War In The Middle East

[Z'areh]

It is just a matter of time that the Armenian regions in Beirut would be hit. If they are destroying targets in the Christian sections such as Jounieh and Ashrafiyeh, the latter just a stone throw from Bourj Hammoud, it is not inconceiveable that the so-called IDF, more like ITF=Israeli Terror Force, would hit Armenian regions. They are out of control and feel confortable to commit atrocities after having secured the shameful silence of the West.

 

Armenia should send a diplomatic warning to Israel to ensure the safety (if there can be such a thing) of Armenian lebanese neighbourhoods in perticular and safety of all innocent citizens in general. Armenia can humiliate Israel internationally, someone has to do it, and in the light of Israeli pro-Turkish position on the Armenian Genocide this would seem a fair game.

Edited July 23, 2006 by Z'areh

[Dave]

Z'areh did you know that Nasrallah himself is born in Bourj Hammoud?

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasan_Nasrallah

[Sassun]

Yes, Nasrallah is indeed born in Bourj Hammoud, and from what I know, also knows Armenian...

 

Calls have been increasing recently for countries to withdraw their diplomats from Israel in protest.

[Z'areh]

Z'areh did you know that Nasrallah himself is born in Bourj Hammoud?

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasan_Nasrallah

 

 

No I didn't know, he must have grown up among Armenians, because in 1960 there were around 250.000 Armenians in Lebanon, if not more, Bourj Hammoud was essentially all Armenian. Demography has changed drastically since, but B.H. still remains a center for Armenians in Lebanon.

 

Nasrallah however, regardless where he was born, counts South Lebanon as his ancestral home.

 

On another note: Condoleeza Rice is coming to Jerusalem (Hark! I hear Trumpets). We will see soon whether she is going to engage or suggest engaging with the Syrians politically to solve this problem, or give directives to Israel to attack Damascus.

[Verginne]

It is just a matter of time that the Armenian regions in Beirut would be hit. If they are destroying targets in the Christian sections such as Jounieh and Ashrafiyeh, the latter just a stone throw from Bourj Hammoud, it is not inconceiveable that the so-called IDF, more like ITF=Israeli Terror Force, would hit Armenian regions. They are out of control and feel confortable to commit atrocities after having secured the shameful silence of the West.

 

Armenia should send a diplomatic warning to Israel to ensure the safety (if there can be such a thing) of Armenian lebanese neighbourhoods in perticular and safety of all innocent citizens in general. Armenia can humiliate Israel internationally, someone has to do it, and in the light of Israeli pro-Turkish position on the Armenian Genocide this would seem a fair game.

 

 

Sounds like you're changing your tune now, you've been their BIGGEST supporter in the past. What;s different now?????? You have always placed them first and foremost before Armenians.

[Z'areh]

Sounds like you're changing your tune now, you've been their BIGGEST supporter in the past. What;s different now?????? You have always placed them first and foremost before Armenians.

 

 

Changing of a tune?? No dear there’s no changing of any tune.

 

My dearest, you being a tune-deaf person your inability to understand what I write is understandable. Your ear not having been equipped to grasp what a "tone" is, in the first place, will always confine you to understanding the One-Note-Holocaust denying-Samba, (my apologies to Jobim fans).

 

Not surprisingly, as far as Jews are concerned you are stuck in an out-of-tune cacophonic chord.

Edited July 23, 2006 by Z'areh

[Dave]

Yes, Nasrallah is indeed born in Bourj Hammoud, and from what I know, also knows Armenian...

 

I didn't know that he speaks the language.

 

Do you think that he still has links with Armenian political organizations, such as the ARF?

[Dave]

I just asked my parents. He does speak Armenian.

[Verginne]

Changing of a tune?? No dear there’s no changing of any tune.

 

My dearest, you being a tune-deaf person your inability to understand what I write is understandable. Your ear not having been equipped to grasp what a "tone" is, in the first place, will always confine you to understanding the One-Note-Holocaust denying-Samba, (my apologies to Jobim fans).

 

Not surprisingly, as far as Jews are concerned you are stuck in an out-of-tune cacophonic chord.

 

 

You are exceedingly boring while you try to squirm out of your little love fest you have had going onforever and we have all seen how you value jews more than Armenians.

[Verginne]

The only tunes/chords you know, Zareh, are the Hatikva and Hava Nagila.

[vava]

Vergine you're being a jerk again. Need I remind you??

[Z'areh]

You are exceedingly boring while you try to squirm out of your little love fest you have had going onforever and we have all seen how you value jews more than Armenians.

 

time and again you've proven to be an ass.

 

this is neither the place nor have I any intention to waste time with a mentally defective person, especially in such serious times, now buzz off.

