Another Victim Of Hatred by Russian nationalism and Skinheads in Russi

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I think YOU SHOULD STOP USING THE TERM "RUSSIAN ARMENIAN"

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The domestic culture of a diaspora is an inevitable adaptation to the dwelling place. It is a result of native culture -which could develop the minority culture either by the means of complementary similarity or contrasting difference- and socio-economic conditions.

 

Certainly there will be differences between the way Armenians from X and Armenians from Y behave. We all know this. We all see this as well.

 

Yet I must say Shahan, diminishing the graveness and the immorality of a murder based merely on their origin of the victim a massive, massive assumption. Was the 17 year old really killed because he was a token criminal Eastern/Russian/"Stantsi" Armenian, or because he was Armenian? Does the misbehavior of a ANY group justify ANY such crime?

 

My friend, your view of the "Russianized Armenian" is a sweeping stereotype, and hints to an unhealthy perspective (and just for the record, I am not from Hayastan or Russia.)

 

You mention the historic cause of the great schism of Armenians. You say that we were divided, as indeed we were.

 

Why, then, reemphasize this division and this gap? Why, thence, create even more division?

 

Do we not relate because of a common denominator? Why cling to details?

 

Amen brother!

 

[Harut]

shahan, the reason a lot of hayastancis don't get along with certain [bully] layers of other ethnic groups is that hayastancis, unlike certain other "types" of armenians are not pussified and don't take shit from anyone...

 

i still think that it's all about jelousy...

[Accelerated]

haha, apres Harut! Tsav@t tanem!

[Nor Hayastan]

Shahan, you're so wrong here.

 

The hatred of minority immigrants is common everywhere. Ask the Polish in Ireland and the United Kingdom, the Turks in Germany, the Lebanese in Australia, and so on.

 

Shahan, you're from L.A., so I'm sure you've come across some of the "Russian-Armenians" who moved here in the 1940s. Haven't they integrated nicely?

 

It's ok Armenak jan, some people won't change even if you prove to them that your right. It's just a matter of life Unfortunately, a lot of Armenians put differences between one another, and create unjust stereotypes. You tell someone he is Hayastanci, and he says no... I'm Parskahay/Beirutahay/Polsahay/ whatever-hay lol

 

This is such a thing already spread out throughout the masses, and I think we need a big movement here in order to get such an idea across. Unfortunately, I don't think such a movement is going to happen, and Armenians will almost certainly put themselves within their "group." Then this will spill over as each "group" will only hang out with other "group" members (e.g. Parskahay's with Parskahay's, etc...), and a braoder national identity will be diminished because of this lack of unity as one, and only 1 type of Armenian - the Hayastanci

 

In Shahan's book, I am defined as an "Amerika-Hay." But I don't consider myself as one I consider myself Hayastanci, just like I do everyone else within this forum, because we all have only 1 Armenia, and we are all part of it directly, therefore we are defined in my book as ARMENIAns or HAYASTANcis

 

Hima haskacar indz Shahan jan?

[AK-47]

Shahan is not dividing Armenians guys, there is nothing bad in what he is saying. Calling someone a Russian Armenian won't divide Armenians, it merely implies that he is from Russia. Since our diaspora is bigger than the fatherland's population and since a fatherland did not exits for decades, we have adopted such terms to know where each Armenian is from. It's the same for the Jews...Ukrainian-Jew, Polish-Jew, French-Jew etc. (although judaism is a religion...)

 

And every Armenian that comes from a specific country has obviously developped differently and adopted or been influenced by their host country's culture. Hayastanci does not imply Armenian, Hayastanci means someone from the RoA. Generally, Hayastanci may be used to talk about Russian Armenians as well, although I am not sure why it has evolved that way. Hye = Armenian.

[hosank]

the reality is that in russia, armenians are killed not because they are mafiosos, tho some are, but many, because they are mistaken for other caucasians, like azeris, chechens or central asians..that is why they get killed

[Harut]

the reality is that in russia, armenians are killed not because they are mafiosos, tho some are, but many, because they are mistaken for other caucasians, like azeris, chechens or central asians..that is why they get killed

 

from what you say one would think that russians are out there to kill chechens or azeris (and from your tone, one would think that that's a justifiable cause), but since armenians look like them, they also unfortunately get killed...

