Gabig Posted March 30, 2006 Report Share Posted March 30, 2006 I want to know how an Armenian girl in New York can find a nice Armenian boy?! I've dated all sorts of odars -- White, South Asian, Latin American, Jewish.... My family, of course, has hated them all (particularly the Latin American one. My mother once told me he reminded her of Satan...) and I'm kind of sick of getting puzzled looks from men when I talk on the phone in Armenian. What do you all think of interracial dating among the Armenian diaspora (as it is so difficult to find each other!)? I don't think it's a bad thing, I just am now starting to realize that it is important to me to find somebody that can connect with my culture. There seem to be none of us in New York. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melikian Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 I want to know how an Armenian girl in New York can find a nice Armenian boy?! I've dated all sorts of odars -- White, South Asian, Latin American, Jewish.... My family, of course, has hated them all (particularly the Latin American one. My mother once told me he reminded her of Satan...) and I'm kind of sick of getting puzzled looks from men when I talk on the phone in Armenian. What do you all think of interracial dating among the Armenian diaspora (as it is so difficult to find each other!)? I don't think it's a bad thing, I just am now starting to realize that it is important to me to find somebody that can connect with my culture. There seem to be none of us in New York. Don't give up,you can find a good Armenian, and you will not have any regrets. Avak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armjan Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 I want to know how an Armenian girl in New York can find a nice Armenian boy?! I've dated all sorts of odars -- White, South Asian, Latin American, Jewish.... My family, of course, has hated them all (particularly the Latin American one. My mother once told me he reminded her of Satan...) and I'm kind of sick of getting puzzled looks from men when I talk on the phone in Armenian. What do you all think of interracial dating among the Armenian diaspora (as it is so difficult to find each other!)? I don't think it's a bad thing, I just am now starting to realize that it is important to me to find somebody that can connect with my culture. There seem to be none of us in New York. have u tried armenian online dating sites. i think ppl from all over are on it, and i am sure there is some nice guy out there who's lookin. its sad to see armenian girls going out with odars, not that i am pointing a finger, i just feel like one of my sisters is with a stranger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabig Posted March 31, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 have u tried armenian online dating sites. i think ppl from all over are on it, and i am sure there is some nice guy out there who's lookin. its sad to see armenian girls going out with odars, not that i am pointing a finger, i just feel like one of my sisters is with a stranger. I've seen them, but I've always been kind of hesitant about online dating. It seems kind of trashy (and sketchy) to me. But then again, with Armenians, you're talking about a very small community and it may be a necessity... how do you feel about Armenian dating websites? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eva Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 Hi, well i think when the time comes you'll find the right person in you life and will be very happy. The important thing to remember is to be always happy even if you are single. I find online dating kind of interesting; however, the person that you are going to meet there would be a complete stranger and it is going to take "Time" to know each other very well. Also, there are millions of possibilities out there.You never know for sure what the other person is doing in his/her life. Well i don't think online dating is a awful act to be involved in; it's just takes time to find the right person. Be patient and think about reaching your goals for the future. "The way to love anything is to realize that it may be lost." - Gilbert K. Chesterton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 I've seen them, but I've always been kind of hesitant about online dating. It seems kind of trashy (and sketchy) to me. ... How is it different than any other "dating".... By the way, "online dating" is a misnomer I think. The more appropriate term is "online meeting". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kakachik77 Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 I think hyesingles.com has an interesting combination of Armenians from all walks of life, it's definately worth checking out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armjan Posted April 1, 2006 Report Share Posted April 1, 2006 when i used online dating, it was good b/c you can ask the questions important to you and hear the answers and see if u want to continue. just be careful, i used to hear from some girls that some guys ask for u'r pic and then threaten to post it on other sites. Just talk to the person first, get a feel and then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aSoldier Posted April 1, 2006 Report Share Posted April 1, 2006 IMO the whole concept of online dating seems stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted April 1, 2006 Report Share Posted April 1, 2006 IMO the whole concept of online dating seems stupid. How about other types of dating? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymouse Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 I've seen them, but I've always been kind of hesitant about online dating. It seems kind of trashy (and sketchy) to me. But then again, with Armenians, you're talking about a very small community and it may be a necessity... how do you feel about Armenian dating websites? First of all, this image and notion people seem to have these days, this "aversion" of online dating is nonsense. What is it with all these uptight self absorbed people of "I am too good to date online" and "It seems somewhat shady", or "You're destined to meet some wacko". Times and technology are changing society and the individual bonds within it. So the internet dating is now more mainstream and "the way" now, than ever before, and it will continue to be so and grow. The more life becomes busy and down to the nanosecond, people just figure it is a more economic use of their time as opposed to "going out" and "dating around" until you find someone. It allows for you to automatically narrow down your choices and matches, which I assume is a good thing, as opposed to endless dating and wasting time and money. As far as interracial dating among Armenians, it is a counter productive trend for Armenians, which more and more is becoming the norm. People forget that what is at stake here are civilizations and peoples and the iron tides and centrifugal forces of history do not play jokes or give people second chances. It's the real deal. While you may think it's all "nice and fun" and "expanding your horizons culturally", it is harmful and eventually, if continued as an excessive and ever growing trend, foretells the decline and disappearance of an already endangered species known as the Armenians. If you don't believe me, just ask the Romans or the Phoenicians, or the Assyrians where they are today. (And no, you can't point to the fact that there are Assyrian communities and so that therefore somehow is a counter to my argument. The Assyrians are practically an obliterated people who will never again possess numbers or a high culture.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaunt Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 White girls please! Specially one with red hair, freckles, pale skin, and light colored eyes, . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armjan Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 White girls please! Specially one with red hair, freckles, pale skin, and light colored eyes, . no man lol, armenian girls who eat baneer with chay, they're the one's who lookin out for the kids Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melikian Posted April 13, 2006 Report Share Posted April 13, 2006 As far as interracial dating among Armenians, it is a counter productive trend for Armenians, which more and more is becoming the norm. People forget that what is at stake here are civilizations and peoples and the iron tides and centrifugal forces of history do not play jokes or give people second chances. It's the real deal. While you may think it's all "nice and fun" and "expanding your horizons culturally", it is harmful and eventually, if continued as an excessive and ever growing trend, foretells the decline and disappearance of an already endangered species known as the Armenians. If you don't believe me, just ask the Romans or the Phoenicians, or the Assyrians where they are today. (And no, you can't point to the fact that there are Assyrian communities and so that therefore somehow is a counter to my argument. The Assyrians are practically an obliterated people who will never again possess numbers or a high culture.) I agree with you completly. If the trend continues, we will do to ourselves what the Turks were unable to do. Armenians need to marry each other, have larger families and return to Armenia if possible. Avak Melikian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armjan Posted April 13, 2006 Report Share Posted April 13, 2006 so i wonder, what will it take for ppl to go back to armenia? i mean, let's think for a min, where will armenia be in 8 yrs as ppl continue to leave? i've never been there, other than unemployement, what are some other reasons why armenians leave armenia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aSoldier Posted April 13, 2006 Report Share Posted April 13, 2006 How about other types of dating? I say NO to blind/speed dating also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takoush Posted April 13, 2006 Report Share Posted April 13, 2006 (edited) As far as interracial dating among Armenians, it is a counter productive trend for Armenians, which more and more is becoming the norm. People forget that what is at stake here are civilizations and peoples and the iron tides and centrifugal forces of history do not play jokes or give people second chances. It's the real deal. While you may think it's all "nice and fun" and "expanding your horizons culturally", it is harmful and eventually, if continued as an excessive and ever growing trend, foretells the decline and disappearance of an already endangered species known as the Armenians. If you don't believe me, just ask the Romans or the Phoenicians, or the Assyrians where they are today. (And no, you can't point to the fact that there are Assyrian communities and so that therefore somehow is a counter to my argument. The Assyrians are practically an obliterated people who will never again possess numbers or a high culture.) Anonymouse, I agree with all you're saying above one hundred