Armenian Contributions

[Boghos]

maybe half-greek. Absolutely not armenian.Not because I care much, but this is reality.

 

Arpa dont swear. Be nice like every armenian.

 

Sooderer,

 

I am sorry to tell you but we Armenians are no longer nice.Just ask your cousins in Azerbokjan.

[gamavor]

I am sorry to tell you but we Armenians are no longer nice.

 

 

Especially with mutants with turkic genetic composition.

[Hellektor]

Yet again if they took over Armenia they would be connected to there blood brothers Azerbaijan and that will let them free to the Caspian sea where the other Turkic brothers are.

A a a a!!!!!!!!!!!

Don't be fooled man!

 

There was NO "Azerbaijan" north of the Arax in those dark days of genocide.

A nation called "Azeri" NEVER existed throughout human history.

 

The Turkic garbage infesting east of south Caucasus are leftovers of Oghuz, Aq-Quyunlu, Qara-Quyunlu species of culture-deficiency parasitical viruses. They were promoted to Tatars of the Caucasus when the region fell under Russian rule. They were/(are in a way) roaming, primitive, cattle-herder, tent-dwelling, nomadic tribes with no national identity.

 

From my forthcoming "Everything you wanted to know about "Azeri" but Turks were afraid you would ask":

 

The artificially fabricated bogus state of fake "Azerbaijan" was fraudulently counterfeited on Armenian territory in 1918 to forge an extension for the Ottoman Tyranny in the Caucasus.

 

Pan-Turkism has a serious flaw though: even if they manage to destroy Armenia, they still have the largest lake in the world as a natural hurdle between them and their Turkic kin in Central Asia.

[Armenak]

From my forthcoming "Everything you wanted to know about "Azeri" but Turks were afraid you would ask":

Woody Allen! Good one.

 

Where will it be posted?

[HyeFedayis]

A a a a!!!!!!!!!!!

Don't be fooled man!

 

There was NO "Azerbaijan" north of the Arax in those dark days of genocide.

A nation called "Azeri" NEVER existed throughout human history.

 

The Turkic garbage infesting east of south Caucasus are leftovers of Oghuz, Aq-Quyunlu, Qara-Quyunlu species of culture-deficiency parasitical viruses. They were promoted to Tatars of the Caucasus when the region fell under Russian rule. They were/(are in a way) roaming, primitive, cattle-herder, tent-dwelling, nomadic tribes with no national identity.

 

From my forthcoming "Everything you wanted to know about "Azeri" but Turks were afraid you would ask":

 

The artificially fabricated bogus state of fake "Azerbaijan" was fraudulently counterfeited on Armenian territory in 1918 to forge an extension for the Ottoman Tyranny in the Caucasus.

 

Pan-Turkism has a serious flaw though: even if they manage to destroy Armenia, they still have the largest lake in the world as a natural hurdle between them and their Turkic kin in Central Asia.

 

No back than it was called "Caucasian Albania".

 

Can you see the map. Its on the right.

 

http://www.armenica.org/history/maps/81ArabAbbasidPeriod750-885.gif

[Dave]

The Albanians weren't the ancestors of the Azeris, as they would want us to believe. They were culturally much closer to the Armenians (religiously and linguistically) than the Azeris who are Turks from Central Asia.

 

The real Azerbaijan was and is located in Iran, south of Arax river, and existed much before the Turkic migration of the late 11th century.

 

The Muslims of what is now "Azerbaijan" never referred themselves as Azeris until the early 20th century. They were separate tribes, collectively called Tatars by European travelers. It was in the interests of the Europeans to unify those who were potential trading partners (Baku oil).

 

etc.

 

Hope that cleared it up.

[LSergiu]

I congratulate the creation of this thread which I think will hold the biggest and most obvious Armenian contributions, because , as previously stated by Hellector, Armenians have had contributions to wherever they were present on many topics, included, but not limited to cultural, architectural and economical achievements, which are the most obvious. I think that the memebers on this forums are not fully aware to the economic potential the Armenians constituted several centuries ago, especially in the previous romanian states of Moldavia , Wallachia and Transylvania. Especially, but not only there. I am quite interested if you, as Armenians are aware that there are towns in Romania which were founded by Armenians and are centuries old. I will make later a thread regarding the Armenian achievements in the lands which constitute modern day Romania. I think you will be surprised by what I will say.

