ExtraHye Posted April 21, 2004 Report Share Posted April 21, 2004 How is Tata Rabiz??? I don't like rabiz music, and his just the best!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurgen Posted April 21, 2004 Report Share Posted April 21, 2004 That's the whole point Extra. Tata is old-school rabiz, and the new pathetic Turk-looking and sounding singers who profile themselves as rabiz are in fact not rabiz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud EXPAT Posted April 21, 2004 Report Share Posted April 21, 2004 That's the whole point Extra. Tata is old-school rabiz, and the new pathetic Turk-looking and sounding singers who profile themselves as rabiz are in fact not rabiz. Thanks for clearing that up gurgen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExtraHye Posted April 21, 2004 Report Share Posted April 21, 2004 That's the whole point Extra. Tata is old-school rabiz, and the new pathetic Turk-looking and sounding singers who profile themselves as rabiz are in fact not rabiz. Thanks Gurgen, I was under the impression that rabiz music was just that, Turk sounding. That's why I was surprised when Proud EXPAT called Tata rabiz. Do I sense a bit of sarcasm Proud EXPAT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud EXPAT Posted April 22, 2004 Report Share Posted April 22, 2004 Huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurgen Posted April 22, 2004 Report Share Posted April 22, 2004 Huh? Guess not eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gevo27 Posted April 22, 2004 Report Share Posted April 22, 2004 I dont think Tata is rabiz... If Tata is rabiz then all other music in armenian is rabiz.. except like opera or like. the oollllllld school hyme like songs and stuf... what makes Tata rabiz anyways???? I know whats not rabiz for sure.. we call them "sharakans" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurgen Posted April 22, 2004 Report Share Posted April 22, 2004 If Tata is rabiz then all other music in armenian is rabiz.. It is, you g00f Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azat Posted April 22, 2004 Report Share Posted April 22, 2004 Tata is Rabiz for sure. Sayat Nova would have been Rabiz at his time as well. couple of interesting threads of the past. http://armenians.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=1201 http://armenians.com/forum/index.php?showt...findpost&p=2326 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twilight Bark Posted April 22, 2004 Report Share Posted April 22, 2004 Azat, it sounds like you are making a Jazz-like argument, right? That any music originating from or filtered through the American black culture is Jazz, making Rap the most recent form of "jazz". That may be. But whatever the case, while I consider the "Armenian" "wedding music" junk as cruel and unusual punishment that should be regulated by human rights, I don't mind Sayat Nova (it's been forever since I listened to it though, perhaps I should one of these days). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azat Posted April 22, 2004 Report Share Posted April 22, 2004 Very much so TB. To me Rabiz is the music of the day, the music that the working class listens to at that given time. And while I agree that Sayat Nova is MUCH different from Tata and the rest of today’s fools, he still used Turkish melodies and I think even words in his music that appealed to the working class of his time. BTW: I agree 100% about you analysis of Armenian Wedding music of today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExtraHye Posted April 22, 2004 Report Share Posted April 22, 2004 Tata and the rest of today’s fools You can't compare Tata with the "rest of the fools" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted April 22, 2004 Report Share Posted April 22, 2004 Very much so TB. To me Rabiz is the music of the day ... But it seems to me, there is no clear-cut standardized definition of "rabiz" in place and people often arbitrarily use it to refer to "that which they don't like". Of course we have had our arguments about what is or isn't rabiz. Much like what is or isn't Armenian, I am sure this question will also have as many answers as there are forumers on this board (maybe even more!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasun Posted April 22, 2004 Report Share Posted April 22, 2004 Hmmm... if we call Sayat Nova rabiz then what should we call Aram Asatrian, Boka and other types (Xrabiz? meaning extreme rabiz or extrarabiz). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted April 22, 2004 Report Share Posted April 22, 2004 One of the best definition’s of RabiZ that I have heard was by comedian Vardan Petorsyan – Rabiz is like a tree lim tat has not been pruned, it grows whichever way it likes, it grows towards the $Sun and demand, thus not know neighbor and boundaries, By the way Parsegyan records just released a Video and a Cd of Armenian Pop Artists Singing Rabiz Armenia's pop singers (Sirusho, Hasmik Karapetian, Aida Sargsyan, Kristine Pepelian, Radik, Alik Harutyunian, Angela Barkhudarian, Suzan Markarian, Hayko, Varduhi Vardanyan, Arsen Grigorian) on a set of rabis and blatnoi songs. http://www.narek-store.com/shop/SearchResu...Stock=VD%2D9402 http://www.narek-store.com/Assets/product/images/VD9402.