Sasun Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 Jealous people suffer more than their wife or partner. So don't bash them for wanting to marry a virgin. Stormig, I think your attitude is a bit unjustified, people have the right to be jealous or "neurotic" or whatever you might call them, but we don't have the right to judge them, its their life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armo77 Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 Dont know why everyone cares so much about how I feel, what I think, or what I prefer.. I must be really important, or some people are really easy to offend FOR SOME STRANGE REASON!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormig Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 it can be a turn-on to think Well personally for me it`s a huge turn-off!!!!!!!!! let`s be honoust, who wants to imagine his wife with somebody else? I think I would get sick of the idea! Davo, you're a sentimental and frail and fragile one. Why, I can't even think of anyone I know who would want to die if some SOB walked up to one's spouse and was rude. It's just the way you are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheekY Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 Jealous people suffer more than their wife or partner. So don't bash them for wanting to marry a virgin. Stormig, I think your attitude is a bit unjustified, people have the right to be jealous or "neurotic" or whatever you might call them, but we don't have the right to judge them, its their life. too much is an illness and they need professional help...a psychologist perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheekY Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 (edited) Well personally for me it`s a huge turn-off!!!!!!!!! let`s be honoust, who wants to imagine his wife with somebody else? I think I would get sick of the idea! then don't? you will make yourself crazy lol gf=girlfriend Edited January 9, 2004 by skittles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasun Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 too much is an illness and they need professional help...a psychologist perhaps? Sure... help yes, but blaming? no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormig Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 Stormig, I think your attitude is a bit unjustified, people have the right to be jealous or "neurotic" or whatever you might call them, but we don't have the right to judge them, its their life. Well that's a first, for from my observation jealousy and possessiveness are unhealthy for the individual and for society as are all excesses. Jealousy leads to honour killings and the like and is a very immature human sentiment that should be limited with children's jealousy of others' toys even if not successfully smitten out. People have a "right" to be greedy, too, but it leads to destruction, injustice, crime, suffering, etc. One can be greedy and eat until they burst - greed in eating is limited to oneself unless they grab the food off another's plate - hence it is when it is greed for power, money, etc., that others are carried into the picture and you have the problems. But jealousy directly involves a second person and I can see nothing benign about it, because with the right circumstances everyone can be a victim and anyone can be the perpetrator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormig Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 I must be really important, or some people are really easy to offend FOR SOME STRANGE REASON!. What can I say, other than that you have a very narrow sight. Posting about U.S.'s mis-actions means, for you, that I advocate Muslim extremists' strapping bombs around themselves and blowing Christians up. I can tell you for the record that you are wrong if you think I place importance on you - I place far greater value in exchange (or ventilation) of ideas and to give people food for thought even if at the end they don't agree with me - hence they can come back and provide me with more, but for some people, talking about themselves, their preferences, their views, their experiences, and none others' (except for where they live and what they eat and/or drink) on and on and on and ad nauseam is all they are interested in - hence the way the "Same sex marriages" thread has degraded into "homosexuality is wrong no it is not"... Only a handful of people are interested in talking about things for us ALL for a significant part of the time. And if anything, clueless people who have been lucky so far, I find talk about human beings (from the same sex as myself) as if they are horses to be looked up in the mouth EXTREMELY offensive - so it's not as "innocent" on your part as you think it ought to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormig Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 Pride I think is a better word then jealousy in this case. A bit of jealousy can even be healthy in a relationship. It`s like wood that keeps the fire burning. Pride? Arrogance is more like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armo77 Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 Cut us some slack will you.. Not everyone is exactly like you... WHO CARES IF I WOULD LIKE A VIRGIN WIFE!! Its not like YOUR going to be my wife so dont trip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormig Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 Saying you want a virgin is one thing. (And I have yet to hear from a lady I know personally that it's OK for their husbands to get have all their fun before and after marriage while they had to sit a virgin until the ring was on the finger - but even that's not disputable - I'm not going to try to convince the lady to do something she is not up to/ready for or that her husband should behave.) Talking about women as if they get dirtied by sexual encounters is an entirely other thing. I don't care if you are talking about your future wife or the girl down the street from where you live. And you can't expect me to not react - I am not an unopinionated worm. And don't worry about the slack - these all come as naturally as I