The Situation In Lebanon

[Sassun]

Dajeek, you didn't know that the Kataeb and the Tashnags were once friends?

 

You seem to be getting upset that what you want is not going to happen, I can see that all you are doing is crying and complaining,its ok, I think it is time for you to take out your rug and start praying,because there is no chance that the democratically elected government is going anywhere any time soon.

 

I wonder what you think about the assasination of Pierre Amine Gemayel?

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Amine_Gemayel

Եթէ տաճիկ մը կայ ան ալ դուն ես: Վարուելակերպդ թրքավայել է: Ո՞ւր են փաստերը: Կ'ուզեմ տեսնել թէ ուր գրուած է այդպիսի բան: Որովհետեւ այդպիսի բան գոյութիւն չէ ունեցած: Դաշնակցութիւնը միշտ Հայկական ցանկով մասնակցած է ընտրութիւններու:

 

Փիէր Ժըմայէլին սպաննութիւնը ես աչքովս տեսայ: Բայց չէի գիտեր թէ ով էր ինքնաշարժին մէչի անձը: Մի քանի վարկեան վերջ քիչ մը մոտեցայ եւ տեսայ որ ինքն է:

 

Ամէնայն դէպս՝ արժանի էր: Իր մէծհօր եւ հօրեղբոր գործած ոճիռները անպատիժ պիտի չմնային:

Հայու արիւն խմող անձերը եւ ընտանիքները անպատիժ չեն մնար: Անոնց պատիժը մահն է՝ ինչպէս Պաշիրը նոյնպէս ալ Փիէրը: Եւ տարօսը յաջորդին:

[ArmoPhil]

Dajeek, you didn't know that the Kataeb and the Tashnags were once friends?

 

You seem to be getting upset that what you want is not going to happen, I can see that all you are doing is crying and complaining,its ok, I think it is time for you to take out your rug and start praying,because there is no chance that the democratically elected government is going anywhere any time soon.

 

I wonder what you think about the assasination of Pierre Amine Gemayel?

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Amine_Gemayel

Sako, we don't need a gousaktoutioun fight. Whatever happened back then happened. It's time to reunite. Stop the hate. Same goes to Sassun.

Edited June 7, 2007 by ArmoPhil

[annannimusss]

I know, but I get pissed off when poeple like him talk shit, I will drop this part of the conversation.

[annannimusss]

Sorry Dajeek, I wont be able to read Armenian for another 2 1/2 years.

[Sassun]

Sassun, inchou gou kas indzi gsgesis essel pam'uh chem kider Artsakhin Massin? Essadzner'us jishd en. Turker'uh chouzetsin mdnal mer kordsin mech'uh. Tou, inkzinket inchi vera ge himnes gor? I barely talked about Artsakh and you say you know more than me. You should first analyze what I say, then say such things.

Խոսքս մտնելու կամ չի մտնելու մասին չէր: Խոսքս ռազմական օգնութեան մասին էր: Թուրքերը ինչպէս նաեւ հրեաները եւ Ռուսերն ու Ամէրիկացիները Ազրպէճանի ուղղակի եւ անուղղակի կերպով օգնութիւն հայթայթեցին: Այս մէկը ընդունուած բան է: Ի՞նչ կ'ուզես կոր որ ըսեմ այսինքն: Ինծի կրնա՞ս ըսել թէ ինչո՞ւ եւ ինչպէ՞ս մենք յաղթական դուրս ելանք Արցախի ազատագրութեան պայքարէն:

[Sassun]

Sorry Dajeek, I wont be able to read Armenian for another 2 1/2 years.

This shows how ridiculous your position is. You call ME Dajig and YOU do not know how to read Armenian... Brilliant.

[ArmoPhil]

Խոսքս մտնելու կամ չի մտնելու մասին չէր: Խոսքս ռազմական օգնութեան մասին էր: Թուրքերը ինչպէս նաեւ հրեաները եւ Ռուսերն ու Ամէրիկացիները Ազրպէճանի ուղղակի եւ անուղղակի կերպով օգնութիւն հայթայթեցին: Այս մէկը ընդունուած բան է: Ի՞նչ կ'ուզես կոր որ ըսեմ այսինքն: Ինծի կրնա՞ս ըսել թէ ինչո՞ւ եւ ինչպէ՞ս մենք յաղթական դուրս ելանք Արցախի ազատագրութեան պայքարէն:

We won because we had dedication and heart for our lands. Ayo Tourker'uh oknetsin Azerineroun, payce irentz banak'ov cherin. Yes guesem gor, Israeliner'uh irentz gorm'uh Turkeroun banak'uh yev Amerigatsineroun ounin. Indzi grnas essel inch bes HEZBOLLAH'n bidi haghte yep vor ourish baderazme ella?

