Yervant1 Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 Family in Los Angeles receives threatening note for hanging Armenian flag11:22, 15 Apr 2016Siranush GhazanchyanA threatening note was left for a family in Tujunga because they hungan Armenian flag from their home, according to detectives with the LosAngeles Police Department, ABC 7 reports.Hasmik Chatalyan contacted police at about 12:30 p.m. on Thursdayafter the threatening note was discovered in her family’s mailbox.The married mother of two said she hung the flag on her house in the10000 block of Pinyon Avenue in honor of her fallen heroes in Armenia.At one point, the note reads, “You will be hurt.”“Being threatened in my own home, it was shocking,” Chatalyan said.Detectives took the note into evidence and said they would test it forfingerprints.Officials said the act was being investigating as a “hate incident”and that hate crime charges could potentially be brought in thefuture.“My kids are home and I don’t know who is going to come up to my houseand try to put the flags down or break-in and hurt me, because in theletter it says, ‘You’re going to get hurt,'” Chatalyan said.Neighbors on the same block said their car was egged last year afterthey put an Armenian flag on their vehicle.“Violated, angry and frustrated,” Tujunga resident Adelaida Yian said.“Why do people have so much hate in their hearts?”In response to the suspect’s threats, the Chatalyan family kept theArmenian flag up and hung a second flag as well.They also called on other Armenian families to place flags on their homes.“I grew up here, but I’m also from Armenia and I’m proud of my countryand I will not let anybody put that down,” Chatalyan said. “I will notlet anybody tell me how to love my country.”https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__abc7.com_news_lapd-2Dinvestigates-2Dthreatening-2Dnote-2Dover-2Darmenian-2Dflag-2Das-2Dhate-2Dincident_1292473_&d=CwIFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=LVw5zH6C4LHpVQcGEdVcrQ&m=nbGfZ7hlUiRzyZ7L7iZy5yZm8iygTipCVTgWxdXReSw&s=4kqLj1oO9Ln6kcIPX3XHkL9K0jlbKGwRrHnxIX-9Of0&e=https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.armradio.am_en_2016_04_15_family-2Din-2Dlos-2Dangeles-2Dreceives-2Dthreatening-2Dnote-2Dfor-2Dhanging-2Darmenian-2Dflag_&d=CwIFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=LVw5zH6C4LHpVQcGEdVcrQ&m=nbGfZ7hlUiRzyZ7L7iZy5yZm8iygTipCVTgWxdXReSw&s=DFny_hj8doowkMQL1RqUketzPM5SSkv6HTTORGY6eF4&e= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 Nazik Avdalyan: Our soldiers on the border gave me the strengthSPORT 14:33 15/04/2016 ARMENIAEuropean champion, Nazik Avdalyan spoke about her victory withexcitement and pride, reports the press service of National OlympicCommittee of Armenia.Avdalyan dedicated her victory to Armenian soldiers on the border.“I became a European champion 8 years ago. I’ve left the sport afterthe car accident. I started training in 2015. I wasn’t thinking aboutbecoming a European champion. I haven’t felt this way about winningany competition, perhaps I was a child at that time and wasn’t fullyenjoying the victory. Many people doubted I would make a major result.Frankly speaking, our soldiers on the border gave me the strength.They were fighting a life-or-death battle without fear. Why would I beafraid? Those thoughts were constantly on my mind: Azerbaijanisoldiers have more weapon yet we are winning. There are all thenecessary conditions for athletes. Why wouldn’t we win? I can onlythank Armenian soldiers on the border,” said Avdalyan in herinterview.Concerning her plans for the future, Avdalyan didn’t want to run aheadof time, yet she also didn’t deny having plans about the Olympics.https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.panorama.am_en_news_2016_04_15_Nazik-2DAvdalyan_1563168&d=CwIFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=LVw5zH6C4LHpVQcGEdVcrQ&m=CLwtOCmz1nJSGpRM8EIKTujxGfgu9QEOF5clkjSrjrk&s=r9FsvYWPvN2kQtwj1LcTFOZl0-TJoMK0EFG16XAWJOU&e= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 Garry Kasparov: Heydar Aliyev instructed Ilham to threaten with war,but not to warby David StepanyanFriday, April 15, 14:13"I think Heydar Aliyev instructed Ilham to threaten with war, but notto war. And he will not war," the Russian politician, 13th World ChessChampion Garry Kasparov told Turan."Status-quo is in favor of both Baku and Yerevan, as in both countrieswar is used for the same purposes. The authorities in Armenia came topower thanks to war and they want to retain their power. Azerbaijaniand Armenia leadership now use the conflict to improve their positionsand accumulate more wealth. A democratic Azerbaijan would be closer tothe solution than it is now. The settlement will become possible onlywhen the current political elites leave and people with democraticviews come to power," Kasparov said.In his words, if war is launched in Nagorno-Karabakh, it will not beof local nature. The politician does not believe that liberation ofthe lands may lead even to provision of autonomy to the KarabakhArmenians."Any new bloodshed will protract the settlement. Therefore, I amagainst war," he said.https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.arminfo.am_index.cfm-3Fobjectid-3DAFA81BF0-2D02F2-2D11E6-2DB2810EB7C0D21663&d=CwIBaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=LVw5zH6C4LHpVQcGEdVcrQ&m=Ainv2j1Q4vwoNbWYpETVhxOc01hztIkbWy97tX6-EYY&s=UUekMtVxxPESgx0jVmsqt8aDPIK_Ttonnzb6gq_E6t0&e= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 Is Russia Really