zurderer Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 Hrank Dink was a good man. He followed his way, he criticised Turkey, the Diaspora, France even armenian church. I am realy curious who murdered him, and why he did this.(If He is not fanatic, what the hell of his aim? ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Error 404 Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 Typical turkish way of "solving problems". Now I am more concerned about other Armenians in the country. Astvac hogin lusavori! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellektor Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 amenalav turqi mer@ & manuk@ ! Էս էն սև շնին ասա որ ամեն անգամ պոչս կտրում ա: Եթէ շատ կարևոր ա ինձ քննադատի, կարող ա PM ուղարկի: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armenak Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 Where are the Grey Wolves I wonder...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwig9 Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,245047,00.html Three Arrested in Turkey for Murder of Outspoken Journalist Hrant Dink ISTANBUL, Turkey — Istanbul governor Muammer Guler said three people were arrested in connection with the murder of journalist Hrant Dink earlier on Friday, CNN-Turk television reported. No further information was provided on the arrests. Earlier in the day, two people were arrested, only to be released when officials decided they had no connection to the crime. Dink was one of the most prominent voices of Turkey's Armenian community, and a frequent target of nationalist anger. Dink faced constant threats and legal proceedings as one of the most prominent voices of Turkey's shrinking Armenian community was shot to death Friday at the entrance to his newspaper's offices, police said. Click here for more news from Europe. Dink, a 53-year-old Turkish citizen of Armenian descent, had gone on trial numerous times for speaking out about the mass killings of Armenians by Turks at the beginning of the 20th century. He had also received threats from nationalists, who viewed him as a traitor. Dink, who edited the bilingual Turkish-Armenian newspaper Agos, said in his last column on Jan. 10 that he had become famous as an enemy of Turks and had received no protection from authorities despite his numerous complaints about the threats against him. "My computer's memory is loaded with sentences full of hatred and threats," Dink wrote. "I am just like a pigeon. ... I look around to my left and right, in front and behind me as much as it does. My head is just as active." He ended the column by predicting this would be a difficult year, but he would survive it. "For me, 2007 is likely to be a hard year. The trials will continue, new ones will be started. Who knows what other injustices I will be up against," he wrote. Dink's killing drew condemnation from Europe, Armenia, the United States and numerous media freedom and human rights organizations. Thousands of Turks marched down the street where he died, blocking traffic and carrying posters bearing his photo. In October 2005, Dink was convicted of trying to influence the judiciary after Agos ran stories criticizing a law making it a crime to insult Turkey, the Turkish government or the Turkish national character. He was given a six-month suspended sentence. The conviction was rare even in a country where trials of journalists, academics and writers have become common. Most of the cases, including that of the Nobel Prize-winning novelist Orhan Pamuk, were either dropped on a technicality or led to acquittals. Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan condemned Dink's death as an attack against Turkey's unity and promised to catch those responsible. He said he had appointed top officials from the Justice and Security ministries to investigate the killing. Click here for more news from Europe. "Once again, dark hands have chosen our country and spilled blood in Istanbul to achieve their dark goals," Erdogan said. Dink cried during an interview with The Associated Press last year as he talked about some of his countrymen's hatred for him, saying he could not stay in a country where he was unwanted. "I'm living together with Turks in this country," Dink told the AP. "I don't think I could live with an identity of having insulted them in this country ... if I am unable to come up with a positive result, it will be honorable for me to leave this country." The New York-based Committee to Protect Journalists said 18 Turkish journalists have been killed for their work in the past 18 years. "Like dozens of other Turkish journalists, Dink has faced political persecution for his work and now appears to have paid the ultimate price for it," CPJ Middle East Program Coordinator Joel Campagna said. "Turkish authorities must ensure that this crime, like past ones, does not go unpunished." Two people detained in the killing were later released because they had no relationship to the crime, news reports said. Turkey's relationship with its Armenian community is fraught with tension and painful memories of a brutal past. Much of Turkey's once-sizeable Armenian population was killed or driven out of the country from 1915-1923 in what an increasing number of countries are recognizing as the first genocide of the 20th