Yervant1 Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 Okay sorry but I'm interested in history and because i do not believe in nationalism history I'm not like some of you people falsifying history is wrong and i don't make up stuff and I'm Armenian born in America. Another thing is our army is not so strong and bragging about it is nonsense. Where did all this came from? I did not ask you any of this. So I ask you again, Why don't you tell us, you seem to know everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HyeFedayis Posted January 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 Where did all this came from? I did not ask you any of this. So I ask you again, Why don't you tell us, you seem to know everything. Well I'm referring to the other post also and you could have state you were being sarcastic or what ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 Well I'm referring to the other post also and you could have state you were being sarcastic or what ever. If you are American born how come your English is so bad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HyeFedayis Posted January 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 If you are American born how come your English is so bad? Okay buddy this is on the computer first of all another thing is you don't even know if i moved back to armenia after i was born or another country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 Okay buddy this is on the computer first of all another thing is you don't even know if i moved back to armenia after i was born or another country. Which is it? Armenia or another country? Or better not born in America. Once you start lying there is no end to it. Believe me you will hang yourself with your lies. On another post you said you wanted to see Armenia, it sounded for the very first time. Yes they are i love Armenia can't wait to go there hopefully summer! :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HyeFedayis Posted January 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 Which is it? Armenia or another country? Or better not born in America. Once you start lying there is no end to it. Believe me you will hang yourself with your lies. On another post you said you wanted to see Armenia, it sounded for the very first time. I said i was born in America and i said "you don't even know if i moved back to armenia after i was born or another country." i never said i did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Error 404 Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 Okay sorry but I'm interested in history and because i do not believe in nationalism history I'm not like some of you people falsifying history is wrong and i don't make up stuff and I'm Armenian born in America. Another thing is our army is not so strong and bragging about it is nonsense. HyeFedayis qaq es kerel eshi voric tshashi gtalov. Did you understand what I just said? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HyeFedayis Posted January 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 (edited) HyeFedayis qaq es kerel eshi voric tshashi gtalov. Did you understand what I just said? I did not understand the first word but here.... gtalov = fork voric = butt tshashi = kick? not quite. Edited January 8, 2007 by HyeFedayis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 I said i was born in America and i said "you don't even know if i moved back to armenia after i was born or another country." i never said i did. How old are you? 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HyeFedayis Posted January 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 How old are you? 12 Nope... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 I did not understand the first word but here.... gtalov = fork voric = butt tshashi = kick? not quite. Why must I be the translator? The part you did not understand is- "eat kaka". Tshashi qtalov means "jashi dkalov" , tabelspoon, not "fork"** as opposed to "theyi dkal/ teaspoon". ** The word for "fork" is "pataragagh/պատարագաղ" i.e morcel picker/gleaner. And, if your command of the Armenian language is reflected here... I have little more to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HyeFedayis Posted January 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 Why must I be the translator? The part you did not understand is- "eat kaka". Tshashi qtalov means "jashi dkalov" , tabelspoon, not "fork"** as opposed to "theyi dkal/ teaspoon". ** The word for "fork" is "pataragagh/պատարագաղ" i.e morcel picker/gleaner. And, if your command of the Armenian language is reflected here... I have little more to say. Okay well they sound similar to other words. Voric = butt thushi = kick etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 Nope... Ok Ok are you 10? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 Okay well they sound similar to other words. Voric = butt thushi = kick etc Okay! Then if you don't know "kak" about the Arnenian language, stop hiding behind such nicknames like HyeFedayis or HyeKakayis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HyeFedayis Posted January 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 (edited) Okay! Then if you don't know "kak" about the Arnenian language, stop hiding behind such nicknames like HyeFedayis or HyeKakayis. There are many different dialects of the Armenian language and why in the world can't i use hyefedayis? don't tell me "kak" like that. Edited January 8, 2007 by HyeFedayis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Error 404 Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 LOLOL Arpa! well what the hell is going on ? What's wrong with turks trying to sabotage here in an undercover mission? They have already sabotaged youtube.com Try to type armenia in a search bar and you will find the same propaganda video like 50 times in multiple pages. I took my time yesterday and marked them all as poor and flaged them as "hate speech" Looks like they have started mass action of misleading internet propaganda. Although it doesn't wonder me anymore... