Arpa Posted September 4, 2006 Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 People. Please, the more we talk about this insignificant non-incident the more we give them more credence. I said “insignificant”, yet look at its significance and its cost to us when Khojaly was used as a launching pad to shell Stepanakert and other Armenian villages causing devastation and carnage (see figures below). Besides, this whole thing started when Armenians, now that the Soviet Union which had covered the festering animosities was in shambles and at the verge of collapse, sensing the imminent Nakhjavanization of Artsakh, conducted peaceful demonstrations which were met with pogroms and massacres in Baku and Sumgait. It left the Armenians no choice but to resort to armed struggle, lest , once again Artsakh be totally cleansed. Who started the war? The more we talk about the subject, the more we quote their lies the more we promote their agenda. Let us stick to facts and abide by our guns, so to speak, and literally, and let them bury themselves in the web of lies they have and are still spinning. As always, the minute that ugly bird gobbles we lose our composure, get our feathers ruffled and are led by our bif noses. It is about time we lead them by their dirty feathers. Let us not lose our sight, fall into that web of lies, lose our sense of direction and be derailed in the process. No matter what they may say see the true picture is below; http://www.nkrusa.org/nk_conflict/khojaly.shtml Events in Khojaly (NKR) and near Agdam (Azerbaijan) on February 25-27, 1992 " src="../assets/pdf_icon.gif" width=18 align=absMiddle border=0 Download Khojaly Fact Sheet Khojaly is also often spelled as Xocali, Khojaly, Khodzhaly, Khojalu, Khocalu, Khocali, Khocaly Azerbaijan turned Khojaly into a launch pad for indiscriminate bombardment of Karabakh In 1991 and early 1992, Azerbaijan used an Azeri inhabited village of Khojaly in Nagorno Karabakh as a launching pad for indiscriminate artillery and rocket fire on Stepanakert, the capital of the Nagorno Karabakh Republic (NKR), located only a short 15-minute drive from Khojaly. By the end of February 1992, intensive fire from Khojaly and other Azeri military strongholds in Karabakh had killed 243 people, including 14 children and 37 women, and wounded 491, including 53 children and 70 women. In addition, systematic and intense artillery and rocket fire against civilian targets in Stepanakert paralyzed the city, destroying hospitals, administrative buildings, schools, and homes. By controlling Khojaly, Azerbaijan also prohibited access to Karabakh’s airport, the only link with the outside world, which was used to bring food and medical aid. Furthermore, Khojaly was also used as a staging area for military offensives on Stepanakert and nearby Armenian-populated villages. Thus, Khojaly became a legitimate military target for Self-Defense Forces of the Nagorno Karabakh Republic. Legitimate target for NKR Self-Defense Units In early January 1992, Nagorno Karabakh authorities decided to neutralize this military target and informed the Azeris. The NKR authorities also transmitted this information by radio, TV, loudspeakers, leaflets and other methods to warn the Khojaly civilian population of the upcoming operation, giving the civilian population an opportunity to exit the area through a safe corridor. Azerbaijan’s leadership in Baku, as well as local authorities, and military commanders in Khojaly knew about the corridor, its width and direction. Both Azerbaijani President Ayaz Mutalibov and Khojaly Mayor Elman Mamedov in their 1992 interviews confirmed this fact. During two weeks leading to the Khojaly operation, NKR Self-Defense Forces observed a mass exodus of the civilian population from Khojaly through the provided corridor (see on the map). The operation to neutralize Khojaly base of the Azeri armed forces began at 11:00 PM on February 25 and was successfully completed within five hours. Nagorno Karabakh forces took full control of the area, killing dozens of military personnel during the operation. Unfortunately, 11 civilians became unintended victims. About 700 civilians and military surrendered to NKR Self-Defense Forces. The captured civilians were returned to Azerbaijan in the following days, while the military personnel was later exchange for the Armenian military prisoners and civilian hostages held by Azerbaijan. Events on the territory controlled by Azerbaijan, 7 miles from Khojaly, after the Khojaly operation was over  Map of the Events in Khojaly (NKR) and near Agdam (Azerbaijan) on February 25-27, 1992 [ view large map ] When the military operation began in Khojaly, a large group of civilians and armed military personnel from Khojaly used the provided humanitarian corridor to exit the battlefield and began moving in the direction of the Azeri- controlled Agdam. Near Nakhichevanik village of Karabakh (outside of the provided corridor), the group provoked a gun battle with the defenders of Nakhichevanik, which resulted in numerous death on both sides. On February 28 and early March 1992, in the area then fully controlled by Azerbaijan, Azerbaijani and Turkish journalists videotaped images of the hundreds of killed and, during the second video shooting session, also mutilated bodies. Since then, official Baku has falsified the events and used the human tragedy to persistently fan anti-Armenian hysteria to demonize the Armenian people in the eyes of the Azeris and the international community. It used the images to incite anti-Armenian sentiment and intolerance, which resulted in murders and calls from Azeris to wipe out Armenians as an ethnic group. Conclusion Responsibility for the tragic loss of civilian life on February 26-27, 1992 on the outskirts of Agdam, territory fully controlled by Azeri forces, lies with the political and military leadership of Azerbaijan. First, the Azeri leadership used the territory of Khojaly for indiscriminate artillery attacks on civilian targets, thus turning the town into a legitimate military target for NKR Self-Defense Forces. Second, the Azeri leadership intentionally prevented the civilian population from leaving the militarized village. Third, the Azeri leadership failed to safely relocate civilians from Khojaly after public warnings of upcoming military operation, although it had many opportunities to do so. Fourth, retreating Azeri forces provoked an exchange of fire with NKR Self-Defense Forces some five miles from Khojaly, which resulted in losses on both sides. Fifth, those who had continued, full access to the site of reported close-range, mass killing are responsible for it. The reported killing of hundreds of civilians with incidences of barbaric mutilation of bodies took place near Agdam (some seven miles from Khojaly), on the territory controlled by Azeri forces. Free access to the site by Azeri and Turkish journalists is clear evidence to that end. In addition, Azerbaijan continues to create ground for a prolonged human tragedy by inciting anti-Armenian sentiments and intolerance in Azeri society. Such a policy stalls efforts to build bridges between Armenian and Azeri people and achieve eventual, long-lasting peace between Azerbaijan and Nagorno Karabakh. * * * Background data, journalistic investigation and academic research materials to support the above information are available at the NKR Office and can be provided on-demand. In the course of discussing the issue "On Violation of Human Rights and Main Freedoms throughout the World" at the fifty-seventh session of the UN Commission on Human Rights, the Armenian delegation submitted to the Chairman of the UN Commission on Human Rights information on the real events of February 1992, which was spread as an official document of the fifty-seventh session of the aforementioned Commission. The text of the document is given below. THE TRUTH ABOUT THE EVENTS IN KHOJALY Evidence from Azerbaijani sources For nine years after the events in Khojaly official Baku has been obstinately fanning anti-Armenian hysteria with the aim of falsifying real events and discrediting the Armenian people in the eyes of the international community. The events in Khojaly, which led to the death of civilians, were the results solely of political intrigues and a struggle for power in Azerbaijan. The real reasons are most convincingly reflected in the accounts of Azerbaijanis themselves - as participants in and eyewitnesses of what happened - as well as of those who know the whole inside story of the events in Baku. According to Azerbaijani journalist M. Safarogly, "Khojaly occupied an important strategic position. The loss of Khojaly was a political fiasco for Mutalibov". 