breathe... I wonder - has any psychologist ever tried to explain this jealousy phenomenon by drawing this thing about ejaculating/inserting vs. being inserted into? Psychologists get off on all tangents, I'd be surprised if there weren't anything about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armo77 Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 Why are you so bitter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armo77 Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 I just sense pent up anger or resentment.. But thats just my take on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheekY Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 Pride I think is a better word then jealousy in this case. A bit of jealousy can even be healthy in a relationship. It`s like wood that keeps the fire burning. uhhh what?? picturing someone else doing your wife 24/7 is because of pride? you're confusing me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheekY Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 sorry didn't see the quoted sentence... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 (edited) Well that's a first, for from my observation jealousy and possessiveness are unhealthy for the individual and for society as are all excesses. Jealousy leads to honour killings and the like and is a very immature human sentiment that should be limited with children's jealousy of others' toys even if not successfully smitten out. People have a "right" to be greedy, too, but it leads to destruction, injustice, crime, suffering, etc. One can be greedy and eat until they burst - greed in eating is limited to oneself unless they grab the food off another's plate - hence it is when it is greed for power, money, etc., that others are carried into the picture and you have the problems. But jealousy directly involves a second person and I can see nothing benign about it, because with the right circumstances everyone can be a victim and anyone can be the perpetrator. I advocate the same principals in life and sometimes yell if I have to make ppl understand, it all comes down how screwed up the society is and like genes passing thru generations, seems like its a disease and speaking of virgin and honor killing etc.. It is just another one on the chain; I'm with you on this Stormig. Say as much as you want, but most of the time you find talking to a brick wall, all evidence here for you to agree!! Cheers Edited January 9, 2004 by Edward Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 tas@ chapi, mek@ gldori, lol Davo Amen martu nuyn arshinovel chen chapum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gevo27 Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 Everybody is kinda using this topic too widely... and some are way off topic.. lol.. But honestly i think and for various reasons, that a man and a woman should be virgins till there honeymoon.. because that honeymoon night you will never forget in your life... Virginity shows a sense of self control, a sense of good judgment. And ofcourse it shows that you can say no, or keep away from something that your body desires with a heating passion.... And if you can do that, then you will have a better marital relationship, cause you can control your self... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheekY Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 practice(not with whores of course) makes perfect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nairi Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 Virginity shows a sense of self control, a sense of good judgment. And ofcourse it shows that you can say no, or keep away from something that your body desires with a heating passion.... And if you can do that, then you will have a better marital relationship, cause you can control your self... ??? What's wrong with a good f... every now and again? Are you saying I should starve myself and say no to food? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 ??? What's wrong with a good f... every now and again? Are you saying I should starve myself and say no to food? but of course nairi jan, hayenq che menq, petq yekav hats el chenq uti!!! thats the aditute girl , way to go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasun Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 hmm... Nairi and Ed, so many people have died from lack of sex Folks, aren't you going too far? Each person is different. Everyone is stating their preferences, interesting (or not) to know but that's it. Why so much argument each one trying to prove his/her preference is the right one? I say, you want to marry a virgin, do so and be happy. You don't want to marry a virgin, do so and be happy. You don't want to be a virgin, be so and be happy. You want to be a virgin, be so and be happy. Anyone has a problem with this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheekY Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 yeah you're right... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hye_Acher Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 Ok seems very interesting thread (I think) but……… How do you know if your partner is virgin or not? And what if your partner lies? Does that mean end of the marriage??? <_< <_< <_< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 hmm... Nairi and Ed, so many people have died from lack of sex Folks, aren't you going too far? Each person is different. Everyone is stating their preferences, interesting (or not) to know but that's it. Why so much argument each one trying to prove his/her preference is the right one? I say, you want to marry a virgin, do so and be happy. You don't want to marry a virgin, do so and be happy. You don't want to be a virgin, be so and be happy. You want to be a virgin, be so and be happy. Anyone has a problem with this? Sasun jan, I'm with you all the way, live and let live. What I cant stand is some people so passionate about beeing virgin and all that bull, you find those same poeple reading "HAZAR U MEK GISHERNER" under there blankets at night! <_< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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