THOTH Posted March 28, 2003 Report Share Posted March 28, 2003 Azat/hybruin - I have not discussed any fantasies or such - just imparted some of my experiences/beliefs in an attempt to educate a bit or a least provide another perspective. And plenty of others have made comments concerning celebs etc that they admire - why single me out? I'm sorry i you find my comments too racy or such - not my intent per se.. and as for racisim - well I do feel strongly about it - and have seen its ugly face. I reduse to tolerate it...even though I'm a very tolerating type in general... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyebruin Posted March 28, 2003 Report Share Posted March 28, 2003 I don't think "hyeforum" is the place to share sexual experiences and compare notes and what not! for those kind of discussions there's the "sexforum" I'm sure somewhere out there floating around...and I agree people can get a little insensitive and might I say racial??!!! in their comments...yeah, I don't like the way some people express their dislikes or likes for that matter...but, I move on!! and don't claim to be the moral/ethics patrol! people need to relllllaaaaax already, and STOP sharing their sexual fantasies...dial some 900 number or have a beer party where this kind of talk will be more welcome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormig Posted March 28, 2003 Report Share Posted March 28, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Domino: quote:Originally posted by hagarag:My experience is that men who are constantly bragging about their conquests of wily females are hiding something. Real men do not constantly brag about their conquests.My experience is that Armenians who are constantly bragging about their genealogy trees and their Armenian blood are hiding something. Real Armenians do not constantly brag about their Armenianism. LOLOLOLOLOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyebruin Posted March 28, 2003 Report Share Posted March 28, 2003 Originally posted by THOTH:[QB]Azat/hybruin - I have not discussed any fantasies or such - just imparted some of my experiences/beliefs in an attempt to educate a bit or a least provide another perspective. And plenty of others have made comments concerning celebs etc that they admire - why single me out? I'm sorry i you find my comments too racy or such - not my intent per se.. This is what I mean about reeeelaaaaxing! I did not single anyone out! If I chose to (which is not MY style!) I would have put a name in there; don't really care about who the author was particularly, just the content! that's the problem with the world...people making something out of nothing...but, seriously, don't you all agree that that cutting back on a few of the comments is appropriate? We can share relationship experiences for 'educational' purposes...but, please no sex ed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THOTH Posted March 28, 2003 Report Share Posted March 28, 2003 Well truly, any "sex ed" would likely have to be conducted in person...LOL (or at least accompanied by pictures and/or a demonstration...)...and so if your were'nt talking about me just who might have you been refering to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady of grace Posted March 28, 2003 Report Share Posted March 28, 2003 THOTH: quote:log - obviously you need to get out more... that was good THOTH.. You see I know men, I told you you have a self-esteem problem. I spoke the truth and you just wanted to get back at me. Another thing I know for sure. The number of partners people have in life tells you how insecure they are to constantly search for something/someone all their lives. That's totaly OK from late teens to mid/late twenties, because you need to do that to know what you want. If it continues for long, then good luck! This is not directed to you, so don't get sensative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THOTH Posted March 28, 2003 Report Share Posted March 28, 2003 log - so wrong. I have no self estem problem whatsoever - far from it - I am very secure in who I am - imensly so in fact. (not saying I'm perfect or such - far far from it)...lets just say that I believe myself to be supremely "adjusted"/even keeled whatever... Another thing - I'm not "getting back at you" - please...nor has anything you have said really upset me or anything - exactly how have I "got back at you" and for what? I really don't understand. Just having some fun. And believe me - you are really off the mark about me... As for multiple partners & such - well - if sex is a good think (I think that it is) - lots of sex is even better - no? LOL Of course it is not so simple - and again it is much more then this (relationships etc versus "just" sex - etc) - believe me - I don't really fit the profile of the type of person of which you speak - and I understand the drawbacks and perhaps deficincies of a person who is so driven - but at the same time I can appreciate the flip side of such as well...and I certainly wish that I might have had more of such expericnes whicl young! But now I am old(er) and my lifestyle is of course much different...still I think most people are too hung up on this whole chastity/purity thing or whatever. they'd be better off letting loose more and enjoying themselves...the whole world would have much less problems if all the sexual tension and various complexes associated with sex (or lack therof) coud be lessend/eliminated...etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady of grace Posted March 28, 2003 Report Share Posted March 28, 2003 OK thoth.. I understand and respect what you say. case closed.