1 Khojaly, along with Shushi and Agdam, was one of the main strongholds from which Stepanakert, the capital of the Nagorno Karabakh Republic, was shelled continuously and mercilessly for three winter months using artillery and missiles and launchers for targeting cities. Knocking out the weapon emplacements in Khojaly and freeing the airport were the only way for the inhabitants of the Nagorno Karabakh Republic to ensure the physical survival of a population condemned by Azerbaijan to complete annihilation. The daily shelling of Stepanakert from nearby Khojaly took the lives of peaceful inhabitants - women, children and old people. Former President of Azerbaijan, Ayaz Mutalibov, has emphasized that "… the assault on Khojaly was not a surprise attack"2. In a "Nezavisimaya gazeta" newspaper interview he stated that "a corridor was kept open by the Armenians for people to leave"3. However, a column of civilians was fired on by armed units of the Popular Front of Azerbaijan on the approaches to the Agdam district border, a fact later confirmed by Ayaz Mutalibov, who linked this criminal act to attempts by the opposition to remove him from power, and blamed it entirely for what happened. In his recent interview with the "Novoye vremya" magazine, Mutalibov confirms his statement of nine year ago: "The shooting of the Khojaly residents was obviously organized by someone to take control in Azerbaijan"4. Similar comments and views concerning the events in Khojaly are known to have been made by several other highly-placed Azerbaijani officials and journalists. There is, moreover, the conclusion of Azerbaijani journalist Arif Yunusov, which differs somewhat from the previous statements: "The town and its inhabitants were deliberately sacrificed for a political purpose - to prevent the Popular Front of Azerbaijan from coming to power"5. In this case, though, the Azerbaijanis themselves are named as the perpetrators of the tragedy. What resulted from the betrayal of the inhabitants of Khojaly by their own highly placed compatriots is well known. Azerbaijani propaganda has railed to the whole world about the "atrocities of the Armenians", supplying television stations with horrendous pictures of a field strewn with mutilated bodies. Khojaly is claimed to have been the "Armenians' revenge for Sumgait". Tamerlan Karayev, at one time Chairman of the Supreme Council of the Azerbaijan Republic, bears witness: "The tragedy was committed by the authorities of Azerbaijan", and specifically by "someone highly placed"6. The Czech journalist Jana Mazalova, who by an oversight of the Azerbaijanis was included in both of the groups of press representatives to be shown the "bodies mutilated by the Armenians", noted a substantial difference in the two cases. When she went to the scene immediately after the events, Mazalova did not see any traces of barbarous treatment of the bodies. Yet a couple of days later the journalists were shown disfigured bodies already "prepared" for pictures. Who killed the peaceful inhabitants of Khojaly and then mutilated their bodies, if the tragedy occurred not in a village taken by Armenians or on the route of the humanitarian corridor, but on the approaches to the town of Agdam - on territory fully controlled by the Popular Front of Azerbaijan? The independent Azerbaijani cameraman Chingiz Mustafayev, who took pictures on 28 February and 2 March 1992, had doubts about the official Azerbaijani version and began his own inquiry. The journalist's very first report to the Moscow news agency "D-press" on the possible complicity of the Azerbaijani side in the crimes cost Mustafayev his life: he was killed nor far from Agdam, under circumstances that are still unexplained. The current President of Azerbaijan, Heydar Aliyev, himself recognized that Azetbaijan's "former leadership was also guilty" of events in Khojaly. Already in April 1992, according to the agency Bilik-Dunyasy, he had commented as follows: "The bloodshed will be to our advantage. We should not interfere in the course of events". To whose "advantage" was the bloodshed is clear to everyone. "Megapolis-Express" wrote: "It cannot be denied that if the Popular Front of Azerbaijan actually set far-reaching objectives, they have been achieved. Mutalibov has been compromised and overthrown, public opinion worldwide has been shaken, and the Azerbaijanis and their Turkish brethren have believed in the so-called "genocide of the Azerbaijani people in Khojaly"7. One other tragic detail. It has become clear since the events that 47 Armenian hostages were already being held on 26 February in "peaceful" Khojaly, a fact that the Azerbaijani mass media "covering" the tragedy have failed to mention. After the liberation of Khojaly only 13 hostages (including 6 woman and 1 child) were found there, the other 34 having been taken away by the Azerbaijanis to an unknown location. The only thing known about them is that they were led from the village on the night of the operation, but never reached Agdam. There is still no information concerning what eventually happened to them or confirming that they