 

Regarding the "manufacturing of history" process in which turkey and the tatars north of the Arax river are engaged I will like to say that we shouldn't be surprised by their actions. Because this endless search of their "ancestors" is only a tool with which they can "legally" justify the occupation of lands belonging to nations far more older than their own. But how can you prove something that isn't true in the first place? With money, of course. Maybe they can "buy" their ancestors. Did you know there is even a theory that the Pelasgians were related to turks? This way they can justify the occupation of Greek land. Did you know there is a turkish theory that the Thracians were related to turks? This way they can justify the former (and possibly future?) occupation of the Balkans. This last theory will make me nothing but a latinized turk. Did you know there are turkish theories that the inidgenous population of America are related to turkic tribes? This way they can probably claim the whole land of north America. Probably after a few years we will hear that the French, Anglo-Saxons and Chinese are also of turkish descent. Nothing surprises me anymore.

 

It was in the interests of the Europeans to unify those who were potential trading partners (Baku oil).

 

It is not in the best interest of Europeans to unify those who were terrorizing Europe several hundreds of years ago. History has a tendency of repeating itself and old foes remain so, even under the pretext of economic colaboration. What you are talking about is the interest of Anglo-Saxons that didn't feel the cold blade of their blades on their "sensible skin" and do not know how it is like to be in the situation of fighting warmongers that hate the very fabric of your beeing. The Englishmen, especially, have a "proud" history of jumping to the "defense" of muslim nations even if they are the aggresors (most recently ilustrated in the Nagorno Karabakh conflict), prefering to join muslims in their oppresion against fellow Christians rather than helping christians be free of muslim rule. Also, the tatar oil reserves are not limitless. What will the tatars do when they will run out of oil? Probably moving further east on the bottom of the Caspian lake.

[Arpa]

First off,

Dear Sergiu, BUN VENIT**, Welcome, Bari Ekar.

OK Vlad the Impaler of Wallachia, is this you?

http://members.aol.com/johnfranc/drac05.htm

Please do tell us more about him.

You seem to be so passionate about turko-Romanian, and, by association about turko-Armenian issues. Are you alone in this passion or do you reflect the sentiment of the majority of Romanians vis a vis turko-European “love affair”. We are quite aware of the turko-Romanian “love affair”. Ask Vlad Tepes, aka Dracula.What happened? Did “the Impaler” run out of stakes that he left some of those barbarian rats to survive and infest the region with “Black Death/Bubonic Plague” as only rats are known to spread .

Is Bucharest ready to ally with Byurakan

http://www.armeniapedia.org/index.php?titl...kan_Observatory

to, once and for all extinguish their "star"?

** For quite sometime I had noticed that the Romanian language is closely related with Latin/Italian. Of course. It is “Romanian” after all. Note the “roman” element in the name.

I congratulate the creation of this thread which I think will hold the biggest and most obvious Armeni

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Regarding the "manufacturing of history" process in which turkey and the tatars north of the Arax river are engaged I will like to say that we shouldn't be surprised by their actions. Because this endless search of their "ancestors" is only a tool with which they can "legally" justify the occupation of lands belonging to nations far more older than their own. But how can you prove something that isn't true in the first place? With money, of course. Maybe they can "buy" their ancestors. Did you know there is even a theory that the Pelasgians were related to turks? This way they can justify the occupation of Greek land. Did you know there is a turkish theory that the Thracians were related to turks? This way they can justify the former (and possibly future?) occupation of the Balkans. This last theory will make me nothing but a latinized turk. Did you know there are turkish theories that the inidgenous population of America are related to turkic tribes? This way they can probably claim the whole land of north America. Probably after a few years we will hear that the French, Anglo-Saxons and Chinese are also of turkish descent. Nothing surprises me anymore.

There is a crude (Armenian?)saying that goes; Whoever raped your you mother is not necessarily your father.

Edited January 7, 2007 by Arpa

[Arpa]

For a long time I have been banging my head against that stone wall (remember that “wall” in Jerusalem), trying to show why, against all odds and assumptions that a certain people are (NOT) our true “genocide-holocaust” allies, and that, based on the similarity of our history and destiny will promote our quest… until the “shit hit the fan” so to speak, when they would not only not, after using our money and our plight for recognition, lobbied the US Congress to fund the so called Holocaust Museum and at the end, they not only excluded us but became the prime champion “deniers”.

