THOTH Posted December 30, 2003 Report Share Posted December 30, 2003 Gamavor, I fear God for his Strenth and Power. GOD PUT US HERE AND CAN TAKE YOU BACK WIHTOUT EVEN GIVING A WARNING. REMEMBER THAT Obeying God is something thta i take pride in because HE IS THE PROVIDOR OF LIFE AND HE IS WHO WATCHES US EVERYDAY OF OUR LIVES. Vor dexa-marder ASVADZIN HENAZANTATOUN CHOUNIN, ASVADZIN VAKH CHOUNIN, ASVADZIN OUJ, ZARKAYATOUN YEV ZORUTOUN CHEN HAVADOUM YEV CHEN HASKANUM (remember that?) I see the Power and The Glory of God every day, Earthquakes, Floods....trying telling the people Of Iran that God Doesnt exist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.... Yah thats what I thought Asvadzin Parq em Dalis for Em Ganqes Abroumem, He Arroushkhatounes Asvadzin Kalis, YEV AMEN-MARD, DEGHA-MARD, AKHCHIC-MARD, BOLOR ASHKHARIN Gios is within all of us.......and Armenians Especially, for our fondness of the Church and our pride in the church I dont know every single scripture in the Bible, Nor would i pretend to know, But from what i have learned from my Father, What he has taught me in my life about Life and Where life begins and where life ends and What happenes in between, He has always taguth me ASVADZ MEDHA (ALLAH OUH AKBAR) To always keep in God, to keep him in my life....TO NEVER FORGET IT IS BY HIS WILL. And that My strength and Knowledge began and ends Wtih God sorry, didnt mean to rant...BUT THIS IS HOW STRONGLY I FEEL., Well - I wanted to stay out of this one - considering how I got basicaly no support when I commented on the feminism thread (BTW - looks like we've got a guy here for ya nairi...it can be just the way you aparently like it...) Interesting Mr Azhyem - that you speak to obeying your God and then give us examples of his wrath - destroying and killing 20,000 innocents in Iran etc...I suppose Bam must be some sort of Sodom eh? (some power & glory to be proud of eh?) Its interesting to me that you seem to have more of an Old Testament concept of God - fear, punishment, obeying laws etc...and then - of course - this idea that women are somehow subserviant to men - must obey eevn stricter covenants etc...how convienieeeeeent....oh well just observations....and I'll let the ladies fend for themselves on this one...but perhaps I'm wrong...maybe you should be prepared for some marraige offers (likely the gals [Nairi's?] father or brother will contact you...)... Edited by Sasun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormig Posted December 30, 2003 Report Share Posted December 30, 2003 Why don't we bring a rule to the forum to keep out religion unless people preach to others to do good or what not, which is just about all that all religions are good for? I'm getting sick of this "traditionalist" crap containing judgemental material or dictating people unreasonable, unethical things and don't want to interfere with your beliefs but can't stand it when your beliefs are waved at my face. Edited by Sasun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasun Posted December 30, 2003 Report Share Posted December 30, 2003 I have done some edits. No personal attacks please, and do not post off topic. There is a subforum for religon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExtraHye Posted December 30, 2003 Report Share Posted December 30, 2003 Rabiz guys are majer turn off for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angel4hope Posted December 30, 2003 Report Share Posted December 30, 2003 i second that extra jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamavor Posted December 31, 2003 Report Share Posted December 31, 2003 I don't understand why AzHyeM addresses me when speaking of God. Well, what can I say, I'm flattered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
az_hye_m Posted December 31, 2003 Report Share Posted December 31, 2003 First and foremost, I meant no dis-respect to anyone. Believe me when i say this: Bolorin Havadk yev khahabar-ner mishd em harkoum...ASVADZ VEGA..and I am honest when I say that. I didnt meant rant, and I appologize if I did. I am not perfect, nor do I pretend to be....Nor do I expect anyone to be perfect, thats not fair to anyone and that is not how God intended...I am merely a Man who believes in God; His Guidence and His Wisdom (yes, "He") What my point was and I will try to elaborate more, is that God is within all of us....Not just me or any of the posters here, but EVERYONE....now there will be those that do not accept...so beit their choice I am not a preacher, Nor would I want to be, actually, nobody would listen to me anyway when I expressed my "turn-offs" (and really, i dont dis-respect anyone that doesnt adhere to the same "turn offs" as mine) I was merely expressing an opinion and that is all. I wasnt expecting everyone to get all in a rant, nor was i expecting everyone to agree. So now it looks like stormig and Thoth hate me both...ohhhh well, what can you do??? THOTH: ARACH: he is NOT my God, HE IS GOD FOR ALL YEGROD: iF i DO NOT REPECT AND APPRECIATE WOMEN, than I DO NOT RESPECT AND APPRECIATE GOD I didnt judge you stormig, how can I...I dont even know you nor anyone here....ehhh well, its part of the package I suppose... <_< you're right stormig, I am a traditionalist, but everybody believes in some sort of tradition. and one last thing: whats an Al Nairi?... In any event.....I wish you all a Safe and Happy New Year, May 2004 bring in new beginnings and new prosperiies....God peace to all.... ASVADZ TZER-BOLROIN HED ALLAH MA'AKON Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armine3773 Posted January 2, 2004 Report Share Posted January 2, 2004 Turn OFF in Men- No Intelligence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