continued to be held captive by the Azerbaijanis. Obviously, those who wanted to create the impression that bodies had been mutilated by the Armenians first of all disfigured the bodies of those same Armenian hostages, in order to make it impossible to identify them. Precisely for that purpose the outer clothing was removed from many of the bodies and precisely for that reason the bodies of the unfortunate victims were damaged so badly that they became unrecognizable. In the light of the above facts it may confidently be said that the killing of peaceful inhabitants of the village of Khojaly and of the Armenian hostages being held there was the work of the Azerbaijani side, which committed this crime against its own people in the name of political intrigues and the struggle for power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRA Posted September 4, 2006 Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 (edited) Again a mistake I come across everywhere... Man! What has race to do with all this? Turks came from Mongolia; they spread like cancer in Central Asia in the 6th century annihilating the indigenous peoples of the region, the Turanians of Iranian origin. Then they came upon us like the plague in the 11th century. They turkified, islamized, stole kids for janissary and raped the women in their filthy harems for a thousand years. They were always the minority therefore the Turks of today have lost their Mongoloid features and look like the locals wherever they set their hoofs. Unfortunately they still have the same Mongol brain that has not evolved in the last 12000 years or so. It's what you feel you are and it has nothing to do with what you look like. Bravo Hellektor! You took the words right out of my mouth. Edited September 4, 2006 by IRA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellektor Posted September 11, 2006 Report Share Posted September 11, 2006 People. Please, the more we talk about this insignificant non-incident the more we give them more credence. Exactly what I'm tearing my throat for the whole time! On every Armenian forum there are tons of threads about this tiny, trivial, insignificant wartime incident while no one is interested to give feedback for REAL genocidal acts for instance what happened in Maragha. Why? I'm not even mentioning Sumgait, Baku, Gandzak, etc. genocides. Let's face it, they are much better in propaganda and we, I don't know why, are hell bent to prove that it was not the Armenians who disposed of the garbage in Khojalu. Who cares if once for a change Armenians killed some worthless, stinking, good-for-nothing nomadic, primitive squatters in our own home? According to almost all non-Armenian sources it was the Turks who did it though. http://www.cilicia.com/pics/picf/vahan/Map-Azerbaijan.gif Just see if on any "Azeri" forum they call Armenians human beings or give a damn about all those genocidal acts they committed. Is there a single "Azeri" forum where they express regret for what they did in Sumgait, in the style of Accelerated? "This (Sumgait) is a great black blot on our otherwise nonexistent victory. If "Azeris" are/were responsible, something should be done to about it." Bravo Hellektor! You took the words right out of my mouth. Thanks for the compliment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HyeFedayis Posted January 7, 2007 Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 Well the former Azerbaijan president blamed the government but Monte Melkonian said that it was an act of revenge sadly but I'm not sure now. But if something is done first lets take care of all the other genocides that azeris have done against us and this and i do not recognize this because azeris do not recognize the Armenian genocide so we shall not recognize this you can call us sick but there sicker for not recognizing the Armenian genocide 20 times the pain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 7, 2007 Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 (edited) other genocides Even if all that the Azeris say about Khojali is true, it can't be considered a genocide according to the UN definition. Edited January 7, 2007 by Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HyeFedayis Posted January 7, 2007 Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 (edited) Even if all that the Azeris say about Khojali is true, it can't be considered a genocide according to the UN definition. A genocide is targeting a certain amount of people and killing them it has to be planned wasn't it? Edited January 7, 2007 by HyeFedayis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Error 