Dan

Right. And I suppose those cops who beat up that black guy weren't caught on a cam... ok... Uhuh... right. What are you talking about? ... ?

I am talking about someone who brings personal anger and hatred into general discussions and attacks me for absolutely no reason at all. He is acting like a pest. So I treat him like one. I'm still wondering why none of the moderators have told him to stop acting like that.. YET.

THOTH -- yeah, living in U.S.A. and hating the white Americans (... living in U.S.A and hating queer people... what core values are you talking about? eh? And Sip, wow... what COULD Armenia offer you that U.S.A doesn't? Is that ALL it's about? And you're talking about national pride? ............... never mind.... ok!

THOTH -- for me, someone who really has no permanent home country and citizenship (as I've moved quite a lot during my childhood), I would say that I would NOT be proud to be a citizen of Canada or any other country for that matter -- the only countries I am/would be proud of being a citizen of are England and Armenia -- because those are my countries, and that is my identity. I would NOT be proud of being a citizen of Canada -- it is a right I would be grateful to be given, but it is nothing I would be proud of. In contrast, I would be SO PROUD to become a citizen of Armenia, because it is rightfully my OWN country.. I guess people and views differ, and I respect others' opinions, but I can't understand how anyone could be proud of something that doesn't really represent anything more than materialism.

Yeah... i donno... but I doubt that those who are OH SO HAPPY to be citizens of U.S.A would be AS happy if/when they get their Armenian citizenship... and that's the sad part... http://www.student.yorku.ca/~shoghig/dan/shakehead1.gif

Armo77, what is YOUR problem??? I believe we all said congrats to her -- a little bit of general criticism or expression of opinion is not necessarily "rain on the parade"... Do you have to oppose everything I say? YOU are the one who's turning this thread into an argument thread... ONE MORE TIME: GROW UP!!! And if you don't like what people say on here, get lost. It's not up to you to decide what people should and should not say or think. TALK ABOUT IDIOCY.

Audre Lorde 1934-1992 "Your Silence Will Not Protect You" Audrey Geraldine Lorde was born on February 18, 1934 in New York City. She decided to drop the "y" from the end of her name at a young age, setting a precedent in her life of self determination. She was the daughter of Caribbean immigrants who settled in Harlem. She graduated from Columbia University and Hunter College, where she later held the prestigious post of Thomas Hunter Chair of Literature. She was married for eight years in the 1960's, and had two children -- Elizabeth and Jonathan. Lorde was a self described "Black lesbian, mother, warrior, poet". However, her life was one that could not be summed up in a phrase. Audre Lorde the Poet Lorde collected a host of awards and honors, including the Walt Whitman Citation of Merit, which conferred the mantle of New York State poet for 1991-93. In designating her New York State's Poet Laureate, the Governor, Mario Cuomo, said: "Her imagination is charged by a sharp sense of racial injustice and cruelty, of sexual prejudice . . . She cries out against it as the voice of indignant humanity. Audre Lorde is the voice of the eloquent outsider who speaks in a language that can reach and touch people everywhere." Her first poem was published in Seventeen magazine while she was still in high school. The administration of the high school felt that her work was too romantic for publication in their literary journal. Lorde went on to publish over a dozen books on poetry, and six books of prose. Audre Lorde the Teacher and Activist Lorde worked as a librarian while refining her talents as a writer. In 1968, she accepted a teaching position at Tougaloo College in Jackson, Mississippi where the violence that greeted the civil rights movement was close at hand every night. This period cemented the bond between her artistic talents and her dedication to the struggle against injustice. Lorde went on to provide avenues of expression to future generations of writers by co-founding the Kitchen Table: Women of Color Press. She was at the center of the movement to preserve and celebrate African American culture at a time when the destruction of these institutions was on the rise. Her dedication reached around the world when she formed the Sisterhood in Support of Sisters in South Africa. She was one of the featured speakers at the first national march for gay and lesbian liberation in DC in 1979. In 1989, she helped organize disaster relief efforts for St. Croix in the wake of Hurricane Hugo. Audre Lorde the Warrior Late in life, Audre Lorde was given the African name Gamba Adisa, meaning "Warrior: She Who Makes Her Meaning Clear". It is a name that applies to her whole life. Her struggle against opression on many fronts was expressed with a force and clarity that made her a respected voice for women, African Americans, and the Gay and Lesbian community. Lorde's son Jonathan Rollins recalled the warrior spirit that his mother possesed by stating that not fighting was not an option -- "We could lose. But we couldn't not fight." Audre Lorde the Quotable "The quality of light by which we scrutinize our lives has direct bearing upon the product which we live, and upon the changes which we hope to bring about through those lives." ( Poetry Is Not A Luxury) "When I dare to be powerful - to use my strength in the service of my vision, then it becomes less and less important whether I am afraid". "I have come to believe over and over again that what is most important to me must be spoken, made verbal and shared, even at the risk of having it bruised or misunderstood." Audre Lorde the Survivor Lorde bravely documented her 14-year battle against the cancer in "The Cancer Journals" and in her book of essays "A Burst of Light". In the latter she wrote: ''The struggle with cancer now informs all my days, but it is only another face of that continuing battle for self-determination and survival that black women fight daily, often in triumph.'' She struggled against disease and a medical establishment that was frequently indifferent to cultural differences and insensitive to women's health issues. She stood in defiance to societal rules that said that she should hide the fact that she had breast cancer. Audre Lorde, died in St Croix, Virgin Islands, on November 17, 1992. Her spirit fights on. http://www.lambda.net/~maximum/lorde.html

