Anoushik Posted November 10, 2003 Report Share Posted November 10, 2003 (edited) Hello everyone. I have just recently become a member. I searched through quite a lot of topics but I did not find exaclty what was interesting me. So I wanted to post this new topic. It is really amazing how many Armenians of all ages choose to listen to "rabiz" music. As a music major in college we have been taught not to dismiss any kind of music ingorantly without understanding it first. So, concerning "rabiz" I will not say yet that it is in very bad taste and people listening to that kind of music should be ashamed. Rather, I am asking of any fans of "rabiz" to please speak up and let me know what you find so appealing in that music and why you listen to it in the first place. I think you all know what music I am talking about, but just in case you need more detail it is songs sung by such singers as Aram Asatryan, Joseph, Tata, ... And, oh yeah, who could forget Spitakzi Hayko that is currently advertising about an upcoming concert here in Los Angeles?Thank you for your replies. Edited November 10, 2003 by anoushik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyebruin Posted November 10, 2003 Report Share Posted November 10, 2003 hey now girlie don't go mixing in tata with all the 'rabiz'...he is in a different category by himself!! ~~~i think it's great to appreciate a variety of music! i mean rabiz does sound happy and upbeat, don't you think? it's nice to have sayat nova at a wedding, but the 'rabiz brings out all the dancers to the dance floor ... though there is that sort of unpopular "hard core rabiz"...now, that stuff is not only annoying but hazardous to the ear drum, ear nerve...the whole auditory system!!! <_< --you know! the kind where they get all dressed up in a tux and sing---yuck!! yuck!!welcome!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted November 10, 2003 Report Share Posted November 10, 2003 I personally never dismiss music by the category. I make up my mind on a per song, per artist basis. So I don't hate "rabiz" music... some of them do appeal to me like how Harut Pamboukjian would appeal to me. It's hard to say for me exactly what makes a song "appealing" or "interesting" ... it's like asking what makes a "painting" art as opposed to junk. I like a wide variety of music. But I cannot say if a song is a heavy metal rock song that I will like it just becuase I like other heavy metal songs. Welcome to the board by the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
564312 Posted November 10, 2003 Report Share Posted November 10, 2003 Rabiz is great for dancing at kefs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExtraHye Posted November 10, 2003 Report Share Posted November 10, 2003 Tata? Rabiz? Thats not true!!! Granted I won't lison to Rabiz on my way to work or home, but it's very fun at parties Welcome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KavorKin99 Posted November 11, 2003 Report Share Posted November 11, 2003 people can listein to whateva they want right muahzzz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExtraHye Posted November 11, 2003 Report Share Posted November 11, 2003 people can listein to whateva they want right muahzzz KOO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KavorKin99 Posted November 11, 2003 Report Share Posted November 11, 2003 anushik i like rabiz music like aaaaaaaaaa lotttttttt does that make me a bad person? I think not, if you don't like it good for u.....so yaaa that's all i have to say everyone has the right to their taste in music aaaight missy hehe thanks for ur comments they dont offend me hun muahzzz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KavorKin99 Posted November 11, 2003 Report Share Posted November 11, 2003 umm i forgot to add u said rabiz singers are Aram? Aram isn't rabiz he can't sing lol Jospeh he sings arabic if u mean Joseph Krikorian and Tata he's not rabiz he's a regular armenian singer....lol...if you really wanna know rabiz music it's tatoul, hovo, lol and grisha just to let you know that's rabiz i think ur mistaken hehe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angel4hope Posted November 11, 2003 Report Share Posted November 11, 2003 babe i dont know who fooled you, but joseph and tata re not rabiz singers. the definition of rabiz is that they take turkish music - especially the background music- and change the words to it. Tata has many armenian cultural songs on his cd- and many of which he wrote himself- and many of which have alot of armenian background music in them. and joseph- he's berutahye- and i dont know of many berutahyes singing rabiz- if u know what im getting at- Joseph sings different kinds of songs- he has alot of trance type songs i doubt u can consider him a rabiz singer- and many of his fans really dislike rabiz music- ohh and hopefully were talking bout the sam joseph here...lol----okie thats all i had to say1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoushik Posted November 11, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2003 I do not want to offend anyone. It is just very unclear what is so appealing about something with arabic and turkish music with very empty lyrics. And I do understand that for parties and weddings uplifting music is needed and traditional folk music does not work. So why not listen to Armenian pop music even if we don't have much pop in the market? If the Armenians wanted to we could demand of the singers to change their style of singing and theirs choice of songs with something more pop with Armenian roots. So the question is not that we don't have access to Armenian pop and all we have to deal with is "rabiz". The "rabiz" music exists because Armenians want "rabiz" to exist. I just want you guys to tell me why you want "rabiz" to exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angel4hope Posted November 11, 2003 Report Share Posted November 11, 2003 well not everyone likes rabiz music- esp not me- but it still exists- not alott people like michael jackson but hes still singing- these things re not always controlled by people- not every single person- just majority--the only thing is that the majority of people in armenia like rabiz music becuase its probably the most widespread type of music and easily accessed- and i doubt theyre going to play sad duduk music on happy occasions all the time- so whatever is avaiable to the people the people take in and try to adapt to it- most of the time.