percent. Not only I agree, but I've been saying it all along ever since I've joined this Forum last year sometime in August. Interracial marriage is the death of a nation. In this case the Armenian nation. Same as you said already above, there has been already a vast amount of exodus from Armenia and coming here to marry with "odars" that is non Armenians will be the fastest way of the death of the Armenians that are already scarce. Before I have joined this forum I have met one of those Turkish sites that pin pointed just that. Meaning the fact that since the diaspora Armenians are not in their lands they are already inter-marrying with non-Armenians and therefore will vanish soon and therefore they will be non existence. THEREFORE, YES INTER-RACIAL MARRIAGE IS AND WILL BE THE ULTIMATE AND THE FASTEST DEATH OF THE ARMENIAN NATION. Edited April 13, 2006 by Anahid Takouhi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymouse Posted April 13, 2006 Report Share Posted April 13, 2006 (edited) Anonymouse, I agree with all you're saying above one hundred percent. Not only I agree, but I've been saying it all along ever since I've joined this Forum last year sometime in August. Interracial marriage is the death of a nation. In this case the Armenian nation. Same as you said already above, there has been already a vast amount of exodus from Armenia and coming here to marry with "odars" that is non Armenians will be the fastest way of the death of the Armenians that are already scarce. Before I have joined this forum I have met one of those Turkish sites that pin pointed just that. Meaning the fact that since the diaspora Armenians are not in their lands they are already inter-marrying with non-Armenians and therefore will vanish soon and therefore they will be non existence. THEREFORE, YES INTER-RACIAL MARRIAGE IS AND WILL BE THE ULTIMATE AND THE FASTEST DEATH OF THE ARMENIAN NATION. The sad thing is, Armenians don't care, don't see or choose not to see. Everywhere from the halls and corridors of Washington, D.C., to the soundbytes of television news and the text of print media, we are assured by the Ministry of Truth and Tolerance that "race is no more" and we are all "essentially the same". What better way to get people to believe in bogus truths than to repeat the same canard for years? And so throughout the years, most people have been used to this gentle and subtle propaganda since they have heard it since birth from every orifice of communication. Why question this? It would lead to thinking that threatens to peel off the veneer of illusions. And certainly, no one wants to admit that they have been duped. In this age, advocating for the self-preservation of your race and people and noting that there are biological differences among the peoples of earth, it is considered "racist". In fact, people are far more consumed and concerned with being racist or being perceived as racist they they let far more heinous and vile acts go by, so long as they do not veer off into the forbidden territory of racism. Racism right now occupies a more sinful act in the minds of the stupid, foolish and enervated Americans and Europeans than murder, or deceit, etc. Meanwhile, Armenians are digging their own grave, and what the Turks did not finish Armenians will do it with their own hands all thanks to forgetting that it is the blood that makes the people and the culture and not the other way around. All this probably would cause a hippie egalitarian to have an aneurysm or a heart attack since they will probably perceive it as "social darwinist" in its face value. Currently, this notion of "we are all equal" and "let's all hold hands and mix" is being promoted only in the Western world. Europeans and Americans are not only low in birthrates, but they are filling their ranks and their cities with non-nationals and mixing as well. No one is seriously considering ruining the cultural and ethnic make up of their society, certianly not China, not the Koreas, not Japan, which is why Asia will be the next center of civilization. But this notion of diversity and accepting multiculturalism by default as somehow society cannot be any other way, is entirely the suicidal pastime of the Westenr world. Armenians fall in that category becuase Armenia already has a negative population growth, a high emigration rate, and the diasporans are slowly being thrown into the melange of multicultral bliss. We are all assured its all gravy, but if we don't stop we will literally be gravy. While the Muslims fueled by their ideology are breeding like poisonous mushrooms, Armenians breed at historic lows. You see it's not that I "hate" non Armenians. I will say hi. I will do business, I even have friends. I have lived enough in southern California and I have read enough to have an understanding of the diversity of races, cultures and peoples to know that this diversity is worth protecting. And certainly I have had enough exposure to "diversity" so that the oft repeated insult about how those with my views are "narrow minded" and have not had an adequate exposure to other cultures and peoples, is worthless. In fact, I have probably had far more exposure to diversity than many egalitarians and I have come to conclude that there are differences worth protecting. And wanting to protect and preserve these differences and my people is not "racist". On the contrary, it is the most human thing anyone can do and far more human than an ideal that threatens to make people no better than mixed dogs with little or no other ability beyond dumpster diving. People who