abass80 Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 (edited) vor tashnagtsoutian kve gou dan hasgtsank! :D let me find some books about Armenian history that i have and i'll give u the sources! Edited June 7, 2007 by abass80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sassun Posted June 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 (edited) And by the way !! for the person who said that Tashnagtoosyoon provoked voters !!! Let me remind you of the Tashnagtsagan guy who got stabbed in Central High School in Ashrafiye by the Arab goons of Ramgavar !!!! The 2000 elections showed the disgustingly low and ugly face of Ramgavars , who sold, yes, sold , the Armenians of Lebanon for their seats promised by Hariri , and even accepted the nomination of an Arab as opposed to an Armenian for the Evangelical seat !!! Guess who the nominee was. Bassel Fleihan , a puppet of Hariri !!! He was killed in the assassination of Hariri, too . Justice has a way of getting back!!! And in 2005 they also reared their ugly head !!! and showed to the whole world how they had sold the Armenian cause for petty benefits !! Tashnagtsootyoon is much more honorable than bowing down in this manner . 1000 dari goozek Tashnagtsootyan magartagin hasneloo !!! Haygagan shaheroon masin mdadzeloo degh tser krbanin yev tser "paregam"neroon shaheroon masin mdadzetsik , paits or@ gooka vor joghovoorte verchnaganabes tsezi aghpin goghove bidi nede !! Himagoohima "democracy" m@ arer ek mechdegh inger ek, vagh@ mooysor ad badjarapanootyoon@ alyeves megoo m@ vra bidi chi kale !!! Edited June 7, 2007 by Sassun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abass80 Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 yeghpair Sassun gartzem te skhal paner g@ses gor! ramgavarner@ shad skhalner @ratz en paits azg@ yerpeg chen tzakhatz! the thing that u r describing that occurred during the elections is not azg@ tzakhel, it is a political game! but becuase i'm not familiar with the details i'll not comment on it! tashnagtsaganer@n al shad metz skhalner kortzatz en, skhlaner vor minchev hima anonts badjarov azg@ g@ douje! but i do not think that this is the topic for us to discuss and analyze the wrongdoings of the 3 Armenian political parties of the diaspora! let's stick to the current situation in Leb in this topic and if u want to talk about the tashnags, the hnchags and the ramgavaras let's open a new topic and let us argue in there for days, for months and why not for years(because that is how long that discussion will take and we will not reach to any conclusions! :D) but do not forget that although we may have different ideologies at the end of the day we can count only to each other! that is why the killings among armenians everywhere but especially in Leb (kich m@ aveli dakairoun ek aindegh) are beyond any justification! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sassun Posted June 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 (edited) yeghpair Sassun gartzem te skhal paner g@ses gor! ramgavarner@ shad skhalner @ratz en paits azg@ yerpeg chen tzakhatz! the thing that u r describing that occurred during the elections is not azg@ tzakhel, it is a political game! but becuase i'm not familiar with the details i'll not comment on it! Խոսքս ազգի մասին չէր որովհետեւ ազգը շատ մեծ ծաւալ ունի եւ Լիբանանի քաղաքական հարցերը մեծ ազդեցութիւն չունին ընդհանուր հայութեան համար աշխարհի չորս կողմը: Բայց Ռամկավարներուն վարուելակերպը պատճառ դարձած է որ Լիբանանահայերուն մեծամասնութիւնը տուժէ: Ես երբ կը քուէարկեմ որեւէ կողմի մը շատ բնական է որ իմ ժողովուրդիս դէմ աշխատողին պիտի չի տամ ձայնս: Ռամկաւարները կը սպասէին կոր որ մենք իրենց տանք մեր քուէն բայց Հայութիւնը մերժեց որովհետեւ ծախուած մարդոց չե՛նք քուէարկեր: Մենք թուրք չենք ոչ ալ արաբ եւ պատիւի տէր ազգ ենք: Այդ մէկը լաւ գիտցիր: Այո՛ Ռամկաւարները ծախուած են Հարիրի ընտանիքին եւ անոնց հետեւորդներուն: Ծուր նստինք շիտակ խոսինք: Մարդիք սխալական են եւ եթէ Դաշնակցութիւնը սխալներ գործած է (միայն ինծի ըսէ թէ ի՞նչ սխալ գործած է որպէսզի գիտնամ ինչի մասին կը խոսիս կոր) այդ չի նշանակեր որ վատ է եւ դաւաճան: Բայց Ռամկավարներուն ըրածը սխալ չի կոչուիր այլ դաւաճանութիւն: Եթէ կը հաճիս կարդայ իրենց բոլոր խոսածները եւ ըրածները Լիբանանի մէջ եւ ինչպէս ընտրութիւններու ժամանակ կարք մը արաբներ Ռամկավար «հայ»երէն աւելի հարգանքով վարուեցան մեզի հետ: Ի միջի այլոց ես Ռամկավար դպրոց հաճախած եմ մոտաւորապէս երեք տարի: Վերջին տարիս՝ տասներկրորդ դասարանին շաբաթ օրերը թուաբանութեան աւելորդ պահեր ալ կ'ընէինք որպէսզի հասնինք բոլոր curriculum@ վերջացնել եւ շաբաթ օրերը արանց տարազի կ'երթայինք դպրոց: Օր մը Հ.Մ.Ը.