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellektor Posted January 9, 2007 Report Share Posted January 9, 2007 Why in the world would you want Cilica we only had that for barely 500 years and that was way back. BARELY 500 YEARS? Turkey and fake "Azerbaijan" have treacherously and in an unmanly fashion usurped Armenia less than a century ago and they don't even want to let us have Artsakh back. During the 3 to 4 centuries of Cilician kingdom (Armenians had lived there for more than 2000 years) the country knew an unprecedented progress. The Turks have turned occupied Armenia into a pile of rubble and they do not deserve a single square nanometer of the land they desecrate under their filthy, cloven hoofs. Example: I build a home and live barely a year in it. A bunch of savage murderers break into my home, rape and slauhgter some members of my family and throw the rest out. The leftovers of that scum occupy my home for generations. Some of their offspring have also genes of some of the members of my family. Now tell me, under laws in any civilized society in the entire universe, will the bloodthirsty squatters ever become the rightful owners of my home? And who are the turks in our forum? Some of them is one poster who farts under different nicknames. I only want Mount Ararat, kars, ani and lake van and i will be satisfied the rest are not important and of course karabakh. That's because you are not an Armenian but someone with multiple personalities posting under different nicks on this forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harut Posted January 9, 2007 Report Share Posted January 9, 2007 merrnem yes dzer havesin... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zartonk Posted January 9, 2007 Report Share Posted January 9, 2007 merrnem yes dzer havesin... Christ Harut, LMAO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zurderer Posted January 9, 2007 Report Share Posted January 9, 2007 what type of self-respecting Turk is ready for giving karabag to armenians.(Not even mentioning, van, kars, ext.. You are some mind problems guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSergiu Posted January 9, 2007 Report Share Posted January 9, 2007 Dear Sergiu, BUN VENIT**, Welcome, Bari Ekar. Dear Arpa, Shenorhagal em, thank you, mulţumesc! I have browsed this forum to gain a better understanding on certain subjects and found out that, at least at the linguistical level you are a force to be reckoned with. As such, you know the meaning of greeting someone in their own language, showing great wisdom in the process. I will try to partially respond to some of your questions below. Romanian history. There is a plethora of information regarding Vlad the Impaler, but there are also alot of lies about him. If you really want I can share to you some of the particularities of his battles aginst turks. How he slaughtered them like the mindless cattle they are. We had many military confrontations with turks, in which we were always in numerical inferiority but managed to win most of the time. We weren't called "The gates of Christianity" for nothing. But even as so, no one really wanted us to became to powerful so we could better fight the turkic invader. Instead, other nations tried to profit from our wars with the turks so that they could occupy our lands instead. Does this seems familiar? We Romanians are latins and are direct descendant of the latinized daco-getians which were the most important branch of the larger Thracian group inhabiting the Balkans north of Greece two millenia ago. We are proud of beeing the only Orthodox Latin nation in the world. Momentarily, at least, I cannot say that I represent the "vast majority". Suffice to say that I am just an individual from an increasing number of others that seeks to learn from history and prevent making past mistakes again. This includes confronting the increasing threat represented by the turks and repaying our centuries old debts to the turks. We have a lot of debts to repay. We are, in one way or another, guilty for the current behaviour of turks, because we let them get this far. They are arrogant because they are accustomed to get what they want, when they want, from who they want. But we also share that guilt with others. Alone, I may be close to nothing, just flesh and bones, simple and weak, dust in the wind. But togheter... we share a common goal...Why should we always turn the other cheek? I am afraid we have run out of cheeks. We will return something sharper instead. The turko-European affair. In our times is a common sight for a young girl to accept the company of an older (even sick/ill) man to rip him of his valuables. Altough Europe is no young girl, the "love-affair" with "the sick man of Europe", teoretically at least, should have been nothing to worry about. The problem is that Europe sucks the turkish genital organ without getting something valuable out of it. Of course, there are nations that love this kind of activity, just for the fun of it. Let's be serious...the turks don't belong here, as they have proved this time and time again, manifesting