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Yervant1, I think you knew my answer. I am a direct descendant of the last royal family of Cilician Armenia. They were members of the Catholic Church, associated with Rome not Etchmiadzin.

Thanks to my father, after the church incidents, we left the Catholic Church to be raised as Protestants. I had spoken up as I was a precocious child. As for Arpa's comment that persons such as myself despise women, that is a stretch. I have had many rewarding opposite-sex relationships, sexual and otherwise. Now I will disappear for another few years.

Serop Der-Boghossian and Jerry Sandusky, two prominent and powerful persons in their respective communities, tied to the highest levels of society. Now do you all believe that I, known as a young child as "payloon eres," was being raped by a young Catholic priest in one of the then most affluent communities in America, while Damadian played his violin just blocks away. Think about this when our Catholicos breaks bread with the Pope, who is documented as having covered up this kind of stuff for decades.

Baron Zakaryan, If you wish to make sure that there is no homosexuality in Armenia in the future, the place to fix this is not in the schools but in the bio-genetic labs, through genetic engineering. No amount of education nor psychological counseling can stop this when the student reaches adulthood. Homosexual relations are found in every culture and historically found in ancient history as well. Heterosexual mothers and fathers carry the recessive gene which they sometimes pass on to their children. Bisexuals also marry and pass the gene on to their heterosexual children as a recessive gene which surfaces generations later. /PanARMENIAN.Net/ Psychosexual education should become a compulsory subject in kindergarten and school curricula, according to Ph.D. Candidate of Sexology Marat Zakaryan, Assistant in Sexology Chair at Yerevan State Medical University. `The absence of such education causes deviations like homosexuality etc. This is a problem that should be resolved on state level,' he told today a news conference. At that, he stressed the importance of raising awareness among teachers. `The country's main problem is the existence of a great number of poor quality books whose accessibility disorients teenagers. Free access to the Internet can also have harmful effect,' Mr. Zakaryan said, stressing the importance of starting psychosexual education at pre-school age.

The fear of the Turkish public of all things Armenian is irrational. A nation of 70 million fearing a nation of 3 million? Or is the fear based on the sword of Damacles sitting above the Turkish nation, namely the expose of the extermination of the Armenians? A re-education is beginning in Turkey so that Turks can admit to themselves what they already know, but fear. That their Eastern provinces were a killing fields.

We are witnessing the most tectonic movement in Turkey to have transpired in 100 years. We are seeing the re-Ottomanization of Turkey. We are finally seeing the weakening the power of the Doenmeh.

The descendants of the Cilician Armenian dynasty are members of the Priory of Sion. They mingle in your midst.

Gonul only stated what most Turkish leaders accept as truth. His "mistake" was "letting the "cat out of the bag."

These monks know nothing of the essence of Jesus' teachings. It is not about ritual. Both of these churches, as well as the other major Christian denominations, lost their way many centuries ago.

Genocide Recognition, in and of itself, means nothing. We should press for a return to a time when the Armenian presence in the Turkish state was acknowledged. The current situation in Turkey is like the mantra in the novel "1984." "Armenians never existed in these provinces." They have no history here." Tabula Rasa must end!!

In the 2004 Presidential election, I found newspaper articles of Armenian-Americans praising George Bush. 2008 is a "no-brainer." Will any self-respecting Armenian-American support John McCain? There has never been a clearer choice on Armenian issues.

John McCain at his Saddleback appearance today spoke of Georgia as the second earliest Christian country. He spoke of this at length, never mentioning Armenia. He also discussed Genocide at length, but never mentioned the fate of Armenians in what is now eastern Turkey. As for the present conflict, he did not mention that Georgia was the initial aggressor who entered South Ossetia to bring it back under Georgian control.

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While you guys chat here and make a lot of noise, OUTCASTS such as myself are making major inroads for the Armenian Cause. I have single-handedly revolutionized Armenian-American power in the US government processes. Obama will pick a shocking VP, who is totally dedicated to the Armenian Cause, and who will help him reach the White House.