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyebruin Posted March 29, 2003 Report Share Posted March 29, 2003 quote:Originally posted by THOTH:Well truly, any "sex ed" would likely have to be conducted in person...LOL (or at least accompanied by pictures and/or a demonstration...)...and so if your were'nt talking about me just who might have you been refering to?that's funny! good comeback about the "tutoring session"--- ~~~FYI: I refer to the CONTENT posted, not the AUTHOR! we can allll disagree/love/hate what someone says---that is different from what we "think" about or "feel" about the person? get my point? we're all friends in here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyebruin Posted March 29, 2003 Report Share Posted March 29, 2003 here's a funny joke i heard recently...it fits real well in here: you've heard the saying: once you go black you never go back?well, this white guy (black audience) was trying to show off and started out confident trying to win over the black women by saying: once you go white, you go right back!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiner Posted March 29, 2003 Report Share Posted March 29, 2003 quote:Originally posted by hyebruin: you've heard the saying: once you go black you never go back?Yes. And it is directly contradicted by the saying " it's like turkey; sometimes you want a little white meat, sometimes you want a little dark meat" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THOTH Posted March 29, 2003 Report Share Posted March 29, 2003 quote:Originally posted by hyebruin:that's funny! good comeback about the "tutoring session"--- Why thank you. I'm glad you didn't get all huffy and think that I was seriously making an offer or such (I wasn't)...however if I was I would be certain to get my wife's permission first....for educational purposes...of course...LOL quote:Originally posted by hyebruin:~~~FYI: I refer to the CONTENT posted, not the AUTHOR! we can allll disagree/love/hate what someone says---that is different from what we "think" about or "feel" about the person? get my point? we're all friends in here Yeah understood. I feel the same way. I have no personal issues with anyone here really...Hey I like you all (for the most part...) - regardless of our differences of opinion...by and large I think we have a pretty good bunch of folks here...even Tigger is alright by me...and besides - you sound really cute! LOL - actually I do like your attitude towards most things in general...you sound like a fun person - and that is the way to be - IMO - so don't ever change - ya hear... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THOTH Posted March 29, 2003 Report Share Posted March 29, 2003 quote:Originally posted by hyebruin:here's a funny joke i heard recently...it fits real well in here: you've heard the saying: once you go black you never go back?well, this white guy (black audience) was trying to show off and started out confident trying to win over the black women by saying: once you go white, you go right back!! <img border="0" alt="[lol]" title="" src="smilies/lol.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[lol]" title="" src="smilies/lol.gif" />LOL - that is funny. I once had a secretary who basically only dated black guys (and had a beuatiful little girl with one..whom she subsequantly lived with). She used to say that "...never go back" all the time (and was entirely serious about it. dl - I'm not sure your Turkey preference analogy really applies (for everyone). And truly I would hope that peoople could really see beyond race and other generalizations and just consider the person as an individual. Its amazing what you find when you open yourself up to accepting someone as a unique individual and not just a "something".... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natalik Posted March 31, 2003 Report Share Posted March 31, 2003 heey guyz.. Here what i think (Surely, if u are interested).. I am an armenian girl and i don give a *** what colour is the guy i shoosed, though i ll tell you, none of 'em were soooooo dark as we are talking about inhere.. For me the colour and ethnic belingness really don matter. the only thing i care about is my religion that i would never ever change and the other acpects are not soo important for me.. and i think (and not only me but the majority of hayastantsis also) that the time for carying the ethnic belongness, colour, race, religion blongness and bla bla not soo far strongly matter for,, and you guys (the ,majority of the diaspora armenians) really beleive and hope that armenians are , have been abd will always be like 100 yearz back.. NOOOO... it wont do.. But sure, when/if you, guyz, all the diaspora armenians arrive back in Armenia then it would be another different topic to talk about... sooo WE ll see..For most of us (Armenian girls) the most important quality that men should have or acquire is to be lav mard, cheers, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khodja Posted March 31, 2003 Report Share Posted March 31, 2003 Natalie, Even if 1/2 of the diaspora Armenians go back to Armenia, it will NEVER be the same. We have been socialized with different cultures, mostly of the West. We will revolutionize the thinking of the ROA Armenians to be more like the West (Europe). Yet there will be clashes between various diasporans and with the ROA Armenians, due to their different socialization processes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AEKDB Posted March 31, 2003 Report Share Posted March 31, 2003 I must say I am truly shocked of some of the responses I have read today. I am married to an armenian woman, so it disgust me how some of you armenian