Dan

i agree. maybe if there are laws prohibiting people in "the city" to purchase a gun unless they have a target shooting membership or a business that could be considered prone to attacks (jewelry, etc.), things would be a lot better than they are now, where even a dog can carry a gun lol...

lol Sip... heh.. I thought you were in L.A..? My bad... Hmmm.. well, if it's not a densely populated area, it's fine.. but in the city, like downtown Toronto, I don't see a need for it.. ) and would probably not have the money to buy another one... what do you think? am I being logical here?

heh.. it would be lotsa fun if it's not released -- because that would mean we're living in a fascist state controlled, ironically, by jews.. :D can't wait for an uprising!!! it's coming!! in theatres near you! people will sooner or later wake up.. I mean, omg, it's about art and freedom, give it a f*ing break.. hmm.. what do they suggest -- that we rewrite history to clear each and every jew of their wrongdoings????? no sir.. they better start behaving, cos i'm not about to advocate re-writing history. and did you folks hear about that israeli ambassador who ruined a work of art which depicted a palestinian suicide bomber (in the Swedish museum)? good god.. what is this all coming down to?!?! i heard there's a lot of pressure about the movie.. on the one hand, i want to see it so bad and support it too, on the other hand, i want to see people's reaction when it's banned...

You're right. Which is why I think that peace & freedom are not possible in Iraq unless there's another dictator, which would be beating the whole purpose. A lawless people can only be ruled by someone who is strictly adherent to order. Not going to work with them. It's about time USA realised this. My cousin's 8 year old kid could probably arrive to the same conclusion given the facts.. geez, what's wrong with the administration?

One more comment on your "fascist" comment -- it seems to me that the countries we live in are the ones that are fascist, not the website you mentioned.. FBI, anyone? Do you know how much they know about you and what you do each day, who you talk to, etc? Sounds like an American version of the Schutzstaffel to me... heh... perhaps you've been brainwashed by the ADL? Edit: BTW, I was just putting forth an article, that's all -- not about racial attitudes or anything.. If you notice, that article also talks about communism, and I'm a commie.. so whatever. If you have a problem with an article based on scholarly research, I say it's your problem, not mine. If you come up with a refutation on the claims that article makes, do share. I'd love to read it!!

it's one thing to have a hunting gun, it's another thing to have a handgun / pistol... Sip, are you telling me you own a gun? do you have a license for carrying a concealed weapon? :o dude..... never mind... are you telling me that in case someone comes to your house with the intention to rob you, you will have the time to go to the room where the box is located, unlock the box, load the gun, and still expect to be alive? i have my doubts about that one.. heh

If you had paid attention to everything that was on that page, you would've noticed that it's not written by Stormfront. Moreover, Stormfront is not a White supremacist website. It's a racialist (not racist) website. Additionally, if gay pride and black pride are acceptable and welcome in society, I don't see why White pride isn't, and I don't see why White pride is automatically associated with Nazism... Another question -- why do you then consider everything that comes from the Anti-Racist Action and any other politically correct website to be true, the formers being white-hating hypocrites (in many cases self-hating, since some of them are white). Why have you been brainwashed about Martin Luther King, considering that those who brainwashed you are now what can be called "gangs of America" (the same people who go around killing, sexually assaulting women, etc.).... And does it help you if I gave you another link for the same article, since you obviously consider stormfront too supremacist for your taste (because it's concerned with preserving white heritage)? Here's more on Martin Luther's plagiarism: http://chem-gharbison.unl.edu/mlk/plagiarism.html Archibald Carey's speech, 1952? Anyone? Good job, Mr. King... you're truly deserving of a day commemorating you.. or perhaps your plagiarism.. hahhaha.. http://www.mugu.com/cgi-bin/Upstream/Issues/race/mlk.html Perhaps it could help reading up on what I posted before making prejudiced comments on where the article has been posted.. Edit: You might want to edit out that link to stormfront, as I know the mods will have a problem with it.

lol now now.. why would i like that?

lol.. so spiders date too?!?! :huh: edit: what's next - gay spiders? lol

Share your thoughts on this one, folks: http://www.martinlutherking.org/thebeast.html I, for one, think that this document is a very factual one. In fact, even Martin Luther King sympathisers and followers admit to it but on the bases that "the good that he did far outweighs these truths" they say that they don't want to talk about it. Anyhow, what do you think about him? And why do you think "a liberal judge has sealed the FBI files on King until the year 2027" ?