Armenia’s Ally?13:44, April 15, 2016By David BoyajianAzerbaijan’s recent military attacks on Artsakh/Karabagh and Armeniacall into serious question the Armenian-Russian defense pact andrelationship.Russia has been selling Azerbaijan billions in advanced weapons thatAzerbaijan is using against Armenians.Russia has repeatedly failed to rebuke Azerbaijan for breaking theceasefire that it agreed to two decades ago.Russia has done nothing substantive to stop Azerbaijan’s frequentshelling of towns within Armenia itself.In 2013, Col. Andrey Ruzinsky, commander of Russia′s 102nd militarybase in Armenia, said that Russia “may” not permit Azerbaijan “torestore jurisdiction over Nagorno-Karabakh by force.” Russia has yetto take any such actions.Indeed, Russia may not care whether Azerbaijan overruns Artsakh asthat, by itself, would not create a Turkish-Azeri corridor acrossArmenia that would threaten Russia’s position in the Caucasus.What would Russia do if Azeri soldiers advanced into Armenia and swamin Lake Sevan? We don’t know.More Armenian reaction neededTo their credit, Armenia’s top leaders and some MPs have expressedtheir dismay to Russia. As of this writing, however, Armenian citizensand diasporan organizations have been virtually silent about Russianduplicity. Twelve days after the initial Azeri assaults, there hasbeen but one demonstration at the Russian Embassy in Yerevan. This isincomprehensible. Though Armenians do care deeply, the Kremlin may beconcluding the exact opposite.Armenians often express appreciation for and solidarity with Russia.Similar sentiments, however, are seldom returned by Russians. Thepopular, flashy Russian TV network, RT.com, staffed by Western andRussian journalists, rarely reports anything—especially anythingpositive--about Armenians. These should be warning signs to Armenians.Some Russians and Armenians argue that their defense treaty is onlywith Armenia, not Artsakh. Yet Russia has not countered Azeri attackseven on Armenia itself. Does the defense pact exempt Russia fromacting against Azeri attacks? We don’t know. And the belief iswidespread that Russia is secretly making deals with Azerbaijan atArmenians’ expense.True, Armenia must be extremely careful because it is highly dependentupon Russian natural gas, the Russian-controlled Metsamor nuclearpower plant, advanced weapons, Russian-manned bases near theArmenian-Turkish border, and more. Yet without Armenia, Russia wouldultimately be surrounded, and perhaps even destroyed, by NATO.Armenia goes NATO, Russia goes underGeorgia and Azerbaijan are hostile to Russia, have close relationswith the US and Europe, and wish to join NATO. Azerbaijan and NATOmember Turkey already call themselves “one nation, two states.”Suppose Armenia, voluntarily or otherwise, left the Russian orbit.Georgia, Azerbaijan, and Armenia would soon be sucked into the NATOalliance. Separating the Muslim north Caucasus from the RussianFederation would become a top NATO priority.NATO would create a Baku-based navy in the gas and oil-rich CaspianSea. Reaching across the Caspian, NATO would link up with Kazakhstan,Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, and Kyrgyzstan. This is Pan-Turkism under aNATO fig-leaf.Virtually surrounded by NATO and China, Russia would be ripe fordestruction. The Kremlin may not totally understand this.Armenians know that Soviet Russia gifted Armenian territories toTurkey and Azerbaijan in the 1920s. As Armenia once again perceivesRussia as unreliable, it will naturally look elsewhere. The West has,however, historically always broken its promises to Armenians andultimately favored Turkey. So while Armenia’s someday joining NATOmight be dangerous and improbable, it’s not impossible. Russia cantwist Armenia’s arm and support its adversaries only up to a point.Russian naïvetéRussian strategy is to ingratiate itself with Azerbaijan and pull itback into the Russian orbit. Throughout the past decade, Russia hastried the same misguided strategy with Turkey.Predictably, the Russian–Turkish love affair crashed and burned lastyear when Turkey shot down a Russian jet over Syria. This, declaredPresident Putin, was the “betrayal of a friend.” Putin’s belief thatPresident Erdogan and Turkey were truly his “friends” isbreathtakingly naïve. It tells us that the Kremlin is delusional aboutTurkey and, by extension, its Azeri kin.The Putin-Lavrov-Aliyev ménage à trois will culminate in a similardisaster for Russia, but not before Armenia is damaged, perhapsfatally.Some Kremlin circles have been influenced by Aleksandr Dugin’s EurasiaMovement which espouses a grand union of Slavs/Russians and Turks.No one, including me, is suggesting that Armenia separate itself fromRussia at this time. It is impractical and unwise. But the currentrelationship lacks symmetry. The people of Armenia, Artsakh, and theDiaspora must not remain silent while Russia implicitly supports Azeriaggression.Rebalancing Armenia-Russian relationsRebalancing Armenian-Russian relations must begin with large andcontinuing protests against Russian betrayals, similar to thepro-Artsakh demonstrations of the late 1980s. Moscow will respectthis. Moscow does not respect people who, while being kicked in theteeth by a “friend,” pretend that they’re being kissed on the lips.Yerevan must take bigger steps towards economic and politicalindependence from Moscow and a more evolved relationship with theWest. The Armenian Diaspora could help Armenia and Artsakh immenselymore if only Armenia’s leaders, including its lethargic “ambassadors,”saw diasporans as kindred spirits rather than as interlopers.The West, too, must confess its own horrendous transgressions againstArmenians. The leaders and citizens of Armenia and Artsakh must beblunt about the West’s past and present betrayals and sickeningTurkophilism. Why no Armenian protests in front of Western embassies?Why the hesitation to speak the plain truth? Yet what is the Westoffering Armenia? Very little.A more balanced path involves risks for Yerevan, but so doessubservience to Moscow as recent events have shown.The author is an Armenian American freelance journalist. Many of hisarticles are archived at www.armeniapedia.org/wiki/David_B._Boyajian.https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__hetq.am_eng_news_67324_is-2Drussia-2Dreally-2Darmenias-2Dally.html&d=CwIFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=LVw5zH6C4LHpVQcGEdVcrQ&m=G6bbUpliKmiAALAZui8RjrDX5_dlFwkL0dW6BqOLumw&s=SIsrcwznf_GhYDLU3p8pQo3ywvYHRKIvSUeiZ3-EXTU&e= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 Basque Parliament condemns Azeri aggression against Nagorno Karabakh14:12, 15 Apr 2016Siranush GhazanchyanThe Basque Parliament has adopted a statement, condemning the recentAzerbaijani attempts to solve the Karabakh conflict in a military way.The statement was adopted unilaterally by all political forcesrepresented in the Parliament.The statement notes that on 2 April 2016, Azerbaijan unilaterallylaunched an unprecedented attack along the entire line of contact withNagorno Karabakh. This attack has caused dozens of deaths, includingfour civilians, one of them a child.The Basque Parliament shows its deep concern at the breakdown of theceasefire in force since 1994 in Nagorno-Karabakh and expresses sorrowfor the victims that the attack has caused.The Parliament welcomes the resumption of truce the two sidesannounced on April 5 and hopes it will be respected.The lawmakers demand to implement an international mechanism forinvestigation of border incidents proposed by the Minsk GroupCo-Chairs.They reject the use of force to resolve the conflict and call on theparties to take practical steps to immediately cease military actionsand withdraw the troops to the positions held prior to April 1, 2016.The Basque Parliament also supports the need to return to thenegotiation process mediated by the Minsk Group of the OSCE whereNagorno Karabakh must have a place, as already agreed this Parliament.https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.armradio.am_en_2016_04_15_basque-2Dparliament-2Dcondemns-2Dazeri-2Daggression-2Dagainst-2Dnagorno-2Dkarabakh_&d=CwIBaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=LVw5zH6C4LHpVQcGEdVcrQ&m=3ov2IQ1c-r-GRx-1UzroZN6jIMhbvRy2Lf6CSd-k78Y&s=mdq4_eAQ27CEExwBdAH7RBAXnwbGNlrKnhBpbJ9wa_o&e= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 This was a real war and everything was competently planned – sayswounded capitain (video)18:05 | April 15,2016 | PoliticsThis was a real war, it was not another sabotage-reconnaissanceinfiltration attempt by Azerbaijan, says Capitan Azat Stepanyan whocontinues to receive treatment at the Central Clinical MilitaryHospital in Yerevan when he was taken ten days ago, the 26-year-oldwas wounded in April 2 during the hostilities on theKarabakh-Azerbaijani border.Everything was competently planned and calculated. They [Azeris]attempted to infiltrate from all sections of the border. They did notexpect that Armenian soldiers aged between 18 and 20 might repulsetheir attacks,” Azat Stepanyan says.He keeps in touch with his friends on the frontline. Azat says hewould join his friends if he were in good health. “Azeris might havebetter equipment and weapons than we have but they have neither theknowledge nor the courage to use them. they lack the courage andbelief that we Armenians have,” he said.Details in the videohttps://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__youtu.be_f2vkA0-2DCk0A&d=CwIFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=LVw5zH6C4LHpVQcGEdVcrQ&m=B50cXVM0lHAo61DBYgTvrIJjbw9sQzfoUTyNlPJmBug&s=EjajQ6G6C2BXo2oktrzEiYH89XDzgRfSJqeWzbCHY44&e=https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__en.a1plus.am_1233673.html&d=CwIFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=LVw5zH6C4LHpVQcGEdVcrQ&m=B50cXVM0lHAo61DBYgTvrIJjbw9sQzfoUTyNlPJmBug&s=CkNe1Zu_saKlvSlqEK_w_A2MOE-wrZnvnBydmpZu4os&e= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 Italian TV channel covers Azerbaijani soldiers’ cruelties againstcivilians of village TalishPOLITICS 19:09 15/04/2016 NKRItalian TV channel Sky TG24 prepared a reportage about the crueltiesand murders of civilians in the village Talish of the Nagorno KarabakhRepublic (NKR) by the Azerbaijani armed forces .The report starts with an interview with LevonHakobjanyan, a soldierof the Defense Army of the Nagorno Karabakh Republic, who was at thehospital. He told the Italian journalist about the attack of theAzerbaijanis and the murders of the civilians.According to the Italian journalist, LevonHakobjanyan serves in theregion Talish, and Nagorno Karabakh is Armenia’s Christian “enclave,”which has been fighting against Azerbaijan for its independence for aquarter-century.Abelyan, a Talish resident, told the journalist how the Azerbaijanisoldiers had begun to fire the village when the inhabitants were stillasleep. He said the residents first evacuated children and women.