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyebruin Posted November 11, 2003 Report Share Posted November 11, 2003 wow angel, just read your signature!! hmmm, very refreshing!! good job! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angel4hope Posted November 11, 2003 Report Share Posted November 11, 2003 hehe thanks broosterina- sory im a bit weird 2 day- ignore the weirdness.........hehe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayemyes Posted November 11, 2003 Report Share Posted November 11, 2003 It has been a while since i last posted on this msg board, I would only read the posts and not reply. But, reading this one, I have to express my opinion. First of all, Many Armenians and especially the ones from armenia like rabiz music, why? becasue when you have other cultures' ppl as your neighbors, it is impossible not to be influenced by thm. We also have to realise that the fact that we use turkish music, that same music is often a mix of other cultures' music. Also, there isnt a proper way to change that, since raqbiz is here to stay for a long itme. Also, Tata, I agree isnt a rabiz singer 100%, he is rabiz, but not hardcore like Hayko and Tatoul. And I don't think he has songs with traditional melodies. Most of his stuff is basic tunes written by the keyboard player or some russian-armenian type of music adapted to the lyrics. As for Aram , his image has been polished alot through the years and he is now one of the most popular Armenian singers, which he is worth being, since he is theone of the few who, today at least, try to Armenianize their music as much as possible. The music may soound foreign, but it is simply Armenian, there aren't any translations except for one of the older songs. For the rest, he uses alot of Armenian instruments, and good music. Finally, for Joseph, he's a good artist too and represents Armenain music in the pop category, eventhough he has some Arabic influence for which we can't blame him, since he is Lebanese, just like Tata has alot of russian influence. But he certainly has a great voice which he uses to the maximum. (Joseph that is). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KavorKin99 Posted November 12, 2003 Report Share Posted November 12, 2003 wel i still like rabiz lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExtraHye Posted November 12, 2003 Report Share Posted November 12, 2003 wel i still like rabiz lol KOOO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KavorKin99 Posted November 12, 2003 Report Share Posted November 12, 2003 well i do like it especially at weddings lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hap Posted November 17, 2003 Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 LOL.... arent "rabiz" guys the ones that wear Adidas pants with nice dress shoes and white socks? and drive around in their parents BMW's blasting their armo music? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KavorKin99 Posted November 17, 2003 Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 hell ya there fine azz hell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KavorKin99 Posted November 18, 2003 Report Share Posted November 18, 2003 people can listein to whatever they want too..so stop making a big deal dammnnn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyebruin Posted November 18, 2003 Report Share Posted November 18, 2003 LOL.... arent "rabiz" guys the ones that wear Adidas pants with nice dress shoes and white socks? and drive around in their parents BMW's blasting their armo music? aka "b@b@zoghner@"!!! ......yuck yuck!!!----i'd rather spend eternity in celibacy than EVER end up with one of those!!...especially when they grow their pinky nail and put a big rock on it!! for shame!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoushik Posted November 18, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2003 aka "b@b@zoghner@"!!! ......yuck yuck!!!----i'd rather spend eternity in celibacy than EVER end up with one of those!!...especially when they grow their pinky nail and put a big rock on it!! for shame!!! Glad to see some of my fellow Armenians think as I do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KavorKin99 Posted November 18, 2003 Report Share Posted November 18, 2003 (edited) lol hehehe Edited November 18, 2003 by KavorKin99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud EXPAT Posted April 21, 2004 Report Share Posted April 21, 2004 (edited) Just for everyones info, TATA IS RABIZ. He is true rabiz, the rest of the names mentioned on these messages are NOT true rabiz. Rabiz culture and music has been around for decades, it's not a new thing. Just recently over the past decade or so has it been cheapened by pathetic new artists mixing in our enemy's melodies, which are actually stolen from Arabic and Greek anyway. TATA ADMITS HE IS RABIZ, but he will also admit he is the true rabiz that does not mix in our enemy's melodies. I for one don't listen to any kind of rabiz, the genuine form or the pathetic "new rabiz", but without it it is almost impossible to enjoy yourself at most Armenian get togethers. I think it's about time we have more "true rabiz" artists such as Tata. Artists that create the basic, true and quality "dance" music Tata does. In the meantime, long live Sayat Nova, Komitas and Khatchadour Avetisian, the best artists to ever represent our culture. Edited April 21, 2004 by Proud EXPAT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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