Why do girls like black guys?

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[This message has been edited by artt (edited August 30, 2000).]

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Artt,

 

Just one question. Have you really finished Elementary School, or was it too hard for you?

 

[This message has been edited by MJ (edited August 30, 2000).]

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HA ha ha ha ha ha. Man that was a killer! You are so cool and funny at the same time!

I want to be just like you. It's a joke so don't jump up and down.

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You know, you may find it funny, but when I think of Armenia, and remember you, I just want to say "Voghpam kez Haiastan..."

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I think its best to ignore people like you who just talk and dont listen.

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LOL...why do I have this sinking feeling that art is really artur a.k.a. my nemesis..lol (I apologize if you're not, but you're just like him, I couldn't help drawing the comparison)

 

MJ...I completely agree with your views on Armenians and s-e-x related topics (see my post under ArmenianCleopatra)

 

(sidenote: garik, why does the page automatically replace the letters in that word with stars...for god's sake, most of us are mature people and can handle discussions like that)

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well, actually there is a list of words that being replaced with [...]. I'll remove 'sex' from that list . Anyway you're smart enough to type s-e-x instead of sex

 

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Gayane jan,

 

All I can say is amen to everything you have said!

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Gyane look what you wrote to me:

<<lol..how many times do i have to say this in different contexts: love has nothing to do with marriage..

 

You have to choose someone you're completely compatible with to even have a fighting chance for happiness in

marriage. And if this girl thinks that because of certain factors you're not compatible, trust me, that won't be an

issue that will disappear into the air once you're married. You marry for love, you're doomed. (While I completely

understand your situation and sympathize) that's my opinion.

 

Gayane>>

 

Now you are saying that black guys are better and more understanding than the Armenian guys! which understanding, which emotion are you talking about? which happiness are you talking about?

 

unfortunately the dutch girls have also this desease loving blacks, which means that there will be no happiness whith such a girl. I will reach ultimate happiness with a girl in Holland who doesn't like these blacks!

 

 

 

[This message has been edited by Iranyar (edited September 02, 2000).]

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Perfectly said Iranyar jan!

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artt jan we both are real men

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Iranyar joon,

You will never be able to stop it. I meen the "open-mindedness". Women, on their astral level, are more animalistic than men. You will never be able to convince them. You must control them using your male logic, which is more advanced. Use everything: threaten, blackmail...but never hit them. That's when they win. You must do it in a very carefully balanced way. Fulfill all their simple demands. Don't let them get bored. I meen if your relationship is too peaceful, make a foolish argue from nothing and get into a fake fury. And if she starts crying...you know what to do. Vigilant control of situation, that's it.

And this is how you deal with the blacks. If you think your girl is fond of blacks, beat one of them and let her see it. It really works.

If you want to be as "caring" as the blacks, do almost everything while having sex

But you can do all this if you're not in the US. Because people living there always like to try smth new being bored of standart comfort. Please, understand that US is an impire, like the Rome. Nobody was able to stop Kaligula. He stopped himself. Impires demolish themselves by "open-mindedness". Just let it go.

Arayzhm

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lol Berj jun,

 

once I was fallen in love with a girl, but she said, I don't want you because you are not black, I got upset, then she said you are a racist because you get upset!

 

who is racist, me or she, or those Zionist jews who made that god damn movie not without my daughter to let a half-baked chik, treat me like sh**?

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Iranyar joon,

What we have a lot in this world is GIRLS. Find another one. And be careful. This is how you do it. You're too emotional. Before confessing her your love, or even before your first date with her, examine everything connected with her. Her psycology, habits, way of life. And also, determine for yourself what are you going to do with her. I meen 1 night, 3 months or the life.

If she's fond of blacks you can't be serious about her, isn't it. Always define your steps before dating any girl. Make the grouping:

1. Girls

2. Bitches

3. Whores

That's how we do it in Yerevan

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Wow, let me introduce you our "Forum Pchycologist" - Berj....

He says he knows girls very well...lol

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Lol Berj duste äziz

again you said it.

 

we have these cathegories in Amsterdam:

 

1-girls who onley like blacks

2-girls who like blacks and drunk dutchmen

3-girls who like, blacks, drunk dutchmen, and maroccan drugs dealers

4-girls who onley like girls

5-girls who are not available at all

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Originally posted by Iranyar:

5-girls who are not available at all

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Iranyar joooooon,
Man you're fun! Let's define the sub-cathegories of the 5-th cathegory:
5-girls who are not available at all:
a-who onley like it on the boat
b-who onley like it with a goat

Man, Amsterdam is definitely gonna become the Gomorra of all the Bibles and Korans to come after the Apoclypse. Get out of there bacha. Those dams will never save them.

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Dear Gayane, I am replying to your referral to your posting on the subject of sexuality. I read it and I felt compelled to reply here, since the appropriate tread is closed. My vacation is almost over, and I am planning to talk for the last time in this forum, other than for information exchange purposes.

