dianjan Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Time will tell my dear. In my family women are also equal to men, but what happened to give and take, find an equal formula and work it out rather than giving up on them and go to the arms of odars and later do things that you didn't want to do in the first place. Well, I hope you're wrong...But it was and still is in my family an equality between men and women, and that's why I appreciate that so much. However, the Armenian gyu who I dated wasn't like that. And the guy who I'm with now, is just like that, plus in our last 7 years of being together, he demonstrated to me all the qualities that I would need to marry someone. So, it is give and take. I gave up marrying an Armenian, for someone that makes me happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dianjan Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 (edited) Dianjan, you are right in making your choice. If being equal to a man was the most important thing to you then you made the only choice you could. Men and women are too different to be equal. And in reality, there can be no equals. One has to be a tiny bit more "equal" so that chaos can be avoided. Someone always has to give in a little or compromise. And most of the time, if you let them feel like a man then they will let you have it your way. They just don't like to be broken. I have always been respected in my family also, but I was also taught to be a lady. You're right, there's no exact "equal", and I think I didn't emphasize that it's not the only reason why I'm with him. It's a long history of 7 years of us being together and him proving to me more and more that he's the right one in many, many aspects. Even my mom, who in the beginning was devestated that he's not Armenian, and that especially I broke up with a guy who's family is my family's close friends ( you know how it is, when two very close families want their children to be together), but now she loves him like her own son. Edited August 3, 2006 by dianjan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 What bugs me the most is that, I know lots of Armenian families where the boss in the family are the women and yet men comes out as the bad guys is beyond reason and logic. The problem is that our Armenian girls are too strong and independent and I have no problems with that cause I want them to be strong and confident but don't see the men as wanting their way in reality women get away with murder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoushik Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 ... but I have never been attracted to otars. Mer tgheq@ shat hamov en. LOL. Me neither! Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beauty Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 I think it is just ridiculous to sit , waste your best years waiting for a non-existant Armenian prince, there are no enough decent Armenian guys to marry all beautiful, smart and caring Armenian girls. Most of Armenian men I have met in my life failed to be good hustbands, there are rude, possesive and unfaithful. So why should we marry a worhless Armenian jerk or not to marry at all for the sake of the "stick to your culture " thing instead of being happy with someone outside your culture. Dear Armenian girls , do not narrow down your choices of potential hustbands to only Armenians , you risk to stay unmarried until death. There are so many great guys of different ethicities out there who will make you happy and self-sufficient women. Besides mixed-blood children come out really cute! No offense to Armenian guys, but I have spent almost a quarter of century waiting for a nice Armenian guy, but nope, didn't happen and I expanded my horizon and met a decent "otar" , and feeling happy and independent... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aSoldier Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 I have spent almost a quarter of century waiting for a nice Armenian guy, but nope, didn't happen and I expanded my horizon and met a decent "otar" , and feeling happy and independent... Don't give up, you're closer than you think. There’s an old Chinese saying, it goes like this: “The temptation to quit will be greatest just before you are about to succeed.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beauty Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Don't give up, you're closer than you think. There’s an old Chinese saying, it goes like this: “The temptation to quit will be greatest just before you are about to succeed.” I already met a nice otar guy, I did give up on Armenian guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanor Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 I'm happy that you gave Armenian men a chance. Even though you could not find one that you could love and marry, you should not generalize and call all Armenian men as avanags. Yes we have our fair share of them but this is also true with Armenian women. Yervant jan Do not take it personally. I am sure there are 100s of fantastic Armenian men around the world but to my luck I did not find any. The ones I knew around me, were somehow not very willing to be my husbands! You cannot run after a man if he does not want you! I am a proud woman, and if a man doesn't run after me, I do not run after him!!! As simple as that! Nowadays some women are desperate to run!That shows the weak of a woman! It is difficult to travel around the world to find a husband or a wife let alone ARmenian!! Also, do not forget, you will have to change your job, home, life, family to find a man??? How? It is not as easy as you think... since those are generally the Armenian woman's wishes... Armenian Caring Not womanizer Not too bad looking between modern to old fashioned Not mummy's boy!!! Help me here... You think men don't think the details? Knowing how to cook Armenian food 100% Thin Virgin Gorgious Tallented Working nor not working but ready for babies as soon as marrid! At least those are the types of men I