yes -- very.. but when it comes down to the same person pissing me off repeatedly, I just ignore him/her.

oh, go to hell already.. if you have a problem, take it to PM. otherwise, stop being a pest. no further comments.

First off, anoushik, congrats. I agree with David with regards to not being your own country... I mean, I understand celebrating for getting the right to vote, but if I'm not really an American (i.e. the descendent of the first people who arrived, etc.), I really wouldn't have much to be happy for/about.. Yeah, I would be very happy to get my immigration papers, but citizenship is an altogether different issue. And it is THIS about America-hyes that I don't understand.. But anyhow -- congrats anyway..

go to the chatroom -- I'm there.. Or add me on MSN (addy in profile)

Yes and no - at least the guy has a little bit more say in what he does... I mean, my mom tried to get a girl for me (lol), and uhhh, I just told her straight out to just cut that sh*t (excuse my language lol).. my mom tried to bring the girl to our home, the opposite of what angel4hope described lol... weird & freaky ... yes... Made me go --> I hate those parents who do that. they should look around them and get a hint that it's not the 18th century....

Korn is good. I have a mixed taste in music... i like Metallica too... and Nirvana.. MMM.. so good..

that's cos you can't afford to buy presents every day... fact is, Christmas is only a commercial holiday... really -- have you seen a lot of Christians really go to church and pray, etc., and thank God for sending his son to earth ,etc. etc.?

k, thanks for the links.

Oh... hmm... weird... cos I've heard a lot of people argue about it.. actually, I think I read it somewhere - the divisions between the catholic and orthodox church -- something about that... hmmm...

Yes, but they seem to wholeheartedly believe that Jesus was born that day...

Christmas day - the day Jesus was born... Churches disagree on the date - is it Dec. 25 or Jan. 6... how exactly do they know? Am I the only one who thinks it's absurd to argue about a difference by 12 days in the birthdate of someone you don't really know much about? What the hell? I mean -- does anyone else think it's just a political debate -- whoever gets to define the date of Jesus' birth would be the most influential, etc.? I don't know much about this -- but has it been really proven that Jesus existed and that he was born on Dec. 25? So what's the big deal about Dec. 25? And Jan. 6... Just wondering...

Congrats Armat.

VERY well said, CrystalHye.

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yes.. that's so sad, isn't it. oh man, if i were a girl, i would be ONE REALLY PISSED OFF girl.. lol..

wow... lol... his parents came to your house to ask your parents if he could go out with you? lmao.. omg... sorry to hear that - that's pretty sad, actually.. AND freaky... ummmhmmm, whatever happened to the girl's PERSONAL decision? hmm, sounds like Gus in My Big Fat Greek Wedding, when he says that "he didn't ask for my permission to go out with my daughter." *cough*.. and whatever happened to the guy actually uhhmmm, introducing himself to the girl, etc.... like, i totally thought we were over that kinda thing (traditions?)...

yeah - i have... we have a lot of Armenian neighbours in our apt. building, and they are significantly older than me and my mom, and they tried match-making for me.... ummm yeah riiiiiiiiiiiiiight looool.. they actually ..... introduced me to the ... girl....