[Harut]

not to start another contraversy, but it's very interesting how israel started attacking lebanon as soon as syrian troops were essencially thrown out of lebanon...

was throwing syria out of lebanon the first step of the long planned attack on lebanon? hmm...

[Z'areh]

not to start another contraversy, but it's very interesting how israel started attacking lebanon as soon as syrian troops were essencially thrown out of lebanon...

was throwing syria out of lebanon the first step of the long planned attack on lebanon? hmm...

 

 

There are two ways to look at it

 

i) some analysts say that this attack on Lebanon was planned five years ago, i.e. soon after Israeli forces were pulled back. Syrian troops coming out of Lebanon gave Israel a free hand to attack without fearing engaging the Syrian troops. They were just waiting an opportune moment.

 

ii) The Syrians, feeling the loss, or potential loss of influence in Lebanon (with a good reason), were very happy to see Lebanon come dangerously close to political chaos, and Hizballah emerge as a dominating force to insure Syrian presence in political affairs of Lebanon.

 

One thing is certain; Lebanon continues to be a battle ground for foreign forces using its territories to fight their causes. Because one has to ask a fundamental question. Why did Hizballah decide to engage in a military action against Israel at this moment in time?

 

1) Summer in Lebanon was promising to be the most successful tourist years in memory,

2) it coincided on the eve of G8 summit in Moscow, Iran was going to be the main item on the agenda.

3) the Lebanese government was under pressure to implement UN resolution 1559 to disarm and disband the militias, which Hizballah stood to lose most.

 

As far as the viciousness of the Israeli attacks on civilians in Lebanon is concerned, it can be attributed to revenge and imbedded racism that permits them to kill innocent people and say it is for Israel's defense. But they are cowards, for they waited the Syrians to pull out to accomplish their "heroic" task. That is why I say the only way to force Israel to stop is for Hizballah to continue bombing Israeli towns as severely as possible. They are a legitimate target in this war. An if Hizballah truly welcomed Israeli war, as was pronounced by Nasrallah, then they should put their money where their mouth is and prove that they are not just full of hot air.

[Verginne]

not to start another contraversy, but it's very interesting how israel started attacking lebanon as soon as syrian troops were essencially thrown out of lebanon...

was throwing syria out of lebanon the first step of the long planned attack on lebanon? hmm...

 

I believe the targeted assassination of Hariri by israel mossad which led to the withdrawal of Syrian troops has set up the present situation.

[Verginne]

Vergine you're being a jerk again. Need I remind you??

 

 

You can call me names all you want but you know I am right. I am used to empty handed jerks in the wrong calling me names because they have nothing else, doesn't bother me in the least.

[Verginne]

time and again you've proven to be an ass.

 

this is neither the place nor have I any intention to waste time with a mentally defective person, especially in such serious times, now buzz off.

 

 

That means NOTHING coming from you and I understand your embarrassment under the circumstances. Too bad, tough luck.

[Dave]

Do you remember when Zahra Kazemi (a photographer) was killed in Iran, Canadian media made a BIG story out of it?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zahra_Kazemi

 

 

Why isn't this the case now, with 7 Canadians killed in Lebanon?

[Dave]

Thousands of communists protested in Tel Aviv:

 

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3279792,00.html

[Z'areh]

Do you remember when Zahra Kazemi (a photographer) was killed in Iran, Canadian media made a BIG story out of it?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zahra_Kazemi

Why isn't this the case now, with 7 Canadians killed in Lebanon?

 

 

Dave, I think the burden rests on the Lebanese communities to make a big noise. Unfortunately they are not so vociferous. Here in Montreal apparently there are over 120,000 Lebanese, however they are not ideologically a homogeneous bunch. For example with all this death and destructions, last week the Lebanese Christian community went ahead with their annual Kermes, which was basically an open air festivities with dancing, music and good times. At the same time there were basically Muslim organized protest march and gathering in a Montreal city square, so they are not fully mobilized as they should be for an effective propaganda purposes.

 

They should bombard local newspapers with letters and loudly protest Israeli bombardments. Unfortunately they have not mastered this art and suffer because of it.

 

We can easily blame Jewish propaganda machine as having the upper hand, but Lebanese incompetence also is at fault.

[Dave]

I thought they did their annual festival during the last week of June.

 

Regardless, they must be really not ideologically homogeneous, because they're people who escaped from the Civil War, so some of them probably still have that Civil War mentality in them.

[Arpa]

Three cheers for the Lebanese president Emile Lahoud.

Could it be his Armenian connection? His wife is of Armenian descent.

WE just heard him declining to criticize Hezbollah. And for that reason he has been excluded from the metting in Rome.