Edited June 7, 2007 by ArmoPhil

[Sassun]

We won because we had dedication and heart for our lands. Ayo Tourker'uh oknetsin Azerineroun, payce irentz banak'ov cherin. Yes guesem gor, Israeliner'uh Turkeroun yev Amerigatsineroun oknoutioun'uh ounin. Indzi grnas essel inch bes HEZBOLLAH'n bidi kharkhtel yep vor ourish baderazme ella?

Առաջին նախադասութիւնդ ճիշդ պատասխանն էր: Ապրիս:

Թուրքերը եւ հրեաները օգնեցին ազերիներուն իսկ ամերիկացիները եւ թուրքերը՝ հրեաներուն: Ամերիկացիները ամերիկեան բանակ չիչեցուցին հարաւային Լիբանան: Ես կ'ըսեմ կոր՝ ազերիները հրեաներուն եւ թուրքերուն օգնութիւնը ունին եւ առաւել եւս՝ oil : Եթէ այդ բոլորը նկատի ունենալով չի կրցան կրուիլ եւ կորսնցուցին ոչ միայն Արցախը այլ նաեւ շուրջի հողերը, այդ կը նշանակէ թէ խնդիրը միայն զէնքի խնդիր չէ:

 

"It's not the size of the dog in the fight , it's the size of the fight in the dog."

Edited June 7, 2007 by Sassun

[annannimusss]

When my famlily first came here we did not have enough money to send us kids to Armenian school.They even made a pay for one kid the

other goes free deal for my brother and sister and we still were not able to afford to send us kids to Armenian school.

 

So don't talk shit about how I can't read Armenian yet, when I go to Fresno State in two and a half years after my community college is over, I will be able to read Armenian and write it in 1 Semester.

Edited June 7, 2007 by SakoPasha

[Sassun]

When my famlily first came here we did not have enough money to send us kids to Armenian school.They even made a pay for one kid the

other goes free deal for my brother and sister and we still were not able to afford to send us kids to Armenian school.

 

So don't talk shit about how I can't read Armenian yet, when I go to Fresno State in two and a half years after my community college is over, I will be able to read Armenian and write it in 1 Semester.

Calm down Sako. I am not making fun of you. But at least you should not make fun of others or call them names if they know Armenian better than you do, whatever your or his circumstances are.

[ArmoPhil]

Calm down Sako. I am not making fun of you. But at least you should not make fun of others or call them names if they know Armenian better than you do, whatever your or his circumstances are.

Anyway, Sassun, you sound more of a Christian than a Muslim. That's how, in some sort, I am accepting you as an Armenian. I consider you being a Christian than being a Muslim.

Edited June 8, 2007 by ArmoPhil

[AK-47]

There was not only medical aid to Azerbaijan but military, logistics and moral aid. Turkish military advisors and generals were present in Azerhayvan. So were Israeli. Afghans sent a few thousand volunteers and the Chechens, a battalion led by Basayev which included al-Khattab. Le'ts not forget aid from Azarbaijan (Iranian Azerbaijan), the famous Russian and Ukrainian mercenary pilots, Turkish blockade, initial Soviet military operations (Operation:Ring) and Mother Nature, who decided an earthquake in 1988 in Armenia was the right thing to do. The odds were stacked against us and we still won.

 

A note about Basayev in regards to all this Dashnak-Ramgavar debate - Basayev noted in his memoir that in his entire militant career, his batallion had only lost one battle and that was when they faced the Dashnak batallion during the Artsakh war in Shushi

 

EDITED: Oh yeah, and I also forgot the Turkish PMs threaten to invade; he died 3 days later LOL. But point is, we even had psychological warfare used against us by foreigners of the Artsakh war.

Edited June 8, 2007 by AK-47

[ArmoPhil]

There was not only medical aid to Azerbaijan but military, logistics and moral aid. Turkish military advisors and generals were present in Azerhayvan. So were Israeli. Afghans sent a few thousand volunteers and the Chechens, a battalion led by Basayev which included al-Khattab. Le'ts not forget aid from Azarbaijan (Iranian Azerbaijan), the famous Russian and Ukrainian mercenary pilots, Turkish blockade, initial Soviet military operations (Operation:Ring) and Mother Nature, who decided an earthquake in 1988 in Armenia was the right thing to do. The odds were stacked against us and we still won.