Armenians have an isolationist syndrome problem due to centuries of persecution. In Jerusalem, the Armenian sector is rarely visited by odar tourists. It is isolated. The majority of the Armenian diaspora attend the Armenian Church and have social relationships mainly with fellow Armenians, again causing isolation. The most successful Armenian-American politicans have been either Protestant or Catholic, because they have had to learn to interact with odars. The Jews learned this lesson may decades ago, but we are in our political infancy. Yes, Ed, money is the milk-blood of politics and close associations count. The days of Lincoln are long past. Campaigns need millions to compete effectively on television. Look how millions of Turkish government dollars have stymied the recognition of what the Association of Genocide Scholars know to be a reality. We can no longer afford to be purists who ignore reality.

How long are Armenians going to stick their heads in the sand? We have to get into the inner circle of the candidates. The reason that President Reagan continued to affirm the Genocide was because Aram Bakshian and Ken Khachigian were with him almost every day. If Anna Eshoo and Jacike Speier were not two of Nancy Pelosi's closest personal and professional friends, she would not have steadfastly supported the Genocide Resolution in the the face of the Turkish government barrage. The Governor of California, Arnold Schwarzenegger, has an Armenian, Lisa Kaloustian, working with him every day. We need Armenians in Obama's inner circle. We need to have our wealthiest Armenians support Obama.

When I was in Armenia, I spent most of my time in the Museums and the Matenadaran. The only churches that I found interesting were the two above Lake Sevan and the one at Khor Virap. What about Dilijan? How come few tourist companies mention it? We have an illustriuos history before the Christian era. Enough with the church to church tourist agenda. I surprisingly find myself agreeing with Arpa. By the way this old HAG doesn't look a day over 45.

ARMENIAN AMBASSADOR TO CHINA PASSED AWAY Armenian Foreign Ministry said on June 10 Ambassador to China, Vahagn Movsisian, 47, died suddenly in Beijing, Armenpress agency reported. Vahagn Movsisian was born in 1961. He graduated from Armenian Agricultural University in 1983. In 1986 he defended his Ph. D thesis on agricultural mechanization. In 1989-90 he studied at former USSR Higher Commercial School and in 1991-93 at Russian Economy Academy. He worked for HayGazArd and then for Prometevs gas companies. In 1993-2000 he worked at Armenian banking system. From 2000 to 2007 he was executive director of the Armenian Development Agency (ADA), secretary of Business Support Council, affiliated with prime minister and secretary of a prime minister affiliated Council for Information Technology Development. He served as Ambassador to China since 2007. His contribution to Armenia’s economic development and raising its international image was big. KAREN ASRYAN Karen Asryan, one of Armenia’s leading chess players, reigning champion and winner of the 2006 World Chess Olympiad, died Monday after a reported sudden loss of consciousness in his car. According to a report by the Armenian Chess Federation, apparently feeling ill, Asryan pulled his car into a court yard in Yerevan early Monday and lost consciousness. An ambulance crew pronounced him dead at the scene, possibly of a heart attack, Armenian chess officials said. A moment of silence was held in Asryan’s memory before the opening of the Chess Giants rapid-chess tournament in Yerevan on Monday after his death was announced by Armenia’s veteran chess player Smbat Lputyan. The tournament organizers also said the rounds of June 10 and June 11 of the Chess Giants tournament are postponed because of the sudden death of Asryan. The tournament will continue on June 12. And the rapid open scheduled to have been played in parallel to the main tournament from June 12-15 had been canceled due to the tragic news of Asryan’s passing away. Asryan, 28, was ranked 92nd by the World Chess Federation FIDE and 4th among Armenia’s chessmen (currently rated 2630). Asryan won Armenian championship titles three times (in 1999, 2007 and 2008) and pulled off the Olympic gold with Team Armenia in Turin, Italy, in 2006. After the triumphant return from Turin, Asryan gave an interview to ArmeniaNow staff reporter Arpi Harutyunyan, in which he shared his special feeling of having won an Olympic gold. “We were proud: no individual victory can be compared to winning an Olympic champion’s title,” he said then. The champion then said he did not consider himself a chess fanatic. He added there were things more important than that, mainly family: “I don’t think I have sacrificed some things for the sake of chess. This is my profession, that should take from me not my whole life, but as much time as is allotted to the profession.”