century. Turkey acknowledges that large numbers of Armenians died but vehemently denies it was genocide, saying the overall figure is inflated and the deaths occurred in the civil unrest during the collapse of the Ottoman Empire. Turkey, which is overwhelmingly Muslim, and Armenia, which claims to be the first country to official adopt Christianity, share a border, but it is closed and the two countries have no formal diplomatic relations. Can Dundar, Dink's friend and fellow journalist, said he wished Dink had left the country as he once promised he would in the face of the threats, protests and legal proceedings against him. "Hrant's body is lying on the ground as if those bullets were fired at Turkey," Dundar told private NTV television. Dink's body was covered with a white sheet in front of the newspaper's entrance. NTV said four empty shell casings were found on the ground and that he was killed by two bullets to the head. Workers at the newspaper, including Dink's brother, who has also been put on trial in Turkey, wept and consoled each other near his body. Fehmi Koru, a columnist at the Yeni Safak newspaper, said Dink's slaying was aimed at destabilizing Turkey. "His loss is the loss of Turkey," Koru said. Dink had complained in a letter that he received no responses even after complaining to authorities about threats of violence made to him, NTV reported. A colleague at Dink's newspaper, Aydin Engin, said Dink had attributed the threats to elements in the "deep state," a Turkish term that implies shadowy, deeply nationalist and powerful elements in the government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 (edited) I can't believe that REUTERS called him a Turkish American instead of Turkish Armenian! (First there's a commercial) http://today.reuters.com/tv/videoChannel.a...88258441e2806b6 I'm sure that people like Kemal Kerincsiz (leader of the Turkish Lawyers' Union that organized all the anti-Armenian things in recent years) is behind this in some ways. http://www.collectifvan.org/images/reports/reportage_24_3.jpg Edited January 19, 2007 by Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellektor Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 I can't believe that REUTERS called him a Turkish American instead of Turkish Armenian! Not only JEUTERS, also the Persian VOA (Voice of Israel) also called him of Turkish origin several times and once American of Turkish origin. In the state of disillusionment that I'm right now, I can't help seeing some Zionist intention in this. Hope I'm wrong but you never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 Video http://www.ibctoday.com/News/ViewNewsItem....deoPanelType=1# Turkish Armenian newspaper editor Hrant Drink was shot dead in broad daylight outside his Istanbul office. The writer and journalist has been a frequent target of nationalist anger since he was convicted of 'insulting Turkishness'. He was prosecuted after speaking out over the mass killing of Armenians by Turks during the First World War. The killing triggered protests at the scene and condemnation from the Turkish Prime Minister. SOUNDBITE: Tayyip Erdogan, Turkish Prime Minister, saying (Turkish): "Unfortunately dark hands have chosen Hrant Dink this time to achieve their criminal purposes. It's significant that this murder happened when the Armenian genocide is top of the agenda in some countries." Turkish broadcaster NTV said Dink was shot three times in the neck. Police are hunting a man aged about 18 or 19. The attack is certain to raise political tensions in Turkey where lawmakers of all parties have been courting the nationalist vote ahead of presidential and parliamentary elections. The country is also seeking membership of the European Union. Paul Chapman, Reuters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Error 404 Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 I can't believe that REUTERS called him a Turkish American instead of Turkish Armenian! (First there's a commercial) http://today.reuters.com/tv/videoChannel.a...88258441e2806b6 I'm sure that people like Kemal Kerincsiz (leader of the Turkish Lawyers' Union that organized all the anti-Armenian things in recent years) is behind this in some ways. http://www.collectifvan.org/images/reports/reportage_24_3.jpg Esi marda te mardu tnaza? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 Protest video http://www.ibctoday.com/News/ViewNewsItem....deoPanelType=1# Solidarity Protest Starts Condemning Murder of Hrant Dink in Istanbul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 Hrant Dink - Video http://www.ibctoday.com/News/ViewNewsItem....deoPanelType=1# “Up to now the individual members of the intelligentsia in Turkey speak and write about it all the time. They keep on voicing the reality or at least what is close to the reality. But until now a united statement has not been made. So our aim was to make a united statement and to make it a historical one. Of course, there are some forces that could not tolerate this. However, we are not going to stop, and it must happen. And Armenians should be sure that in Turkey we do everything possible and impossible to prove Turks that we are right, that the reality is not what they say.” These words Hrant said yet in June, 2005, when the Turkish authorities recurrently prohibited