THOTH Posted March 27, 2003 Report Share Posted March 27, 2003 LOG - wel thats fine/understadable - but making a comment that the thought of a black person as a partner making you vomit is a bit stronger the just having a preference. I apologize if you think I was being nasty - but that comment of yours did bother me. Personally for me - I find interacting with people of different nationalities/races/nations very stimulating and a great learning experience. I love to be exposed to new/different perspectives. And I would love to have had the oppurtunity to have experienced (sexually and relationship wise) a more racially diverse set of women. One day you might regret that you didn't avail yourself the oppurtuity to experience more with others different from you - then again maybe not - but don't just categorically reject such...thats all I'm tryin to say. I do understandc what you are saying about preferences and being attracted to certain visual characteristics and such (I'm pretty easy/open myself in that regard...). I once had a girlfriend who use to sometimes go out with black guys (before meeting me...well mostly I think...) - and I know she was attracted/interested in the "list" size issue (turned out to not always be the case it seemed...we were very open about our past [and sometimes ongoing/concurrent] experiences - etc). Anyway she voiced a similar perspective to you (without the extreme vomit comment) - that she was attracted (sexually) - but not so much otherwise (from more or less a physical attraction perspective) and couldn't see a long term settling down type of thing (more difficult culturally and otherwise than you might imagine...in fact I really admire those adventurous sorts who forge relationships outside of their race - they really face many hurdles and such...). Anyway, of course after she met me there was no question of going back! LOL Actually it was very difficult moving on from her...we both had a very hard time giving up the physical aspects of our relationship well after all the rest was gone...even months after we broke up she would still show up (with a bottle of wine...and sometimes a ****o...!) and want to get amorous...which was Ok - but dangerous..we ended up getting back together a few times before I finally so no and thats final etc...again it was very tough to do...the sex was definatly very good...(sorry for drifting off topic a bit...though it goes back to a point I think I made much earlier in this thread - treat people right - physically and otherwise - pay attention to their needs - and you should have no worrys...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted March 27, 2003 Report Share Posted March 27, 2003 quote:Originally posted by 564312:dl ur comments are so distasteful with so much interested antagonism towards blacks..WHY if we have to generalize…first look at yourself mr. K-K-K you are dark, midget and your back is covered with hair up to your neck.Well, I for one thought he asked a perfectly valid question ... he hasn't really said what he himself believes and that is not relevant here anyway. Why is it that you don't see white males and black females? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THOTH Posted March 27, 2003 Report Share Posted March 27, 2003 Not true - and neither is most of what dl says. Sure it may be true for some - but I know several white male - black women couples, and at least one is a marraige with children - and I've seen others so they do exsist. Sure the preponderence is the other way - and for some of the reasons that have been alluded too (and some is just rebelliosness/curiosity etc white gal being with a black man...and a certain "status" or feeling of conquest/achievement whatever for black guys to "get" a white gal "prize" or such. Still - for dl to characterize black women as (for lack of a better term) "rough" and not needing tenderness etc - is just not universally true. In college I was fairly good friends with two black gals (as well as having some very good black male friends) and they were basically just like any other gals of their age (concening guys & such and attitudes..). I went out with one of them a bit - but it never got beyond that - we were mostly friends...I did take her home once to meet the folks (just to piss them off/upset them). I think a lot of the supposed differences that dl alludes too are more class differences rather then just race based cultural differences...and even if people are different - so what? Why are we even talking about this anyway - is there realy some problem/threat/danger to Armenians? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiner Posted March 27, 2003 Report Share Posted March 27, 2003 Thoth,You are right about the class differences. What I said applies more and more the lower in class you go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiner Posted March 27, 2003 Report Share Posted March 27, 2003 ... and also I am not speaking from the point of view of a person who doesn't like black women, on the contrary I do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fadi Posted March 27, 2003 Report Share Posted March 27, 2003 This thread is just becoming disgrace for this forum. Yes, there is very much more couples consisting of a white women and a black man as hell more. But that has a little to do with the size of the thing. It has everything to do with society. Girls in general are less obsessed by the appearence of the man, then the man for the appearence of the women. Beauty is not rational, you find someone beautyfull based on the standards of the society you live in, in the 16-17 centuries, a beautifull women was weighting no less then 70 kg, now what a beautifull women is for our society is someone suffering from anorexia. In our society, a beautifull women, is a white women, thats what has been implamented in us, thats what by our society has been considered as attractive, on the other hand, a beautifull man, still is less standarsized, so a black guy is not taken off from the list, like a black girl is. Its just a question of society and what it percieve as beautiful, nothing more or less. One last note, this topic is becoming out of control with many racistic comment that does not respect the rules of hyeforum. So please guy's control yourself, or Uncle Domino will come to spank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THOTH Posted March 27, 2003 Report Share Posted March 27, 2003 Hey Tigrannes - I've never claimed that my list is holy! LOL And it is you who exhibits a holier then thou attitude - not me. I am not suggesting that others must believe as I do and such - but it is certainly clear to me that those who hold racial prejudices are the ones with the problem and not the other way around.