The Situation In Lebanon

[Shahan Araradian]

Can I tell you, not to enrage anyone, America can basically wipe off the whole Muslim population of the world in 1 week. It's all world conspiracy. People are afraid to know the truth.

LOL!! Muslims are more civilized and more humane as to not do such a thing. Look at history: Even though Salahadeen showed mercy to European prisoners of war, the Crusader kings never responded with that sort of humanity.

 

It's the ZIONIST-controlled America and Zionism itself that has got an insatiable desire for control over the world. Not the Muslims. Muslims just want to be kept alone and live life.

 

When the Zionists started buying land in what was then Palestine, the Palestinians accepted them with open arms. Then the Israelis turned on those very same people who accepted them, now having turned Israel into an apartheid racist state, and having created a prison out of what's left of Palestinian cities.

Edited June 8, 2007 by Shahan Araradian

[Sassun]

Բարեկամ: Կապ չ'ունի ով որուն կողմն է: Կռուողներն են կարեւորները: Ամերիկացին կամ Թուրքերը Հրեաներուն համար պիտի չի կռուին պատերազմի դաշտը: Ճիշտ է որ կրնան Ամերիկեան զինամթերք ղրկել հրէական նշաններով ինչպէս Yom Kippur պատերազմը, բայց ի վերչոյ հրեայ զինուորն է որ պիտի կռուի: Եւ եթէ հրեայ զինուորը հաւկիթները չ'ունի Մերքավայ հռասայլէն դուրս քալ ան պիտի եփի Մերքավային մէջ Հեզպալլայի հակահռասայլ հրթիրներով:

 

Մարդ չի կրնար յաղթել այն անձին որ իր հայերենիքին համար, իր տունին համար կը կռուի եւ պատարաստ է պայքարիլ մինչեւ մահ իր ազատութեան համար: ԱՆԿԱՐԵԼԻ Է որ դուն այդ մարդուն յաղթես: Հրեաներու տարիները համրուած են Միչին Արեւելքի մէջ:

 

Այնքան ատէն որ անհատներու եւ կամաւոր բանակներու կրած զենքերը կը զօրանան՝ Իսրայէլի եւ այլ փռնապետներու ճակատագիրը կնգուած է:

Exactly my point.

 

 

 

[Armenak]

Look at history: Even though Salahadeen showed mercy to European prisoners of war, the Crusader kings never responded with that sort of humanity.

Okay: Adana massacres, Armenian Genocide...

 

"Muslim" is very ambiguous.

[Sassun]

Okay: Adana massacres, Armenian Genocide...

 

"Muslim" is very ambiguous.

How about "Turk "???

Give Turkism/Turkishness some "credit". They beg for it after all.

[Armenak]

So, as a Muslim, what do you think of the "pundit" and [sham] scholar Bernard Lewis who goes about publishing books on "The Roots of Muslim rage"? Imagine if someone published a book on the roots of Hrya rage...

[Sassun]

So, as a Muslim, what do you think of the "pundit" and [sham] scholar Bernard Lewis who goes about publishing books on "The Roots of Muslim rage"? Imagine if someone published a book on the roots of Hrya rage...

LOL . It's funny you mention this , I was reading that piece not so long ago ... I must say , it's a work of art. hahaha....

 

Bernard Lewis is an idiot . And like all idiots who talk about Islam without knowing anything about it , he is a Turkophile and a Judeophile. All 3 go hand in hand.

[Shahan Araradian]

Okay: Adana massacres, Armenian Genocide...

 

"Muslim" is very ambiguous.

Right. What I was thinking was "Arab Muslim" not simply "Muslim" when I wrote "Muslim".

 

I don't know much about the value system of Indonesian Muslims. But we already know what the Turkish Muslims are capable of doing, and continue to deny... (although in the information age, more and more Turks are facing reality; it's becoming ever more difficult to deny the genocide.)