forget that, forget to last as people. Edited April 13, 2006 by Anonymouse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aSoldier Posted April 13, 2006 Report Share Posted April 13, 2006 The sad thing is, Armenians don't care, don't see or choose not to see. Everywhere from the halls and corridors of Washington, D.C., to the soundbytes of television news and the text of print media, we are assured by the Ministry of Truth and Tolerance that "race is no more" and we are all "essentially the same". What better way to get people to believe in bogus truths than to repeat the same canard for years? And so throughout the years, most people have been used to this gentle and subtle propaganda since they have heard it since birth from every orifice of communication. Why question this? It would lead to thinking that threatens to peel off the veneer of illusions. And certainly, no one wants to admit that they have been duped. In this age, advocating for the self-preservation of your race and people and noting that there are biological differences among the peoples of earth, it is considered "racist". In fact, people are far more consumed and concerned with being racist or being perceived as racist they they let far more heinous and vile acts go by, so long as they do not veer off into the forbidden territory of racism. Racism right now occupies a more sinful act in the minds of the stupid, foolish and enervated Americans and Europeans than murder, or deceit, etc. Meanwhile, Armenians are digging their own grave, and what the Turks did not finish Armenians will do it with their own hands all thanks to forgetting that it is the blood that makes the people and the culture and not the other way around. All this probably would cause a hippie egalitarian to have an aneurysm or a heart attack since they will probably perceive it as "social darwinist" in its face value. Currently, this notion of "we are all equal" and "let's all hold hands and mix" is being promoted only in the Western world. Europeans and Americans are not only low in birthrates, but they are filling their ranks and their cities with non-nationals and mixing as well. No one is seriously considering ruining the cultural and ethnic make up of their society, certianly not China, not the Koreas, not Japan, which is why Asia will be the next center of civilization. But this notion of diversity and accepting multiculturalism by default as somehow society cannot be any other way, is entirely the suicidal pastime of the Westenr world. Armenians fall in that category becuase Armenia already has a negative population growth, a high emigration rate, and the diasporans are slowly being thrown into the melange of multicultral bliss. We are all assured its all gravy, but if we don't stop we will literally be gravy. While the Muslims fueled by their ideology are breeding like poisonous mushrooms, Armenians breed at historic lows. You see it's not that I "hate" non Armenians. I will say hi. I will do business, I even have friends. I have lived enough in southern California and I have read enough to have an understanding of the diversity of races, cultures and peoples to know that this diversity is worth protecting. And certainly I have had enough exposure to "diversity" so that the oft repeated insult about how those with my views are "narrow minded" and have not had an adequate exposure to other cultures and peoples, is worthless. In fact, I have probably had far more exposure to diversity than many egalitarians and I have come to conclude that there are differences worth protecting. And wanting to protect and preserve these differences and my people is not "racist". On the contrary, it is the most human thing anyone can do and far more human than an ideal that threatens to make people no better than mixed dogs with little or no other ability beyond dumpster diving. People who forget that, forget to last as people. Pure excellence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takoush Posted April 13, 2006 Report Share Posted April 13, 2006 (edited) The sad thing is, Armenians don't care, don't see or choose not to see. Everywhere from the halls and corridors of Washington, D.C., to the soundbytes of television news and the text of print media, we are assured by the Ministry of Truth and Tolerance that "race is no more" and we are all "essentially the same". What better way to get people to believe in bogus truths than to repeat the same canard for years? And so throughout the years, most people have been used to this gentle and subtle propaganda since they have heard it since birth from every orifice of communication. Why question this? It would lead to thinking that threatens to peel off the veneer of illusions. And certainly, no one wants to admit that they have been duped. In this age, advocating for the self-preservation of your race and people and noting that there are biological differences among the peoples of earth, it is considered "racist". In fact, people are far more consumed and concerned with being racist or being perceived as racist they they let far more heinous and vile acts go by, so long as they do not veer off into the forbidden territory of racism. Racism right now occupies a more sinful act in the minds of the stupid, foolish and enervated Americans and Europeans than murder, or deceit, etc. Meanwhile, Armenians are digging their own grave, and what the Turks did not finish Armenians will do it with their own hands all thanks to forgetting that it is the blood that makes the people and the culture and not the other way around. All this