I give up. All that banging against that stone wall is giving me a big headache.

It seems it takes longer for some people to see the real picture.

Speaking of which. Survey this map;

http://worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/asia/trlarge.htm

And tell us which of the neighbors of the respective so-called countries are enamored with them.

Forget that bushy, I mean hrya “tail” that wags that foaming in the mouth rabin rabid “dog”.

Let us concentrate on the real “dog”.

Look ate the countries/nations surrounding that land some call Turkey and tell us which one of them loves them.

Counterclockwise. Is it the Romanians, the Bulgarians, the Greek, the Syrians, the Iraqis, the Iranians, the Armenians , the Georgians (?) ( if they only knew who they were?), the Russians, the Ukrainians, the Moldovans???? How about the Romans, the Austrian-Viennese, th Serbs and Croats (plese exclude thos turko-bastard Bosneo-Albanians?

When will all the above come together. Blow Ankara to the moon. They have the picture of the moon on their flag), re-establish Greek hegemony over Constantinople, return Hagia Sophia to Saint Sophia, reclaim Ani of the 1001 church fame, and that Sacred Mountain Masis/Ararat to their rightful owners?

If only all those who “hate “ the very existence of Ankara would get off that “hate” mode and get into action, and rather use their might and passion . Only then we would watch the skies and see Ankara blown to the moon and reunite around once famous Angora.

In the meantime, I will not hold my breath anymore as it is depriving my brain of that vital oxygen.

If only the Wallachians of Bokara-Bucharest, the Bulgarians of Sofia/ the Greeks of Hagia Sophia, the Syrians of Alexandretta, the Norhren Iraqis of Diarkakir, the Iranians of Urmia, the Georgians, nobody knows,the Russians/Ukrainians of Crimea, and the Armeniasn of Ararat and Ani would come together???

Is the “crescent/moon” far enough?

How about “moongolia”?

Who loves the Turk?

Look at the above map again.

[zurderer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9P272_XWnU

 

These guys love us. I think It is enough for you. Look at the older lady, She is much more man than you.

[Arpa]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9P272_XWnU

 

These guys love us. I think It is enough for you. Look at the older lady, She is much more man than you.

Yeah!

Tell that fat Fatma to insert her gun in her mother’s and her am. In case she may have forgotten, we will show her where that aperture is.

Has she not heard that Mehmet declared that the Ottoman subjects are not to own instruments of war when they ordered that all instruments of war, all the way from “dolma tufenk” to “sapan/ slimgshot” be turned in to the authorities?

So! Where is that “ Fatma, ana sikmish kahbeh” getting that pistol from?

Doesn’t she know that all the “tufenk-ji-ians, “barut-ji-ians”, “top-ji-ians”, “demir-ji-ians” and “silah-ji-ians” are “all gone“?

Gone?

Where?

In your mother’s am/boots?

[zurderer]

As I said before, She is more man than you. Swearing is not so manly my friend, specially from internet.

 

Did you afraid from her child?

[Hellektor]

Woody Allen! Good one.

 

Where will it be posted?

It's quite a while that I have decided to accumulate exhaustive data regarding Azerbaboonistan, translate the non-English part and present it in forums. I have started the work but may god or nature or whatever help me achieve this.

 

The Albanians weren't the ancestors of the Azeris, as they would want us to believe. They were culturally much closer to the Armenians (religiously and linguistically) than the Azeris who are Turks from Central Asia.

 

The real Azerbaijan was and is located in Iran, south of Arax river, and existed much before the Turkic migration of the late 11th century.

 

The Muslims of what is now "Azerbaijan" never referred themselves as Azeris until the early 20th century. They were separate tribes, collectively called Tatars by European travelers. It was in the interests of the Europeans to unify those who were potential trading partners (Baku oil).

 

etc.

 

Hope that cleared it up.

Dave's post explains what I am trying to do in a nutshell.

 

I'll add from my incomplete article:

Without a doubt, the most complete historical record of Aghvank is the seventh century Armenian historian, Movses Kaghankatouatsi's "History of Aghvank...