holding a conference dedicated to the Armenian Issue in their land. Nobody then believed that that event would take place, nobody, except Hrant. With his hope and hard work, along with some of his friends Dink managed to reach his aim. Already in September, after an ‘additional fuss’, they managed to get the holding of the conference. Hrant Dink “Never overlook the work done by the progressive people of this country. It’s thanks to them that the ideology and psychology of this nation should be changed. This was a step, a huge step; later even better steps will be taken.” This was already the victorious Hrant, who, in spite of the downpour of the threats, he again managed to reach his goal. He treated with irony the crowd of nationalists gathered at the building of the university. He was sure that it could not be other way. Probably he himself already lost the number of the court cases opened against him. He usually did not go to the court. He only seemed very angry and disappointed, when in July, 2006 the Court of Cassation validated the verdict of his six-month conditional imprisonment. He decided to appeal to the European Court of Human Rights. In the reports of all legal and international organizations, while speaking about freedom of speech in Turkey, Hrant Dink’s name was mentioned among the front men. And Hrant did not stop voicing whatever he thought, and unfortunately he paid for it by his own life. Gohar Martirosyan, Gevorg Olkinyan, ‘Yerkirn Aysor’ (The Country Today). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yalpa Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 He was a very decent man. I will miss him very much. I read his newspaper and his column every Friday for past three years, since I arrived in Turkey. My wife cried for hours and we were in that march of a few decent people tonight (although not a bad crowd at all, considering that it formed spontaneously). If I am not mistaken, this was probably the first time since 1915 that slogans in Armenian were heard in this land. Too bad he had to give his life for it. I still cannot believe he is dead. I was somewhere else when I first heard the news. I rushed home right a way to turn on my TV in order to see it with my own eyes, wishing that perhaps he was still alive or in coma, but the bastard had shot him from the head. This is a very sad day, for the Armenian people, for this land and for everyone who loved him. I used to say that there was an Armenian genocide, but I think I will start saying that there still is. It is very likely that the perpetrator will be declared to be either an insane person or some fanatic, but in my opinion it was a very calculated plot by a bunch of Ittihadists. I will not forget him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Error 404 Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 I agree. It is not a work of insane or fanatic. This is political assassination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 US Ambassador Wilson and Undersecretary Burns Comment on Hrant Dink Murder Video http://www.ibctoday.com/News/ViewNewsItem....deoPanelType=1# Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 Nice finds Mosjan http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2007-01/27463619.jpg http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2007-01/27463591.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takoush Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 (edited) This is a very sad news to a one heroic Armenian man who worked hard to respecting his annihilated anscestors and countrymen and their cause to be finally accepted by the world and by Turkey as a Genocide. I am quite sure that this was a plot carried out by the Turkish government. Dink was unafraid to speak up and work for our cause and this was too much to bear for the Turkish backward millet. As Dink spoke on the video; he was first to organize an Armenian writers and intellectuals organization and had them united to form such a valuable organization towards working for the acceptance of the Genocide and in Turkey? This too was much too much to bear for the Turkish millet. A very sad day for us Armenians and for our cause. We should have the world accept the Genocide act in 2007. Starting first off with the U.S.A. Edited January 20, 2007 by Anahid Takouhi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 Although the first line of this article is ok: Hrant Dink became the 1,500,001st victim of the Armenian genocide yesterday. In later parts Fisk is thinking that the murderer might be an Armenian nationalist. Impossible. http://news.independent.co.uk/europe/article2169190.ece Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 Although the first line of this article is ok: Hrant Dink became the 1,500,001st victim of the Armenian genocide yesterday. In later parts Fisk is thinking that the murderer might be an Armenian nationalist. Impossible. http://news.independent.co.uk/europe/article2169190.ece Could have been possible if it was two years ago, but the chronology of the event makes this very unlikely but not impossible. Why would an Armenian assassinate the guy after the recent events? It can not neither be a political assassination, this sort of thing distabilise Turkey. It is a Turk fanatic doing, it could well be the doing of