Another Victim Of Hatred by Russian nationalism and Skinheads in Russi

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Russia

Armenian origin school pupil killed in Moscow

16:44 | 21/ 01/ 2007

 

 

 

MOSCOW, January 21 (RIA Novosti) - A school pupil of Armenian origin was killed in Moscow, a source in the law-enforcement bodies of the Russian capital said Sunday.

 

"The body of 16-year-old Artur Martirosyan with a stab injury of the left side of the chest was found Friday morning at 45 Kastanayevskaya Street," the source said.

 

According to the source, a seventh-form pupil, registered in the town of Tomilino in the Moscow region, resided with his parents in a rented apartment in Moscow since 2003.

 

A criminal investigation has been launched, the source said.

 

 

 

[Stormig]

Barbarians, cowards, typical, true to ancestry, the best Russian is the drunk Russian, blah blah blah...

[Harut]

Barbarians, cowards, typical, true to ancestry, the best Russian is the drunk Russian, blah blah blah...

 

i have no idea why armenians still live in russia, the shithole that it is...

Edited January 22, 2007 by Harut

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Unfortunately there are more than one million armenians in russia today. And according to the statistics they are sending the the most help (cash etc) to armenia than any other diaspora. Some of those armenians are 3th or more generation born in russia.

 

I am also for their move out of russia but it is going to be a humanitarian catastrophe for Armenia if they move over there.

 

 

[Zartonk]

Dirty fools. They have no soul & no identity.

 

As prosperous as Russian-Armenians are, I am all for their return to RA. Their intelligence and skill will only improve the nation.

[Lana]

As worse as the situation is getting in Russia for Armenians, it's not fair to blame the whole nation in what is going on in their country. Speaking about ancestry, let's not forget that Russia and Russian people are a nation with a richest culture and historical values.

And many people in Russia admit that skins are just a shame for the country and its people, just as other criminal organisations are a shame for society in any country that gives birth to such crimes.

And going back to Armenia is not a solution for Armenians, because for a lot of them Russia is the only escape from the extreme poverty.

Edited January 22, 2007 by Lana

[Armenak]

It's so easy to say things like this from the United States. Like us, many of those Russian Armenians are there for better pay and work. Let's also remember that some of the Armenians have been in Russia for centuries (Wikipedia tells me that the Armenians in the Krasnodar region have been settling there since the 18th century). Edited January 22, 2007 by Armenak

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As worse as the situation is getting in Russia for Armenians, it's not fair to blame the whole nation in what is going on in their country. Speaking about ancestry, let's not forget that Russia and Russian people are a nation with a richest culture and historical values.

And many people in Russia admit that skins are just a shame for the country and its people, just as other criminal organisations are a shame for society in any country that gives birth to such crimes.

And going back to Armenia is not a solution for Armenians, because for a lot of them Russia is the only escape from the extreme poverty.

 

Lana the russians always have been chauvinistic to us. Although it wasn't so during the soviet time. But I heard that before the soviet union in Tsarist russia people from caucasia were treated the same way as now.

 

Russia is rich of cultural historical values but it is rich of bad values too. Armenian "cucamolutyun" is historically coming from russians also "zakoni gogh" and codes in criminal world were taken from russia by armenians. Lets not forget that too.

 

You can meet those issues in history starting from Raffi's "Xachagoghi Hishatakaran" when armenian criminals were sent to syberia on those times.

 

Russians did alot for Armenia but they also took alot too. Currently they are killing armenian innocent children in Russia and noone from russian authorities cares. This is already the second case.

[MosJan]

 

incidents do happen who knows why the kid was killed - many years a go no one would of even report such incident - but nowadays anything that happens to an Armenian in any country get reported and news gets a rownd fast

 

one might say that it's not only in LA or turky that Armenians are killed

even in Russian Armenians are killed - a country that's Acting like a big brother for Armenian s

 

my neighbor has suggested that we kill 10 for each killed Armenian

hes wife ( Bavakan ) start yelling and ..... that's one conversation i don;t wish to have in his house

 

 

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Mos

 

gang killings doesn't bother me it happens everywhere. But when an innocent kid goes home after the work or school and some shaved head scum sticks the knife in his neck or heart it is not an incident. It is fashizm. For what? What did this 16 year old guy or Narek Kocharyan(15) to these scums?

[MosJan]

instead of student most every news sours is calling him a pupil ??

was he new at the school ??

 

 

Error people gets kiled evry day / but how shure are we that some shaved head scum sticks the knife in his neck or heart ??? haw sure are we that it was not some other OBIJNIK

 

 

you knwo haw russian MIlitsya is working - not much is changed - instead of solving the crime going after the lids - militsya is pointing the finger on or to skinhead's - finished - problem solver !!! lets go have some MAtryoshka Vodka or Matryoshka & Vodka !!!

 

one think is not to forget that skinhead's do take orders - most anyone can pay them to do their dirty job / including azedris / chachens and even Armenians

[Lana]

Mos, a little linguistic observation: I think they write "pupil" just because of the translation from Russian, which does a strict differentiation between a school student (uchenik) and college/university student (student).

 

 

Error, there is truth in what you are saying, of course. Though I guess Armenian cucamolutyun has always been there along with other minueses of our nation. But again, taking into consideration your truth, it is at least cruel to suggest that Russian Armenians had better go back home. Those people who moved to Russia recently were just less lucky than those who got to move to US.

 

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Probably typo or translation error in terms of pupil.

 

You might be right but I have almost no doubts that this is done by some Ass Heads.

 

 

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Lana jan,

 

my only concern is their safety. That is why I suggested them to move to safe locations.