404 Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 Even if all those attrocities are true and not staged. It can be considered as collateral damage or worst case scenario mass killing. It is sad when children have to die but those(azeri fighters "narodni front") who were shooting from behind the children are to blame and not the armenian soldiers who acted according to the rules of engagement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSergiu Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 The turk/tatars are doing everything in their power to trivialize the meaning of the word genocide. So, when a turk/tatar dies or if someone takes a p*ss on a turk/tatar "building" we all hear tales about poor "unarmed", "defenseless","inocent" turks/tatars that were "genocided". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irlandahay Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 You are welcome, Acc. By the way, regarding the fact that Azeris are human (with all the associated vices), it's helpful to remember that Armenians are genetically close to Turks and Azeris. It's something that every Armenian should be profoundly proud of (once they realize what it actually means). okay lionheart good previous posts but im going to have to stop you there. WE ARE NOT, and i repeat ARE NOT, in the same bloodline as azeris and turks. the pure and simple difference is, we have been here for 4000years and them for not even a 1000. dont insult our noble race by mixing them with sheep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irlandahay Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 A genocide is targeting a certain amount of people and killing them it has to be planned wasn't it? no. a genocide, is an order given by THE HIGHEST point of government, as an attempt to whipe out in whole or in part, a religious or ethnic group. try and link khojaly to Kocharian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellektor Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 It can be considered as collateral damage or worst case scenario mass killing. It is sad when children have to die (They killed millions of our children for centuries and I count those stolen for Janissary as well. H.) but those(azeri fighters "narodni front") who were shooting from behind the children are to blame and not the armenian soldiers who acted according to the rules of engagement. I still wonder how us Armenians can feel for a species of garbage that picks up sledgehammers and smashes thousands of our thousand year old monuments for no reason but utter hatred, then they tell us not to worry because they belong to their "Albanian" ancestors. While Aghvank's border with Armenia was the River Kur and even when Artsakh was put under the administrative part of Aghvank in Sassanid times, after they divided Armenia between themselves and the Romans in order to weaken Armenia, Nakhijevan could never have been a part of Aghvank. That the "Azeri" garbage have nothing to do with the Aghvank is another story. But why on earth do we say "who killed the peaceful people of Khojaly?" Have you ever seen a Turk say "who killed the peaceful people of Sumgait, Baku, Gandzak, etc."? Even if the Armenians put a hundred useless, worthless, stinking, illiterate, tent-dwelling garbage out of their misery, the corpse porn was done by the "Azeris" and I won't repeat the whole thing because all is already said here. Chingiz Mustafayev, whose photos are abused to incriminate the Armenians found that out and when shit hit the fan they killed him who was one of their own. But again, even if Armenians had killed those 100 cockroaches, SO - FUCKING - WHAT? Even if all those attrocities are true and not staged. What ALL? We say Sumgait they scream Khojalyyyyyyyyyyy We talk about the pogroms in Baku they wail Khojalyyyyyyyyyyy We mention the slaughter in Gandzak they howl Khojalyyyyyyyyyyy We write about the Maragha massacre where they sawed off heads of dozens of Armenians they whimper Khojalyyyyyyyyyyy We mourn the"Ring" operation they shout Khojalyyyyyyyyyyy We tell them about Karintak they cry Khojalyyyyyyyyyyy We show the world what they did in Shusi they beat their heads chanting Khojalyyyyyyyyyyy We bring up the Nakhijevan destruction they say those were only stone what about Khojalyyyyyyyyyyy To all the savageries they committed in fake "Azerbaijan" in Shamkhor, Shamakhi, Hadrut, Getashen, Berdadzor, Sheki, Voskepar, Zakatali, Chardakhli, Shahoomian, etc., from 1988 to 1994 they regurgitate Khojalyyyyyyyyyyy, Khojalyyyyyyyyyyy Aerial bombardments of