great Armenian and has done a lot in recognition of AG, do some searching and look into his website before lashing out at him

 

So when did israel and the jewish lobbies stop denying the AG? When did they renounce their pledge to do all they can to help turkey and azerbaijan?

 

I think 15 Levels comes here to advertise himself and to vomit the lies of israel.

 

As long as people don't KNOW their enemy, all they are going to be doing is pathetic whining that gets them absolutely NOTHING.

 

I will tell you that recently some israeli gave an interview to an Armenian news site that really caused me to have steam coming out of my ears. He had the nerve to say:

 

Unfortunately, the fact that these two states are situated on the territories that belonged to them historically is hated by many Islamists throughout the globe. There is no place for compromise in the war on international terror, that is why the support of the Armenian public and Diaspora will strengthen the Jewish state which stands on the frontline with this evil.

 

Of course he left out the part about how israel is best buddies with those who are THE REAL THREAT to Armenians/Armenia, now that is khutspa.

 

The LAST thing Armenia/Armenians want to do is strengthen israel who has a military partnership with both turkey and azerbaboonistan...who gave intelligence information and supplies to azeris during the Karabakh War to kill Armenians. who do everything in their power to support turkey and azerbaboonistan in the US Congress to oppose the recognition of the AG on any and all fronts, not passively, but actively in the front lines. The jewish state IS THE FRONTLINE of evil for turkey and azerbaboonistan.

 

Like Armenians should stab in the back those people who gave refuge to Armenians during and after theAG: Lebanon, Syria, Iran, Iraq, non-jewish Palestine, all of them....their enemies. The israelis/jews can go to hell, the sooner the better.

 

Anyway, what I am saying is just basic logic and decency. No need to wonder about anything.

[vava]

Anyway, what I am saying is just basic logic and decency. No need to wonder about anything.

 

Decency??? Please get a grip!

Your posts are consistently filled with accusations, disparaging remarks, insults, violence and hate. It's a FAR cry from decency.

 

You can't you and your ilk figure out that by propogating hatred, you will never accomplish your supposed 'goals'. Hatred begets hatred and inevitably hate is the problem. You are advocating means that are not only a divisive force amongts Armenians, but serve to further isolate us from the world's public opinion.