sev-mard Posted January 12, 2004 Report Share Posted January 12, 2004 This maybe a simple or already asked question, Davo are you a virgin still as well? How far do you go with girls? What do you consider to be hamest, before marriage, for you, a guy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valantina Posted January 12, 2004 Report Share Posted January 12, 2004 (edited) WoW i must say for the first time i read so many opnions "GOOD ONES" on this subject ...wel done all in my Opinion, i cant speak for other people What ever decissions they make in their lifes, its not my say! not so ever! i only have my say on myself and what i think for me coz that is important and not what i think for others <_< Personaly i think everything has its own special time. Giving ur Virginity to someone, He must be a Special one and on the Special day i dont agree with those who keep their Virginity just coz THEY MUST keep it or coz of fear from the FAMILY, Or No Armenian, Chaldean,Assyrian Guy will merry them!! it is not by Power! i believe it should be a choice Coz when its ur Choice you will feel Its more meaningful and its something you realy meant it when you gave it to the special one Edited January 12, 2004 by Valantina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sev-mard Posted January 12, 2004 Report Share Posted January 12, 2004 Nicely said there girl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valantina Posted January 12, 2004 Report Share Posted January 12, 2004 Nicely said there girl. Thank you http://www.assyriannation.com/forums/html/emoticons/blushing.gif http://www.assyriannation.com/forums/html/emoticons/flowers.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THOTH Posted January 12, 2004 Report Share Posted January 12, 2004 Well valantina - your certaionly free to feel as you do -- and i do hope for your sake that it is special (no garantee there).... But I do also think that you have bought into this expectation concerning sex - that it is something for a woman to hold onto her virginity as some gift to the male upon marraige - etc. and that you will only ever be with one sort of thing...well...again your choice - but obviously - with so many interested in doing it with so many others - well - don't you ever wonder if your missing out? Sex is wonderful (and yes it certainly helps if its someone you care about - and you should - it shouldnt be so casual - but that also works for some too...jts my opinon). But yeah - sex is good fun play between adults and there is much to be said with variety and having the experience with different people - for many reaasons...and of course the whole thrill of discovering etc. Its such a shame to me - that many women 9and guys too) have been sold this bill of goods to wait unitl marraige etc - as if it cannot also be special with others that you love and that the experience is a good thing (to be savored and enjoyed) - and no disparagement on the girl. And certainly there should be no different standards between men and women. It might come as a surprise to some - but women enjoy sex too - often very very much (and nothign could be better in my eyes)...oh well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THOTH Posted January 12, 2004 Report Share Posted January 12, 2004 See what I mean.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valantina Posted January 12, 2004 Report Share Posted January 12, 2004 Well valantina - your certaionly free to feel as you do -- and i do hope for your sake that it is special (no garantee there).... If its my choice, then sure its SPECIAL and iam not saying it have to be special for my partner too coz iam SURE it wont be my partner's first time <_< lol with so many interested in doing it with so many others - well - don't you ever wonder if your missing out? iam sure its wonderful feelings but for me to feel missing out, iam not sure and as far as i dont have my head into it, then iam doing great and not feeling missed out lol sex is good fun play between adults and there is much to be said with variety and having the experience with different people - for many reaasons...and of course the whole thrill of discovering etc. iam sure it is But i dont agree with experiencing it with Diff people for one its not SAFE <_< and if you cant hang on to one and have ur fun! then i think you will never have enough even if you have 20 And certainly there should be no different standards between men and women. iam Glad you think that way and that is EXACTLY what i think too,.. but in my opinion i never said its ok for guys and not for girls i only said i can make my decission for myself on that! It might come as a surprise to some - but women enjoy sex too - <_< Duuhh LooL ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valantina Posted January 12, 2004 Report Share Posted January 12, 2004 yes indeed I feel shy writing the word SEX here because I think it`s kind of strange to talk about this in a forum where girls read it. Well i disagree with you there <_< You should be saying that in here Coz there are girls from ur