Sip, a while back, I found a website for which I had not been specifically looking... that is, I didn't type in that website's name in order to find its address.. that's not why I use search engines... it's about typing a keyword and getting all the relevant results listed.. for example, do you agree that a website that advocates White pride (without advocating violence against non-Whites) is perfectly fine to be listed? I mean, why is it OK to list websites about gay pride, black pride, etc., and not White pride? are there double standards? i see, because White pride == Nazism? Steve, neo-fascist -- yes.. that's what censorship is all about. Funny how they want to censor the people they call Nazis and Fascists (White pride website owners, etc.) but they're acting like fascists themselves... hypocritical, eh? I personally don't think those websites are crap.. one of them actually has close to 25,000 members...... Instead, what they might want to do to filter out crap is not allow illegal drug sales ads... but I suppose when it's about money, it's about money.. heh... but funny thing is, if you do a search with the keywords they've supposedly banned, in the search results, you get a link to the Yahoo directory which also links to that website lol..!!!! haha... ahh well..

ummm i never said that.. whatever made you think that i suggested that? it's the entire education/media/immigration system that's wrong.. THAT's what needs to be changed, not the nature of procreation or anything of the sort. I'm all for pro-creation.. heh.. if you want kids, go for it!! although I prefer adoption... i mean we're already overpopulated, so why not take one that's already born... (right, you're gonna say, yeah, i want MY OWN kid, it's different, and besides, others can do it, i'm not gonna do that.. i want to have my OWN kids.. but if everyone thought like that, we're back to square 1.. or 0, or maybe -1)....

Depends on what you mean by "the people of Iraq".. if by that you mean the average illiterate muslim man/woman/teenager who would readily strap a bomb on himself/herself and blow up an entire busload of people simply because it happened that there was a Christian (them, the enemy, the enemy!! run!! ahhhhh... seeing non-Muslims as alligators, i guess.. heh), then my only suggestion is that all non-Muslims leave the country and just put an end to their attempts to educate those people. those people are beyond any help now. they WANT to live like that. they want to stink and they want to live in tents or otherwise unsafe buildings, etc. they don't want technology except to eliminate non-Muslims or to go on crusades to spread their religion. they are intolerant of tolerance as well as of intolerance. they are fanatics. there's one way to deal with fanatics -- let them BE!!! eventually they will die in their own filth or otherwise continue living like that without advancing or going back... eating, peeing, sleeping, praising allah, and breeding, eating, peeing, sleeping, etc. you get the idea... when will America learn??? it's time for them to find another country to free!! leave the muslims alone!!!! but instead they send more Americans to die for those filthy illiterate people who don't have an ounce of gratitude for their so-called liberators!!! but see, it's about oil, and well, they deserve one another is all i'm gonna say about that. but the sad thing is that it's not bush's arms being cut off due to those bombs, etc. it's the soldiers'!!! get the Christians out of there!!! those people DO NOT WANT NON-MUSLIMS IN THEIR COUNTRY!!! is it that hard to grasp that concept??? Maybe Saddam was right!! maybe he did what he did because he knew the nature of his own people/religion!!! of course, that doesn't make him right, but i don't see any other way of dealing with them... either let them fight it out amonsgt themselves (shiites vs. whatever religious group within islam, etc.) total anarchy, survival of the fittest.. bring the entire country on its feet by its own people, simultaneously keeping a good public image (USA), and then enter the country if need be..... in the meantime, DO NOT GIVE THEM ANY AID, OR ANY TECHNOLOGY. same for ALL middle eastern countries. sheesh, hizbolla has bases in Lebanon (a Christian country!!) and they launch katshioshkas every week (very recently too!!) at israelis so that they would bomb lebanon.. the economic situation in lebanon is terrible.. muslims have no "class".. they get goods and sell them for half the market price in order to cut the Christian market. result? Christians leave the country. consequence? Lebanon being taken over by muslims... where IS USA when that is happening???!?!?!?!???! after OIL.... that's what i mean by "they deserve one another." As for the Christians/Armenians in Iraq, they should know better than staying there... at least now that the "allies" are in, they can possibly flee the country and go to either North America or Lebanon or possibly Europe.... it's done with. done. there is no hope for those Christians in Iraq. a new wave of militant islam is spreading.. run for your life. leave that goddamn desert. nothing for you there except wearing their black hijabs like their muslim women!!! Armenians particularly should know better than to stay in a muslim country in such situations.... especially countries like Iran and Iraq (Syria and Lebanon are relatively safe from that militant wave for the time being).... THAT is my suggestion. PACK YOUR BAGS AND LEAVE. ASAP! might not be as easy as it sounds, but i'm sure there's a way out, especially now that saddam is gone...