Edited June 8, 2007 by Shahan Araradian

[Shahan Araradian]

So, as a Muslim, what do you think of the "pundit" and [sham] scholar Bernard Lewis who goes about publishing books on "The Roots of Muslim rage"? Imagine if someone published a book on the roots of Hrya rage...

Is Bernard Lewis Muslim? He is Jewish according to Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Lewis...menian_Genocide

 

He seems to have an obsession that the recognition of the Armenian Genocide lessens the significance of the Jewish Holocaust:

"But I find enough cause for me to contain their attempts to use the Armenian massacres to diminish the worth of the Jewish Holocaust and to relate to it instead as an ethnic dispute." (quote from Wikipedia article)

 

"Lewis advocates closer Western ties with Israel and Turkey, which he saw especially important in light of the extension of the Soviet influence in the Middle East. Modern Turkey holds a special place in Lewis's view of the region due to the country's efforts to become a part of the West."

 

"Recognizing in bin Laden's language the ideology of jihad, Lewis wrote an essay A License to Kill in which he warned about the danger presented by the holy warrior."...

 

...And Lewis is the ZIONIST warrior, and I claim that Zionism has posed and continues to pose a greater threat to the American way of life than Arabs have during the last 150 years. Indeed, it is ZIONISM that is already pushing the American way of life down the toilet. They are making us fight their wars. They are making us enemies of the Arab Muslims, and Muslims the world over. Why do we need Zionists? Why do we need to associate with people who have so many enemies? Why would Arabs or Muslims hate the U.S. if the U.S. did not support the Zionists who conquered and pillaged the land of the Arabs?

 

Why do we have jihad "holy warriors"? Because of Zionism! Those guys were living peacefully until the Zionists arrived. Why would Arab Muslims have anything to do with the U.S. otherwise?

Edited June 8, 2007 by Shahan Araradian

[Armenak]

Is Bernard Lewis Muslim? He is Jewish according to Wikipedia:

Yes. I was aware of Bernard's tseghagron, if you will.

[Sassun]

Today is the 40th anniversary of the zionist terrorist attack on USS Liberty

 

If you want to know how much control the zionazis have of the U.S, you just need to look at the USS Liberty case , the zionazis attacked (deliberately ) an American ship despite the fact that USA was their own ally , then when there was supposed to be an "investigation" in USA on this incident , they forced the Americans to cover up on the facts , which later came out to public.

 

Btw, the story makes perfect sense (besides the fact that there is perfect proof of it in terms of communications transcripts , etc. ) , especially that recently it was discovered that the 250 POW who were executed were not "fighters " who died during battle as Israel claims, but were actually in fact POW (as Egypt had always claimed) , and they were Egyptian not Palestinian ... The theory is that the ship was spying on Israel during the massacre.

 

[Sassun]

Diplomatic Note From Secretary of State Rusk to the Israeli Ambassador, National Archives and Records Administration, RG 59, Central Files 1967-69, POL 27 ARAB-ISR., Exhibit 20

 

"Washington, June 10, 1967.

 

The Secretary of State presents his compliments to His Excellency the Ambassador of Israel and has the honor to refer to the Ambassadors Note of June 10, 1967 concerning the attack by Israeli aircraft and torpedo boats on the United States naval vessel U.S.S. Liberty, which was carried out at 1605 and 1625 hours local time. Respectively, on June 8, 1967 while the U.S.S. Liberty was engaged in peaceful activities in international waters.

 

At the time of the attack, the U.S.S Liberty was flying the American flag and its identification was clearly indicated in large white letters and numerals on its hull. It was broad daylight and the weather conditions were excellent. Experience demonstrates that both the flag and the identification number of the vessel were readily visible from the air. At 1450 hours local time on June 8, 1967, two Israeli aircraft circled the U.S.S. Liberty three times, with the evident purpose of identifying the vessel. Accordingly there is every reason to believe that the U.S.S Liberty was identified, or at least her nationality determined, by Israeli aircraft approximately one hour before the attack. In these circumstances, the later military attack by Israeli aircraft on the U.S.S. Liberty is quite literally incomprehensible. As a minimum, the attack must be condemned as an act of military recklessness reflecting wanton disregard for human life.

