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Accel - sorry but don't know what a yobbo is... And no - there is no formal dress policy that i know of..hey I'm ussually OK/not so bad..but definalty not a suit & tie guy whenever i can avoid it...and sometimes I go quite a bit more casual...which is just unexpected...but I can sometimes go an entire day without hardly even seeing anyone...or with just seeing folks that are working for me (so who am I impressing anyway - etc) - but yeah - if the situation warrents - I dress the part (I just hate it thats all...LOL) And yeah on occasion I've been dressed down when i shouldn't have been - surprised visitor or an unexpected meeting comes up..but whats the big deal about wearing a tie anyway...LOL..I've never figured it out...

Very interesting. Thanks for the post. When you see something like this initiative by Turkey to actually encourage hate...it really makes you wonder...who are these people in their government who feel the need to think this way - to be so nasty about it etc etc - turns ones stomach really... But very good to see that this is generating opposition within the country...this could really turn out to be a boon!

Yeah Sev mard - I've heard that one too...but in the end i think its 6 of one 1/2 dozen of the other type of thing...and I've rarely heard any guy complaining so much regardless...LOL

Well Extra I do hear you...but I'm just different I guess. Sure I put on the suit and tie for certain functions/meetings and what have you (as needed)...but often there is this requirement to always be dressed as such when all one is doing is working at their desk or with folks where it shouldn't matter - at least that's how I see it. And I've worked in a Suit & Tie type of environment since I was 18...but have always felt that much of it was silly..so perhaps by 21-22 began to make my own rules and dress "professionally" only/primarily when there was a reason for it etc. Definatly it freaked my bosses & such out - but unless they could give me a complelling reason I pretty much always told them to stuff it (luckily I've always been a valued employee...LOL) But my defiance in this regard is also part of a long tradition of mine. For instance in High School i went through a period where i refused to wear shoes (I perfer barefoot whenever possible..or nearly so...I've been on many a vacation where all I take is a pair of sandals - even once for a winter vacation to Europe!...and I always manage...everyone thought I was a German - wearing my Birkenstocks with socks - LOL). Anyway - you can imagine the flack I had to put up with at school (sure send me home what do I care! etc)...also had this problem with going to restaurants..."I've been thrown out of better places then this was a frequent line uttered" LOL I'm just a troublemaker/problem case...what can I say...I know it...LOL

Wow...all these comments...pretty wild... Well I'm very typical of males born in the USA these past I don't know 40-50 years maybe (don't know when the practice came widely into vogue)...and thus am circumscised...and also after much discussion/debate we decided to have our two boys cut as well (the docs wouldn't let me participate/view which I thought was a pretty primitive attitude..they said too many folks get upset..etc). Anyway there are pros and cons (from many aspects)...but I'm happy with the decision (for me/my boys) as I do think hygeine is better - even if perhaps a non-issue if you are properly attentive etc. I can also see why it would be more apealing to gals (particualrly those such as hyebruin...with such sensibilities)...but perhaps Stormy also has a good point (but is it just the point that matters? LOL....perhaps a poll is in order eh? LOL (literally? LOL) Recently I heard a guy on the radio talking about having been circumsised as an adult (ouch!)....he claims that sex is much better for him now - that he has added feeling etc (though could be a problem for many guys eh? WHo have trouble enough with that sort of thing [happens to the best of course...just don't want it to happen all the time...and good to be blessed with swift recovery etc if it does...also an incentive to learn other "skills" perhaps less dependent on a full mast condition...(this was not my incentive for developing such however...LOL)...anyway - yeah - someone should put together a Pole poll! LOL (for ladies only to answer of course) And I'd be interested if there is any correlation on the shaven- unshaven issue (for gals...guys? hm - LOL) - with the High Heel and other female adornment and such issue. That is if there is a correlation between those who perfer au natural in make-up/ferfume/casual dress (and to not shave/alter etc) versus those who like to augment/modify etc for the benefit of guys/others etc or for whatever reasons...maybe coments could do here...(versus a poll...not sure how to do one to do the issue justice..). And do folks see just shaving as the equivilant of such things as heels, make-up, tattos or what have you..or is it a lesser action etc?

Yeah - both cars seem like a lot of fun...my preference has been with Subi's - but I can see why someone might perfer the mits certainly...(have never driven either of their top ends) Met a guy the other day with a very similarly equipped S4 like mine...said he lost a drag with an EVo (so now he is looking to hop his S4 up more!)...well I say its all in the driver (LOL)

Cool - I have a few of those...as well as some old bourbon bottles and such and the like....not a big/specifil collector of it - but I think old glass stuff can be pretty cool...