Մ ի տարազով գացեր էի դպրոց եւ տնօրէնը ինծի տեսաւ դպրոցի մուտքին եւ չի ձգեց որ դպրոց մտնեմ: Ըսաւ՝ տուն քնայ եւ փոխէ այդ հագուածդ մենք հոս Դաշնակցական չենք: Անշուշտ ասոր հիման վրայ չէ որ Ռամկավարներուն դէմ «լարուած» եմ: Ռամկավարները պէտք է շատ լաւ գիտնան թէ ինչու հայ ժողովուրդը կը մերժէ իրենց հայատեաց վարուելակերպը: Շատ պարզ է: Մէկ հատ կարդայ այս վերջին նախադասութիւնը եւ արդէն պատասխանը կը տեսնես: Ինծի բարեգործական մարեգործականի մասին մի խոսիր: Բարեգործութիւն թող ընեն եւ վա՛զ անցնին իրենց աթոռէն: Edited June 7, 2007 by Sassun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahan Araradian Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 I can't believe you guys really think Hezbollah is stronger than the IDF... To note, Israel can basically take over every single Middle Eastern country today. They didn't have the balls to send their troops into South Lebanon; none of them even got out of their Merkava fortresses whose armor can now be pierced by Hezbollah's anti-tank missile. Invade it and Zionise it. LOL. Is that why there are over 1 billion Muslims in the world and only about 40 million Zionists? Muslims even converted as far away a nation as Indonesia to Islam! Indonesia alone has nearly 3x the population of all of the Zionists in the worl. Lebanon or Hezbollah is nothing compared to Israel. Life is about քէֆ, living life, and letting others live, too. It's not about having the most powerful army and using it to destroy all of your neighbors. ---> That's Zionism in a nut shell: live and kill everyone else. If Hezbollah ever attacks Israel again, Lebanon is going to have to welcome NATO forces sooner or later. I'm not saying that what Israel is doing is fair, but I'm trying to get a sense of logic out of your minds. Israel is backed most probably from the strongest army in the world, which is the Americans and they are also backed by NATO forces. What is Hezbollah backed with? Syria and Iran? And you guys basically think Iran and Syria can do alot for Hezbollah? Come on guys, they only thing they can give to Hezbollah is Katyusha Rockets. Hezbollah always upgrades to the latest weaponry. They've got their anti-tank system down, they've got remote-controlled aircraft, and will soon have surface-to-air missiles, REST ASSURED. If there's anyone who can defend south Lebanon, it's Hezbollah's military wing. What NATO forces? Hezbollah will defend its own. It does not need to rely on an "benevolent friends" which don't exist in life -- only ephemeral allies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahan Araradian Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 Hezb Allah didn't win anything. They use civilians as their shields and hide among innocent people. Then when an army goes after them, they bitch and cry about how Israel is killing civilians. Actually it's great to see Israel use restraint here because they certainly can totally LEVEL lebanon, Iraq, and Syra, if they wanted. LOL. You have no idea who a Hezbollah fighter looks like. Have you personally met one? You are simply parroting the Zionist propaganda that you have heard from the Zionist and member of AIPAC Wolf Blitzer on CNN. If they "leveled" any of those countries, Israel would be annihilated within 7 days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahan Araradian Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 You think it's that easy, Hezbollah is hiding behind families. In Mosques, in Hospitals, in Child Centers, etc. Blame Hezbollah for the civilian casualties. Turn off that Zionist CNN and start watching some alternative media like Al Jazeera. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahan Araradian Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 Search in Google, Hezbollah hiding behind Families. You'll see a bunch of information. Do you SERIOUSLY believe everything you read? Do you know what WARTIME PROPAGANDA means? In life, do you listen to people who talk the loudest? Or the ones who speak with the most "confidence"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 (edited) Do you SERIOUSLY believe everything you read? Do you know what WARTIME PROPAGANDA means? In life, do you listen to people who talk the loudest? Or the ones who speak with the most "confidence"? Only turks do that. Remember when that misogynic, ambi-sexual, misanthropic kakaturk escaped disguised in a woman’s charshaf?? http://www.setimes.com/cocoon/setimes/xhtm...2/20/feature-01 “Based on a witness account, a passage in Calislar's book described an event in the couple's short-lived marriage. Facing an assassination attempt, Ataturk allegedly fled the presidential palace wearing a chador to disguise himself as a woman” Edited June 7, 