one fanatic, we will possibly have more news about it as it is the best of the Turkish government interest to find the murderer/or murderers and trial him/them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Error 404 Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 Probably armenian nationalists did the genocide and killed 1.5 million armenians... What an idiots! I was driving home from work and listening to pacifica radio. Some guy who pretended to be Hrant's friend with british accent was on the phone and telling that he(Hrant) considered himself a patriot, that's why he stood in turkey after getting so many life threats. Did he really said that? Many news agencies interpret the issue in so many ways. This is telling about whether their cluelesness of the issue or intended disinformation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 He was a very decent man. I will miss him very much. I read his newspaper and his column every Friday for past three years, since I arrived in Turkey. My wife cried for hours and we were in that march of a few decent people tonight (although not a bad crowd at all, considering that it formed spontaneously). If I am not mistaken, this was probably the first time since 1915 that slogans in Armenian were heard in this land. Too bad he had to give his life for it. I still cannot believe he is dead. I was somewhere else when I first heard the news. I rushed home right a way to turn on my TV in order to see it with my own eyes, wishing that perhaps he was still alive or in coma, but the bastard had shot him from the head. This is a very sad day, for the Armenian people, for this land and for everyone who loved him. I used to say that there was an Armenian genocide, but I think I will start saying that there still is. It is very likely that the perpetrator will be declared to be either an insane person or some fanatic, but in my opinion it was a very calculated plot by a bunch of Ittihadists. I will not forget him. Seing it that way, you have a point, it is the best interest of the Turkish government to find one guilty if indeed it is organised. Was there any article he wrote in the last two weeks which could have angered anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 I agree. It is not a work of insane or fanatic. This is political assassination. What I don't get here is that people like Zarakollu or Bertkay are still alive after giving lectures, Akçan even gave a lecture in Turkey. None of those people were shut, would a Turk not be much more angered against a Turk who would talk about the genocide? If this is that organised, would there be not a series of such assassinations? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 Last year, when there he and other supporters of the Armenian cause had all those legal problems, we held a small protest here in the freezing cold in support of Hrant and other defenders of the Armenian cause, but the media kept ignoring it. Now he's everywhere in the media... Is it only after the man dies that they'd talk about him?? Oh well.. At least we can say "we told you so". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 US Ambassador Wilson and Undersecretary Burns Comment on Hrant Dink Murder Video http://www.ibctoday.com/News/ViewNewsItem....deoPanelType=1# Burnns was so insuring and comforting to ergovan as how much important the US alley is insted he should of dimanded personaly from ergovan murderers would be aprahended as soon as possible so coinsidently burrns had a mitting night before the murder with turkish high officials. I sence something is not right and days ahead wold revial the reall perpotrators of this crime. why is kurdistan so much mantioned laitly, who will benefit from this and finaly whats waitingfor us Armenians. these are very important historical times for us, nothing short of all 7 vilayets should be returned to her righfull owners, conpensations have to be made, distroy musaleyum of young turks and ask for forgivnes, then maybe we can finaly live in peace, before that a referandum should be made at UN and offialy call the events of 1915 as Genocide! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 What I don't get here is that people like Zarakollu or Bertkay are still alive after giving lectures, Akçan even gave a lecture in Turkey. None of those people were shut, would a Turk not be much more angered against a Turk who would talk about the genocide? If this is that organised, would there be not a series of such assassinations? This proves how much these fanatics hate Armenians. Some papers are reporting that the killer shouted "I killed the non-Muslim" others are saying that he shouted "I killed the Armenian". I bet he shouted "I killed the gavur (infidel)" but this is used mainly for Armenians and the papers are using instead a politically correct words. Also his assasination would make a bigger impact than killing a Turkish person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 In the wikipedia article it is written that he said "I shot the Infidel" according to witnesses. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hrant_Dink And yea, they've always called us gyavur/kafir (infidel) or raya (flock). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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