 

no... that's a premier bull shit... russians are not out there to kill chechens or azeris... russians are out there to kill caucasians (for the same exact reason that majorities kill any ethnic, religous, racial, etc. manorities anywhere in this world), which also includes armenians...

[gamavor]

Armenian-Russian friendship is a myth. There is no such thing, except the "friendship" between Armenian men and Russian women. It is rather political convenience. They need us as a buffer with Turkey and Iran, and as a platzdarm to keep Caucasus in their control in case the situation goes out of their hand completely.

[Armenak]

Let's not generalize!

 

Gamavor, believe me, there is Armenian-Russian friendship. There are Russians who are grateful to the Armenians. These "skinhead" losers are a disgrace to their Soviet predecessors.

[Zartonk]

There is no holier than thou here. You shouldn't find any offense when I directly refer to a particular segment of the Armenian community. In this case, it is a sizeable fraction of the Russian Armenian community (I think around 25%). In other discussions, we have talked about community segments by political party, e.g. the ARF. This is no different. These segments in the community exist, and in order to intelligently talk about the community, you can't disregard these segments but must refer to them.

 

I understand. I agree with you concerning the fact that with diversity in a diaspora comes relative problems that are hard to ignore. The only thing is, that such a stance can easily be misinterpreted and abused by a factional individual and can lead to furher hostility. There are young Armenians, for example, that treat "other" like the outcasts of another race. Again, what you say is valid, but how you state it can harbor an unwanted outcome.

 

 

 

In order to solve a problem, you must first learn what the the problem is. Where is the problem? Who is part of the problem? Who is part of the solution? Why does the problem exist? Who is the problem affecting?

 

Well, to be obvious, it is more complex than just a single problem and the topic is near endless. Many, many different things contribute to the tensions facing the diaspora and the RoA citizenship.

 

That is a very good question that needs discussion. Let's add another question. Why aren't Armenians from the RoA involved in Armenian community organizations in the Diaspora in proportion to their numbers? What do we need to do to change this situation, so that they are more involved in the community, and to have positive role models?

 

With your permission, here are possible agents:

 

Quality of education, lack thereof?

 

General underemphasis of culture?

 

Economic dispositions?

 

Education of elder generations?

 

Social unrest?

 

...

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Zartonk]

shahan, the reason a lot of hayastancis don't get along with certain [bully] layers of other ethnic groups is that hayastancis, unlike certain other "types" of armenians are not pussified and don't take shit from anyone...

 

i still think that it's all about jelousy...

 

 

Man Harut! The Armenians with the...nads, yeah?

 

I do think that Armenians have been exposed to enough to evolve as a nation whose system doesn't really agree with s***.

 

 

[Zartonk]

Armenian-Russian friendship is a myth. There is no such thing, except the "friendship" between Armenian men and Russian women.

 

Gams, you just get better by the day, you do.

[Shahan Araradian]

It's ok Armenak jan, some people won't change even if you prove to them that your right. It's just a matter of life Unfortunately, a lot of Armenians put differences between one another, and create unjust stereotypes. You tell someone he is Hayastanci, and he says no... I'm Parskahay/Beirutahay/Polsahay/ whatever-hay lol

 

This is such a thing already spread out throughout the masses, and I think we need a big movement here in order to get such an idea across. Unfortunately, I don't think such a movement is going to happen, and Armenians will almost certainly put themselves within their "group." Then this will spill over as each "group" will only hang out with other "group" members (e.g. Parskahay's with Parskahay's, etc...), and a braoder national identity will be diminished because of this lack of unity as one, and only 1 type of Armenian - the Hayastanci

 

In Shahan's book, I am defined as an "Amerika-Hay." But I don't consider myself as one I consider myself Hayastanci, just like I do everyone else within this forum, because we all have only 1 Armenia, and we are all part of it directly, therefore we are defined in my book as ARMENIAns or HAYASTANcis

 

Hima haskacar indz Shahan jan?