 

The subsequent attack by Israeli torpedo boats, substantially after the vessel was or should have been identified by Israeli military forces, manifests the same reckless disregard for human life. The silhouette and conduct of the U.S.S Liberty readily distinguished it from any vessel that could have been considered as hostile. The U.S.S. Liberty was peacefully engaged, posed no threat whatsoever to the torpedo boats, and obviously carried no armament affording it a combat capability. It could and should have been scrutinized visually at close range before torpedoes were fired.

 

While the Ambassador of Israel has informed Secretary of State that "the Government of Israel is prepared to make amends for the tragic loss of life and material damage," the Secretary of State wishes to make clear that the United States Government expects the Government of Israel also to take the disciplinary measures which international law requires in the event of wrongful conduct by the military personnel of a State. He wishes also to make clear that the United States Government expects the Government of Israel to issue instructions necessary to ensure that United States personnel and property will not again be endangered by the wrongful actions of Israeli military personnel.

 

The United States Government expects that the Government of Israel will provide compensation in accordance with international law to the extent that it is possible to compensate for the losses sustained in this tragic event. The Department of State will, in the near future, present to the Government of Israel a full monetary statement of its claim."

 

Compliments and honor ? Yes ellayine deghnoodeghe kheghtadz eyi ador!!! Goes to show how spineless the American administration has been and still is!!!

 

So, did Israel pay up , I wonder ? Oh sorry, moot point , cos USA awards Israel billions of dollars per year , from American taxpayers' money , so that the jews can live happily ever after while everyone else lives dirt poor or on their knees (or just drop dead ) in the Middle East !!!

Edited June 8, 2007 by Sassun

[Shahan Araradian]

Today is the 40th anniversary of the zionist terrorist attack on USS Liberty

 

If you want to know how much control the zionazis have of the U.S, you just need to look at the USS Liberty case , the zionazis attacked (deliberately ) an American ship despite the fact that USA was their own ally , then when there was supposed to be an "investigation" in USA on this incident , they forced the Americans to cover up on the facts , which later came out to public.

 

Btw, the story makes perfect sense (besides the fact that there is perfect proof of it in terms of communications transcripts , etc. ) , especially that recently it was discovered that the 250 POW who were executed were not "fighters " who died during battle as Israel claims, but were actually in fact POW (as Egypt had always claimed) , and they were Egyptian not Palestinian ... The theory is that the ship was spying on Israel during the massacre.

A more recent fiasco on September 11, 2001, was the "Dancing Israelis" debacle that ended in the 5 Israeli captured Mossad spies who spent 3 months in a U.S. prison to be deported back to Israel after the Israeli foreign ministry became involved.

 

The "dancing Israelis" (5 Israeli youth working for a front Israeli "moving company") were caught filming the burning Twin Towers from a New Jersey parking lot and high-fiving each other and taking group pictures with the towers in the background. A woman alerted police and they were caught shortly thereafter...

 

You can still find an archive of the ABCNews.com article in the way-back machine (ABC has since then removed the news article):

http://web.archive.org/web/20020804061200/...van_020621.html

[Sassun]

Yeah i have heard of that !

 

Not to mention the traitor jew Jonathan Pollard who sent top secret American info to Israel .

 

And also , back in the 60s and 70s , when Israel was developing nuclear weapons , the tons of equipment stolen and sent to Israel for its nuclear program , and also billions of dollars of money stolen and sent also to Israel !!!

[Sassun]

Can I tell you, not to enrage anyone, America can basically wipe off the whole Muslim population of the world in 1 week. It's all world conspiracy. People are afraid to know the truth.