 

First, let me tell you that I commend your straightforwardness. If I would’ve not understood your motivations beyond raising this subject, I just would have said “Thank you for sharing it, but we don’t have to know it...”

 

I share pretty much all the views that Gevorg Grigorian has raised. Have only few things to add.

 

I think the sexual relationship is a complex one, and one that requires drawing very fine line between the acceptable and the non-tolerable.

 

I lot of the opinions expressed in the tread constitute just “machoism.” It is a very safe way to come up as “tasibov tghamard.” But the life is more complex, unless you live till the age of 33 (or further) at your papa’s house. Just kidding

 

I have to just tell you, that as much as I have studied the Armenian history, I haven’t found a lot of evidence that the Armenian society has ever been puritanistic, whether in medieval centuries or in modern, neither in Armenia, nor in Diaspora. I have frequently spoken to some elderly Armenian men, who have told me stories on the subject of the type of sexual games that the Armenian villagers have played in the late 19th century, to kill time. I have spent close to 20 years of my life around university campuses, being a student at Yerevan and Moscow State Universities, and having taught at UCLA and the University of Michigan. All of these universities always have enjoyed major presence of Armenian students. Never have had an impression that our youth has been any more puritanistic then the youth of any other nation. In most of the cases, it has been just enough to be away from home. Then everything may happen. I am not criticizing it. To me, it is fine, as long as a fine line is drawn. I am not going to share with the forum stories that I have witnessed, because I think it is of no consequence. The relationship between a man and a women, is normally a relationship between that man, that woman, and God. As far as I have understood the New Testament, and what Jesus and his disciples have preached, was a formula “One woman for one man.” Apparently, formulating their formula this way, they have found that the problem in the society was more with men’s excessive sexual urges, not the opposite. I don’t think your conservative opponents will be very fond of this formula. On the other hand, we learn from the New Testament that not only engaging in extramarital or premarital sexual acts are sins, but also desiring them. Apostle Paul himself has urged us, like him, not to engage in sexual acts at all. And he has added, “but if you cannot follow this advice, then engage only through marriage.” I don’t think a lot of your opponents would be fond of this formula, either.

 

I am not here to agitate sexual freedom, and my impression is that that’s not what you have tried to do, either. Neither I am a puritan to any degree.

 

But I want to emphasize that if a nation cannot grant the right of freedom to its individual members, men or women, that nation doesn’t deserve freedom itself. And of all things, I think women deserve the right to make these very personal decisions for themselves. And I don’t deny the right of men, if they chose so, to not marry these women, or not to respect them, etc. This is also their right. Everybody makes this decision for himself, too, but unfortunately some make that decision for the sake of the show. But I also want to add that you should not expect that men are going to grant women the right of this fundamental freedom. As far as I understand the Western societies, women have secured this right for themselves through a struggle, whether it is about voting rights, about enjoying as much sexual freedoms as the men do, or being paid equally for equal work.

 

I have known (not to be misinterpreted) quite significant number of Armenian girls/women in and out of Armenia, who have granted themselves more freedom than traditionally it has been granted to the Armenian women. In most of the cases, I have had not any less respect for them, then for the others. All depends on the personal qualities of each person. As many of them that I can trace, all have been able to marry much better Armenian men, than many traditional ones. Probably, just because they have learned to understand man better than the others. And don’t blame those, who express very strong opinions. In most of the cases they are doing it just for the sake of the show, in other cases from the fear. And many Armenian men still view their women as their property.

 

I think the only difference between today’s Armenia, and the one that I have seen somewhat a decade ago, is that a lot of things that were being done secretively are being done more openly. Besides the social conditions have gotten much worse. But things are not any different in Diaspora, either. I think enough of genralizations...

 

And I don’t want to separate the Armenian society in this sense. Other than Saudi Arabia, and similar countries, where adultery is being physically punished, I am not aware of many other societies, outside Armenia’s geographic vicinity, with such medieval views on the subject of sexual relationships. Unfortunately, though, it has adverse effects on the psychological, mental and spiritual health of the nation.

 

As to the Western societies, I have been living in US, and not in gettos, for close to a decade. I have been living in cities and areas, where the predominant population has been Irish, German, Anglo-Sax, etc. I have admired the strength of their families, their high moral values, and commitment to each other, once they have pledged commitment through marriage or casual mating (I speak with an ease about casual mating, because who am I to throw a stone?). This commitment is not resulted from a taboo, but from the freedom and choice. I think the opinions of the other side on the law morals of the Western, or better to say American society couldn’t be any further from the reality. America was founded by spiritual people, and on the grounds of the highest morals. Don’t judge about things by Hollywood movies! I have also, in a different context, made that mistake in the past...

 

There is another thing I would add. Spending enough time in many campuses, I have always been puzzled as why in the large picture, of all nationalities, the Armenian male students have always been the most incapable of finding mates This may sound sarcastic, but it is not. And I am saying this with some embarrassment, as an Armenian. I think, it is reflective of some psychological disorder... By the way, in my times, those who were the most incapable (I don’t mean physically), had the strongest puritanistic views... Have times changed so much as to prove myself being wrong?