Կարծեմ թէ դուն պէտք է հայոց պատմութիւն քիչ մը կարդաս բարեկամ որ հասկնաս թէ Հայաստանցիի պատմութիւնը ինչ է, Պարսկահայինը ինչ է, եւ արեւմտահայինը ինչ է: Եթէ ԱՄՆ կ'ապրիս ըսել չէ որ Հայաստանցի չես եւ ասի երրորդ անգամն է որ կ'ըսեմ: Եթէ ծնողքդ կամ դուն Հայաստանի Հ.ը ծնած եք եւ արեւելահայերէն կը խօսիք, ուրեմն Հայաստանցի եք բառին արօրեայ գործածուած իմաստով: Եւ պէտք չ'ունիս գեշ զգալու որ Հայաստանցի ես երբեք, քանի որ շատ լաւ Հայաստանցիներ գոյութիւն ունին:

 

Շատ հպարտանալով տեղ չես հասնիր: Հայուն ամէնէն տիպար յատկանիշներէն մէկը իր համեստութիւնն է եւ այդ յատկանիշը ու իր աշխատասիրութիւնն է որ լաւ անուն կերտած է աշխարհի իր գաղութներուն մէջ:

Edited April 17, 2007 by Shahan Araradian

[Shahan Araradian]

Armenian-Russian friendship is a myth. There is no such thing, except the "friendship" between Armenian men and Russian women. It is rather political convenience. They need us as a buffer with Turkey and Iran, and as a platzdarm to keep Caucasus in their control in case the situation goes out of their hand completely.

And the reality is that we need them to defend us against the Turks and Azeris. What are you talking about? Այո՛ երանի այդպէս չ'ըլլար: Երանի՜ թէ կրնայինք մեր հողերը մենք պաշտպանել: Բայց եթէ Հայաստան երդաս եւ հողի տարածքին մեծութիւնը տեսնաս կը հասկնաս թէ Հայը անկարելի է որ (ներկային) իր հողը պաշտպանէ առանց Ռուսիոյ: (Եւ նաեւ երբ տեսնաս թէ Հայաստանի հողին 99 տոկոսը պարապ է - այսինքն անբնակ - վազ կ'անցնիս Արեւմտահայաստանը ուցելէն քանի որ արդէն կը տեսնաս թէ մեր ժողովուրդի վիճակը իրակա՛ն ինչ է` 45,000 ՔԱՐԱԿՈՒՍԻ ՔԻԼՈՄԷԹՐ ՀՈՂ ՈՒՆԻՆՔ եւ Ո՛Չ ԿՐՆԱՆՔ ՊԱՇՏՊԱՆԵԼ եւ Ո՛Չ ԱԼ ԿՐՆԱՆՔ ԲՆԱԿԵԼ: Այս է իրկանութիւնը որ մե՛ր սերունդը պէտք է հասկնայ անմիչապէս, եւ ալ կը բաւէ խափուի եւ լսէ հին սերունդի շարունակ սուտերուն:

 

Այսօրուայ մեր «challenge»ը աւելի հող ապահովել չէ: Այսօրուայ մեր մարտակոչը «մերսետես» գշել չէ մեր աշխատավարցով եւ պարտքի առած դրամով մինչ մեր զաւակները կը յաճախէն օտար դպրոցներ: Այսօրուայ մարտակոչը հպարտ զգալ չէ: Այսօրուայ մարտակոչը ըսել չէ մենք մեզի հպարտացնենք թէ Ռուսերը մեզի պէտք ունին եւ թէ մենք որքան խելացի ազգ ենք եւ թէ մենք այս ենք կամ այն ենք:

 