You know, there is a popular saying in Iran these days , it is all over the place on billboards , both in Farsi and in English. Can you guess what it says ?

 

"The U.S cannot do a damn thing."

 

No need to get pissed off. Calm down. Smoke a cig. All roads lead to Rome , err , to downfall of empires.

 

 

[ArmoPhil]

You know, there is a popular saying in Iran these days , it is all over the place on billboards , both in Farsi and in English. Can you guess what it says ?

 

"The U.S cannot do a damn thing."

 

No need to get pissed off. Calm down. Smoke a cig. All roads lead to Rome , err , to downfall of empires.

lol, and Iran can do anything? Iran can think what it wants. What America can do is real.

[ArmoPhil]

I hope you realize that America is using Iraq to get some Military bases built up over there. America's next target is going to be Iran. And Guess who's going to join them.. Jewistan.

[Sassun]

lol, and Iran can do anything? Iran can think what it wants. What America can do is real.

You are making claims, I am not making any claims about what Iran can or can't do. I am telling you that the U.S cannot do a damn thing.

 

Unless that damn thing is peeing in its pants in Iraq.

 

 

[annannimusss]

Sassun, because you can read Armenian and I can't means something, it doesn't. You are a muslim, and your telling me you are more Armenian then me, come on, give me a break.

[Sassun]

Sassun, because you can read Armenian and I can't means something, it doesn't. You are a muslim, and your telling me you are more Armenian then me, come on, give me a break.

In fact I never said I was more Armenian than you or anyone else. I am not. And nor are you more Armenian than me. But it was you who was making that claim by constantly calling me "dajig".

[ArmoPhil]

You are making claims, I am not making any claims about what Iran can or can't do. I am telling you that the U.S cannot do a damn thing.

 

Unless that damn thing is peeing in its pants in Iraq.

I hope you guys don't think that I'm for what the Americans are doing.. Whatever I'm saying is logical.

[annannimusss]

You are now a muslim, or as I see it a assimilated person who adapts to his surroundings and influences of what is around him.

[Shahan Araradian]

Sassun, because you can read Armenian and I can't means something, it doesn't. You are a muslim, and your telling me you are more Armenian then me, come on, give me a break.

Sassun is Muslim? Հայուան է ի՞նչ է այս «Պաշան»:

[Shahan Araradian]

You are now a muslim, or as I see it a assimilated person who adapts to his surroundings and influences of what is around him.

Don't take it personally, but...

 

I think it is Sassun who's sitting in Lebanon and can read in Armenian,

And it's you sitting in Fresno and CAN'T read Armenian.

 

Who is the assimilated one here?

 

Stop the name-calling (e.g. Sassun is a Muslim), because it's you who's losing your credibility

Edited June 8, 2007 by Shahan Araradian

[Shahan Araradian]

I hope you realize that America is using Iraq to get some Military bases built up over there. America's next target is going to be Iran. And Guess who's going to join them.. Jewistan.

LOL. America's there to fight the war of the Zionists. The Zionists decieved the U.S. people and parts of government by:

1. Infiltrating the U.S. State Department, Defense Department, and Bush Administration at the most senior levels: Wolfowitz, Perle, etc.

2. Running the second most powerful lobby, American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) to have Congress vote for anything presented by the Bush Administration/State Department/Defense Department (which they've already infiltrated)

3. Controlling the major media outlets: news on television, newspapers, radio, major sites on the Internet; thereby controlling public opinion (by giving the impression that everything's OK, and that the "terrorists" need to be dealt with)

 

But the reality is...

Iraq never posed a threat to U.S. interests.

 

Iran never has posed a threat to U.S. interests, nor does it currently.

 

Iraq posed a threat to the Zionist state.

 

Iran poses a threat to the Zionist state.

Edited June 8, 2007 by Shahan Araradian

[Sip]

Now now ... we are ALL on the Internet typing in English ... is that part of the "Armenian Identity"? Aren't we all adapting to a changing world?