Ellen Wilkinson 1891-1947 Ellen Wilkinson, the daughter of a worker in a textile factory, was born in Manchester on 8th October, 1891. Ellen's parents, Richard Wilkinson and Ellen Wood, were both Methodists. After a period out of work, Ellen Wilkinson's father became a an insurance clerk. Ellen was educated at Ardwick School and at the age of eleven won the first of several scholarships. She later recalled that from this date "I paid for my own education by scholarship until I left university." In 1906 Ellen won a teaching bursary that meant she could enter the Manchester Day Training College for half a week and she spent the rest of the week teaching at Oswald Road Elementary School. Although her father was a supporter of the Conservative Party, Ellen developed an interested in socialism after reading Merrie England by Robert Blatchford. At the age of sixteen Ellen Wilkinson joined both the Independent Labour Party after hearing a speech made by Kathleen Glasier. In 1910 Wilkinson became a student at Manchester University where she studied history under Professor George Unwin. Wilkinson was active in the University Socialist Federation where she met Clifford Allen and G.D.H. Cole. Wilkinson became disillusioned with her studies at Manchester and later, when she became involved with the National Council of Labour Colleges, she realised "how little real history" she had been taught at university. In 1912 became a member of the National Union of Women's Suffrage Societies (NUWSS) and the following year was recruited as a district organizer. Wilkinson also ran the local branch of the Fabian Society where she arranged for people such as Charlotte Despard, Katharine Glasier and Beatrice Webb to speak in Manchester. A pacifist, Wilkinson supported the Non-Conscription Fellowship during the First World War. There were very few women trade union officials at this time but in July 1915 she was employed by the National Union of Distributive & Allied Workers (AUCE). Wilkinson, the first woman organizer of the AUCE, was also active in local politics and in 1923 was elected to serve on the Manchester City Council. In the 1924 General Election she was elected to represent Middlesbrough East. In the House of Commons Wilkinson became known as Red Ellen (both for the colour of her hair and her politics). Active in the 1926 General Strike, afterwards she was co-author with Frank Horrabin and Raymond Postgate of The Workers History of the Great Strike (1927). Following the 1929 General Election the Prime Minister, Ramsay MacDonald, appointed Wilkinson as Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Health. Wilkinson opposed the National Government formed by MacDonald and as a result lost her seat in the 1931 General Election. While out of the House of Commons Wilkinson wrote two books on politics, Peeps at Politicians (1931) and The Terror in Germany (1933) and a novel, The Division Bell Mystery (1932) and contributed articles to the left-wing feminist journal, Time and Tide. In the 1935 General Election Wilkinson re-entered Parliament as MP for Jarrow. The town had one of the worst unemployment records in Britain. In 1935 nearly 80% of the insured population was out of work. Of the 8,000 skilled manual workers in Jarrow, only 100 were working. In 1936 Wilkinson organised a march of 200 unemployed workers from Jarrow to London where she presented a petition to parliament calling for government action. Wilkinson later wrote an account of the Jarrow Crusade and its outcome called The Town That Was Murdered (1939). In 1936 Wilkinson joined with Stafford Cripps, Victor Gollancz, Aneurin Bevan, and George Strauss to start a left-wing weekly journal called Tribune. Wilkinson became associated with the left-wing group of Labour Party MPs that campaigned for the formation of a Popular Front with other left-wing groups in Europe to prevent the spread of fascism. In the 1936 Labour Party Conference, several party members, including Wilkinson, Stafford Cripps, Aneurin Bevan and Charles Trevelyan, argued that military help should be given to the Spanish Popular Front government, fighting for survival against General Francisco Franco and his right-wing Nationalist Army. Despite a passionate appeal from Senora Isobel de Palencia, the Labour Party supported the Conservative Government's policy of non-intervention. In December 1936, Wilkinson and Clement Attlee travelled to Spain where they documented the German bombing of Valencia and Madrid and gave support to the International Brigades fighting against General Francisco Franco. In May 1937 Wilkinson joined with Charlotte Haldane, Duchess of Atholl, Eleanor Rathbone and J. B. Priestley to establish the Dependents Aid Committee, an organization which raised money for the families of men who were members of the International Brigades. Wilkinson was a strong advocate of Hire Purchase reform. She was concerned about the large number of working-class people who fell into arrears and then lost the goods that they had partly paid for. In 1937 an average of 600 people a day were having high purchase goods seized. These were then sold to the public, providing companies with extra profits. Wilkinson also objected to the high rates of interest being charged on the goods. In 1938 Wilkinson's High Purchase Act became law. The act required traders to display on the goods the actual cash price plus the sum added for interest, and protected hirers who had paid at least one third of the sum contracted. In the coalition government formed by Winston Churchill in 1940, Wilkinson was appointed parliamentary secretary to the Minister of Pensions. Later she joined the team led by Herbert Morrison at the Home Office. Wilkinson was made responsible for air raid shelters and was instrumental in the introduction of the Morrison Shelters in 1941. Following the 1945 General Election, the new Prime Minister, Clement Attlee, appointed Wilkinson as Minister of Education, the first woman in British history to hold the post. Wilkinson's plans to increase the school-leaving age to sixteen had to be abandoned when the government decided that the measure would be too expensive. However, she did managed to persuade Parliament to pass the 1946 School Milk Act that gave free milk to all British schoolchildren. Ellen Wilkinson, depressed by her failure to bring in all the reforms she believed necessary, took an overdose of barbiturates and died on 6th February, 1947. http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/TUwilkinson.htm