nation here who will READ it and its a good CHANCE to let them know how you guys feel !! i Love seeing or reading people's replies who are OUT in the OPEN and not hiding their thoughts or opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sev-mard Posted January 12, 2004 Report Share Posted January 12, 2004 Skitty, I never said that the guy has needs what he doesn`t want his wife to know about but I said maybe it`s not so propriet (or something) to share this with his wife. And yes indeed I feel shy writing the word SEX here because I think it`s kind of strange to talk about this in a forum where girls read it. Sev-Mard how far I go with girls is not so important, I mean even if I go very far (let`s say all the way) then I don`t do this with "normal" girls but with girls who are in to that and I never want someone who wants to have a normal family to marry this girls. If this girl is not an armenian (or already not a virgin) maybe virginity doesn`t count for her and then it is acceptable but even when a virgin armenian girl would like to do something more I would refuse, no matter how gorgeious she is because mexq@ im vzin e, I know what it could do to her AND her family. I know this all may sound strange but you all force me to write! So you do/have done sexual things with girls, even odars or hye bozzes, but hye girls who you'd deem marriage material should stay virgins? Men many times say that they have done stuff with ho's, but act like they are not ho's too, for messing with ho's?! I don't like ho's so I don't mess with them. How can one point fingers at people who you're technically in the same group as? Im not saying you Davo, just in general. It's ridiculous for men to sleep around, yet expect girls to stay virgins. Why would a woman who has saved herself, want to them marry a male boz? Doesn't make any sense.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheekY Posted January 12, 2004 Report Share Posted January 12, 2004 "I don`t want to go to deep into this but just to explain, a man can have some needs (lust) that he might not want his wive to get into that." http://64.21.83.54/forum/index.php?showtopic=7867&st=20 hey come on now don't be so shy! what are you 10? lol j/k no but really how old are you?? oh yeah since S** is so "embarrassing" to talk about maybe that's why some guys go to whores? i mean..."oh my God the woman i'm married to will know about "it"!" lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheekY Posted January 12, 2004 Report Share Posted January 12, 2004 Why would a woman who has saved herself, want to them marry a male boz? Doesn't make any sense.. funny lol ummm hey so men want us to give them the most "precious" gift we can but then they ruin our "gift" by sticking their dirty little "things" in..........................................uhh... huh? lol im confused... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheekY Posted January 12, 2004 Report Share Posted January 12, 2004 Ok, well if you all are so open minded. It`s not a thing of being shy to be honoust but I`m showing respect by not using the words. Just like guys might use some bad words if they are talking somewhere "alone" but when there are girls around they watch there language. Ande he, what`s next armenian strippers should be considdered as somebody with a profession? Armenian PORN STARS? XELKNERT HAVAKEQ!!!!!!!!!!!!! Axchikneri asac@ stex vorna? Vor menq "ajsinqn hay txerq@" petka haskananq vor iranq petka vrvran sra nra het? TUUU, iskakanic es inch himar viravorakan themanner eq mech berum! no Davo well if it's my post that made you "angry" first of all i don't really give a damn what words you use or not... i was just "teasing" you and being "sarcastic" and 2ndly i'm not saying Armenian girls should "sleep around" if that's what you meant by "vrvral" jeez calm down... anyways i'm done with this it's getting too boring <_< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sev-mard Posted January 12, 2004 Report Share Posted January 12, 2004 bayts, if you have had sex or "done things" with khetot girls how are you any better? this is my question.... I'm just trying to better understand your thinking. What you think "can" be considered as admirable, and clean, but if you're not living the ideals you're preaching, isn't that hypocritical? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheekY Posted January 12, 2004 Report Share Posted January 12, 2004 ok i said i'm done but... i'm not a hoe and i don't sleep around and never would... so please don't try to "save me" or teach me anything or anyone else... what are you a messenger from God? you're the one who needs saving... being "open minded" doesn't make someone a bad person and hey if you were so "religious" and "afraid" of God you wouldn't fool around with dose dirty women would ya? i think they're gonna close this thread soon lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasun Posted January 12, 2004 Report Share Posted January 12, 2004 i think they're gonna close this thread soon lol good thinking skittles, they just might Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THOTH Posted January 12, 2004 Report Share Posted January 12, 2004 Thats right DAVO - nothing wrong at all. Sex is good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheekY Posted January 13, 2004 Report Share Posted January 13, 2004 i think before somewhere i said it's ok to do it if you're in a serious relationship i'm not talking about casual sex with someone you just met up at a bar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nairi Posted January 13, 2004 Report Share Posted January 13, 2004 Davo, as reluctant as I am to respond to you, I must ask you: what's wrong with NOT marrying? Why can't a couple be in a serious relationship and not marry? I'd rather not post stuff about my family on the forum, but I'll have to break that rule this time. My brother has been living with his girlfriend for over four years now. Just five months ago they had a beautiful (if I may say so myself ) daughter. They are neither married nor are they considering to do so for quite some time to come. Yet, they are very happy together and are definitely planning on expanding the family as time allows. Again I say: WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE! This is the 21st century!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheekY Posted January 13, 2004 Report Share Posted January 13, 2004 if you're not in a "serious relationship" you don't get married afterwards... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nairi Posted January 13, 2004 Report Share Posted January 13, 2004 Davo, first of all, I do not have a problem with people who marry in front of God or the mayor. It seems to me that you are the one who has the problem with couples not getting married. Second of all, my brother's girlfriend is a bnik Hayastantsi! Not that this has anything to do with anything, but it goes to show that there are unconventional Armenians (even from Armenia) out there. No member in her family has ever complained. In fact everyone is happy, including her two brothers. Even my grandmother send them her blessings!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THOTH Posted January 13, 2004 Report Share Posted January 13, 2004 Niri - I doubt that "living together" would be pasible without feminism..etc etc...you take so much for granted... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THOTH Posted January 13, 2004 Report Share Posted January 13, 2004 But Skitty, what can be a more sirious relationship then the one where the guy puts a nice ring on you`re finger and bages you to love him? PLEASE TELL ME?!! or in your case DAVO: "the money's on the table"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheekY Posted January 13, 2004 Report Share Posted January 13, 2004 sex with your loved one before marriage is not a sin or a crime or whatever. and since we're armenian and you don't want Armenian girls to become “whores” then all im trying to say is that Armenian (mostly hayastantsi) guys should be a bit more free and have fun with their own girlfriends otherwise Armenian girls see how nice and free and fun otars are and leave you for blacks mexicans etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nairi Posted January 13, 2004 Report Share Posted January 13, 2004 Thoth, this is totally off-topic, but I never said we should turn back time. Davo, one last thing: your comparison with couples not getting married with thieves, drug-users and people jumping off buildings is completely out of line, not to mention beyond ridiculous! How dare you compare my family to thieves?! Who the hell are you to say that? This is what I call complete and utter narrow-mindedness! Wake up!!! I'm not comparing you or your family to suicidal drug-using thieves just because you choose to believe in god, am I? So please don't tell me to wake up! And guess what? They both had (sexually active) relationships before getting together. As for 16/17-year-olds, again I ask you: who the hell are you to make jugdments on others? Just respect everyone for who they are and what they do and we'll all be happy. It's not like they're trying to take away your life or trying to influence your beliefs. All I ask of you is to do the same with others: don't force your beliefs on them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nairi Posted January 13, 2004 Report Share Posted January 13, 2004 Your brother knew that is was the women he wanted a family with and for she felt the same. If you had a little more experience in life you'd know that nothing is a guarantee except death and taxes. Neither my brother nor his girlfriend knew anything of the sort until they had lived together for more than four years. And even now it's not a guarantee they'll still feel the same about each other in a few weeks, months or years. Human behavior and life in general is not half as clear-cut as you like to portray it. Thank God some people are aware of this... Oh and by the way, aghber chem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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