The two homosexuals that I was renting my condo from attended Church religiously every Sunday, had The Last Supper picture in their dining room and watched Joyce Meyer every day. They were obsessed with her. My girlfriend had no idea that they were homosexuals. Homosexuals are only those who are disgusted by sexual relations with the opposite sex. They find nothing attractive in the opposite sex. They can not understand how others can find the opposite sex attractive. They are a mirror image of heterosexuals who are disgusted by the thought of homosexual relations.

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Neither did the REAL Vartan look Chinese. The original Mamigonians had come to Armenia centuries before the time of Vartan Mamigonian and had intermarried with Persian and Armenian nobility, time after time for four or more generations. The progeny of Chinese who intermarry with Caucasians don't look Chinese after two generations. Vartan was four generations or more removed from his odar ancestors. He looked similar to other Armenians.

That court decision is for gays, not me. Why would I want to marry a guy?

We are so few here way outside the Armenian mainstream and yet we get support for Armenian Causes. What are you Canadian Armenians doing? Sitting on your vorigs? http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/sto...PStory/National COUNCIL OF TURKISH CANADIANS Genocide book pulled from high school reading list UNNATI GANDHI May 16, 2008 A book about genocide has been pulled from the recommended reading list of a new Toronto public school course because of objections from the Turkish-Canadian community, the author says. Barbara Coloroso's Extraordinary Evil: A Brief History of Genocide was originally part of a resource list for the Grade 11 history course, Genocide and Crimes Against Humanity, set to launch across the Toronto District School Board this fall. The book examines the Holocaust, which exterminated six million Jews in the Second World War; the Rwandan slaughter of nearly one million Tutsis and moderate Hutus in 1994, and the massacres of more than a million Armenians in 1895, 1909 and 1915. But a committee struck to review the course decided in late April to remove the book because "a concern was raised regarding [its] appropriateness. ... The Committee determined this was far from a scrupulous text and should not be on a History course although it might be included in a course on the social psychology of genocide because of her posited thesis that genocide is merely the extreme extension of bullying," according to board documents. Director of education Gerry Connelly did not return calls seeking comment yesterday. Ms. Coloroso, a best-selling author of parenting books, said she wasn't surprised her work was removed, given that "ever since the book came out, the Turks have mounted a worldwide campaign objecting to it, which is not surprising because of the denial of the genocide." She said what upset her was not so much that her book had been pulled, but that it was replaced by works by Bernard Lewis and Guenter Lewy, whom she refers to as deniers of the Armenian genocide. "I knew when I wrote Extraordinary Evil that I would anger some genocide deniers," she wrote to Ms. Connelly. "I am disappointed that a small group of people can bully an entire committee. ..." The Council of Turkish Canadians is opposed to the course for classifying the Armenian killings as genocide and inciting anti-Turkish sentiment. It has gathered nearly 11,000 signatures on an online petition calling for changes to the course. Turkey has denied the killings were genocide, saying they were First World War casualties. Kevser Taymaz, president of the council's board, said yesterday the book's removal was "one positive move" by the school board, but added the Armenian massacres should not even be considered as part of course that is entitled "Genocide." "The course is one-sided. If they want to introduce the events of 1915, it should be giving the historical truth from both sides and let the students decide." Aris Babikian, executive director of the Armenian National Committee of Canada, said Armenian-Canadians feel the course as it stands is headed "in the right direction." "But we have some concerns about ... the inclusion of Bernard Lewis and Guenter Lewy as reputable scholars. It will be unjust to the hundreds of scholars who have researched the Armenian genocide."

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What makes an Armenian is what I am. To have been raised in an odar world yet speak Armenian and be involved in Armenian Causes. To send money to Armenia even when you do not approve of the way ordinary Armenians there are being treated. To read, read, read about our history. To have married an Armenian as I did. You are what your culture is. I am not trying to glue my identity to others. I am seeking scholastic truth.