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good point. tooth and some others in this forum should grab a book and learn of what happened during the armenian genocide and after... kurds are as bigger liers as the turks. You say dont blame the turks today, well,,, how can we not when they so eagerly carry on their tradition of lying, manipulating and deseaving the hole world, ON OUR BEHALF.

vai maralo im yari boyin mernem ay maralo im yari boyin mernem maralo, hye maralo maralo, maralo, sari agchiki taralo I dont know the lyrics as you can see. its a great dance-song though ...

stealing armenian infants, young girls and boys, taking their entire belongings and killing innocent people just to be able to have their lands, and labeling the name armenian and changing it to kurdish, if that makes them more closer to armenians, Arpa, yes , then... what you say is true.

http://www.armenianow.com/2004/june18/feat...chool/index.asp

Sometimes people really surprise me no this forum Armenia must be one of the countries with most painters and artists in the world!! if comparying to the number of people that lives there with any other country. Everyone should know that,,,and stop putting armenia, armenians down.

Armenia produces MANY talanted people such as artists and painters,funny how not contemporary art exist in armenia?

my parents are a different kind . they are the opposite ,when i was 14 or so, some armenian women mentioned something about marriage to me, and my mother responded with , ah the poor child doesnt even know what marriage is . I didn't oppose to her, as always. they forbid me to have boyfriends. no talk about marraige, or boyfriends or any kind of that stuff. Its not as if id want to run off and get married. But beeing extreme, on either side , pushing girls/guys into marriage, and on other hand not allowing them to even have boyfriends/girlfriends, are both very nasty. I strive for the "normal" in swedish.

i dont think that music neccacarly sounds better singing it in persian than it is in armenian. Depends on what kind of music we are talking about. I do both, and both are beauitful in each their own way.

Well, not all of claimed Kurdistan would fall into Armenia. No not all.But im talking of arevmdyan armenia of course. turks have ocupied western armenia. now they call it kurdistan in european media's, how pathetic isnt that? so not only do they give their approval of the turks genoicde towards armenians, or their occupation of armenia, by covering it up by calling it turkish"Kurdistan" the kurds are also in IRAq, Iran, syria. well the europeans think its ok to give independence to iraqi-kurdistan, or turkey-kurdistan. But the iranians are to clever and are fighting american imperialism/globalisation, and would not let them split up iran, to an independent kurdistan there as well.

well some armenaians should learn more about their history,as they know very little, before mentioning kurdistan, as it is actually western armenia. just because they have renamed the cities in turkey doesnt mean that everything is forgotten.

USA want to make the list longer of "allies": Turkey, Israel, Azerbadjian, and now, Kurdistan. a manufactured country just like israel or turkey. Scrw them! why dont the persians let the kurds get independence in their country. would they give it to them if they demanded? no. The azeris are also trying to gain more armenian land. would the iranians let the azeri-iranians get independence in Iran? No. WHy should we let them have our land?

about taking advantage... you dont study for "the teacher"/professor, you do it for yourself. I'd rather have a good teacher , who can critisize you- help become "better" in whatever sucject im studying, than sucking up, or taking advantage. its not for the the teacher im studying, but for myself. everyone sets their own standard. so take the nose job, cut your hair, and put on make up(if your a woman),but at the end of the day, what counts, is your abilities/knowleadge and that what you want to do with your life , and that you are aware of what you want, not what other people think of you.

Nakharar, very well said indeed.

Thanks for the article in armenianow. I had a reeaally good laugh out of it:lol:

Be glad you can study, and work! Not everyone has the chance to do so. once in a while you have to do soemthing else, for variation, besides studying its a must for our mind and soul, And to be able to contiune studying, youll do a better job if you take that little paus from work/study.

Dont be surprised a turk is always a turk and a kurd always a kurd, Bajts yerpek yerpek nrank chen karoghana djndjel hyebatmotionne. History cannot be changed, you get that into your thick heads. Armenians were deported from their original homeland, call it kurdistan, turkey... why please armenians share some of your land with you there are plenty of different caucasian tribes, why so cheap, armenia/armenians?everyone is entitled to their "own homeland!!

Did anyone say a jew cant be nice? And besides judaism is a religion, they can be turkish sweidish or even american or french. and TashnagZinvor, if youre armenian youd know that judaism and armenians are not the same, they do not have the Same religion. Remember our homeland used to be eastern turkey so it isnt a surprise that we share a lot of cultural aspects together. turks azgme goyotion choni, if youre armenian you should understand that.

Thanks for answearing that... good point. Though armenians were armenians before christianity as well, civilazation didn't begin with christianity.And armenians were though quite aware of their nationality before they embraced christianity as their offical religion(maybe thats why they did it!) my point is that tehre is a differents , after all this time the armenians stand alone , beeing christian or not! there are nationalities that also took christianity as their faith and they all tried to run armenia , they failed though. Mostly by forced assimilation have armenians have given up their national heritage. Greek-orthodox, the catholics. etc. everyone tried to have power over our church. SO what religion would you suggest changing to?

Religion and nationalities/culture are different things. So we stayed armenian due to religion youre saying?Why shouldnt the armenian nation have survived without christinity, could you name an example, please?

Vigil: I read through your post though i came across this line wich I dont really understand what it is you mean. Could you please clarify it a bit! ? Thank you!

Indeed, a big welcome. It's nice to have you in our forum!

to loxxsqueen Every tragic incident in the world history , be it an attemt for genocide or not , calls for recognition or else the victims of that crime can never go on with their lives, and that those who commit the crime cannot be put to justice. The armenian genocide is one case, and its very important to have it recognized at least for all who are armenians or have grandparents who came from "turkey". If we let it go unpunished the same thing will happen over and over again as we see! -Till this day Turkey commits crimes against humanity , and also their close neighbours Azerbadjian.Who is doing anything to stop it? The already ethinically cleansed Naktivjevan. And the world media DARE to say armenians are terrorists. ? In our case a hole nation was almost wiped out and they are tring to do the same with the denial of the armenian genocide today with denying all knowleadge our rich history and culture in anatolia, turkey.

or they are just plain and simply 'stupid.

From the AGBU magazine - Armenians in Ethiopia http://www.agbu.org/agbunews/display.asp?A_ID=101

Isn't it already the most aggressive? I felt horrible seeing that pic, who wouldnt hate america for ockupying a coountry and then using torture and murder to control the people there?!