He should be praised for his stance, despite much pressure, in not condemning and criticizing the Hezbollah and its chairman. As much as we may lament the fact that Lebanon is not a majority Christian country anymore, the likes of Lahoud may have matured enough to realize, no matter what creed or party, they are all Lebanese and have Lebanon’s welfare in mind.

Apris Emile Lahoudian! Even if Lahoud may be a variation of El-Yahud.

Edited July 26, 2006 by Arpa

[Eurocentric]

Three cheers for the Lebanese president Emile Lahoud.

Could it be his Armenian connection? His wife is of Armenian descent.

WE just heard him declining to criticize Hezbollah. And for that reason he has been excluded from the metting in Rome.

He should be praised for his stance, despite much pressure, in not condemning and criticizing the Hezbollah and its chairman. As much as we may lament the fact that Lebanon is not a majority Christian country anymore, the likes of Lahoud may have matured enough to realize, no matter what creed or party, they are all Lebanese and have Lebanon’s welfare in mind.

Apris Emile Lahoudian! Even if Lahoud may be a variation of El-Yahud.

 

His mother is Armenian.

[Arpa]

His mother is Armenian.

Yes. Thank you. I knew of the connection, and that it was of the female kind.

Here is how, even of double connection.

Emile Lahoud

From Armeniapedia.org

General Émile Geamil Lahoud (Arabic:اميل لحود) (born January 12, 1936) is the current President of Lebanon. He is the son of General Jamil Lahoud, a leader in the independence movement.

Lahoud served under General Michel Aoun during the final years of the Lebanese Civil War (1975-90). After an Arab League-brokered cease-fire took effect, Lahoud crossed over into Syrian-occupied west Beirut. The Syrians were looking for a Maronite military officer to assume the position of army commander for the pro-Syrian regime in west Beirut, which was endorsed by the 1989 Taif Agreement. Lahoud was offered the position. According to one source, Lahoud had connections to an influential Syria army officer, Ali Hammoud, who recommended him for the job. He quickly accepted. He served in various posts in the military, including commander-in-chief of the army from 1989 to 1998, and then ran for the presidency in 1998, to general approval.

Under the Lebanese constitution, the President's term was only supposed to be six years. However, in 2004 the parliament voted to extend his term for an additional three years, to 2007. Many Lebanese and international observers agree that the extension was illegal and the constitution was illegally amended.

The parliament was pressured to vote for the constitutional amendment to keep him in power by Syria (the main political broker in Lebanon). Currently he is unpopular among many different groups in Lebanon, including the Christians led by Cardinal Sfeir and the Druze led by Walid Jumblatt. They view him as a puppet controlled by the Syrians.

Lahoud is half Armenian and his wife is full Armenian.

This article is (CL) Copyleft, Wikipedia.org

 

Here is the FirstLady, Mrs. Lahoud, aka Andree Amadouni.

http://en.chinabroadcast.cn/ce_critoday/ar...le%20Lahoud.htm

 

And here;

http://www.ars-canada.ca/convention.htm

 

And here is his mother, Adrineh Bajakian;

General Émile Geamil Lahoud (Arabic: اميل لحود, Armenian: Իմիլ Լահուտ) (born January 12, 1936) is the President of Lebanon. He is the son of General Jamil Lahoud, a leader in the independence movement; his mother, Adrene Bajakian, was of Armenian[1] descent.

Edited July 26, 2006 by Arpa

[Z'areh]

Three cheers for the Lebanese president Emile Lahoud.

Could it be his Armenian connection? His wife is of Armenian descent.

WE just heard him declining to criticize Hezbollah. And for that reason he has been excluded from the metting in Rome.

He should be praised for his stance, despite much pressure, in not condemning and criticizing the Hezbollah and its chairman. As much as we may lament the fact that Lebanon is not a majority Christian country anymore, the likes of Lahoud may have matured enough to realize, no matter what creed or party, they are all Lebanese and have Lebanon’s welfare in mind.

Apris Emile Lahoudian! Even if Lahoud may be a variation of El-Yahud.

 

 

Arpa jan, with all the best intention your post could not have been more wrong. President Lahoud’s stance has nothing to do with bravery, maturity or his noble connections with Armenians. He simply cannot criticize or condemn Hizballah. He is a puppet of the Syrian government and is bound with politics accordingly.

 

As for ALL Lebanese being for the welfare of Lebanon, unfortunately when we look in the recent past all what we see is everyone (creed, party) is for his own welfare, national consensus is secondary to family belonging and loyalty (feudalism never dies in Lebanon).

 

Now for the name Lahoud. It comes from Lahd which means grave or a tomb. Lahoud is the plural for Lahd and also signifies the profession of grave digging (how appropriate for his post). As in blacksmith or taylor, somewhere in his ancestry there must have been someone who was in the profession of burying people