their barbaric behaviour just on the borders of true civilisation. Sooner or later all nations will realise that. It is of my concern to make them realise that sooner, so we shouldn't make any more mistakes. I(we) will do my(our) part. Will you do yours? Romanian foreign policy and diplomacy. After the fall of communism in Romania, there has been a stedy flow of failures and bad steps. A recent gathering of political analysts concluded that the best thing Romania has done in the last year considering foreign diplomacy was that "It could have been worst". Some may go as even far as claiming that if this situation continues, it will be irreparable. Those things are said in a time where the romanian government (government and not its citizens) seek strong relations with America and turkey. While having good relations with the Americans might not be bad, seeking to establish good relations with turkey by damaging centuries old relations with others is certainly not the way to go. We are heading towards a wall. Until we hit that wall and realise it actually hurts, we will continue our regress. But those are our problems and you need not concern yourself with them. Only we, Romanians, can repair them. Turks and their neighbours. We are all aware indeed of the fact that turks are not loved by any of their neighbours. At least here in the Balkans, with the exception of muslim Bosnians (there are three ethnic groups in Bosnia: Catholic Croatians, Orthodox Serbs and turkified serbian muslims), every nation harbors, in one way or another, a great hostility towards them. Even the Albanians did, before they were islamizied. The national hero of the Albanians died fighting the turks, and also the turks are the reason why their flag is red. But the vast majority of the Albanians behave like turks attacking everything different from their own culture. What they did and stil do in Kosovo against Orthodox Christians further strenghtens my claim that they are nothing but turks that identify as Albanians. Following these lines I can say that no nation from the Balkans with the possible exception of muslim bosnians and muslim albanians will offer a helping hand to the turks when they will need it the most. The alliance against the turks that you are suggesting is something inevitable and is only a matter of time before we will all focus on our common enemy. I, personally, exhibit a certain level of eagerness toward that day which may not be that far away. But until then, there are several impediments. One of them beeing a military alliance that has lost her original purpose. Until Europeans realize that they shouldn't be the "tool" of other so-called nations, they(we) will continue to make stupid decisions on political level. Europe will realize that it has its own interests, which will manifest also in a European military organisation. What will we do with the turks? Well, that is quite simple. We will do the same things that we were subjected to not to long ago. What goes around comes around. What goes up must come down. We will return the "hospitality" they showed to us. Probably the land of "Moongolia" as you suggest might be a good place to re-locate them. Israelians and Armenians. I must confess that I am appaled of the current stance the Israeli Government has taken towards the Armenian Genocide. They should have been the first to recognize the Genocide, but it seems we live in a "wicked" world. Probably Raphael Lemkin would have been very surprised seeing how modern-day Israelians treat the Armenians regarding the Genocide subject. Probably the Armenians (especialy the large Armenian diaspora) should be more aggresive in confronting those who betray them. I would also like to share my opinion regarding the state of Caucasian Albania. Seems that its past presence and the territories it was composed of seem rather "conveniant" to the tatars. Probably in the end, those tatars will finish their long search by finally finding those "unknown" ancestors and launch a new theory in which they will be some kind of "lost tribe" of Armenians, and thus are able to lay claim to the Armenian land that they currently live on. Currently. I wouldn't be surprised if that will be the case. Note that with the above statement I am trying to be a little sarcastic and do not want to insult the Armenians in any way by linking them with tose tatars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HyeFedayis Posted January 9, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2007 BARELY 500 YEARS? Turkey and fake "Azerbaijan" have treacherously and in an unmanly fashion usurped Armenia less than a century ago and they don't even want to let us have Artsakh back. During the 3 to 4 centuries of Cilician kingdom (Armenians had lived there for more than 2000 years) the country knew an unprecedented progress. The Turks have turned occupied Armenia into a pile of rubble and they do not deserve a single square nanometer of the land they desecrate under their filthy, cloven hoofs. Example: I build a home and live barely a year in it. A bunch of savage murderers break into my home, rape and slauhgter some members of my family and throw the rest out. The leftovers of that scum occupy my home for generations. Some of their offspring have also genes of some of the members of my family. Now tell me, under laws in any civilized society in the entire universe, will the bloodthirsty squatters ever become the rightful owners of my home? Some of them is one poster who farts under different nicknames. That's because you are not an Armenian but someone with multiple personalities