[kakachik77]

only 1/3 of Armenians in Russia or maybe it was in Moscow are from the Armenia proper. I recently read a very interesting study on this in Russian unfortunately (for those interested ...please google it). The rest (majority) of Armenians come from Georgia, Azerbaijan refugees, Central Asian states, the European ex-Soviet states and of course some have been in Russia for a couple of generations. The 2/3 of Armenians in Russia speak Russian at home and mostly adhere to the Russian culture...in other words...the issue of moving back is probably not realistic.

[MosJan]

UAR Doesn’t Refer Martirosyan Killing to Xenophobia

22.01.2007 13:52 GMT+04:00 Print version Send to mail In Russian In Armenian

 

/PanARMENIAN.Net/ The Union of Armenians of Russia doesn’t see reasons to speak of xenophobia growth. “The situation in Russia tends to improve… One Armenian has been killed through national hatred since last September,” said UAR Vice-president Vyacheslav Galustayn. “All murders through national hatred were revealed and those responsible taken into custody,” he added.

 

Galustyan did not refer the killing of Moscow schoolboy Artur Martirosyan to xenophobia. The UAR leadership will closely watch the investigation, he said, reports the Echo of Moscow.

 

The dead body of 16-year-old Artur Martirosyan was found Friday morning. The boy was registered in Tomilino (Podmoskovie) and resided in a rented flat with his parents in Moscow since 2003. A criminal case was initiated in compliance of Article 105 (murder) of the Russian Penal Code

 

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Most of the skinheads usually are beeing freed from the court room and one gets 2-3 years for "xuliganstvo". It's a joke.

 

I am not sure if they found the killer of Narek Kocharyan yet.

[Eurocentric]

Where does it say anything about hatred? Who says it wasn't a result of a brawl?

Most of these Armenians killed in Russia are violent criminals.

[Dave]

I've read that they're socially close to Russian Azerbaijanis. Edited January 24, 2007 by Dave

[Eurocentric]

I've read that they're socially close to Russian Azerbaijanis.

 

Yes, not only Azeris but the savage Chechens as well.

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Armenians and Chechens enjoyed mutual respect before the "wars". I used to know some of them. Good friends...

 

But I lost my confidence and respect to them when the Arcax war started. There were a lot of chechen mercenaries fighting on azeri side. Remember the battle of Shushi. Chechens were the last fighters to leave Shushi and their head was the same shamil basayev.

 

Also Hrant Dink's assassination mastermind was trained in chechen camp in azerbaijan.

[MosJan]

ANOTHER ARMENIAN KILLED IN MOSCOW

 

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On January 30, Armen Manoukyan, a resident of Moscow was killed in the north-western Moscow as a result of shooting.

 

RF remedial forces informed “Interfax” agency that at about 12:00 unknown people shot Manoukyan. The latter died on the spot. The criminals immediately fled in the car VAZ-2109.

 

The police only know that the above-mentioned car belongs to an Armenian who lives in Russia.

[MosJan]

HRANT AND ARTHUR

 

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When famous journalist Hrant Dink was killed in Istanbul on January 19, another Armenian, not famous in the world, 16 years old Arthur Martirosian was severely killed in Tomilino settlement situated near Moscow. Certainly, the meaning of those events is different. None of them must be ignored. Especially when the murder in Istanbul was a unique event in Turkey during the latest years, while the murders of Armenians in Russia happen everyday. Simply Hrant’s murder was a proper opportunity for our national intellectuals and various strata of society to demonstrate their “patriotism”: as more you curse and damn Turks as more patriot you are. Besides, expressing anger on the occasion of Sumgayit, Genocide or Hrant Dink is harmless; nobody will beat or arrest you for it. But those same intellectuals haven’t held meetings and expressed their anger on Poghos Poghosian’s murder or against unfair elections. It is dangerous; they may lose their warm place in the authority’s pocket. Holding meetings against murders of Armenians in Russia is dangerous as well. As the leadership of that country are the patrons of the above-mentioned intellectuals’ patrons. Consequently, our newspapers won’t ever write “Russians remain Russians”, “Sargis Tkhruni” student club won’t demonstrate “Russia killed Arthur Martirosian” poster, and And Zory Balayan won’t make speeches against “pan-Russism”. Nobody will assure me that the murders of Armenians in Russia have no connection with the policy. Yes, Putin or Ivanov, condemn Nazism by words. But Erdoghan and Gyul do the same. The point is that they encourage those demonstrations by their behavior. And influential persons of Turkey encourage extremism. Read former president of that country Suleiman Demirel’s interview to APA Azerbaijani news agency: “Slander is in the blood of Armenians”, it’s a position of classical racist. The RF State Duma parliamentarians, governors, various officials, who encourage Nazism. Are the fascist of friend country better than Turk fascists. … Maybe Arthur would become a famous figure like Hrant Dink. If he grew up.

[SanVal]

only 1/3 of Armenians in Russia or maybe it was in Moscow are from the Armenia proper. I recently read a very interesting study on this in Russian unfortunately (for those interested ...please google it). The rest (majority) of Armenians come from Georgia, Azerbaijan refugees, Central Asian states, the European ex-Soviet states and of course some have been in Russia for a couple of generations. The 2/3 of Armenians in Russia speak Russian at home and mostly adhere to the Russian culture...in other words...the issue of moving back is probably not realistic.

 

 

You're right. Many of those other republics have stopped using Russian as their primary language; so, there's another reason why they can't move back.

 

It all seems so absurd to me, being an American and being around people of completely different appearances. In my opinion, the physical differences between a Russian and an Armenian are miniscule if you look at the entire spectrum of people in the world. With some Russians, though, it seems that minor differences are blown out of proportion.

[Armenak]

Thu Russians are going to have to come to terms with the fact that their country is a vast, multi-ethnic state. They can either treat the Tatars, Chechens, Altay and Circassians well, or they're all going to want more and more autonomy and ultimately independence.