 

A note about Basayev in regards to all this Dashnak-Ramgavar debate - Basayev noted in his memoir that in his entire militant career, his batallion had only lost one battle and that was when they faced the Dashnak batallion during the Artsakh war in Shushi

 

Oh yeah, and I also forgot the Turkish PMs threat to throw 3 nukes at Armenia and threaten to invade; he resigned 3 days later LOL. But point is, we even had psychological warfare used against us by foreigners of the Artsakh war.

They didn't threat to throw Nuclear Bombs. It was that Grey Wolves member that did so. Turgut Ozal was the one that had a bataillon right beside the Armenian border ready to invade Armenia. Once he threatened Armenia, he died a few days later. What a coincidence eh?

[Dave]

Basically, the Armenian situation was comparable to that of Hezbollah.

Both won regardless of all predictions.

[Dave]

Basically, the Armenian situation was comparable to that of Hezbollah.

Both of them successfully defended their areas regardless of all predictions.

Edited June 8, 2007 by Dave

[AK-47]

They didn't threat to throw Nuclear Bombs. It was that Grey Wolves member that did so. Turgut Ozal was the one that had a bataillon right beside the Armenian border ready to invade Armenia. Once he threatened Armenia, he died a few days later. What a coincidence eh?

Yeah my bad, I mixed it up.

[AK-47]

Anyway, returning to the topic of the "Situation in Lebanon", recently, the USA has sent military aid to the Lebanese army. I've heard reports that go as far as sayng that it will send M1 Abrams tanks to the Lebanese army. I ask myself, why does the Lebanese army need all that crap to wipe out 200 (of which 60 have been killed) so-called "Fatah al-Islams"?

 

The answer has nothing to do with aiding Lebanon militarily. It is to encourage the creation of more and more "Fatah al-Islam"s in Lebanon, so they give a green light for discouraged and enraged youth to form more and more Al-Qaeda copy groups. American military aid will pump up Islamists and people generally disliking the USA to take up arms and fight the newly "American puppet and militarily aided" Lebanese army. It will be like fighting the American army (creating a proxy war between so-called "Al-Qaeda" and the USA). The current Lebanese government (Siniora and co.) are already all American and Zionist spies... this American aid will only make people hate the USA and this puppet government even more and will lead to more and more appearances of Al-Qaedas.

 

My friends, this is only the beginning. If all this does not stop soon, not only will this camp be under siege but all the other camps and Lebanon will once again be in turmoil. The Zionist goal is simple; divide and conquer (Julius Caesar). Expect something similar to appear next summer too, and the summer after that (summer is the peak of Lebanese tourism, a vital economic income for the country).

[Dave]

The Zionist goal is simple; divide and conquer (Julius Caesar).

 

Yeah, Hryanere ouzadznin chi gertsan kaletsnel antsyal amar, ouremn hima kich me aveli "aghdod" ge khaghan gor.

[ArmoPhil]

Yeah, Hryanere ouzadznin chi gertsan kaletsnel antsyal amar, ouremn hima kich me aveli "aghdod" ge khaghan gor.

Aghdod elayin ne, lipanan'uh aysor ter baderazmi mech gelar.. Saudi ner'uh khosetsan yev essin hryaner'uh tours chelen'eh, bidi Lipanan mdnan. Amerigatsiner'uh gue vaghnan Saudineren,(Oil), ador hamar essin hryaneroun, menk arants kidnalov(Public), vor tours yellen Lipananen. Im kidnaloves, adank gue gardzem gor.

Edited June 8, 2007 by ArmoPhil

[ArmoPhil]

Anyway, returning to the topic of the "Situation in Lebanon", recently, the USA has sent military aid to the Lebanese army. I've heard reports that go as far as sayng that it will send M1 Abrams tanks to the Lebanese army. I ask myself, why does the Lebanese army need all that crap to wipe out 200 (of which 60 have been killed) so-called "Fatah al-Islams"?