posting under different nicks on this forum. First of all the moderators would know from the I.P addresses another thing your the turk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HyeFedayis Posted January 9, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2007 BARELY 500 YEARS? Turkey and fake "Azerbaijan" have treacherously and in an unmanly fashion usurped Armenia less than a century ago and they don't even want to let us have Artsakh back. During the 3 to 4 centuries of Cilician kingdom (Armenians had lived there for more than 2000 years) the country knew an unprecedented progress. The Turks have turned occupied Armenia into a pile of rubble and they do not deserve a single square nanometer of the land they desecrate under their filthy, cloven hoofs. Example: I build a home and live barely a year in it. A bunch of savage murderers break into my home, rape and slauhgter some members of my family and throw the rest out. The leftovers of that scum occupy my home for generations. Some of their offspring have also genes of some of the members of my family. Now tell me, under laws in any civilized society in the entire universe, will the bloodthirsty squatters ever become the rightful owners of my home? Some of them is one poster who farts under different nicknames. That's because you are not an Armenian but someone with multiple personalities posting under different nicks on this forum. That is true but thats like saying the romans should get there land back or the Kurds, plus the area is populated by Turks i assume? i would not want that but i would love a coastal area in the Mediterranean sea or back than it was called armenian bay near the borders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSergiu Posted January 9, 2007 Report Share Posted January 9, 2007 It's quite a while that I have decided to accumulate exhaustive data regarding Azerbaboonistan, translate the non-English part and present it in forums. I have started the work but may god or nature or whatever help me achieve this. There should be more Armenians like you. When talking about this kind of work, too much is never enough. Your post shows how aware and knowledgeable people are regardless of the Turkish fabrications. How can we be not aware when their propaganda has no limits? If extra-terestrial beeing exist, following their contact with humanity, they would certainly find about their lies to. Blind are those who do not want to see and not those who do not have eyes. I believe I may speak for everyone else on this forum, how we would appreciate your surprises. Sorry, but I do not want my presence and posts on this forum to be a “surprise“ for anyone. I think my reasoning and mentality is a direct consequence of their past deeds. Seems turks/tatars are not aware that their actions will have negative consequences regarding their nations Go on, you can call them Zionist/Freemason bastards, Homo-Saxon faggots, Judeo-Sexual foxes... These devils may LOOK sensitive skinned but they are one motorfokking sons of genocidal bitches the world has never seen. Just think of how many ethnicities they have exterminated in the Americas and Australia. Just think of the enslaving of the Africans and all their colonies in India and everywhere else on this planet. You could safely say, genocidals attract. The problem with some European nations is that they have acces to a “Christianity button”. When the need arises they can turn that button off and stop beeing Christians. Then they can ally with their turkic islamic friends and “punish” their “real” enemies, meaning the Orthodox nations of the world. See the artificial state of Bosnia and Herzegovina where Catholics and muslims succesfully oppose Orthodox Christians. It seems to me that, at least, the English nation has some “hard-coded” hate for us. Armenians aren’t the only ones to have suffered because of those Anglo-Saxons you mention. You are, of course, aware of this, as I can clearly see. I am also aware of the actions of the “Christ-killer West” you also mention. Seems that “genocidals attract” indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GevorgP Posted January 9, 2007 Report Share Posted January 9, 2007 (edited) Armenian spiritual contributions Never attack sleeping enemy. One of the biggest contributions of Armenians in the humankind culture; is the lesson that every Armenian childe is learning from "Sasuntsy Davit" legend. At fighting with "Msra Melik" and his army; before attacking the enemy; he gets him awake and on alert! Quote from the legend: Who's sleeping, wake up! Who is awake, stand up! On the alert; on the alert! Davit attacks, on the alert! The legend is teaching Armenians the rules (alphabet), of confronting enemies (Geneva Convention ... is just another wording of the rules, developed later on). This is one of the Armenian values taught to young generation throughout centuries. Historically we learn in family settings and/or kindergarten the rules listed above. Nevertheless Turkeybijan, "citizens", are proponents of different "values; according them: the killer of the sleeping Armenian, Margaryan, is a national "hero". Perhaps they don't like to deal with Armenians on alert; given the Artsakh War lessons learned. Fortunately Europe and the rest of civilized world, doesn't share their barbarian "values". I would like to know the opinion of the Azeries and Turks browsing in this Forum, on the issue above. Do you consider the coward; hero? Edited January 9, 2007 by GevorgP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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