men think. This makes you no better then a black, white, etc racist that conforms to closed mindedness in their own separate societies. I have enjoyed learning about your rich history, the vast empire that Armenia had, and how the armenian bible is like the second closiest translation of the bible, among other things. It really saddens me about how cultures such as yours, mine and the jews have gone through so much turmoil in history that we still haven't learned anything yet. If anything it has gotten worse with racism..killing each other, and a whole array of things. I love my brother-in-laws as if they were my blood brothers and vice versa. Color has never been the issue. If there were issues..atleast it would be something important..for example..Treating their sister with respect and love. Which that is important with any family and relationship. So I ask you..why isn't anyone posted the question of an armenian woman being with a Turk..etc. If you are going to put just black. I think you need to broaden the spectrum. All in all.. no matter what I read on this forum. I repect my wife's culture and enjoying learning as much as I can including the language. People should really think before they state a question and answer. No matter what people say about each other..we are all brothers and sisters, and nothing can change that wether you believe it or not. It all goes back to the city of Babal. When you face God, do you think he is going to care what color you are..what race you married???? No he isn't he is going to judge you on your faith ...deeds as a human being and how you treat people. So if it doesn't matter to the Almighty ......tell me why the hell should it matter to us?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AEKDB Posted March 31, 2003 Report Share Posted March 31, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Sip: quote:Originally posted by 564312:dl ur comments are so distasteful with so much interested antagonism towards blacks..WHY if we have to generalize…first look at yourself mr. K-K-K you are dark, midget and your back is covered with hair up to your neck.Well, I for one thought he asked a perfectly valid question ... he hasn't really said what he himself believes and that is not relevant here anyway. Why is it that you don't see white males and black females?I have seen plenty of black women with white/nonblack men...just depends on where you are. It's so comical how some of you believe in these sterotypes. Some of you haven't been anywhere but three states/towns from where you live and you talk about black men like they are animals. There are A**H**** in every race people. From Armenian, Black, White, Asian etc. I am so blessed that my brother-in-laws aren't as crap minded as some of you are. Some of you go through life and haven't learned one thing, yet you base your tongue on stupid comments that you don't know anything about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khodja Posted March 31, 2003 Report Share Posted March 31, 2003 Two of the sharpest upcoming movie producer/directors, the Hughes brothers, are the product of an Armenian mother and a black father. One of the smartest and wealthiest industrialists in Moscow, David Wong, is the product of an Armenian mother and a Chinese father. Chess champ Kasparov is the product of an Armenian mother and a Jewish father. Ditto San Francisco college president Peter Gabel. Some twenty years ago a group of Armenians went to a famous Armenian restaurant in New York City. This restaurant was extremely busy that day and this Armenian group had to wait at the entrance for a table. Close to the entrance door were a family of Blacks thoroughly enjoying themselves. After about 1/2 hour one of the more darker- skinned Armenian ladies stated "Ays sev shoonereh yep bede ertan, vor menk nestink." Within 15 minutes the table of blacks arose to leave. The light-skinned black patriarch of the black family approached the dark-skinned Armenian lady and state "Amot kezi, digin. Sev shooneh toon es. Toon inzmeh deha sev es." It is ridiculous for Armenians to make comments about Blacks, since may of us are darker than many American blacks. Blacks now produce people like Colin Powell while we are producing members of an Armenian mafia in Glendale. Amot to the racist Armenians here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyebruin Posted March 31, 2003 Report Share Posted March 31, 2003 quote:Originally posted by hagarag:Blacks now produce people like Colin Powell while we are producing members of an Armenian mafia in Glendale. Amot to the racist Armenians here.[/QB]ok. let's not get carried away here!!! if you compare armenians with someone like Powell, at least do it in an unbiased way! and compare with the intelligent, hardworking armenians before you run your mouth and disgrace us to someone/people visiting here who have no clue who the heck the armenians are!! hmmm, let's see how many times do I see a black murder suspect or rapist or robber on TV and how many times do I see an armenian in the same dilemma? I think the news speaks for itself! there is good and bad in everyone but you distort the perception of reality by making unparallel comparisons...most armenians are good and hardworking people who mind their own business and get along well with other races in their neighborhoods...we don't need to put the spotlight on the few scums who don't represent our people!! why don't you compare Colin Powell to someone like Governor Deukmejian? or William Saroyan? respectable people like that? you must share in the 'amot' here for putting armenians down---which makes you no different than the ignorant armenians, or is it only ignorant when you attack other groups and not your own?