 

...A most significant record in "History of Aghvank" is Movses Kaghankatouatsi’s presentation of the ancestral tree of the Aghvans. As it appears, at his time, the Aghvans were seen to be of the same origin as the Armenians, namely the descendants of Hyke, the forefather of the Armenians according to their mythology...

 

I'll present the tree along with the article. The point is not whether Hyke existed or not, rather the fact that the Aghvans and Armenians were thought to be of the same origin long before the Turks ravaged the region.

[Hellektor]

No back than it was called "Caucasian Albania".

 

Can you see the map. Its on the right.

Dear HyeFedayis, the artificially fabricated bogus state of fake "Azerbaijan's" borders don't agree completely with those of Aghvank. The map you present here is modern and is rather more in the interest of the "Azeris". On your map, the Armenian province of Paytakaran is drawn as part of Aghvank which has not always been the case. I'll show you quotes from dozens of historians, mostly Islamic, who say the border between Armenia and Aghvank was the River Kur.

 

http://www.armeniangenocide.com/photos/data/500/medium/Ashkharhatsouits-for-Web.jpg

 

Click on the map for the larger image

 

This is a reconstruction of Anania Shirakatsi's Ashkharhatsouits. Of course, this is also modern but drawn according to Shirakatsi's data. This is the Armenia we want, minus the parts in Iran, plus Cilicia, Trabizond, Sebastia and Kesaria (Ceasarea), which we will take once we reduce the Turkish state to rubble, even if it takes a thousand years.

[Hellektor]

Your post shows how aware and knowledgeable people are regardless of the Turkish fabrications.

I think that the memebers on this forums are not fully aware to the economic potential the Armenians constituted several centuries ago, especially in the previous romanian states of Moldavia , Wallachia and Transylvania. Especially, but not only there. I am quite interested if you, as Armenians are aware that there are towns in Romania which were founded by Armenians and are centuries old. I will make later a thread regarding the Armenian achievements in the lands which constitute modern day Romania. I think you will be surprised by what I will say.

I believe I may speak for everyone else on this forum, how we would appreciate your surprises.

 

Regarding the "manufacturing of history" process in which turkey and the tatars north of the Arax river are engaged I will like to say that we shouldn't be surprised by their actions. Because this endless search of their "ancestors" is only a tool with which they can "legally" justify the occupation of lands belonging to nations far more older than their own. But how can you prove something that isn't true in the first place? With money, of course. Maybe they can "buy" their ancestors. Did you know there is even a theory that the Pelasgians were related to turks? This way they can justify the occupation of Greek land. Did you know there is a turkish theory that the Thracians were related to turks? This way they can justify the former (and possibly future?) occupation of the Balkans. This last theory will make me nothing but a latinized turk. Did you know there are turkish theories that the inidgenous population of America are related to turkic tribes? This way they can probably claim the whole land of north America. Probably after a few years we will hear that the French, Anglo-Saxons and Chinese are also of turkish descent. Nothing surprises me anymore.

As far as Turkish claims they have proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that Sumerians, Aramaic, Hurrians, Hitites, Greeks, Parthians, Elamite, Manni, Mittani, Arrata, Medians, Urartu, Achaemenids, Lydians, Thracians, Aluanians, Egyptians, Assyrians, Accadians, Babylonians, Etruscans, Scythians, Eskimo, Native Americans, Martians, Saturnans, Jupiterians, Out of the Milky Wayans, Parallel Universians, Pre-Big Bangians, Residents of the Black Holes, the dinosaurs, the mammoths, the smilodons, the yetis, Zoroaster, Adam, Noah, Mohammad, Jesus, Moses... and heaven knows what not, are all Turks.

 

It is not in the best interest of Europeans to unify those who were terrorizing Europe several hundreds of years ago. History has a tendency of repeating itself and old foes remain so, even under the pretext of economic colaboration. What you are talking about is the interest of Anglo-Saxons that didn't feel the cold blade of their blades on their "sensible skin" and do not know how it is like to be in the situation of fighting warmongers that hate the very fabric of your beeing. The Englishmen, especially, have a "proud" history of jumping to the "defense" of muslim nations even if they are the aggresors (most recently ilustrated in the Nagorno Karabakh conflict), prefering to join muslims in their oppresion against fellow Christians rather than helping christians be free of muslim rule. Also, the tatar oil reserves are not limitless. What will the tatars do when they will run out of oil? Probably moving further east on the bottom of the Caspian lake.