LOL - well I have frequently had an issue in my work experience where I tend to dress more casually then is normally accepted in some cases etc. Specifically I hate wearing ties...and also am not much for shoes (work type in particular) (and I rarely wear any make - up ! LOL). I also sometimes wear hawian shirts, phillipino type shirts, guavera shirtes etc...wear the normal mode of dress is suit & tie..LOL (and have been doing this nearly my entire [long] career. F - em I say... I have several tie instances that I could tell about. One time (a while back) I had this fairly attractive lady supervisor (who tended to wear pretty revealing/risque/non-traditional outfits...very nice of course...but..) - well she felt that I wasn't dressing up to the standard or such - and specifically didn't like the fact that I wore some unusual ties & such (when i wore one at all...). So one day I brought every tie I owned into the office as well as some shirts and told her to pick out what she wanted me to wear!/what would be acceptable to her LOL (I though it was pretty funny). (I also suggested that she could shop for me if it was such a big issue for her...) Well for some reason she still had an issue (maybe I played around a bit with the combinations I don't know...LOL) so I basically complained above her level about her outfits - that I found them unacceptable - or at least questionable - if anyone (her) was questioning my appearence...and I even turned it into an EEO type of complaint (as she had mentioned my appearence in my rating) - comparing inconsitancies in (not formally stated) standards for dress between men and women with racial, sexaul and other types of discrimination (even bearded versus unbeared etc - biases against such - and how there is no bearing on performance etc etc)...well everything ended up getting dropped pretty quickly and folks left me alone - LOL (not the first or last time that my supervisors learned not to mess with me...LOL) I've also sometimes been known to wear sandals into work (in part/primarily because of an injury where I had surgery...etc...but of course a good excuse...wore them for months and months after...) - and this certainly didn't go over well either. I actually go without a tie more often then I wear one (prompting me to ask folks on halloween if they noticed my "costume" - ie - tie on...etc)...am wearing one today - why - i don't know...but got to keep em off balance sometimes I guess..

I don't think its always a direct correlation. Certainly there are generic factors...but environment (including proper nutrition and avoidance of harmful stuff etc) and most importantly (early) education I think (and studies are showing0 are just as important or more. Of course there arre "natural" geniueses - and some - but not all seem to be born to fairly intelligent parents...but I don't think it is at all a one to one. Please don't take my answer as gospel though - or what anyone may likely say here - search it out in books or on the internet (if you really are curious) etc (and then let us know what you find)....and are you planning on givign your b/f an IQ test anytime soon? LOL

Yeah - your totally correct about this guy Domino...

Yeah they al have been good and creative...kudo's. I once had one that I was going to use but it was too long so I gave up...even forgot what it was now...

Phantom I hear you. And agree - no banning etc IMO. For many years I've considered doing as you do over and Turkey.com (and I actually have interest in discussing other aspects of Turkey as well - as I have travelled there 3 times and [hope this doesn't upset folks] but love the country...and the people too...what can I say....but its too much of a hassel to bother with right now...anyway bst of luck (you'll need it0 and I do approve of what you do...

Sasun - there is no God. And thats final. And BTW - what you say is untrue on all levels...(about me etc)... And please don't get me angry at you...

nasty - yea thoughts can be respected...so far you have shown us nothing worhty of respect - only contempt and pity... Nasty - do you realize that nearly every single Armenian that I know - including myself - has lost relatives in the Genocide of 1915. And we are decendants of the survivors...many many families perished utterly. You are so without a clue. You should be here down on your knees asking for forgiveness.

Sure I agree...and can't really say - but it certainly does the trick for me! LOL (So I really can't complain...only sympathyze with the gals who wear such)..and if its not for you (or others) thats OK too...less is often better/best IMO! ...I must say though - and I'm sure most guys would agree - the old high heels and bikini look is just to die for!

BTW - Toynbee reiterated the factualness of the accounts well after the war when there would be any need to keep up a pretense etc. And while the blue book may have been used as propaganda - the bottom line is that it is comprised of true accounts - and these are largely corroberated by other sources - incliuding those of Turkish allies - the Germans and the Austrians - all painting a very clear picture. So you nasty little turkey - go and stuff yourself.

LOL - well I can agree with you here (to some degree) - I prefer gals natural..in all respects...but like Accel said sometimes dressing up nice and such is a good/fun thing...son't blame anyone for diliking whearing heels though...though I for one love the look...yum yum!

Super post phantom (though you can understand now with Domino's info on who this guy is why I didn't waste time with him - though you did lay iit all out in your typical beautiful and balanced fashion. And I second his invite for you! Stay awhile ya hear...

Very good point Azat. It is important to understand the context of the comment/post to get the sarcasm. Regardless its very nice to see the gals on the forum getting all hot and fired up - particularly about geting dressed up sexy for us guys! LOL (I mean what red blooded male can complain about that eh?)...though instead of (misdirected) personal attacks I should like to see the gals tell us what they do to look nice for their guys! (and perhaps why they feel they need or wish to do so - etc) LOL

Domino - both excellent points and I agree 100%. I am not of the opinion that Armenia should neciisarily represent all Armenians etc - only that as a nation State - and an Armenian one - they need to be a major player - for a variety of reasons...all I have time for now - got to run,....

Well personally I hate lawyers (sorry gams0 - though have a few as friends...but the answer ifs "yes" if thats how I would win my case...

Nice post Domino...from the heart..and I share some of your feelings that you have expressed...but I too feel as Azat and the others....and I do not feel tat Armenian is my "homeland" per se..so I don't see that you have really answered to objections to your position (sorry...because I really liked this post of yours...)

See - math can be fun!

Yes - accel - very nice - your team did well...but I'm breathing right down your throat....

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