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormig Posted March 27, 2003 Report Share Posted March 27, 2003 quote:Originally posted by THOTH:I am not suggesting that others must believe as I do and suchAnd we can see who does. :hint: :hint: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
564312 Posted March 27, 2003 Report Share Posted March 27, 2003 menk hayers el enkan spitak enk vor..vonc vor zyun...hima el nstac guyneri kongres enk anum. asa sirt@ mardu makur u spitak lini voch te sev sat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THOTH Posted March 27, 2003 Report Share Posted March 27, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Domino:...on the other hand, a beautifull man, still is less standarsized, so a black guy is not taken off from the list, like a black girl is. Its just a question of society and what it percieve as beautiful, nothing more or less.Domino - I understand fully what you are saying - but it is more then just this - more then just appearences... ...as for black women - well their are many who are absolutly stunning looking. The prettiest/sexiest gal I ever have seen/known in my life was black as coal (with a face & body to absolutley die for! - yeah she was a bit haughty about it - but actually had a very nice personality and was pretty friendly in general...too bad her boyfriend at the time was some mongo pro-football player! ..not that I would have had any chance with her anyway...). And did you happen to see Hale Berry in "Monsters Ball"? I loved that top when he picked her up while she was walking down the road...mmmmm...(and my wife certainly noted my attentiveness to certain scenes in the movie! LOL)...anyway my ultimate preference (in terms of sexy looks) is definately oriental women...a certain type/look really...(not overly "rounded" but more sleek and petite...) but if I go into any detail I think I would abut the censorship rules of the site! LOL Of course I find Armenian woemen very attractive as well...and Turkish gals for that matter (there are several Turkish gals that I know locally that are total unquestionable knock-outs! ..and they are definitely more then a little stuck up about their looks! LOL - but again are friendly with me...I'm just a friendly guy!...frankly I think they might be a bit scared of me though...with the "Armenian thing"...they sometimes seem uncomfortable...LOL)...doesn't matter really the nationality...they are all/can be beuatiful! I think the issue of what women find attractive in men is more complex (like you allude too) - less strictly with looks per se...though you must admit - many black men are athletic and in good shape and I can certainly understand why women would find this attractive - beyond even any "list" issues...(which again is sometimes exaggerated...pun intended...) and others have spoke here about the different attitudes towards women/sex etc that some black men have/project- and perhaps this plays a part (gals find the forewardness/attention attractive...)...who knows - I don't think it is any one thing - nor do I think that these factors are universal and really generalizable. In any event we should respect an individuals choices no matter what they are (dating/sexual/whatever preference...). I mean we don't like when others critisize the choices we make. We think - how can they know where I am at, what I know, what I want...etc - so we should respect others to make their own decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady of grace Posted March 27, 2003 Report Share Posted March 27, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Domino:... on the other hand, a beautifull man , Men are usually referred as handsome. Beautiful is for women. I get disturbed if I hear “beautiful man” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted March 27, 2003 Report Share Posted March 27, 2003 Hey Tig, I think you are in serious need of some chocolate milk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THOTH Posted March 27, 2003 Report Share Posted March 27, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Sip:Hey Tig, I think you are in serious need of some chocolate milk. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!! No doubt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady of grace Posted March 27, 2003 Report Share Posted March 27, 2003 THOTH.. Are you a politician or do you have a self-esteem problem? Either you talk about your intimate relationships or which chick is hot or not. I know one thing, a real confident man is usually humble and less opinionated. A real man, talks less and observes much… I just stated my opinion, that’s all. Think global and don’t take things too personal. There is a saying: Opinions are a** h**** and everybody has one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fadi Posted March 27, 2003 Report Share Posted March 27, 2003 quote:Originally posted by lady of grace: quote:Originally posted by Domino:... on the other hand, a beautifull man , Men are usually referred as handsome. Beautiful is for women. I get disturbed if I hear “beautiful man” Ehehe... That proves you are new here, no one correct what I write. :-) Thoth, I have no problem with black women or asiatics, I just refered to the fact that beauty is implamented by our society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fadi Posted March 27, 2003 Report Share Posted March 27, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Sip:Hey Tig, I think you are in serious need of some chocolate milk. <img border="0" alt="[eek]" title="" src="smilies/eek.