probably would cause a hippie egalitarian to have an aneurysm or a heart attack since they will probably perceive it as "social darwinist" in its face value. Currently, this notion of "we are all equal" and "let's all hold hands and mix" is being promoted only in the Western world. Europeans and Americans are not only low in birthrates, but they are filling their ranks and their cities with non-nationals and mixing as well. No one is seriously considering ruining the cultural and ethnic make up of their society, certianly not China, not the Koreas, not Japan, which is why Asia will be the next center of civilization. But this notion of diversity and accepting multiculturalism by default as somehow society cannot be any other way, is entirely the suicidal pastime of the Westenr world. Armenians fall in that category becuase Armenia already has a negative population growth, a high emigration rate, and the diasporans are slowly being thrown into the melange of multicultral bliss. We are all assured its all gravy, but if we don't stop we will literally be gravy. While the Muslims fueled by their ideology are breeding like poisonous mushrooms, Armenians breed at historic lows. You see it's not that I "hate" non Armenians. I will say hi. I will do business, I even have friends. I have lived enough in southern California and I have read enough to have an understanding of the diversity of races, cultures and peoples to know that this diversity is worth protecting. And certainly I have had enough exposure to "diversity" so that the oft repeated insult about how those with my views are "narrow minded" and have not had an adequate exposure to other cultures and peoples, is worthless. In fact, I have probably had far more exposure to diversity than many egalitarians and I have come to conclude that there are differences worth protecting. And wanting to protect and preserve these differences and my people is not "racist". On the contrary, it is the most human thing anyone can do and far more human than an ideal that threatens to make people no better than mixed dogs with little or no other ability beyond dumpster diving. People who forget that, forget to last as people. Anonymouse: Your words and your wording and lingo are excuisite but much more than your wonderful lingo and how beautifully you phrased your words is your idealism and the thruthfulness of your words. You spoke my mind and my heart but you spoke better than I could've spoke. Thank you. Also I wish people would read Armenian General Karekin Nejteh's booklet and it says in it that being cosmpolitan is being sellfish, senseless and serving no one but yourself and further in time the human being will be destructive. Preserving and working for the preservation of your nation can be both rewarding and fulfilling. It can also be useful to the world rather than opting for being a cosmopolitan, but we as Armenians should learn to sacrifice a little and marry our own kind. A little sacrifice here is in order. Alas, if the trend of the Armenians continue NOT TO CARE TO WED ONLY AMONG THEMSELVES, we shall also become useless cosmopolitans on this earth, without a country, without Armenia and without Armenian culture. So the choice is ours, MARRY WITH AN ARMENIAN, TO YOUR OWN KIND OR VANISH. Edited April 13, 2006 by Anahid Takouhi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maral Posted April 13, 2006 Report Share Posted April 13, 2006 "The way to love anything is to realize that it may be lost." - Gilbert K. Chesterton great quote! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kakachik77 Posted April 13, 2006 Report Share Posted April 13, 2006 (edited) Anynomous, don't you think that statements like this alienates a lot of Armenains. You are artificially excluding people who are yes married to human being who happen not to originate from that piece of be rock called Ermenistan. Sooner or later we will disappear, this is inevitable...and guess what when we do...the world will continue at its normal pace...this is part of life...take a long break and relax. Edited April 13, 2006 by kakachik77 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eva Posted April 13, 2006 Report Share Posted April 13, 2006 (edited) Thank you Maral, even though it's not by me... Edited April 13, 2006 by konfetka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted April 13, 2006 Report Share Posted April 13, 2006 (edited) Has anyone heard of the word “conversion”. For those not well versed in the English language, in this context it is դաւանանփոխում in Armenian. Or is that an only a one way street? Why is it that every mixed marriage must be a convert out and not the way in??!! Can we learn to welcome those potential converts into our folds?! Or is it the old hackneyed Armenian adage propagated by our ignorant clerry that an Armenian is born such, and cannot be not made. Keep it up and see if anyone would convert to become an Armenian. Look at Turkey. More than 50% of those who today say "Blessed is who that professes to be a Turk" were once Armenians, either by default or design. Would a Polish or Italian choose to convert to become Armenian? Can we show them that our cultute is better? No. I don't mean our culture of Genocide. Has anyone surveyed the stats on this forum? Genocide, 1117 topics, 9005 responses. How many have the likes of Komitas earned? I don't know. Look it up yourselves. Who, in their right mind would want to join us?? Edited April 13, 2006 by Arpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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