“Azerbaijani missiles leveled everything to the ground,” Abelyan said.He showed the reporter his house, which was entirely destroyed as aresult of the firing. He told him how difficult it had been for him tosave the children when several missiles fell on the roof of the house.The journalist drew the audience’s attention to the traces of blood ofthe residents wounded as a result of firing by the Azerbaijani armedforces.Another Talish resident, Vanik, also showed his destroyed house andtold the journalist that he did know what his family would do. Vaniksaid the Azerbaijani reconnaissance officers had broken into his houseafter that and turned everything upside down.Then the crew of the Italian TV channel visited the house of theelderly couple Valeri and RazmellaKhalapyans, who were shot by theAzerbaijani soldiers. The journalist notes that the photos demonstratethe Azerbaijani soldiers’ cruelty.In his turn, photojournalist Hakob Poghosyan said that after he hadphotographed Khalapyans’ yard, he entered into the house to find thecouple already dead with their ears cut off.It is also noted in the reportage that the authorities of the NagornoKarabakh Republic have due evidence that the bodies of the Armeniansoldiers have been defaced. Everything is documented and is beinginvestigated in a criminal case.The journalist also notes that volunteers and Karabakh War veteransarrive in the NKR to be enlisted in the Defense Army and protect theindependence of their homeland.“If the Turks and Azerbaijanis kill us, we are ready for anything,”one of the volunteers stated.https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__video.sky.it_news_mondo_nagorno-5Fkarabakh-5Fa-5Ftallish-5Fatrocit-5Fe-5Fstrage-5Fdi-5Fcivili_v279625.vid&d=CwIFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=LVw5zH6C4LHpVQcGEdVcrQ&m=P3yG4QOJYDIMtz80m3d7gvWaryJAUkIwjzQ0mFio3-g&s=LLzwQ0YcK3mvNe-LE1Sp7D2Vh3FiJMuREvUtjN64i64&e=https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.panorama.am_en_news_2016_04_15_Italian-2DTV-2Dchannel-2DTalish_1563578&d=CwIFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=LVw5zH6C4LHpVQcGEdVcrQ&m=P3yG4QOJYDIMtz80m3d7gvWaryJAUkIwjzQ0mFio3-g&s=Hr2l20RQGdz4ouKgZUhmruaD_auQ-wScyiiFxrl8-bY&e= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted April 16, 2016 Report Share Posted April 16, 2016 Anti-Armenian Stockholm demonstration in spotlight of Swedish media: Swedish minister’s ties with Grey Wolves exposedhttp://www.groong.com/news/attachments/msg570259/pngK4e_Fkybsg.pngPolitics 19:17 15/04/2016 WorldMehmet Kaplan, Sweden's Minister of Housing and Urban Development, and Barbaros Leylani, who was earlier calling to kill the Armenians in the center of Stockholm, are linked to Turkish extremist and neo-fascist organization Grey Wolves, Swedish website Aftonbladet reports According to the information, a photo taken last July was found on the website of the Turkish National Association in Sweden. The photo clearly shows Turkish-born Mehmet Kaplan and Barbaros Leylani together with Ilhan Senturk, the leader of the Turkish extremist neo-fascist organization Grey Wolves in Sweden, having dinner in honor of the end of the Muslim holiday Ramadan.It is reminded that last week, an anti-Armenian demonstration was organized by local Turkish and Azerbaijani communities in the center of Stocholm, during which the vice chairman of the Coordination Center of Turkish Associations in Sweden, Barbaros Leylani, made a speech in Turkish coming up with anti-Armenian and nationalistic statements.“It is time for uniting the Turkish nation. The Turks will wake up putting an end to the Armenian dogs. Death to the Armenian dogs! Death! Death!” Leylani shouted.According to Aftonbladet, Leylani was dismissed from his position for his calls to violence and agitation of xenophobia. A criminal case has been filed against him in Sweden.Meanwhile, another Swedish website Expressen writes that minister Kaplan very soon became a target for heavy criticism because of his surroundings. For example, Iranian-born Swedish MP Hanif Bali stated that it is inadmissible for a minister to have such contacts. “He obviously is in good terms with that Turkish national association, which invites fascists to its parties. Apparently, Kaplan has decided to establish good relations with that group,” Hanif Bali said.Meanwhile, Kaplan began to deny his ties with the extremists insisting that he "had only been a guest” in that event.At the same time, Breit Bart writes that this is not the first time Kaplan has had to fend off accusations of radicalism. In 2014, Nalin Pekgul, a Swedish politician of Turkish origin, accused Mr. Kaplan of being an “Islamist” with a “hidden agenda.” Writing a scathing editorial in a Swedish newspaper, the politician said that with Kaplan’s appointment to the ministry the government had “sent a clear signal that the Islamists now have the support of the Swedish establishment.”It is emphasized that the Grey Wolves themselves are under observation by a number of European security services, and by some reckonings are among the largest radical groups on the continent. According to some estimates, the group has more than 10,000 active members on the continent, and is seeking to establish a greater Turkish empire, stretching from Eastern Europe into Asia. Grey Wolves spread their pan-Turkic ideology and fanatic Islamism outside Turkey. They proclaimed Kurds, Armenians, Greeks, Jews, gays and Christians their enemies. It is also reminded that last week, Turkish nationalists marched in the streets of German Duisburg shouting “With Allah’s help, we shall conquer you.” As a result, clashes with