Այսօրուայ մարտակոչնէ ստեղծել ինքաբաւ եւ աշխարհի հետ «integrated» Հայաստանի տնտետութիւն, եւ շարունակել զարգացնել հայկական գաղութները Սփիւռքի՝ մեծնելով աշխարհի դասակարգի խելացութեամբ, շնորհքով, եւ հայրենասէր նոր երիտասարդութիւն որոնք ամէն մէկն ալ բարձր դիրքեր եւ պաշտօններու կը տիրանան իրենց ապրած շրչանը աշխարհի ոեւէ մէկ կողմը: Եւ որոնք պիտի օգնենք Հայաստանի եւ իրենց գաղութին եւ ալ ջահն ալ պիտի անցնեն յաչորդ սերունդներուն:

[Shahan Araradian]

Shahan is not dividing Armenians guys, there is nothing bad in what he is saying. Calling someone a Russian Armenian won't divide Armenians, it merely implies that he is from Russia. Since our diaspora is bigger than the fatherland's population and since a fatherland did not exits for decades, we have adopted such terms to know where each Armenian is from. It's the same for the Jews...Ukrainian-Jew, Polish-Jew, French-Jew etc. (although judaism is a religion...)

 

And every Armenian that comes from a specific country has obviously developped differently and adopted or been influenced by their host country's culture. Hayastanci does not imply Armenian, Hayastanci means someone from the RoA. Generally, Hayastanci may be used to talk about Russian Armenians as well, although I am not sure why it has evolved that way. Hye = Armenian.

It is because history books refer to Armenians who were under the rule of the Russian Empire as Russian Armenians, and those under the rule of the Ottoman Empire as Ottoman Armenians or Western Armenians. For Russian Armenians, this was from the late 18th century to the 1920s.

 

I think YOU SHOULD STOP USING THE TERM "RUSSIAN ARMENIAN"

Fair enough. Since we're in the 21st century now (and not in the 20th) I'll refer to this group as Eastern Armenian from RoA.

Edited April 17, 2007 by Shahan Araradian

[Armenak]

Շատ հպարտանալով տեղ չես հասնիր: Հայուն ամէնէն տիպար յատկանիշներէն մէկը իր համեստութիւնն է եւ այդ յատկանիշը ու իր աշխատասիրութիւնն է որ լաւ անուն կերտած է աշխարհի իր գաղութներուն մէջ:

Guff.

 

The Hryas have established successful communities in every major western city, yet they're still hated.

 

Recently, an Asian killed 32 students at Virginia Tech. What is that going to do to their "lav anoun" as one of the country's most successful and respected minorities?

 

Sorry Shahan, a few years ago I would have agreed with you on all of this. But I don't like your "community" model. Western Armenians always end up assimilating. The old east coast Armenians for example. And now the ones in Beirut have started. I know some mixed Armenian-Maronite people who can't speak Armenian. Say what you will about these "Russian Armenians" but how many of them do you hear speaking English on the streets of Glendale?

 

Indeed, the reputation of Armenians in L.A. changed for the worse with the arrival of Russian Armenians in L.A in the 1990s. Now a lot of Armenians walk with their heads low and no longer want to be known as Armenian...)

If the actions of a few hoodlums causes you to renounce your Armenian-ness then shame on you. I suppose we are better off without these weaklings, who seem to care so much about how others think of them.

[Shahan Araradian]

Guff.

 

The Hryas have established successful communities in every major western city, yet they're still hated.

Հրեան չէ սիրուած քանի որ միայն իր ազգին շահերուն մասին կը մտածէ, ազգը կը բարձրացնէ, եւ հոգը չէ տեղացիին: Ուրեմն Հրեան չէ սիրուած թէ քանի որ չափազանց ազգասէր է:

 

Հայաստանցիներու մէկ մասը չէն սիրուած բոլորովին ՏԱՐԲԵՐ պատճարի մը համար: Քանի որ Հայաստանցիներու նշմարելի մաս մը (մօտ 25 տոկոսը) ԱՆԿԱՐԳ են եւ ոեւէ մէկ ժողովուրդ անկարգ մարդ չի սիրէր:

 

Recently, an Asian killed 32 students at Virginia Tech. What is that going to do to their "lav anoun" as one of the country's most successful and respected minorities?

