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We'll leave this one untranslated (I could PM anyone interested)..anyway...for those who know Dutch (I thinkits Dutch...anyway..) - enjoy... FZ (again - of course...) Stick It Out Fick mich, du miserabler hurensohn Du miserabler hurensohn Fick mich, du miserabler hurensohn Streck ihn aus Streck aus deinem heißen gelockten Streck ihn aus Streck aus deinem heißen gelockten Streck ihn aus Streck aus deinem heißen gelockten schwanz Mach es sehr schnell Rein und raus Magisches Schwein Mach es sehr schnell Rein und raus Magisches Schwein Bis es spritzt, spritzt, spritzt, spritzt Feuer! Bis es spritzt, spritzt, spritzt, spritzt Feuer! Aber beklecker nicht das Sofa, Sofa! Aber beklecker nicht das Sofa, Sofa! Aber beklecker nicht das Sofa, Sofa! Aber beklecker nicht das Sofa, Sofa!

Yeah Sev Marde...don't worry about it...its cool (and your entirely correct)...and lots of things annoy Steve..nearly everything does really - its just him - Mr negative - if there ever was one...so carry on...and by all means go right ahead and continue to annoy Steve...which means just exist...because that alone is annoying to Steve no doubt...so i wouldn't worry about it much...

And here are some (nice) lyrics in Dutch (I believe)...with translation...(also could be posted in the religion thread...LOL) Frank Zappa - Sofa #2... Ich bin der Himmel Ich bin das Wasser (I am the heaven I am the water) Ich bin der Dreck unter deinen Walzen Ich bin dein geheimer Schmutz Und verlorenes Metallgeld Ich bin deine Ritze Ich bin deine Ritze und Schlitze (I am the dirt beneath your rollers I am your secret smut And lost metal money I am your cracks I am your cracks & crannies) Ich bin Wolke Ich bin bestickt (I am the clouds I am embroidered) Ich bin der Autor aller Felgen Und Damast Paspeln Ich bin der Chrome Dinette Ich bin der Chrome Dinette Ich bin Eier aller Arten (I am the author of all tucks And damask piping I am The Chrome Dinette I am The Chrome Dinette I am eggs of all persuasions) Ich bin alle Tage und Nächte Ich bin alle Tage und Nächte Ich bin hier Und du bist mein Sofa Ich bin hier Und du bist mein Sofa Ich bin hier Und du bist mein Sofa (I am all days and nights I am all days and nights I am here And you are my sofa I am here And you are my sofa I am here And you are my sofa)

No but it is rejecting science (and all evidence) as any kind of revelation of truth and relying instead on the theory that if you chew bubble gum your headache will be cured or brush your teeth 3 times daily to get into heaven - all very nice - and perhaps there is some remote chance that indeed it might be true - but you could claim that many millions of other arbitrary statements are true as well - just because you believe them to be - with no wweight of any evidence of any kind...etc...so sorry...

Well..not...and aprently very few - if any have bothered to read my extensive clips and links etc which very clearly detail why eveolution is - for all intensive purposes - fact - and why creation theory is in no way scientific or at all plausable....anyway...as to what can be proven by mathmatics - I have come accross this (LOL): http://history.mithec.com/updated-7search.html Oh and BTW - I am still awaiting - with baited breath - Domino's take on all of this..and wonder if he will address real meaningful issues in this debate or just spin off on some (for all intensive purposes) meaningless logic and or semantics tangent...or if he will just do his usual of late and take up a position in opposition to anything I might say...sad really...oh well...

SlowJam are you Sev Marde's sister? Anyway...more.. Sandwiches of You (Creme/Godley) I'd like to know you better And maybe take you home I'd like to meet your father But really not tonight We'll be stopping off at Dayvilles For pistachio and beer It's the flavour of the month but You're my flavour of the year I could eat Sandwiches of you You could eat Sandwiches of me Oh my papa He will not approve He won't like your car Or the way that you conduct yourself In public Your move. Shame, shame on you I want to keep this friendship platonic I respect the fact that you're waiting For Mister Right Am I wrong? Let's pull over Please let's pull over And discuss the ramifications Of a lasting and complex relationship Like mature and responsible people do Am I getting through? I could eat Sandwiches of you You could eat Sandwiches of me I could eat Sandwiches of you You could eat Sandwiches of me

Business is Business (Creme/Godley) Keep it simple Keep it neat Aim your hook At the man in the street Throw him the bones But freeze the meat 'Cos the meat goes off But the beat goes on Business is business Business is business Business is business And only the tough survive Radio fallout In an open prison Jazz-based soul tinged Watered down rhythm Too many pretty sleeves With Nothing in 'em Johnny be good or bad But not indifferent Hard-core bland-out Stocking filler Soft-sell overkill Tee-shirts given Everybody's wearing them See you at the party tonight M.O.R. is good M.O.R. is safe M.O.R. is here Just give it to 'em Never think about it Force fed On half dead melodies Dragged up from the archives Playing on your sympathies I'm being brain-washed And don't know how to block it 'Cos something in the chorus Burns a hole in my pocket And I can't feel the pain When my finger's in the socket And only the numb survive Only the numb survive Only the numb survive Business is business Business is business Business is business Everyone was doing it You weren't at the party last night M.O.R. is good M.O.R. is safe M.O.R. is you M.O.R. is here Where Relax, Relax Relax, Relax Relax, Relax Relax, Relax Maybe you can think of a way To turn me on

