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This work should have been done by a French or British company where conservation practices are highly developed. The article tells me that this is more an issue of incompetence than design. What political gain is there by destroying the architectural integrity of the zhamatun?

Given what I have already divulged in this forum, if I named the city we are from it would be very easy to discover my identity as all my grandparents came from the same city. Both my parents were born in that city and were small children at the time of the massacres. We think that our paternal grandfather's family had originated in Nor Julfa and had been transported there by Shah Abbas centuries ago along with other Armenian merchant families from Julfa.

Hey Zurderer, Armenians were the indigenous peoples of the area of Eastern Anatolian highlands. Your ancestors marched in from Central Asia on horseback and planted their seed into some of the Armenian women and their religion into a portion of the Armenians, Greeks and Balkan peoples. The descendents of these have now become the greater majority of the citizens of the Turkish state.

WORDS!!!! Let us all stop with the words and sit down and make a better region for all concerned. There is nothing wrong with using Turkish words. My great-grandfather made the equivalent of billions of dollars using Turkish words. I guess that is too much for you to bear eh, Arpa? ...and why not post exerpts from the Turkish Press? Lock yourself up in your cocoon, eh, Arpa? Enough of the xenophobia on all sides. Having Turks accept the word "Genocide" isn't as important as the Turkish government accepting diversity of religion and culture and restoring minority rights (this includes honoring deeds and bank books of Armenians from before 1915). Neither should Turkey continue with its Turkification nor Russia with its Russification. Armenia does not try to Armenify the Kurds or Greeks living within the ROA.

Yeah, Zurderer, we know! You Turks started with this about 1000 AD.

Hey Arpa, HOW DARE YOU insinuate that I am inviting Turks to enter here? Is there any reasonable limit to your insults? They come here of their own free will. I am sure that they monitor this and all Armenian websites, media, secret Armenian government communications, etc. As you state, we Armenians sit in the middle of their dream and have the potential to devastate the personal finances of many of the present Turkish elite who are living lavishly on stolen resources.

OK, Vartan...what is your "educated" answer? That Peck is "black Irish" like Richard Nixon was, probably descended from the sailors of the Spanish Armada? Please explain your comment which is "floating in space."

When they document the identity of Sinan as an Armenian. You would think they would want to bury thgat information.

The surname was changed to Peck a long time ago (early 1800's) in England where his paternal great-grandfather had settled.

Its not hearsay if your source is a relative of the Pecks, who happens to be a blonde odar-ized Armenian and you have corraborating evidence from Peck's next-door neighbors. What you fools don't understand is that your attitudes are the cause of the White Genocide.

Onward and upward! Despite the efforts of the Turkish and Azeri governments Armenia is getting economically stronger and ready to solve its remaining problems. This after just 15 years. Meanwhile my great-grandfather's vast properties, a"Garden of Eden" in 1915, located within the Turkish Republic, remains utterly desolate and poverty stricken under the "brilliant" Turkish administrators.

The original records state that Sinan (Hovsep) was from the village of Aghernass, near Kayseri.

This was not about winners and losers. You are parroting the Turkish line. This was about the wholesale massacre of persons irregardless of how they felt about freeing the Armenian vilayets from under the Turkish yoke. This was about enriching themselves at the expense of a religious minority. This is about the unlawful confiscation of property also.

Anahid, You have missed what I was stating. This does not have to do with me. It has to do with scientific inquiry.

Anahid, I know all about what you are discussing. I know all about the Doenmeh. You want me to shut up about inquiring about early history. None of this history takes away the facts of the Genocide or the rivalries you allude to. I want Armenians to view history scientifically. Dadrian has become respected because his process is impeccable. Much of early Armenian history is too tied to what is aceptable without scrutinous inquiry.

Hopefully this rate of economic growth will filter to the rural areas where the people are truly suffering. It is noteworthy that this growth is occuring despite Azeri and Turkish efforts to destroy the Armenian economy.

This is wrong. I have recently discovered that the male heads of my family were disemboweled with a schitimar. Only the women, children and elderly were drowned.

Ayo, Hyeren ge khosim. Hye -em paytz keedem ki Taroni meche Mamikonian Chin Hyein hede amousnatzeren. Vaspurakantziner yev Tigranakertziner Hyereh irav Heria en.

Arpa, Are you sure that your heritage is pure? Are you solely descended from the tribes of Nairi? Perhaps you also have some Hebraic, Arab, Chinese, French or Germanic genes flowing in your veins. Have you had a DNA test?

Now, I get it. You don't consider Turkey to be a legitimate nation. I understand, since her laws are a joke. What other nation has laws about insulting Americaness, Russianess, Frenchness, Germaness, etc.?

Skhara, It is obvious that you are not an American like me. Here we refer to nations as "she." As for EU, no government body EVER acts for humanitarian reasons, but for self interest. Ays aboush Hyerah think that EU or USA is going to operate for humanitarian reasons. That is why we get nowhere. They will operate when their self-interests coincide with ours. When the Genocide survivors and their descendants get recompense, California banks and French banks will get "a shot in the arm" of funds."

Thr Turks will NEVER allow Hagia Sofia to become a church again. It is more than a church, it is a symbol of great power and has a mezmerizing influence upon anyone who visits it. Same reason they will NEVER allow the Armenian monastery that sits high on Mt. Ararat to be "discovered."

We should give up on the Israeli government. Except for a few isolated government ministers (e.g. Yossi Sarid and Yossi Beilin) and some Holocaust scholars (e. g. Israel Charney, Yair Auron) we will NEVER get any support from Israel. Our trumps are the members of the EU, who will never collectively (100%) allow Turkey into the EU until she comes clean and makes amends with the Genocide survivors.

JERRY! JERRY! JERRY! JERRY!

Turkey is a police state, ruled in reality by the military. Every leader there functions or is deposed at their whim.