 

Sorry Shahan, a few years ago I would have agreed with you on all of this. But I don't like your "community" model. Western Armenians always end up assimilating. The old east coast Armenians for example. And now the ones in Beirut have started. I know some mixed Armenian-Maronite people who can't speak Armenian. Say what you will about these "Russian Armenians" but how many of them do you hear speaking English on the streets of Glendale?

Last I checked, most Eastern Armenians from RoA attend public schools, don't know how to read/write in Armenian, and I wonder what their vocabulary must be like if they can't read Armenian literature. Is this "speaking Armenian" to you?

 

Last I checked, the majority of Armenian schools in L.A. are attended by Western Armenians and Iranian-Armenians.

 

Now I'm not bringing all this up to throw stones at Eastern Armenians from RoA; it's to show what the reality is on the ground. Eastern Armenians from RoA are assimilating the fastest; how do they intend to stay Armenian without attending Armenian schools and getting involved in community life?

 

These are very simple questions and they aren't to make you angry. It's to make you think.

 

If the actions of a few hoodlums causes you to renounce your Armenian-ness then shame on you. I suppose we are better off without these weaklings, who seem to care so much about how others think of them.

Don't try to defend mediocrity. You will lose that battle.

 

Accept that they are far less than mediocre, accept that there is a problem, and then try to visualize the solution. Half of getting to the solution is to understand the problem.

Edited April 17, 2007 by Shahan Araradian

[Armenak]

Don't try to defend mediocrity. You will lose that battle.

Will I really?

 

Let's ask the Mexicans. How many of them look down in shame even though there are numerous Chicano gangsters in Los Angeles alone? The Mexicans are all over Los Angeles, their culture is everywhere and so is their language. And they really don't care what people think about them.

Edited April 17, 2007 by Armenak

[Shahan Araradian]

Will I really?

 

Let's ask the Mexicans. How many of them look down in shame even though there are numerous Chicano gangsters in Los Angeles alone? The Mexicans are all over Los Angeles, their culture is everywhere and so is their language. And they really don't care what people think about them.

LOL! Մեքսիքացիները «de facto» ստրուկներն են Լոս Անճելըսի: Սկսինք մեզի Զուլուներուն հե՞տ ալ բախդատել: Եթէ մէկը ինքզինքնը երկու կամ երեք աստիճան մակարդակով ցած մարդու հետ բախդատէ լաւ կը զգայ, չէ՞: Երբ այդ մէկը ան շարունակէ, ի վերչոյ կը լճանայ եւ ամէնէն ցած մակարդակի բաժակը իրը կ'ըլլայ:

 

Անոր համար, միշտ պիտի բորձէ անձը ինքզինքէն երկու, երկեք, տասը աստիճան աւելի բարձր մարդու հետ փախդատել ինք երեն, ընկերակցի անոր հետ եւ սորվի՛ անորմէ որպէսզի կրնայ ինքն ալ բարձրանալ: Պարապի չէ որ Հրեաները կ'ըսէն թէ երբ ընկեր զատես, պէտք է որ ընկերանաս քեզմէ մի քանի աստիճան բարձր մարդոց հետ:

 

Ասոնք դարերէ ժառանգած իմաստութիւններ են: Այլեւս անձի՛ն կը մնայ եթէ իմաստութիւնը կ'օգտագործէ կամ կ'անտեսէ:

Edited April 17, 2007 by Shahan Araradian

[Shahan Araradian]

haha, apres Harut! Tsav@t tanem!