Artsakh Khojalyyyyyyyyyyy Shelling Stepanakert Khojalyyyyyyyyyyy The Baku, Artsakh, Nakhijevan genocidal acts in 1905 - 1906 Khojalyyyyyyyyyyy The Hamidian Genocide Khojalyyyyyyyyyyy The Adana Genocide in 1909 Khojalyyyyyyyyyyy The Marash massacres in 1920 by genocidal Hammal Cacaturk Khojalyyyyyyyyyyy The Smyrna burning in 1921 again by Ataturd Khojalyyyyyyyyyyy The Armenian Genocide 1071 - 2007 Khojalyyyyyyyyyyy, Khojalyyyyyyyyyyy, Khojalyyyyyyyyyyy, Khojalyyyyyyyyyyy, Khojalyyyyyyyyyyy, Khojalyyyyyyyyyyy, Khojalyyyyyyyyyyy, Khojalyyyyyyyyyyy, Khojalyyyyyyyyyyy, Khojalyyyyyyyyyyy, Khojalyyyyyyyyyyy, Khojalyyyyyyyyyyy, Khojalyyyyyyyyyyy, Khojalyyyyyyyyyyy... To hell with Khojaly. May those 100 stinking Turds rot in hell. What about the 34 out of 47 innocent Armenian hostages whose pure bodies were desecrated by throwing them at the pile of "Azeri"/Meskheti garbage to increase the number of casualties, the performing of corpse porn to hide their identities and to cry wolf: "genocide, Khojalyyyyy"? These are the atrocities that happened in Khojaly and yes the Khojaly monstrosity happened to the Armenians not vice versa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accelerated Posted February 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 We say Sumgait they scream Khojalyyyyyyyyyyy We talk about the pogroms in Baku they wail Khojalyyyyyyyyyyy We mention the slaughter in Gandzak they howl Khojalyyyyyyyyyyy We write about the Maragha massacre where they sawed off heads of dozens of Armenians they whimper Khojalyyyyyyyyyyy We mourn the"Ring" operation they shout Khojalyyyyyyyyyyy We tell them about Karintak they cry Khojalyyyyyyyyyyy We show the world what they did in Shusi they beat their heads chanting Khojalyyyyyyyyyyy We bring up the Nakhijevan destruction they say those were only stone what about Khojalyyyyyyyyyyy To all the savageries they committed in fake "Azerbaijan" in Shamkhor, Shamakhi, Hadrut, Getashen, Berdadzor, Sheki, Voskepar, Zakatali, Chardakhli, Shahoomian, etc., from 1988 to 1994 they regurgitate Khojalyyyyyyyyyyy, Khojalyyyyyyyyyyy Aerial bombardments of Artsakh Khojalyyyyyyyyyyy Shelling Stepanakert Khojalyyyyyyyyyyy The Baku, Artsakh, Nakhijevan genocidal acts in 1905 - 1906 Khojalyyyyyyyyyyy The Hamidian Genocide Khojalyyyyyyyyyyy The Adana Genocide in 1909 Khojalyyyyyyyyyyy The Marash massacres in 1920 by genocidal Hammal Cacaturk Khojalyyyyyyyyyyy The Smyrna burning in 1921 again by Ataturd Khojalyyyyyyyyyyy The Armenian Genocide 1071 - 2007 Khojalyyyyyyyyyyy, Khojalyyyyyyyyyyy, Khojalyyyyyyyyyyy, Khojalyyyyyyyyyyy, Khojalyyyyyyyyyyy, Khojalyyyyyyyyyyy, Khojalyyyyyyyyyyy, Khojalyyyyyyyyyyy, Khojalyyyyyyyyyyy, Khojalyyyyyyyyyyy, Khojalyyyyyyyyyyy, Khojalyyyyyyyyyyy, Khojalyyyyyyyyyyy, Khojalyyyyyyyyyyy... Well, thats the whole point isnt it...if we can get to the bottom of the 'Khojaly massacre by Armenians' they would have nothing to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Even if all that the Azeris say about Khojali is true, it can't be considered a genocide according to the UN definition. Nearly nothing they say about Khojali is true. Not because I am Armenian, but rather because it totally defy logic. I have access to various newspapers, and this from home. I have checked the preceding events before the attack. The 366 was hit from the Azeris position, soldiers were killed they have warned that they would be attacking. There was the day preceding an emergency meeting on Washington because of the Azeri attack on the army position. The official witnesses reports, even Azeris contradict what is the official Azeri government. The OMON were clearly with the mass of civilians shouting at Armenian positions, and many of the casualties were done because of the hardship of the situation and this was from the official reports. Goltz the pathological liar and his Turkish wife have engaged in a mass propaganda by dispatching articles in various newspapers who redistributed it as if it was cake. What army in the world, would shoot masses of civilians and then open a humaniterian corridor permitting the international press in to witness what they just did. It defy logic, because most of the deaths were retrieved from a zone not controled by the 366 or the Armenian army. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Error 404 Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Hellector, allthough I agree with you on many points but let me disagree with you about the children. It is sad when a child must die under any circumstances. I know they(azeris and turks) have killed many armenian children even unborn ones. But there is the difference. We can't go down to their level. When the legendary hero Monte Melkonyan took the city of Kelbajar azeri elderly people came and started to kiss his legs and asked for mercy. He did not let them do that because he had respect to old people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantom22 Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Fadi, I just want to say that you are a national treasure for your scholarly research into the facts of Khojaly. The Azeris accusations are a canard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Error 404 Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Interesting facts and documents from CIA about Arcax: http://www.haias.net/bilder/karabach_e5.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Error 404 Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Also see what azeri government does to it's own people! Imagine what it can do or could have done to armenians in Arcax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Interesting facts and documents from CIA about Arcax: http://www.haias.net/bilder/karabach_e5.html You know what answer you will recieve by an Azeri if you show them the actual files. They claim claim that it is from some obscure source and request the name, implying Armenians were the real authors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Error 404 Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Quebecker look to the page carefully. How about the link locations? http://www.foia.cia.gov/docs/DOC_000049869...498698_0009.gif I do not think cia has counterfeit documents made by armenians on their server. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Also see what azeri government does to it's own people! Imagine what it can do or could have done to armenians in Arcax. WTF sranq mard chen sranq d@joxqi Vijvatsqner en Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 Quebecker look to the page carefully. How about the link locations? http://www.foia.cia.gov/docs/DOC_000049869...498698_0009.gif I do not think cia has counterfeit documents made by armenians on their server. I know, what I have said is comming from an Azeri he has viewed those original copies on the CIA server. The Azeris conceptions of Armenians are much worster than those of Turks. The Turks past their nationalistic feelings could be good friends. The Azeris have this thing of their nationalism in their inner self and their persona. I had exchanged with a supposed Azeri "PhD" intellectual and have viewed their works. Laciner would sound as an angel compared to those pseudo-Intellectuals. This is what they believe, they believe that the "rich, rich" Armenian Diaspora is engaged in a worldwide conspiration, infiltrated everywhere and could drive the US government policies and even fabricate CIA files. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Error 404 Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 Well their conspiracies are theoretically and practically not possible. Noone will give them a credit. I guess they can bark as much as they want. That is because they have got no more arguments. "xextvogh@ prpurnerica kaxvum" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 Well their conspiracies are theoretically and practically not possible. Noone will give them a credit. I guess they can bark as much as they want. That is because they have got no more arguments. "xextvogh@ prpurnerica kaxvum" not possible? practicly no, but there is no such thing "theory" in politics, whats practical today may end up being smeones, other then azeries, best national interest dictated by the need of that day. some one wont hasitate to throw the bone! or be the bone, example? Isreal and Giorgia! Error jan, hishir vor prpurneri mej xextvogh@ kortsneu el ban chuni. and time anfter time again I have to remind my self the great old saying I got no one but myself to rely to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Error 404 Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 Edo jan, which civilized and educated human beeing will belive that armenian diaspora bought cia and the us government? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 Edo jan, which civilized and educated human beeing will belive that armenian diaspora bought cia and the us government? Dear Error, Edward is not saying they will believe in it. He is saying that they will use it (Therefore believe in it knowingly that it's not true) for their interests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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