And another... The Sporting Life (Creme/Godley) Are you bored? Are you jaded? Has all the enthusiasm faded? Are you one of those people Like glazed fruit Who sit there in shell-shock Till the dot on your screen disappears? Are you one of those people Or are you just afraid? Are you one who craves excitement Were you tailor made For this sporting life? Living on a knife edge This sporting life's forever changing Are you one of these people? The keys please quick Every second counts I've signed the book Gimme the keys The elevator opens its mouth Like Jonah and the whale The elevator spits me out Into a freak show It's a freak show And into a swarm of flies Do.....do not disturb Do.....do not disturb The sign on the door read: Do not disturb Strange looks from the bellman As he takes me down the hallway through a firedoor to a stairwell Skidding, skidding, skidding, skidding Out of control, out of control Do.....do not disturb Do.....do not disturb The sign on the door read The sign on the door said The sign on the door read Do not disturb This is the Bad Samaritans Hello loved one Sorry there was nobody here To take your call personally However, we understand What you're going through How you've travelled life's highway With your smile on upside-down And now you think you've found The ultimate answer to all your problems Don't be hasty Why waste a life Wait until there's a crowd down below Give a little when you go Are you one of these people? Jump jump jump jump jump...... There's a fruitcake in the window Someone fetch the cops For God's sake get a camera Before the bastard drops A little to the left A little to the right A little to the left Maybe tonight's the night Why are we waiting? We're waiting A little to the left Right down the middle A little to the right X marks the spot You ain't gonna be On This is Your Life's tonight This sporting life Needs organising We'd gladly lose the cup If we could stick the knife in This sporting life This sporting life This sporting life's forever changing Are you bored? Are you jaded? Has all enthusiasm faded Are you one of those people?

And another from them (must be heard to really be apreciated...) I Pity Inanimate Objects (Creme/Godley) I pity inanimate objects Because they can't move From specks of dust to paperweights Or a pound note sealed in resin Plastic Santas in perpetual underwater snowstorms Sculptures that appear to be moving But aren't I feel sorry for them all What are they thinking When they arrive at a place Do they sigh with disappointment And when they leave Do they have regrets? Is a sofa as happy in one corner As it is in another And how does the room feel about it? I pity inanimate objects I pity inanimate objects I pity inanimate objects I pity them all Physics isn't fair Is a tree as a rocking horse An ambition fulfilled And is the sawdust jealous? I worry about these things Peppercorns don't move Until they contaminate the ice-cream Three weeks later Is the gold in Fort Knox happy gold? I care about these things Some things are better left alone Grains of sand prefer their own company But magnets are two faced No choice for sugar But what choice could there be But to drown in coffee or to drown in tea The frustrations of being inanimate Maybe its better that way The fewer the moving parts The less there is to go wrong I wonder about these things I pity inanimate objects I pity inanimate objects I pity inanimate objects I pity them all

Couldnt resist - this is great stuff - for those not familiar (most everyone I imagine)... Random Brainwave (Creme/Godley) Early warning Stranger on the radar Ripple in the wavelength Leave it in the hands of fate Nobody noticed the difference in the readout The sadness in the answer A twist in the logic P.E.R.S.O.N.A.L.I.T.Y. P.E.R.S.O.N.A.L.I.T.Y. Low-key discussions Rumble round the test-bed Egg-heads in a huddle A softening of the solid-state Static alphabet Rigid stabbing monotone There's positive or negative But no inbetween Are you blind? Are you looking through a broken pair of eyes Are you ill-equipped to hear me? Random brainwave Groping for receivers Are you deaf? Are you one of the cogs Too busy probing the pleasure centres of dogs To get near me Nobody noticed The difference in the readout The sadness in the answer A twist in the logic

So are you refereing to the Annukai here? And do you believe that they crafted man by corssing their genetics with that of te apes? etc etc

Well lets just leave them to your (active and entirely sufficient) imagination...shall we!

I see no evidence of - nor can I concieve of a person being something beyond the chemical existences of the body...we very much are who we are because of our physical aspect...it is fundemental to who we are (but perhaps I would stop just short of completely deterministic of who we are...but to a large degree yes...think about this for a bit...)