Այո ապրի՛ս Յարութ: ՀՊԱՐՏ հայը: Հայուն ԱՄԷՆ մարդ կը նախանձի: ԱՅՈ՛ ԱՅՈ՛: Հայաստանցին ԱՆՍԽԱԼ է: Ամէն մարդ կը սիրէ եւ կը յարգէ: Եւ ԱՄԷՆ մարդ Հայաստանցիէն կը նախանձի քանի որ մերսետես կը գշեն եւ մերսետես գշողը ըսել է որ ՇԱՏ ԲԱՐՁՐ ՄԱԿԱՐԴԱԿԻ մարդ է: Ինչ լաւ հասկցած ես աշխարհը: Կեցցէ՛: Կեցցէ՛: Ապրի՛ նիւթապաշտութիւնը, ԿՈՅՐ ազգայնասիրութիւնը, եւ անձնասիրութիւնը (այսինքն՝ հակա-միութենականը):

Edited April 17, 2007 by Shahan Araradian

[Shahan Araradian]

With your permission, here are possible agents:

 

Quality of education, lack thereof?

 

General underemphasis of culture?

 

Economic dispositions?

 

Education of elder generations?

 

Social unrest?

 

...

All great points!

 

Cultural shock?

[Nor Hayastan]

Կարծեմ թէ դուն պէտք է հայոց պատմութիւն քիչ մը կարդաս բարեկամ որ հասկնաս թէ Հայաստանցիի պատմութիւնը ինչ է, Պարսկահայինը ինչ է, եւ արեւմտահայինը ինչ է: Եթէ ԱՄՆ կ'ապրիս ըսել չէ որ Հայաստանցի չես եւ ասի երրորդ անգամն է որ կ'ըսեմ: Եթէ ծնողքդ կամ դուն Հայաստանի Հ.ը ծնած եք եւ արեւելահայերէն կը խօսիք, ուրեմն Հայաստանցի եք բառին արօրեայ գործածուած իմաստով: Եւ պէտք չ'ունիս գեշ զգալու որ Հայաստանցի ես երբեք, քանի որ շատ լաւ Հայաստանցիներ գոյութիւն ունին:

 

Շատ հպարտանալով տեղ չես հասնիր: Հայուն ամէնէն տիպար յատկանիշներէն մէկը իր համեստութիւնն է եւ այդ յատկանիշը ու իր աշխատասիրութիւնն է որ լաւ անուն կերտած է աշխարհի իր գաղութներուն մէջ:

 

Lsi e Shahan jan, menq mer VOGHJ patmutyan @ntacqum menq hayers mer glux@ patin einq tali. Minjev es or noric mer hin sxalneric chenq sovorel (aha Glendale-i es verji @ntrutyunner@). Ay dra hamar a Shahan jan menq amen inchov bazhanvac enq - 2 lezu (arevmtyan hayeren & arevelyan hayeren), 2 yekegheci (Ejmiacinn u Antilias)... Gites yes chem asum es bazhanumner@ @ntanur armamp vat ein. Kan vorosh bnagavarrner vor lav ein mer zhoghovurti hamar, bayc @NTHANUR ARMAMP, sa shat vnas e mer hamar. Anqam 4-rd kam 5-rd darum Arshak taqavor@ ira banak@ uner, yev Nerses@ (Qatolikos@ ayn zhamanak) ira ARRANDZIN banak@ uner! yev hayers piti paterazm mtneinq espes bazhanvac. U es barreri xagh@ hima (Parskahay, Hayastanci, Beiruci, Suriaci, to yesiminch-ci) um e petq? Hima yes amerika em cnvel (New Jersey nahang@), yev im cnoghner@ aystegh shutva yekac en...Hayastanic. Yes inqs indz HAYASTANCI em hamarum vorovhetev yes mi antam em im azgin, vor ir hayreniq@ HAYASTANn e.

 

U im karciqov im lav yeghpayr, iharke sa nshvac chi dzer asaci mej, bayc inqs indz porcarutyunic zgacel em. Shat "beiruciner" vat en hamarum "hayastancinerin," inch e "urish" gorcerov en zbaghvum Hayastanciner@ poxanak azgi masin mtacel. "Parskahayer"n el misht mshakuytov hetaqrqrvac en, bayc yerpeq haykakan qaghaqavarutyan mej chen mtnum, poxanak mijin-arevelqi hayer@. Tes noric aynpes e stacvum vor yes sheshtumner piti dnem hayeri mej, vor@ yes chem uzum dnem ayt sheshtumner@ bayc aynqan e zharrangac ays mer azgi SXALNER@, vor anqam mer serundin e hasel arten, yev menq el ayt sxalner@ krum enq mer het. Jisht chi sirelis....