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[rolleyes]" title="" src="smilies/rolleyes.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[shocked]" title="" src="smilies/shocked.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[spit]" title="" src="smilies/spit.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[lol]" title="" src="smilies/lol.gif" />You won't believe if I tell you that I was searching this picture yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khodja Posted March 27, 2003 Report Share Posted March 27, 2003 My experience is that men who are constantly bragging about their conquests of wily females are hiding something. Real men do not constantly brag about their conquests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fadi Posted March 27, 2003 Report Share Posted March 27, 2003 quote:Originally posted by hagarag:My experience is that men who are constantly bragging about their conquests of wily females are hiding something. Real men do not constantly brag about their conquests.My experience is that Armenians who are constantly bragging about their genealogy trees and their Armenian blood are hiding something. Real Armenians do not constantly brag about their Armenianism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khodja Posted March 27, 2003 Report Share Posted March 27, 2003 Domino, I do not claim to be a "real Armenian" nor would I choose to be. I gave up on being a "real Armenian" about 25 years ago. I am a citizen of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigrannesIII Posted March 27, 2003 Report Share Posted March 27, 2003 quote:Originally posted by THOTH:lady of grace - I'm very sorr that you feel so strongly - you never know you might be missing out....etcmi lsi iran, thoth@ shad aboush e vorovodehev panm@ chgite. inke chi mtatsoum och mi srboutyan masin, nouynisk Astsu. an miayin amerigatsi e, miayin odar e, hay chi. inchou thoth@ hos e? yes al chgitem. he is too strange, even for a liberal american. i've found politically i'm quite liberal and i personally don't care what americans or other odars do, whom they marry, what they do for marriage or before marriage, if they do drugs, etc- that's their business, i have no place to make criticisms. Only making sure Armenians keep with the traditional ways, that's all I care about when looking at what other people do (unfortunately you will find the majority of spiurkahays on this site to live far more like the odars around them). I hate when someone like him acts like they know what's best for Armenians. It's that type of arrogance that causes the rest of the world to hate his people, the Americans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harut Posted March 27, 2003 Report Share Posted March 27, 2003 quote:Originally posted by TigrannesIII:inke chi mtatsoum och mi srboutyan masin, nouynisk Astsu.i didn't know that blacks are descendants of the devil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigrannesIII Posted March 27, 2003 Report Share Posted March 27, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Harut: quote:Originally posted by TigrannesIII:inke chi mtatsoum och mi srboutyan masin, nouynisk Astsu.i didn't know that blacks are descendants of the devil.i didn't say blacks, i said thoth holds nothing holy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azat Posted March 28, 2003 Report Share Posted March 28, 2003 quote:Originally posted by hyebruin:I don't think "hyeforum" is the place to share sexual experiences and compare notes and what not! for those kind of discussions there's the "sexforum" I'm sure somewhere out there floating around...and I agree people can get a little insensitive and might I say racial??!!! in their comments...yeah, I don't like the way some people express their dislikes or likes for that matter...but, I move on!! and don't claim to be the moral/ethics patrol! people need to relllllaaaaax already, and STOP sharing their sexual fantasies...dial some 900 number or have a beer party where this kind of talk will be more welcome! Thank you Bruin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyebruin Posted March 28, 2003 Report Share Posted March 28, 2003 quote:Originally posted by hagarag:, I do not claim to be a "real Armenian" nor would I choose to be. I gave up on being a "real Armenian" about 25 years ago. I am a citizen of the world.Hagarag,I can sort of see where you're coming from...sort of!! because we're all human beings (citizens of the world) as you say, before anything else! but, being a "real armenian" as you put it (not quite sure what your definition is here) is not about making allllll the other armenians happy! (I do say that with some caution! such as marrying a turk or something like that--which is inherently "bad" for lack of a better word) but, it IS about how you connect with your culture regardless of what some armenians think of you (or look down on, as some of us love to do)~~~it's about having pride (the non-arrogant kind!) in your culture and not necessarily conforming to what the majority thinks is moral,and "good"~~~~seems to me like you've had some bad experiences within the community (from your other posts) and decided to rebel, or something?!?! but, it's not about them, it's about you! don't worry, it doesn't matter to me how you think, just wanted to point that out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THOTH Posted March 28, 2003 Report Share Posted March 28, 2003 log/hagarag - funny that you would be of the opinion that stating ones opinion on a forum such as this is somehow problimatic.. ..and what "conquests"? etc hagarag - you least of all here should be critical of anything one says of a personal nature... log - obviously you need to get out more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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