knew! .... Well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kakachik77 Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 my 2 cents on this is that Armenian non-Armenian most men who want to settle down do want a woman who is going to cook/clean/laundry/kids and make a home. Men have similar mentalities irregardless of culture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dianjan Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 my 2 cents on this is that Armenian non-Armenian most men who want to settle down do want a woman who is going to cook/clean/laundry/kids and make a home. Men have similar mentalities irregardless of culture. There's a difference of wanting it and expecting it. There's nothing wrong with a woman cooking, cleaning, but there's something wrong when a man does not want to help out with anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 my 2 cents on this is that Armenian non-Armenian most men who want to settle down do want a woman who is going to cook/clean/laundry/kids and make a home. Men have similar mentalities irregardless of culture. Kakach jan, I clean, wash, love to cook, clean the pool, make up the beds, wather the lawn, spend time with my son, walk my dog and tell my wife a story at bedtime........and how come she bitches all the time?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExtraHye Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Kakach jan, I clean, wash, love to cook, clean the pool, make up the beds, wather the lawn, spend time with my son, walk my dog and tell my wife a story at bedtime........and how come she bitches all the time?? I'm sure it's out of love Edo jan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 I'm sure it's out of love Edo jan. yeselem asum sirelutse Extra, ba esqan sires knojet u hech? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kakachik77 Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Kakach jan, I clean, wash, love to cook, clean the pool, make up the beds, wather the lawn, spend time with my son, walk my dog and tell my wife a story at bedtime........and how come she bitches all the time?? I don't know, I've never been married Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kakachik77 Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 The irony is whatever we don't do for an Armenian we do it for an odar with pleasure. I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted August 4, 2006 Report Share Posted August 4, 2006 Kakach jan, I clean, wash, love to cook, clean the pool, make up the beds, wather the lawn, spend time with my son, walk my dog and tell my wife a story at bedtime........and how come she bitches all the time?? I am sure she appreciates whatever you do (BTW good Job)...It is just a women thing, we have to say something..LOL My husband says that i look like a "Boxooki Girk" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Em Posted August 4, 2006 Report Share Posted August 4, 2006 Kakach jan, I clean, wash, love to cook, clean the pool, make up the beds, wather the lawn, spend time with my son, walk my dog and tell my wife a story at bedtime........and how come she bitches all the time?? See, Edward is proof that there are GREAT Armenian men out there. Lol. Edward jan, Extra is right, shat sireluca. Hastat qo arracneri dem kin@t kezi hasnuma. Kaskats chunem vor duq baxtavor zuyger eq. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Posted August 4, 2006 Report Share Posted August 4, 2006 See, Edward is proof that there are GREAT Armenian men Lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExtraHye Posted August 4, 2006 Report Share Posted August 4, 2006 Awwwww jannnnnaaaaa your blushing!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted August 4, 2006 Report Share Posted August 4, 2006 Awwwww jannnnnaaaaa your blushing!!!! Now we know Edwards weakness. Edward you are the man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vartan Mamigonian Posted August 5, 2006 Report Share Posted August 5, 2006 Now we know Edwards weakness. Edward you are the man. Confucius says: "One who contradicts himself, is contradictory." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaunt Posted August 5, 2006 Report Share Posted August 5, 2006 If we are Armenian-AMERICANS, how can we possibly consider classifying American women as "odars?" If "odar" simply means "non-Armenian," then I can understand. But if "odar" means "alien," I am bewildered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted August 5, 2006 Report Share Posted August 5, 2006 See, Edward is proof that there are GREAT Armenian men out there. Lol. Edward jan, Extra is right, shat sireluca. Hastat qo arracneri dem kin@t kezi hasnuma. Kaskats chunem vor duq baxtavor zuyger eq. BA da el HArtsa QERI Unenq Ashxarh@ chuni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted August 5, 2006 Report Share Posted August 5, 2006 Kakach jan, I clean, wash, love to cook, clean the pool, make up the beds, wather the lawn, spend time with my son, walk my dog and tell my wife a story at bedtime........and how come she bitches all the time?? Edward jan i do the same but in Revers order in the morning i tell her story on haw I'm gona #1 walk my dog #2 spend time with my son ( other then taking him fishing hunting + cruising in Old Town + Listings on Ebay, haw to user font page 2003 & Office ) #3 water the lawn, Tomatoes, cucumbers & the rest #4 clean the driveway #5 that i will never cook BBQ #6 keep my office clean #7 not spend meaningless hours front of my computer and she tells me, that i'm telling her the same story every day Fine be that way i'f you don't like my story you will not even like my work so I'm doing nothing till she approves my story it's 3.51pm time to go home / work on a new story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Em Posted August 6, 2006 Report Share Posted August 6, 2006 BA da el HArtsa QERI Unenq Ashxarh@ chuni MosJan, chem kaskacum. Uzum ey urishnerin apacucel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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