the local Kurds occured.http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/article22629083.abhttps://youtu.be/fdLLxD4h0nEhttp://www.panorama.am/en/news/2016/04/15/Anti-Armenian-Stockholm-demonstration/1563534 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted April 16, 2016 Report Share Posted April 16, 2016 US Official NewsApril 14, 2016 ThursdayWashington: Langevin Statement on Azerbaijan's Assault Against Nagorono-KarabakhWashington: Office of Congressman Jim Langevin has issued thefollowing news release:Congressman Jim Langevin (D-RI), a senior member of the House ArmedServices Committee, issued the following statement regarding therecent military offensive launched against the people ofNagorno-Karabakh by Azerbaijan:“I am deeply troubled by the ongoing conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh,which threatens not only the security of the Armenian people, but thesecurity of the region as a whole. This blatant violation of theceasefire agreement, which resulted in both military and civiliandeaths, is not only dangerous; it is reckless. Azerbaijan’saggressions and rhetoric must be de-escalated immediately so that bothparties can come together to honor the ceasefire agreement and worktowards the goal of peace in Nagorno-Karabakh.” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 LIVE: Defense Ministry presents documents of downed Azerbaijani helicopter’s crew http://www.groong.com/news/attachments/msg570386/pngn2W5MoWQbz.png13:22, 16 April, 2016YEREVAN, APRIL 16, ARMENPRESS. The Defense Ministry is releasing the documents of the downed Azerbaijani combat helicopter’s crew. As “Armenpress” reports, the documents prove that the helicopter was transported from Baku a few days earlier and had precise targets. This is the final evidence proving that the large scale Azerbaijani attacks were planned in advance.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mz1D8DUaRGwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELCDSn_unkohttp://armenpress.am/eng/news/843787/live-defense-ministry-presents-documents-of-downed-azerbaijani-helicopter%E2%80%99s-crew.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 Armenia needs retaliatory weapon to suppress adversary – retired general15:33 • 16.04.16Armenia needs to acquire a powerful weapon as a strong retaliatorytool to suppress Azerbaijan, a retired general of the USSR and theRepublic of Armenia said, commenting on the recentArmenian-Azerbaijani armed clashes in Nagorno-Karabakh.“Our army must be equipped and supplied with all weapons of conflict,and be governed on the highest level,” Norat Ter-Grigoryants told ourcorrespondent in a recent interview.“What I mean is both coordination and reciprocal action, andintelligence, as we are now in a blockade - an aggressive andgenocidal blockade - imposed by the armed forces of Turkey, a NATOmember state, and Azerbaijan, the second Turkish state, as well asGeorgia. And because Armenia, as a state, pursues defensive ratherthan offensive policies, it needs more defensive weapons. And why not,also nuclear weapons should anyone ever offer us that. That should bea weapon of restraint and retaliation. To make it more clear, Russiahas such a weapon, so it is not safeguarded against attacks. That’swhat is termed as restraint and retaliation weapon,” he explained.Asked whether he finds nuclear arms really necessary for Armenia,General Ter-Grigoryants said his message would sound clearer toofficers and commanders in the military. “[Armenia needs] any weaponwhich is for retaliation. The servicemen who will read these wordsknow what it is. That’s not just nuclear arms. The list can expandfurther and further. So Armenia must receive that weapon. Or it canpurchase it by collecting all the available resources. It isn’tpossible otherwise, as this situation is going to last endlessly,” hesaid, calling for further efforts also towards promoting and fosteringpeace, stability and well-being by creating more jobs in the countryto prevent emigration.https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.tert.am_en_news_2016_04_16_grigoryants_1991610&d=CwIFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=LVw5zH6C4LHpVQcGEdVcrQ&m=LDHb3o4SQxmoFB5ynZ_Mnu8BPSDZGThcmvW_No4oeEA&s=SMrtVFixskaZag17T18MldjJijybCwCpCSDG3EBLYNM&e= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 Sweden PM: It is completely unacceptable to incite against other groups18:28, 16.04.2016Swedish Prime Minister Stefan Löfven reacted to the anti-Armenianstatements expressed at the demonstration of the Turkish andAzerbaijani diaspora in Sergels Square of capital city Stockholm.“In Sweden, it is completely unacceptable to incite against othergroups, be it religious, ethnic or political,” mentioned Löfven in hisstatement. “Here, all political activities should be conducteddemocratically and with respect to the values of equality and rights.These principles are not negotiable.”Alice Bah Kuhnke, the Minister for Culture and Democracy of Sweden,also reacted to the incitement to violence by Barbaros Leylani, theformer Vice President of the Turkish National Association of Sweden.