 

The answer has nothing to do with aiding Lebanon militarily. It is to encourage the creation of more and more "Fatah al-Islam"s in Lebanon, so they give a green light for discouraged and enraged youth to form more and more Al-Qaeda copy groups. American military aid will pump up Islamists and people generally disliking the USA to take up arms and fight the newly "American puppet and militarily aided" Lebanese army. It will be like fighting the American army (creating a proxy war between so-called "Al-Qaeda" and the USA). The current Lebanese government (Siniora and co.) are already all American and Zionist spies... this American aid will only make people hate the USA and this puppet government even more and will lead to more and more appearances of Al-Qaedas.

 

My friends, this is only the beginning. If all this does not stop soon, not only will this camp be under siege but all the other camps and Lebanon will once again be in turmoil. The Zionist goal is simple; divide and conquer (Julius Caesar). Expect something similar to appear next summer too, and the summer after that (summer is the peak of Lebanese tourism, a vital economic income for the country).

Can I tell you, not to enrage anyone, America can basically wipe off the whole Muslim population of the world in 1 week. It's all world conspiracy. People are afraid to know the truth.

[AK-47]

Aghdod elayin ne, lipanan'uh aysor ter baderazmi mech gelar.

Aysor, Lipananuh baderazmi metch eh man...it's the topic! Lipananuh 4-5 baderazm antsoutser eh (all on its soil) in the last 50 years.

[ArmoPhil]

Aysor, Lipananuh baderazmi metch eh man...it's the topic! Lipananuh 4-5 baderazm antsoutser eh (all on its soil) in the last 50 years.

Ays Palestiniatsineround yeresen e, kounerem Palestineroun Lipanani mech. Togh yertan yev Palestinin hamar togh grvin, inch kords ounin Lipananin mech'uh?

[AK-47]

Ays Palestiniatsineround yeresen e, kounerem Palestineroun Lipanani mech. Togh yertan yev Palestinin hamar togh grvin, inch kords ounin Lipananin mech'uh?

Ov ghrgets ays Baghestintsineroun Lipanan? Zionist shooneh ghrgets irents Lipanan and then they chased them in the country in 1982 to present (if you count Shebaa). It's not really the Palestinians' fault, Hryan siktir erav irents tebi Lipanan.

[Shahan Araradian]

We won because we had dedication and heart for our lands. Ayo Tourker'uh oknetsin Azerineroun, payce irentz banak'ov cherin. Yes guesem gor, Israeliner'uh irentz gorm'uh Turkeroun banak'uh yev Amerigatsineroun ounin. Indzi grnas essel inch bes HEZBOLLAH'n bidi haghte yep vor ourish baderazme ella?

Բարեկամ: Կապ չ'ունի ով որուն կողմն է: Կռուողներն են կարեւորները: Ամերիկացին կամ Թուրքերը Հրեաներուն համար պիտի չի կռուին պատերազմի դաշտը: Ճիշտ է որ կրնան Ամերիկեան զինամթերք ղրկել հրէական նշաններով ինչպէս Yom Kippur պատերազմը, բայց ի վերչոյ հրեայ զինուորն է որ պիտի կռուի: Եւ եթէ հրեայ զինուորը հաւկիթները չ'ունի Մերքավայ հռասայլէն դուրս քալ ան պիտի եփի Մերքավային մէջ Հեզպալլայի հակահռասայլ հրթիրներով:

 

Մարդ չի կրնար յաղթել այն անձին որ իր հայերենիքին համար, իր տունին համար կը կռուի եւ պատարաստ է պայքարիլ մինչեւ մահ իր ազատութեան համար: ԱՆԿԱՐԵԼԻ Է որ դուն այդ մարդուն յաղթես: Հրեաներու տարիները համրուած են Միչին Արեւելքի մէջ:

 

Այնքան ատէն որ անհատներու եւ կամաւոր բանակներու կրած զենքերը կը զօրանան՝ Իսրայէլի եւ այլ փռնապետներու ճակատագիրը կնգուած է:

Edited June 8, 2007 by Shahan Araradian

[Shahan Araradian]

Ays Palestiniatsineround yeresen e, kounerem Palestineroun Lipanani mech. Togh yertan yev Palestinin hamar togh grvin, inch kords ounin Lipananin mech'uh?

Իսրայէլը իրենց ետ չ'ընդունիր: That was the whole reason for the Lebanese Civil War -- the hundreds of thousands of Palestinians living in exile in Lebanon who were thrown out of Israel and not allowed to return. In Lebanon, they demand rights. But the Lebanese government to this day does not recognize them as citizens, and rightfully so, because it creates an imbalance in political power between Christian and Muslim.