I don't know why Bruin - but yoru post (and soem of te others here of late on this thread and elsewhere) made me think of this song...(my bold)..anyway enjoy...they also have some other very fine lyrics (if any are interested..) An Englishman in New York (Creme/Godley) Demented New York athletes staggering round the block Deforned Chicanos pour in, Chicago's rolling stock Digital bathrooms drilling for furs Surgical stockings marked his and hers Guggenheim attitudes back to back With Jewish Baroque No way street No way street Happy to see you, have a nice day! Defecting Russian dancers dance into Hockney prints Exclusive to Bloomingdales, gift-wrapped in red From the land of blue rinse They boggle at menus in Olde English verse "Ode to burger" by Keats at his worst The hissing of omelettes the breaking of legs Don't shoot till you see the whites of their eggs The pink fillet mignon looks black on the negs Strange apparatus You've never seen Strange apparatus, even stranger theme Street alligators Big Anglophile Will navigate us through a change of style I came, I saw, what manner of beast is this New York, you talk a little bit left of centre A scream, a shout New York is throwing its weight about Walk tall, walk straight, spit the world right in the eye The stranger the wood the straighter the arrow Dismembered hopeful My-Lai veterans queuing for sleaze "Sorry no dogs, no fags, no shriners, and no amputees" Sexual athlete applies for audition Willing to make it in any position Just one of the extras with blood on their faces In snow-white and the seven basket cases I'm happy and dopey and dirty in places No way street No way street Lock up your daughters, Avon crawling! Devoted collectors of paraphernalia out walking the rock Battle and bitch for the ultimate kitch of a crucifix clock Two miniature romans, running on rails Appear every hour and bang in the nails I've got to have it, Christ, I gotta be the first on our block Disturbing facts about Nazi splinter groups seen on the news They're picketing synagogues and claiming that Hitler was King of the Jews Caught in the tunnel an ambulance howls A men's room attendant is flapping his jowls Ssshh, Howard Johnson is moving his bowels Strange apparatus You've never seen Strange apparatus, even stranger theme Street alligators Big Anglophile Will navigate us through a change of style Strange apparatus You've never seen Strange apparatus, even stranger theme Walk straight, walk tall, spit the world right in the eye The stranger the wood, the straighter the arrow No way street No way street

Ah here it is....this was from May 2000 BTW: I declare the Atheist Crusade Whereas adherents of monotheistic religions have blasphemed before the truth of the unknown cosmos and no valid proof of a human centered god is evidenced, their judgmental claims of knowledge of such a “creator” and “shepherd” of mankind constitute heresy and falsehood, Whereas, adherents of such belief deny any truth save that of their own making, and as such condemn and persecute all who believe otherwise, and thus have been and are clearly and proven responsible for most of the pain and bloodshed in the world (none of which, to the knowledge of the unbelievers, has ever been caused by us) - we therefore invoke a Crusade designed to oppose the monotheists and their heresies. Our motto(s) – “freedom from religious (self-inflicted) bondage for all humanity!” and “boy are you guys confused” and “lets put a stop to silly talk!” Our goal – to oppose imposition of monotheistic constraints on human thought and action and to promote greater understanding and tolerance in the world Our methods – severe waving of fingers and reprimands for overboard statements and behaviors (hey, we’re “humanists” we don’t believe in hurting folks or causing suffering – we leave that to the fanatical believers!) We just want to be left in peace. Let the crusade begin! Sign on now…

Yes exactly...much like my "Atheist Crusade" As you may or may not recall from several years ago (on another forum - shame..and likely long lost...) ah well...

Stormy this was my thinking exactly. However some just take a negative slant on everything - befiting their own personality...shame that - just because they are bitter and unhappy they assume that everyone else must be as well...

Yes Domino..well i did warn you....

No Gurgen - not funny at all...

No Nouse - you are very much mistaken..anyway...yeah I was right on about you in the feminsim thread..and yes - i fully undewrstand where youa re comming from...very much so...and my deductions have been born out IMO.... Nothing at all that you have posted has been at all new to me...been there...done that etc etc..really....hail Cluthlu! etc

I t was a really great game..n efor real football fans...defense..always the thing eh? Anywqay yeah tape it and wathc it later your should...worthwhile..even if "my team" lost....

here here to that!

Well A-H really now..of course I am sorry for your feelings on this..but well...I mean besides me saying I am sory..what can i do?

Yeah mouse...read all of those..years ago..and Sitchen especially is very intruiging...but as for the spiritual - science balance - I disagree - its qway tioleted the other way...most people are just without a clue...

Well Sip...could have (and should have) just as eaisily been the Panthers...were it not for that very suck out of bounds kick of!!!! I mean raly now - pats on the 40! ...anyway..yeah game went very much as i thought it would...except I did thik that the panthers (Davis) would be able to run better...i wqas thinking that the Pats D would get worn down...turned out it was the other way around....oh well..was a great game..would have liked to see carolina win it..and I really did think that they would (or were more likely to)... And game was ceetainly mush better then the commercials this year which mostly sucked..certainly notjhing truly oustanding...