“What happened on Saturday [April 9] and the disgusting statementsmade are of course unacceptable,” said Bah Kuhnke. “They made me feelbad.”On April 9, the Coordination Center of Azerbaijani Associations inSweden had staged an anti-Armenian demonstration in Stockholm, and theevent had brought together around 100 people, including Turks andIraqi Turkmen.Speaking at the picket, Barbaros Leylani, the then Vice President ofthe Turkish National Association of Sweden, made numerousanti-Armenian and nationalist statements.In particular, he called for the death of “Armenian dogs.”The video of his remarks went viral in Sweden, and it got a wide media coverage.But in a telephone interview with TV4 Swedish television, Leylanistated that he had not prepared a speech for this demonstration, andthat he had not meant such a thing.Representatives of the Armenian community in Sweden, however,petitioned to the Swedish police and requested that this person beprosecuted.They noted that this matter is larger than the statement of just oneperson, since the Turkish and Azerbaijani associations in Sweden arebecoming more aggressive and are also targeting other nationalminorities in the country.https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__news.am_eng_news_322622.html&d=CwIFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=LVw5zH6C4LHpVQcGEdVcrQ&m=MolOrflpDSHpQi7wAsXy_WzH_SxpC5BiOf5VZlArSLY&s=Pi__68P-6nU2q35XPP1Dhqm6_xPGigonOiLAI3n2jEQ&e= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 Four-day war: Armenians strong when united, Armenian soldierinvincible - Meruzhan Ter-Gulanyan15:30 • 17.04.16In an interview with Tert.am, writer and columnist MeruzhanTer-Gulanyan, said that the four-day war early in April showedArmenians are a strong when they are united, the Armenian soldier isinvincible and the Armenian army is powerful. And it is theauthorities’ turn now, he says.Mr Ter-Gulanyan, the four-day war has revealed our strong and weakpoints. What lessons have we drawn in terms of both internal andexternal matters?The most important lesson of this war is that we have come to realizewe are strong people when we are united, our soldier is invincible andour army is powerful. As regards foreign affairs and the internationalcommunity, we have seen that, regrettably, the international communityis only dealing with problem by making statements equally addressed toboth the conflicting parties. Let the international community continueworking. I think we should expect resolution of the most seriousinternational diplomatic problems in the near future – recognition ofNagorno-Karabakh’s independence. Otherwise, it is going to be anever-lasting war. Nagorno-Karabakh’s independence must be recognized,and I think that the great and small countries that are reasonablehave arrived at this conclusion. The lessons we have drawn thefollowing lessons: making use of all the international diplomaticchannels for recognition of Nagorno-Karabakh’s independence. AggressorAzerbaijan, unaware of it, has made all the Armenians throughout theworld warriors. Armenians worldwide turned into one man, the man ofKarabakh. That is, we have all risen to defend our homeland.Mr Ter-Gulanyan our soldiers and people have accomplished their task.What are your expectations about the authorities?Yes, glory and honor to our soldiers. It is the authorities’ turn now,and they must show their respect for the people with their work. I amprostrating before our soldiers, and our authorities must kiss theirforeheads.https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.tert.am_en_news_2016_04_17_merujan-2Dter-2Dgulanyan_1992535&d=CwIFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=LVw5zH6C4LHpVQcGEdVcrQ&m=skcCU9rLQUONHDnU1GTqC438kBrOQfI3un3O8IMJ9B0&s=6SqOIKpRUsdpPu-l4OePmlvcafBNxq31HVq15Xdn--g&e= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 Azerbaijan is cynically trying to mislead the international communityand evade responsibility for the war crimes: NKR22:49, 15 April, 2016YEREVAN, APRIL 15, ARMENPRESS. A number of Azerbaijani media resourcespublished a statement by the Permanent Representative of Azerbaijan tothe OSCE, which refers to alleged traces of abuse discovered on thebodies of deceased Azerbaijani soldiers that were transferred to theAzerbaijani side during the exchange of April 10, with the mediationof the International Committee of the Red Cross and the Office of thePersonal Representative of the OSCE Chairperson-in-Office. As reports"Armenpress", in this connection NKR State Commission on Prisoners ofWar, Hostages and Missing Persons considers it necessary to state thefollowing:"Before the start of the exchange procedure, all bodies were examinedin the presence of representatives of the International Committee ofthe Red Cross. No traces of abuse or ill-treatment were discovered orregistered on the bodies of Azerbaijani soldiers.Through its groundless accusations voiced five days after theexchange, Azerbaijan is cynically trying to mislead the internationalcommunity and evade responsibility for the war crimes committed by theAzerbaijani army against civilians and soldiers of the NagornoKarabakh Republic, including numerous cases of mockery and mutilationof bodies of the deceased, previously reported by the Karabakh side." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 Soldier: “Four soldiers fought against forty” (video)15:56 | April 16,2016 | SocialA soldier, who on April 2 fought in one of the most dangerous spots,Talish, told “A1+” how everything happened. Aram personally took partin the operation of returning the posts, “On April 4 in the morning Iwent back to our posts, there was another position to be brought back,we hurried to help our 18-year-old soldiers, there was spate ofshells. I got an injury from a shell.”The fragment was removed; doctors assured him that he will fullyrecover and can return to the military duty. At present he thinksabout his military friends, who are at the army posts. But he is happythat they were able to give an appropriate counterattack to theadversary, while the Azerbaijanis didn’t expect it, “In the way, thatfour soldiers fought against forty.”The serviceman highlighted, the adversary planned the operationsbeforehand, “They had prepared secretly, for if it wasn’t donesecretly, our frontier troops would have noticed. Our border guardsare always awake and alert.”Aram is also delighted with the consolidation of the people duringthese days, “Maybe no one expected, there wasn’t faith that our peoplecan be so united. Everyone, even providing a little support, provedthat we are united.”https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youtube.com_watch-3Fv-3DYtCx7KAA4YU&d=CwIFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=LVw5zH6C4LHpVQcGEdVcrQ&m=8QBMbAsLiCH3qBaOxD3Z5Mbm2j0MgwYLMLe-LXs7uEI&s=WgTaP9NKxNw3qasNuhFbi_mPL2EufvKCvh1u9KPUBEo&e=https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__en.a1plus.am_1233735.html&d=CwIFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=LVw5zH6C4LHpVQcGEdVcrQ&m=8QBMbAsLiCH3qBaOxD3Z5Mbm2j0MgwYLMLe-LXs7uEI&s=Ffo_apejDqN3PhQw8vtM09EgruEKQkN4A2N-LLAz7Ns&e= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 Why It Is Armenians Who Won the 2nd Karabakh War They inflicted greater casualties on the better armed enemy and prevented it from attaining any meaningful military goals Anatoly Karlin http://russia-insider.com/sites/all/themes/insider/images/feed.png(The Unz Review) http://russia-insider.com/sites/all/themes/insider/images/feed.pngSat, Apr 16, 2016 | 1,870 19 http://russia-insider.com/sites/insider/files/styles/s400/public/servicemen-of-the-self.jpg?itok=5bHdijtCOriginally appeared at The Unz ReviewToday a ceasefire has been agreed upon between Azerbaijan and the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic, which unlike the unilateral ceasefire declared by Azerbaijan three days ago seems to be holding.This allows us to make some more conclusions observations on what happened.First, the Azeris have made gains, but their advance was ultimately quite modest – only around a quarter of a kilometer across a narrow stretch of the northern front – and ultimately ground to a halt. A total of eight defense positions were lost, as well as the village of Talish in the north. There are conflicting reports on whether Mataghis was captured – the weight of the evidence suggests that the Azeri assault failed with high casualties – while the main town and operational center for that front was never seriously threatened. It did suffer a bombardment, and was the target of intensive Azeri drone surveillance. Several Azeri drones were shot down around that area. The conflict also saw the first use in anger of the Israeli Harop “kamikaze” drone by the Azeris, which was remotely steered into a bus carrying Armenian volunteers, resulting in seven deaths.Second, as has become familiar from the War in Donbass, official and unofficial casualty figures differ by an order of magnitude. Oficially, there had been to date 35 Armenian military deaths 37 Azeri deaths, although each side claims 300-400 enemy casualties. I suspect it is closer to around 50-75 for the Armenians (especially once the 28 listed as MIA, most of which usually end up dead in the end, are accounted for) and up to 150 for the Azeris. The photographic evidence appears to show a lot more Azeri than Armenian troops, and in any case it stands to reason since it was the Azeris who were assaulting well-fortified positions.Furthermore, the NKR’s tally of how many tanks it lost – some fourteen of them – are virtually the same as Azeri claims of how many tanks it destroyed. In contrast, Azerbaijan implausibly acknowledges the loss of only one tank, whereas the Armenians claim they destroyed 29 tanks. Since it is harder to hide hardware losses, this suggests an NKR-Azeri combat loss ratio of 1:2. Apart from this, the Azeris have also lost several APCs, 1-2 Mi-24 helicopters, and tons of Israeli UAV’s (one of them was apparently downed by a hunter with a rifle! Not very good PR for Israel’s defense export industries). deluded-aliyev.jpg http://russia-insider.com/sites/insider/files/styles/1200xauto/public/deluded-aliyev.jpg?itok=6nrAb5jI All in all, it’s safe to say that at least so far, this has been a comprehensive defeat for Azerbaijan, regardless of how earnestly President Ilham Aliyev prevaricates on Twitter and the rather unconvincing assertions of Azeri propaganda.Their purely military gains were insubstantial, and attained at the cost of much higher losses in personnel and equipment than the worse-armed but far more motivated, skilled, and dug in NKR Army. This was accomplished without any reinforcements from Armenia proper. Any hopes for a blitzkrieg campaign have been dashed. Consequently, if the Azeris also intended to test the limits at which Russia would start moves to intervene, they failed at that as well through their failure to achieve any major military successes against NKR in the first place.Political AspectsThe Azeris also lost the information war. Although this flareup elicited very little European or American official commentary, it was clear that public opinion outside Turkey and Azerbaijan itself – at least as gauged by social media on Twitter and Reddit – was overwhelmingly on Armenia’s side. This was especially so after evidence of Azeri war crimes began to crop up, including the execution and mutilation of three Armenian civilians in Talish