az_hye_m Posted January 2, 2004 Report Share Posted January 2, 2004 what are rabiz guys (or girls if they exist) anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THOTH Posted January 2, 2004 Report Share Posted January 2, 2004 And I never said I hated you BTW...though perhaps i shall refrain from going into a long rant myself concerning the utility(?) of religion in my eyes and related. But let me say - if you claim to respect women - and even if lets agree that there are differences between men and women - shouldn't you respect a woman to choose her own destiny - to be whatever type of person she wishes to be - without restrictions and with the same oppurtunities and considerations as a man? And to me a women who makes her own choices - and who suceeds in whatever she pursues (and this certainly includes being a mother and a housewife or whathave you) - well that to me is very sexy...but I have never felt the need to be intrerested in a subserviant women...I'm not very into dogs either...I mean I like them and all...but have never really much had a desire to own one.. I can fetch my newspaper on my own and such...no big deal... Edited by Sasun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormig Posted January 2, 2004 Report Share Posted January 2, 2004 They don't respect women; they respect wives. I was reading this book about an Egyptian woman's experiences, starting with her life in poverty and then on through marriage (female circumcision in early age), then prostitution and then finally jail and the death sentence for killing the guy who wanted to be her pimp. The woman's name was Firdaws and so was the name of the book, I think. Well, there was a line there that really got me - "All women are prostitutes in the eyes of men; wives just don't get paid anything." Not to forget that wives are supposed to be exclusive property that don't get paid anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vava Posted January 2, 2004 Report Share Posted January 2, 2004 "All women are prostitutes in the eyes of men; wives just don't get paid anything." Not to forget that wives are supposed to be exclusive property that don't get paid anything. I sincerely hope that there is a very narrow cross-section of men that actually feel this way. This type of old-world chauvanist attitude helps no one. <_< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormig Posted January 2, 2004 Report Share Posted January 2, 2004 Well, it was from the Egyptian woman's perspective. But I can't help seeing people that talk about the indispensability of the woman's chastity as such Egyptians... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
az_hye_m Posted January 2, 2004 Report Share Posted January 2, 2004 HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYBODY Ok, let me get this right out in the open: I DO NOT TREAT ANYONE LIKE DOGS Also, I did not say anyone had to agree to my views. And I dont believe I ever made the point of having everyone agree with me. I know that wont happen, its pointless to even consider such a thing. I there are thoise that agree, then: they do By the way Thoth, I never assumed any woman had to be anything but what they wanted...Im sure that they are many women here who think im a bastard (ya know who you are...lol (stormig)...lol) nor did I ever say that you should want what I want....it is up to you what you desire....Nobody else Secondly, I DO NOT CONSIDER WOMEN TO BE PROSTITUTES...I DONT KNOW WHERE THAT CAME FROM, BUT THAT IS NOT WHERE MY BELIEFS COME FROM. Am I a traditionalist, sure...I fwill never deny that Am i sexist, male-chauvenistic?....Well, ok yes....BUT MY VIEWS GO FAR BEYOND THESE ASPECTS AND ONLY REFLECT A PORTION OF WHAT MAKES ME: ME <_< What i will say...and, I hope this clarifies some of what has transpired here...I AM VERY CHAUVENISTIC OF HOW MEN SHOULD BE AS WELL....too often we see our Men acting and behaving with such ignorance and irresponsibility. I PROMISED TO GOD THAT I WOULD NOT BE THAT TYPE OF MAN, FOR IT HE WHO WE HAVE FRUSTRATED AND DISAPPOINTED One Aspect that I would like to point out is how our Men have been and are still Brutalizing our women in Our Home Land...Armenia it despises me to NO END how they have been brutally beaten and damaged by this violence. It hurts me that Our Men have succomb to this treatment and pathetic lunacy. Thankfully, it has reduced by some....THANKFULLY. I DONT WANT THAT FOR ANYONE, ARMENIAN, ARAB, ITALIAN, MALE, FEMALE OR OTHERWISE GOD NEVER GAVE US THE GIFT OF WOMAN AS A PUNCHING BAG, NOR ARE WE ALLOWED TO TREAT HER AS SUCH. MY FATHER NEVER DID IT, MY UNCLES NEVER DID IT, NOR HAVE ANY OF MY COUSINS, NOR MY BROTHER, AND NIETHER WILL I Yes, stormig, I respect Wives....I respect MotheRs also. I LOVE ALL WOMEN: WIVES, MOTHERS, SISTERS, COUSINS...WHAT HAVE YOU (NO MINORS PLEASE!!!! -- THERE ARE ENUFF MICHAEL JACKSONS IN THE WORLD...LOL ) I understand that its very hard to know or to acquant with anyone, especially over a forum such as this...its tough, I dont deny. I didnt want to rant agian like this, but i felt that my veiws were taken WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY OUT OF CONTEXT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