2007 by Arpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sassun Posted June 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 will soon have surface-to-air missiles, REST ASSURED. I assure you, my (very informed) sources tell me that this is already the case. Army ? Check. Navy? Check. Air force? Check. Israel --> <-- Hezb Allah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 Israel --> <-- Hezb Allah And then: Lebanon --> http://www.actionconcept.com/ubb/graemlins/sex.gif <--- Hezb Allah + Israel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sassun Posted June 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 (edited) Btw , anyone heard of General Karamanoogian ? He was Armenian of Syrian citizenship and was in the army , in 1967 war , he was on the Golan heights front , and he used to put his index finger in front of his eyes and aim at the israelis below the golan heights in israel proper , and then give the coordinates to the artillery so they will fire , and the targets were pinpoint accurate. General Karamanoogian@ golan-i mech yeghadz aden@ hyoosisayin hryasdani mech esh nooynisg cher grnar sharjil . hryanere klookhe oozer en General Karamanoogian-in. Yev 1973-in, Sooryo SAM-er@ ashkhadtsenoghnere polor@ Hye eyin yev miyain Damascus-i vra 70 had hryagan phantom otanav zarger en. Edited June 7, 2007 by Sassun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sassun Posted June 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 Another explosion in Lebanon btw.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 Maybe thats the whole issue. Lebanon is an artificial creation and thats why everyone is puting internal issues before Israel. As if Israel isn't... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sassun Posted June 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 And then: Lebanon --> http://www.actionconcept.com/ubb/graemlins/sex.gif <--- Hezb Allah + Israel Inchkidnam... temkin ardahaydootyoone sgizpe dkhoor e hedo oorakh g@lla gor... adiga g@ nshanage te lav pan m@n e? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sassun Posted June 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 (edited) As if Israel isn't... Մի քանի տարի սպասէ՝ Հրեաները իրարու միս պիտի սկսին ուտել: Արդեն սկսեր են: Լաւ է, թող շարունակեն: Աւելին կ'արժեն: Մէկ Քասսամ կամ Քադյուշա հրթիռ զարնելու համար գիտե՞ս որչափ դրամ պէտք է ծախսեն: Նախ եւ առաջ 2-3 billion dollar շինելու համար defense system եւ անկէ վերջ ամէն մէկ հրթիռին գինը հարիւր հազար տոլար է: Դիմացը՝ մի քանի տոլարնոց Քասսամ կամ Քադյուշա: Կարծեմ մենք ենք բուն հրեաները՝ աժանճի ենք: Մի մոռնար որ ասչափ ծախսէն վերջ շատ հաւանական է որ չաշխատի այս systemը եւ չի կրնայ զարնել Քասսամ եւ Քադյուշա: Կարծեմ թէ բոլորս տեսանք թէ Patriot հրթիռները քանի հատ Քադյուշա զարկին Հայֆայի մէջ: Edited June 7, 2007 by Sassun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sassun Posted June 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 LOL. You have no idea who a Hezbollah fighter looks like. Have you personally met one? You are simply parroting the Zionist propaganda that you have heard from the Zionist and member of AIPAC Wolf Blitzer on CNN. If they "leveled" any of those countries, Israel would be annihilated within 7 days. I have met some. HezbAllah fighters were even cooking their own food in the summer war. They told me they cook better than their wives now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmoPhil Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 They didn't have the balls to send their troops into South Lebanon; none of them even got out of their Merkava fortresses whose armor can now be pierced by Hezbollah's anti-tank missile. LOL. Is that why there are over 1 billion Muslims in the world and only about 40 million Zionists? Muslims even converted as far away a nation as Indonesia to Islam! Indonesia alone has nearly 3x the population of all of the Zionists in the worl. Life is about քէֆ, living life, and letting others live, too. It's not about having the most powerful army and using it to destroy all of your neighbors. ---> That's Zionism in a nut shell: live and kill everyone else. Hezbollah always upgrades to the latest weaponry. They've got their anti-tank system down, they've got remote-controlled aircraft, and will soon have surface-to-air missiles, REST ASSURED. If there's anyone who can defend south Lebanon, it's Hezbollah's military wing. What NATO forces? Hezbollah will defend its own. It does not need to rely on an "benevolent friends" which don't exist in life -- only ephemeral allies. Wow Shahan, you seriously believe Hezbollah can defeat Israel if