you're right.. it wasn't specifically the republicans, although they facilitated it.. it's specifically an entire generation of stupid/ignorant voters who have turned America and American politics into what it is today.

anileve, yes, exactly those little whiners and brats who go around shooting at people as soon as they're old enough to be able to spell g-u-n... i think in every discussion, one needs to discuss the underlying problems instead of the consequences..... so i don't think it's off-topic at all. in fact, it's very relevant.

sheeesh, let everyone speak their mind.. why do you need laws to ban material that questions the truth behind something? if you know it's happened, there's nothing to be afraid of, no??? as long as it's not encouraging violence towards Armenians or any other group, i don't see why they should be censored in any way... i mean yeah, i'm all for the Armenian genocide recognition, but ........ that's definitely not the way to go!!!!

i'll tell you what, Stormig, go to google.fr and do a search with the keyword "tete de turc" and tell me what you come up with.

Stormig, France can only censor french-based websites on the Armenian genocide. we're talking about the international nature of the search results on google and what google includes in its results. For example, see the last entry on this page: http://www.google.fr/search?q=armenian+gen...=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 that's from google.fr ... some of the documents on that page are: "Armenian Forgeries and Falsifications" <<< sounds denialist to me.. so why just remove the jewish holocaust denialist websites? same laws, different nationalities/races => different application of the law. "A Myth of Terror" "Perpetuating the Genocide Myth" "The Massacre of Khojaly: Armenia's Crime Against Humanity"

tragic.. but we must keep in mind that that's what happens when a country that has no right to meddle in a country's business launches a military attack.. it all comes in a package. that's the way it's been, that's the way it'll always be. A second Vietnam... and has USA learned?!?!? Shame on Armenians for supporting the Republicans, and double shame on them if they're gonna support them again during the coming elections. Remember, you may be as innocent as an angel, but there's blood on your hands. And on Bush's hands. Armenian blood. Think about it.

Anonymouse, i'm sorry to hear that your dad was shot.. But think about it, i am talking about outlawing ALL guns, including the ones the rioters had. if they didn't have guns, neither those shopowners would've needed any to ward them off, nor would your dad have been shot... your father was shot because the rioters owned the guns, not because he didn't have a gun.. i guess you're viewing the cup half empy instead of half-full... but think about it, let's all have an arms race and get every single person in the neighbourhood armed, and then create anarchy, just like uhhh "gatil meh meghreh" .. sheesh, have we not learned from that example?!?!