az_hye_m Posted January 2, 2004 Report Share Posted January 2, 2004 And Vava.....who wrote that women are to be prostitutes? YIKES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vava Posted January 2, 2004 Report Share Posted January 2, 2004 Well, I did not post it originally, but I belive it comes from a book about an Egyptian woman's experiences... nevertheless, if just one man believes this in the world, that is one man too many Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THOTH Posted January 3, 2004 Report Share Posted January 3, 2004 (edited) Turns offs.....hmmmmm, lets see: girls who DO NOT OBEY GOD-that bothers me even if Man doesnt Obey God girls who smoke girls who drink girls who are not feminine, lady-like (not that it bothers me, I love femininity in a woman--the more the merrier ) girls who have this ideal and attitude "I CAN DO ANYTHING A MAN CAN DO", God made us different for VERY GOOD REASONS girls with VERY short hair.....the longer the better for me VERYYYYY LONG NAILS (just let them look normal) girls that POUND ON MAKEUP (natural look is beautiful) GIRLS THAT ARE AFTER "THE ROCK" (NOT THE WRESTLER, THE DIAMOND RING... Ok, ok, typical guy, ya dont have to tell me I disagree that you are as liberal regarding women's choices as you just state. I mean you right away speak to women obeying God - and then you list perhaps what some of those things are...and of course you are implying other things - that your God suposedly decrees for women (not my God BTW...I aknowledge no God/s)... ...and another thing - to me - for anyone to make a claim that God is male is highly insulting and by definition ignorant. My religion speaks to male and female forces in equal balance...I have no trust for a male only God (and we can obviously see why...though at least he was looking out for the wife just a bit...)...still as far as I'm concerned both he and you have much maturing to do in regards to attitudes about the sexes...just my opinion... Edited January 4, 2004 by Sasun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gevo27 Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 (edited) Good forums guys,, first time posting on HYE FORUMS,, but great place,, have some cathcing up reading to do,, lol... Edited January 8, 2004 by gevo27 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angel4hope Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 welcome gevo....nice2 c u like the forum--im sure ull have fun here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valantina Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 - Careless - thoughtless <_< - SHY - too stricket - LONG HAIR-> - Big Headed lol - Show off - BORING - Sensitive <_< LoL - Offf Men Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hye_Acher Posted February 13, 2004 Report Share Posted February 13, 2004 Guys who have feelings Big time TURN OFF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THOTH Posted February 13, 2004 Report Share Posted February 13, 2004 Guys who have feelings Big time TURN OFF What? Shame on you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyebruin Posted February 13, 2004 Report Share Posted February 13, 2004 Guys who have feelings Big time TURN OFF i'm surprised you say that and saddened!! girl with that attitude you can't even 'blame' the guy who'll break your heart..you're inviting heartache by thinkin that way!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hye_Acher Posted February 13, 2004 Report Share Posted February 13, 2004 (edited) What? Shame on you! No no no no Tooth shame on you ... Look at it this way. Guys who dont have feelings or pretend they dont then it will never be broken or can hardly get broken.... now imagine a guy who has feelings=the girl has to watch out every word she says now lets look at a guy who doesnt have feelings=the female says whatever is in her mind... he'll listen (or not) but either way he wont get hurt PERFECT HUH???? Now do you see my point? Good Day Edited May 31, 2004 by Hye_Acher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angel4hope Posted February 14, 2004 Report Share Posted February 14, 2004 here's a new turn off...men who have to put other men down in order to make themselves feel better and men who think that they are god's gift to mankind.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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