it entered Lebanon again.. How many times am I going to have to say Israel is backed by Turkey and America? None of you come and tell me that Turkey has a crappy army. All of you are blind if you ever do. Indonesia never had the chance to chose it's religion. They were invaded by the Army of Islam. So your fact on 1 billion Muslim all over the world is obsolete. If we had a Jewish National Socialist political party in Israel Today, all of the Muslims would be dead. Shahan, can you find me any references on the Hezbollah Military Upgrade? I would love to read it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sassun Posted June 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 Wow Shahan, you seriously believe Hezbollah can defeat Israel if it entered Lebanon again.. How many times am I going to have to say Israel is backed by Turkey and America? And Azerbaijan was backed by Turkey , America , and Israel. What is your point ????? Those who are fighting for their land, will not hesitate to shed their blood for it. If you cannot see the similarity between the Turk-Azeris and the Israelis , then I feel sorry for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annannimusss Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 Armophil, I did not start this Tashnag Ramgavar thing, he did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmoPhil Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 (edited) And Azerbaijan was backed by Turkey , America , and Israel. What is your point ????? Those who are fighting for their land, will not hesitate to shed their blood for it. If you cannot see the similarity between the Turk-Azeris and the Israelis , then I feel sorry for you. Should I note, Turkey, Israel and America were backing Azerbaijan with MEDICAL aid. The only Military aid they had was with the Afghan Mujahideens, Chechen Rebels and some of the CIS mercenaries. Hence, IMO, all of the Muslim Lebanese in Lebanon are Palestinians. At place of "fighting" for Lebanon, they should fight for Palestine. Edited June 7, 2007 by ArmoPhil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sassun Posted June 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 Armophil, I did not start this Tashnag Ramgavar thing, he did. Are you sure ? Hit-and-run. Typical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sassun Posted June 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 Should I note, Turkey, Israel and America were backing Azerbaijan with MEDICAL aid. The only Military aid they had was with the Afghan Mujahideens, Chechen Rebels and some of the CIS mercenaries. IMO, all of the Muslim Lebanese in Lebanon are Palestinians. Refugees from 1945. Sorry I forgot also Soviet aid. Operation Ring ring a bell ? :angry: Քնայ Արցախի պատերազմի մասին կարդայ քիչ մը վերջը եկուր եւ փիլիսոփայէ այս նիւթին շուրջ: Եւ եթէ չես գիտեր՝ քոնէ գիտոսիկութիւն մի ըներ: Դաշնակցականի բնաւ վայել չէ որ պատմութիւնը չի գիտնայ՝ առնուազն Արցախի պատմութիւնը: Ես որ տարիներէ ի վեր չեմ կարդացած հայոց պատմութիւն քեզմէ լաւ գիտեմ այս բոլորին մասին: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annannimusss Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 (edited) Dajeek, you didn't know that the Kataeb and the Tashnags were once friends? You seem to be getting upset that what you want is not going to happen, I can see that all you are doing is crying and complaining,its ok, I think it is time for you to take out your rug and start praying,because there is no chance that the democratically elected government is going anywhere any time soon. I wonder what you think about the assasination of Pierre Amine Gemayel? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Amine_Gemayel Edited June 7, 2007 by SakoPasha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmoPhil Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 Sorry I forgot also Soviet aid. Operation Ring ring a bell ? :angry: Քնայ Արցախի պատերազմի մասին կարդայ քիչ մը վերջը եկուր եւ փիլիսոփայէ այս նիւթին շուրջ: Եւ եթէ չես գիտեր՝ քոնէ գիտոսիկութիւն մի ըներ: Դաշնակցականի բնաւ վայել չէ որ պատմութիւնը չի գիտնայ՝ առնուազն Արցախի պատմութիւնը: Ես որ տարիներէ ի վեր չեմ կարդացած հայոց պատմութիւն քեզմէ լաւ գիտեմ այս բոլորին մասին: Sassun, inchou gou kas indzi gsgesis essel pam'uh chem kider Artsakhin Massin? Essadzner'us jishd en. Turker'uh chouzetsin mdnal mer kordsin mech'uh. Tou, inkzinket inchi vera ge himnes gor? I barely talked about Artsakh and you say you know more than me. You should first analyze what I say, then say such things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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