-- that makes no sense! we are wayyyyy better off than the white folks! since we're not the ones who brought the blacks over and started slavery in america! we've been discriminated as much as they have...so we don't owe them anything except for common respect which everyone is entitled to!~~~interesting how no one mentions the nation of islam and their leader Farrakhan? the guy hates whites and probably anyone else who looks white! how come no one's saying 'amot' to him?~~~ some of these arguments are so ridiculously lopsided!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khodja Posted April 1, 2003 Report Share Posted April 1, 2003 Hyebruin, I do not discount Black racism or bigotry, as I have been subjected to it. One former supervisor told me that The Armenian Genocide didn't happen in this county so he was not interested in it. This man lives in a city with a large Armenian citizenry.Although I am primarily heterosexual, I have on occasion been involved in homosexual relations. A woman who had a "fatal attraction" to me at work stalked me for months and revealed this at work when I rejected her advances and took up with one of the slinky secretaries. Do you know that the Blacks and Hispanics were the ones who harassed me the most? But the subject here is Armenian racism. Two wrongs don't make a right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyebruin Posted April 1, 2003 Report Share Posted April 1, 2003 Originally posted by hagarag: oh my goodness I got more than I asked for!! well, if I can remember....ahhh, racism! it's ugly and unhealthy and we all have tendencies for it---important to admit that---yes! I know what you mean! some armenians can get real nasty and mean! which makes me want to disappear from the scene if I happen to be there!! but, then again it's not like there's one group who's the perpetual victim! we all share the pain and the blame! ---couldn't believe my eyes today! I saw this profile online (won't say which one!) and this was (her?) quote basically: turk killer and hate anyone who's not armenian!!! my eyeballs were popping out! I can sort of see where the 1st part was coming from! but, the 2nd part??? that was disturbing----too sad and too extreme!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THOTH Posted April 1, 2003 Report Share Posted April 1, 2003 AEKDB - Welcome to the forum. I feel exactly as you do. I find that I'm even agreeing with hagarag's latest post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khodja Posted April 1, 2003 Report Share Posted April 1, 2003 Hyebruin, Unfortunately we have this element among us. I am 1/8 Assyrian and 7/8 Armenian and some Armenians treat me like I am an odar. If you do not pass their litmus tests as an Armenian, they will want to eliminate you. With the great Armenian diaspora, however, Armenians will be very different and have different views. I am sure that some among us would want to eliminate me on the spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khodja Posted April 1, 2003 Report Share Posted April 1, 2003 I was dating an American woman of Irish/English background. We were vactioning in Newport Beach and took a ferry boat. Across from us were an Armenian couple speaking Armenian. I greeted them in Armenian. They were shocked, as I don't look very Armenian. They were not pleased that I was cuddling up to an odar and gave my girlfriend a dirty look. Shortly after, in the restaurant where we were having lunch, she was very upset. She stated, "Were they upset because you were with a white woman?" At that moment I realized that in California Armenians are not considered white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyebruin Posted April 1, 2003 Report Share Posted April 1, 2003 quote:Originally posted by hagarag:Hyebruin, Unfortunately we have this element among us. I am 1/8 Assyrian and 7/8 Armenian and some Armenians treat me like I am an odar. If you do not pass their litmus tests as an Armenian, they will want to eliminate you. With the great Armenian diaspora, however, Armenians will be very different and have different views. I am sure that some among us would want to eliminate me on the spot.I'm going to propose something here! maybe I'm not right on the mark, but! is it possible that it's your "attitude" and how you carry yourself that would make some want to "eliminate you on the spot" to put it in your own words? Even armenians born and raised inside Armenia cannot claim to have "pure" 100% armenian blood! with history and all the conquests and the attacks by the neighboring countries and people immigrating and emigrating back and forth...and if you're only 1/8 non-armenian (as far as you know!) that is not the reason... I seriously doubt that that's why you've not been treated fairly...hey here's s funny story:a few years back I was at the mall shopping for some jewelery and the owner was armenian (hayastantsy) to be exact and I was talking to him and he was nice (40's-50's)...so then I casually mentioned something about a friend's jewelery and instead of the word friend, I used "girlfriend" just as is common in everyday language...oh my goodness!!! the guys' eyes were popping out and he looked seriously sick and disturbed!!! that was so funny, so I kept on carrying myself in my cool manner and was cracking up inside of how his misinterpretation of what I said sent shockwaves through his system! It was so fun...that look on his face...1st took me by surprise, then I had a hard time containing my laughter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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