mmmhmmm vava... what does the fact that i live in north york have anything to do with my views about the immigration laws? and for your information (i don't know about the situation where you live), but here in Toronto, if i see a white/british/canadian person, it makes my day (not in the sense that it makes me happy or anything -- just that i don't see any white people here in toronto at all... only chinese, indians, mexicans, filippinos, blacks, and jews [yes, i can tell they're jews even if they don't have that thingie on their head...] in the eyes of most of the population? who IS that "most population"? the immigrants, no? (refer to above paragraph) mmhmm, actually no... i would not be considered an immigrant, theoretically speaking. or a contributor to the problem for that matter.. why? because i am British, and may I remind you who "built" this country? i don't remember arabs dying for Canada or for the British empire for that matter... heh... yeah, my dad died for the Lebanese, but do they consider him one of their own because he did? i don't think so.. and i am not anti-immigration or anti-all-immigrants. just those who are not qualified to be here but are given permanent residence for some odd reason.... i don't think i am not qualified for immigration.. English is my mother tongue, i've lived here for quite a while now, and i have an education, unlike the illiterate chinese who are brought here by the thousands (not saying there aren't any educated chinese out there)........ and sheesh, i heard the situation in England with the pakis is terrible.... they go there and beat up the Brits.. what the hell....... ? that's not my idea of qualified immigrants.. but i'm not too sure if it is your idea.... sounds like it though... anyhow, i'll try not to make assumptions about people's views... this is not just a random, irrelevant rant. it's VERY much related to the issue of kids and violence in our cities. and speaking about it in negative terms as i'm doing now does not mean i am racist, and if that's what it means to you folks (or others out there), then so be it... in an age where political correctness censors truth ahhh... what do we expect... it's done with now.. at this rate, the world is going to be controlled by illiterate muslims (again, there are literate muslims, i know) who want the world to be under their control and act like them (not taking shower, living in tents, etc............), or porn-spreading obsessed zionists (talk about corrupting an entire generation... did you know that when israelis took over palestinian TV stations, they aired porn during the regular cartoon times when children were watching?)... so i think i will change my view on "is it fair to bring kids into this world?" and say no... i don't think it's fair.. unless you're planning for a massive anti-anti-racialist movement, i wouldn't recommend that you procreate... but if they do come as a surprise, i guess it's their bad luck and they have to live through this UTTER stupidity like we are doing now... 1965 chain immigration.. hail it... ahhh and then they ask me why i think Johnson was the worst president in the history of the jewnited states... i meant united states.. let the censorship begin..

the general public complained? how does a general public complain? hmm... i don't see a procedure for filing a "general public" complaint... and yes, it's google.de and google.fr, but still? i am sure google.fr has some anti-armenian websites.... of course, google's free to do whatever the hell they want, but it doesn't mean that there were good reasons for doing it. google is a search engine that has based its fame on its search results, no? and now i think it's time that people spread the word about how it's deleting certain websites that it doesn't like..... stormfront, etc. are HUGE websites.... i mean, it's not a matter of 475,000 search results, it's a matter of finding the thing one is looking for.... if google is a search engine that caters to specific groups with specific views and political correctness, then it should say so....

i am talking about ideology -- principle.. would you use a search engine that has removed websites that are pro-White or whatever the hell (racialist, not racist, btw -- and don't advocate violence against any group, so they're not illegal) and has not removed any anti-Armenian websites designed by turks, some of which advocate killing Armenians or wishing that all Armenians were dead, etc. ? i for one wouldn't. not to mention -- if we're talking about illegal things, how about those ads about pills, etc. that are sold illegally?! google doesn't seem credible AT ALL!!

http://www.gavinsblog.com/2003/03/06.html#a117 alltheweb.com looks good. i'm not talking about having a say in what they do. i am talking about MY decision to use it or not, and for that matter, Armenian people's decision to use it or not. try e-mailing them and asking them to remove anti-Armenian websites from their database... and let me know if they get back to you about it. if they do get back to you, and with a positive reply, i will reconsider using their engine. otherwise i won't, and i suggest that people start using other search engines, they're as good (if not better than) as google. http://www.google-watch.org/

gevo, talking about specific websites -- google.de and google.fr, per se. so by that token, google.com (for USA) would have to remove all websites for each and every group that doesn't like a specific website directed at their racial group?!?!