[Nor Hayastan]

Այո ապրի՛ս Յարութ: ՀՊԱՐՏ հայը: Հայուն ԱՄԷՆ մարդ կը նախանձի: ԱՅՈ՛ ԱՅՈ՛: Հայաստանցին ԱՆՍԽԱԼ է: Ամէն մարդ կը սիրէ եւ կը յարգէ: Եւ ԱՄԷՆ մարդ Հայաստանցիէն կը նախանձի քանի որ մերսետես կը գշեն եւ մերսետես գշողը ըսել է որ ՇԱՏ ԲԱՐՁՐ ՄԱԿԱՐԴԱԿԻ մարդ է: Ինչ լաւ հասկցած ես աշխարհը: Կեցցէ՛: Կեցցէ՛: Ապրի՛ նիւթապաշտութիւնը, ԿՈՅՐ ազգայնասիրութիւնը, եւ անձնասիրութիւնը (այսինքն՝ հակա-միութենականը):

 

Lsi Shahan jan, yete zruyc@ ays janaparhov e gnalu, uremn togh yes andzamp myus koghm@ nerkayacnem! Yes 10-erort dasaranic minj 12-erort dasaran usanel em AGBU Manoogian-Demirdjian. Yes teghapoxvelov aystegh Los Angeles, shat huzvac ei vor arraji anqam piti usanei ZUT HAYKAKAN dproc. Yete chgiteq Shahan jan, usanoghneri mecamasnutyun@ kam "Polsahay" ein, kam el "Beiruci" ays dprocum. Poxanak usanoghner@ hayeren xosayin irar het, angleren ein xosum. Arravel yevs, usanoghner@ chein hetaqrqrvum haykakan mshakuytov, ayl inch nor baner e katarvum pop culture-i mej amerikayum. Dzer asac "Hayastancin" vor ayt mersedesn e qshum (vor@ asem, shat chapazancvac e ayt xosqer@ et dzer "Hayastanci" martkanc), aveli shat e pahpanum Hay voqin ira yerexaneri mej qan Beirutahay, kam Polsahay, kam urish hay. Misht bacarrutyunner kan, bayc @nthanur armamp inch vor yes em nkatel, ayt em asum. Yerp vor mi ban aytpes piti nerkayacnes Shahan jan, misht myus koghmn el nerkayacru. Inchpes ayt angleren asacvacq@ ka che? "There are two-sides to every coin," nuyn@ astegh sirelis.

 

U mi ban el asem, yes anqam xosacel em cnoghneri het ayt dprocum, u shater@ chen hetaqrqrvum haykakan mshakuytov kam lezvov ayt dprocum. Miak patjarr@ vor ugharkum en irenc yeraxnerin ayntegh, qani vor sepakan dproc e. Menak AGBU-n chi, bolor myus haykakan dprocner@ nuynpes. Yev yete cnoghner@ chhetaqrqrven hay mshakuytov, apa yerexaner@ inchpes piti hetaqrqrven? I dep Beirutahay/Suriahay/Polsahay aselis hayer@ vor duq cheq nshum vorpes "Hayastanci," ay hima parz e te inchu cheq nshum. U yes aytpes el gitei, qani vor past e yerp vor mart "Hayatanci" e asum, anmijakanoren patkeracnum e ayn mart@ 1) Mersedes-ov 2) Anorenq gorcerov zbaghvac 3) Rabiz haqnvac 4) Voch hayastanci xntirnerov hetaqrqrvac... yev ayln

 

Heriq e sirelis ayspes paraxtumner drven hay azgi mej. Mer patmutyun@ mez apacucel e aveli shat vat e yeghel ayspes bazhanvac qan miacac. Ays anunneri xaghn el miayn brrtum e ayt sxal@ araj...

[Armenak]

Nor Hayastan, you are so right.

 

And I can speak from experience, as I went to an azkayin school.