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teutonic Knight Posted April 22, 2004 Report Share Posted April 22, 2004 Rabiz music is very very popular in Turkey since it's pretty much Turkish music with some Arabic influence and Armenian lyrics. Rabiz artists have had many sold out shows there. In Yerevan there's an antire subculture of anti-rabiz music and rabizutyun. Insh ka stegh chjogelu vor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted April 22, 2004 Report Share Posted April 22, 2004 planavaya by Hasmik Karapetian is one of the best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExtraHye Posted April 22, 2004 Report Share Posted April 22, 2004 planavaya by Hasmik Karapetian is one of the best Is she rabiz too??? She dosen't act rabiz!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted April 22, 2004 Report Share Posted April 22, 2004 Rabiz music is not prohibited in Armenia - but any rabiz singer who will perform a rabiz song or a music is not allowed to rent / perform in any of the government owned concert hall- will not be permitted to sing from public TV ( H1 ) In a short Afon or Mino can’t rent Karen Demirjyan concert hall and sing Ara VAy VAy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vitalichka Posted May 28, 2004 Report Share Posted May 28, 2004 See what people need to understand is that they need to stop hatin. Now before you start to negatively reply, finish reading. That would be the first step to stopping. Now what I mean is that people hate because they're ignorant. But that can be changed. You can learn and thus you must listen to the music. If someone doesn't like something they bullshit it. There are different kinds of music, for different occasions. Like hyebruin said. Some for weddings. Yes we know that sometimes it's tight to listen to a wedding song just cuz it got something that no Rabiz song has. But that is what makes this world have different songs, people and thus creating wars, masacres, genocides among other horible things. Death. Now I know that this may sound off topic but listen. People need to stop hatin, what needs to be done is for people to listen before they judge and unlike some of the people who may after this post sending death threats, you need to stop and smell the flowers. Ok I'm sorry it's the way that it is, but unfortunately this is the way that I understand it. If you listen, you won't have to take my view point but you will learn a different point of view which will open many possibilities in the future. It opens a door, that before you thought didn't need because it didn't exist but now you can have that door. And you will have the chance to open it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoushik Posted May 28, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2004 Who's "hatin"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud EXPAT Posted May 31, 2004 Report Share Posted May 31, 2004 Guys check this out. The girl gets on my nerves but this is cool. http://www.geocities.com/grandcandyremix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-=VAHE=- Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 Mosjan is there really such a rule like that in Armenia? Because I had no clue there would be somrthing like that. Sooner or Later rabiz will go away and something will replace it. Like lately I don't here too many of those tund Rabiz songs coming out from the more famous singers and everything seems to move towards jazzy type of music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurgen Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 Yes we know that sometimes it's tight to listen to a wedding song just cuz it got something that no Rabiz song has. But that is what makes this world have different songs, people and thus creating wars, masacres, genocides among other horible things. Death. Somehow I fail to see the connection between different taste and death and destruction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmMusic Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 Rabiz (short for “Rabochaye Izkustvo” – best translated from Russian as “Peasant Art”) is without a doubt infectious. Reason- same as why Macarena, the Chicken Dance, The Electric Slide and any other cheesy pop tune is. It is a) easily comprehendible – since no vast grammar is needed to write/understand the lyrics catchy- no doubt c) upbeat- must be danceable d) has the forbidden fruit syndrome: our face to the world is that we are a WESTERN civilization, and Rabiz is a reflection of our Eastern influence (i.e. Turkish, Kurd, Mongol) that is why we keep it deeply closeted from the rest of the civilized world. Who would want to admit that he or she indulges in the culture of the nations that have done the unthinkable to the Armenians?!? Mixed with the Soviet Era “Estradain” music and looped through present day midi technology you have what is present day Rabiz. Rabiz is no longer a matter of like and dislike, face it- WE ALL LIKE IT even if little or selectively. You put any human in a cardboard box for a century he will begin to like that also. Except now we are in a different place in time both socially and politically. And our art world is beginning to cross over to other cultures. It is up to all of us to decide what face we would like to show the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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