Go on, you can call them Zionist/Freemason bastards, Homo-Saxon faggots, Judeo-Sexual foxes...

These devils may LOOK sensitive skinned but they are one motorfokking sons of genocidal bitches the world has never seen. Just think of how many ethnicities they have exterminated in the Americas and Australia. Just think of the enslaving of the Africans and all their colonies in India and everywhere else on this planet. You could safely say, genocidals attract.

[Error 404]

As I said before, She is more man than you. Swearing is not so manly my friend, specially from internet.

 

Did you afraid from her child?

 

No zurderer we are not afraid of her and her child. Those are bunch of bashibozuks (turkish crap) and all they can is to make loud noises.

 

Armenians do not waste their amunition and when they shoot they don't miss

 

anyway

 

it looks like turkish propaganda makers are getting more and more in this forum.

 

Beware the Ides of March....

[zurderer]

Error dont take it personal. It is for arpa a small child, who think If he swear, he becomes more man.

[Error 404]

Error dont take it personal. It is for arpa a small child, who think If he swear, he becomes more man.

 

Arpa never swears without no reason. He is a patriot and I respect him.

[zurderer]

You should forget to add, he is a moron and child. Anyway, will you respect If that patriot swear you? hmm?

[Error 404]

I already told you. He has a reason to swear. When someone (like you) comes here and acts sarcastic and ignorant telling us that yeah we did the genocide we massacred armenian population but we are not going to recognize it what you gonna do about that...

 

In my opinion he deserves filthy language.

[HyeFedayis]

Dear HyeFedayis, the artificially fabricated bogus state of fake "Azerbaijan's" borders don't agree completely with those of Aghvank. The map you present here is modern and is rather more in the interest of the "Azeris". On your map, the Armenian province of Paytakaran is drawn as part of Aghvank which has not always been the case. I'll show you quotes from dozens of historians, mostly Islamic, who say the border between Armenia and Aghvank was the River Kur.

 

http://www.armeniangenocide.com/photos/data/500/medium/Ashkharhatsouits-for-Web.jpg

 

Click on the map for the larger image

 

This is a reconstruction of Anania Shirakatsi's Ashkharhatsouits. Of course, this is also modern but drawn according to Shirakatsi's data. This is the Armenia we want, minus the parts in Iran, plus Cilicia, Trabizond, Sebastia and Kesaria (Ceasarea), which we will take once we reduce the Turkish state to rubble, even if it takes a thousand years.

 

Why in the world would you want Cilica we only had that for barely 500 years and that was way back.

 

I only want Mount Ararat, kars, ani and lake van and i will be satisfied the rest are not important and of course karabakh.

[HyeFedayis]

The Albanians weren't the ancestors of the Azeris, as they would want us to believe. They were culturally much closer to the Armenians (religiously and linguistically) than the Azeris who are Turks from Central Asia.

 

The real Azerbaijan was and is located in Iran, south of Arax river, and existed much before the Turkic migration of the late 11th century.

 

The Muslims of what is now "Azerbaijan" never referred themselves as Azeris until the early 20th century. They were separate tribes, collectively called Tatars by European travelers. It was in the interests of the Europeans to unify those who were potential trading partners (Baku oil).

 

etc.

 

Hope that cleared it up.

 

Caucasian Albania was related to the Azeris for a fact plus albanian history is very messy.

[HyeFedayis]

No zurderer we are not afraid of her and her child. Those are bunch of bashibozuks (turkish crap) and all they can is to make loud noises.

 

Armenians do not waste their amunition and when they shoot they don't miss

 

anyway

 

it looks like turkish propaganda makers are getting more and more in this forum.

 

Beware the Ides of March....

 

And who are the turks in our forum?

[Yervant1]

And who are the turks in our forum?

Why don't you tell us, you seem to know everything.

[HyeFedayis]

Why don't you tell us, you seem to know everything.

 

Okay sorry but I'm interested in history and because i do not believe in nationalism history I'm not like some of you people falsifying history is wrong and i don't make up stuff and I'm Armenian born in America. Another thing is our army is not so strong and bragging about it is nonsense.