 

Ok, let’s not discuss over the Internet, what probably should be discussed around the kitchen table, when kids are gone to bed...

 

 

 

 

[This message has been edited by MJ (edited September 06, 2000).]

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Originally posted by MJ:

I have frequently spoken to some elderly Armenian men, who have told me stories on the subject of the type of sexual games that the Armenian villagers have played in the late 19th century, to kill time.

the Armenian male students have always been the most incapable of finding mates .]

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MJ, sorry to answer to you posting, it was not addressed to me, but you're exagerating. "Sexual games that the Armenian villagers have played"-I think here you meen Vanadzor and the surrounding villages. Yes it's true, they do it until now and Vanadzorians are ill-famouse for this among all hayastatsis. Vanadzor is a fenomena and it is also an exception. What "games" the villagers played in Armenia of 19-th century can be traced in Hovhannes Toumanyan's "Anoush" poem with vendettas and everything.
And the thing about Armenian males being incapable of dating is simply false, especially for Moscow's MGU dormitory. Have you really been there? WE had 2 or 3 dates at a time. There weren't Westerners among them, however that was because the Russians are more faminine and not because we couldn't do it.

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MJ, thank you for that dose of sanity from an armenian man that I so desperately found myself in need of after reading what Berj had to say.

 

and Armen, Berj...whatever you choose to call yourself: it's taking a lot of self control on my part not to respond to your views with an argument (and you know my ability to argue). I'm choosing not to in part out of respect for Mr. Moderator because i wouldn't want to start another "shila plav" over this again. All that leads to is insults.

 

MJ, lol, it's interesting that my posting on the subject (especially with references to myself) should strike you as odd. I won't explain my reasons. I assure you, they're good ones

 

I'm a little saddened that MJ won't be joining us for a while. It's a loss to the forum. Had your stay been a little more lengthy, I would have had great hopes of "enlightenment" for Berj and like-minded Armenian gentlemen.

 

In any case, ciao for now

Gayane

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Originally posted by Gayane:


MJ, thank you for that dose of sanity from an armenian man that I so desperately found myself in need of after reading what Berj had to say....

it's taking a lot of self control on my part not to respond to your views with an argument and you know my ability to argue). I'm choosing not to in part out of respect for Mr. Moderator

"enlightenment" for Berj and like-minded Armenian gentlemen.
Gayane

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Gayane,
I could have nailed you to the tree for breaking the rules again, but, as smb. from the forum metioned to me once, girls have this axiomatic right to be forgiven, so enjoy your right...You welcome.

Remember this posting of your's:
"I think what men fail to realize is that there are so many sides to women, especially armenian women. We can be so many things all at once, and that's why you love us, that's why my guy loves me..."

So, there are lots of kinds of Armenian men. Conservative and liberal, machoes and non-machoes, moderates, modern, traditional, rabiz, rockers, half-breeds and pure-bloods, extremists... We also have libananahay, iranahay, hayastanci, siriahay, hunahay, amerikahay...territorial divisions. We have different professions, views and life-style and we also can be lots of things all at once.

Choose one of us and calm down. I'm so happy that MJ and Gevorg came to this forum so that you could see that we, the Armenian Men, have plenty of types.

Don't worry for Berj and like-minded Armenian gentlemen (wow, are we really?). We have our type of Armenian girls.

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Gayane,

 

I didn't say I found your statements odd, but to the contrary, claimed that I understand your motives.

 

And, BTW, I am still around. Just experienced a temporary drainage of energy, and cannot keep up with my previous intensity of posting messages

 

Berj, I think your latest position is a very smart and ethical one. Everyone should be entitled to his/her positions and choices in his/her personal life, but no one should cross other's personal territory.

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Originally posted by art:
I would like to know what some girls like in black guys????? I truly find it nastier than nasty!

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This is a folse question! First of all it assumes that girls really like blacks and then asks why. There is no such a thing girls liking blacks. Secondly the question assumes that it applies to Armenian girls too, which is folse too. Please Ara jun don't assume because "ass.u.me is really making an ass from u and me"


[This message has been edited by surorus (edited November 10, 2000).]

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I apologize Surorus. I misunderstood your post. My post is now history, please also delete the quotation of it from your follow-up.

 

 

[This message has been edited by Pilafhead (edited November 11, 2000).]

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Apology is accepted

 

For Pilafhead only!

Please read carefully and try to understand I will be as precise and detailed as possible for you.

 

What I was saying in my previous posting is that "the general belief that all girls prefer black guys to other guys" is not true. While some like Blacks, others like whites and the others like Asians. Therefore, it is an assumption to think girls in general like blacks, which is a wrong assumption. You might not have heard, but there is a saying that "assume is making ass form u and me". Now what that means is we should not make assumptions because they could be wrong.

 

If you pilafhead jun need more explanations Please ask!

 

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