and the ISIS-style parading of the decapitated head of a Yazidi soldier from the NKR ranks (note that both links are probably NSFW). While the provenance of the former is uncertain, the latter appears to have definitely happened, appearing on a pro-Azerbaijan military Vkontakte page. There were also claims from pro-Armenian media sources that many Azeris in the ranks of Islamic State were turning to Azerbaijan. There is reason to be skeptical about this since it is unlikely that the sorts of Azeris who would go off to Raqqa would return to fight for a secular Shi’ite state.If the intent was to use military assault to catalyze the diplomatic process, that too must be considered a failure. Apart from Erdogan’s boorish but entirely predictable _expression_ of unconditional support for Azerbaijan, nobody else followed suit. Instead, everybody from Russia and Iran to NATO and the US issued formulaic injunctions to observe the ceasefire and resolve the issues through the OSCE Minsk Group (i.e. back to the status quo of doing nothing).Even the US was noncommital, with a State Department spokesman saying that the final status of Nagorno-Karabakh will be determined on the principles of “non-use of force or threat of force, territorial integrity of states, and the equal rights and self-determination of people.” The second and third points are of course self-contradictory in this case, but the reference to “threat of force” might have been a veiled rebuke against the Azeri Defense Minister for his threats to bomb the NGK capital Stepanakert.The only countries of note apart from Turkey to assume a decidedly pro-Baku position were Pakistan, Georgia, and Ukraine – but this ghost of the GUAM alliance is not really a diplomatic triumph by any stretch of the imagination.There was however one Azeri success, though. Or rather an Aliyev success. In Azerbaijan’s current economic circumstances, one might think the ruling dynasty could certainly do without is the media quacking about its offshore network of secret holding companies revealed by the Panama Papers. And unlike with Putin, Aliyev’s family members are directly mentioned as owners. It is worth noting that Mossack Fonseca had informed its clients of the data breach several months in advance, and they would have been aware of the approximate dates of its publication.Is there a conspiracy theory here? Who knows. It need not have been a decisive factor, since the mainstream media doesn’t have the freedom to talk about such things anyway, while foreign journalists can be fobbed off with the always reliable “[the children] are grown up and have the right to do business” excuse. Even so, it might well have been a significant contributory factor.After all, it is better to have people rhapsodizing about a “short victorious war,” or failing that at least about “our heroic shahids,” than grumbling about the plummeting currency and the offshore secrets of the elites.A Final “Optimistic” NoteAs I pointed out in my last post, this year represents the likely peak of Azeri military power relative to Armenia for at least the next decade. With Baku getting engulfed by financial crisis in the wake of the collapse of oil prices, it is cutting its military budget by 40% this year, in addition to already substantial cuts in 2015. This means its military modernization efforts will crawl to a stop. Those hi-tech toys its been “testing” these past few days are probably not going to be replaced anytime soon. Meanwhile, while the Armenian economy is hardly booming either, it can at least expect to maintain spending at similar levels or even increase them further considering the rising incidence and fierceness of its clashes with Azerbaijan.This means that for Azerbaijan, it is a question of now or later… where later might either be decades down the line, or even more likely, never.On the other hand, though these skirmishes were a far cry from what a real large-scale war would look like between Azerbaijan and Armenia-NKR, they were exceedingly useful from a calibration point of view in that they allowed the Azeris to get a good gauge on the actual combat effectiveness of their rebuilt army. They might well have concluded that the oil-splurge spending of the past decade didn’t automatically translate to much higher proficiency or combat effectiveness, with all that it entails for the prospects of a future large-scale operation to reconquer Nagorno-Karabakh (even putting to the side the issue of Russian intervention).In this sense, the continued bellicose rhetoric of the Azeris – and the Turks – regardless, the chances of a serious war in the future for Nagorno-Karabakh may well have actually diminished in the past few days.UPDATE: Now that the fog of war has cleared up, it has become clear that the Azeris even failed to retain the village of Talish. What a debacle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 New Armenia Front stresses the need to gain international recognitionof Azeri aggression against ArtsakhMonday, April 18, 18:55The New Armenia Front stresses the need to form legitimate power andensure the army's fighting efficiency needed for stable peace, the NewArmenia Front says in a statement that presents emergency steps aimedat overcoming the security crisis.The authors point out that it has become obvious during theAzerbaijani aggression along the line of contact of the Artsakh andAzerbaijani troops that the foreign and domestic policy of Armenia hasfailed. The statement stresses that the international community,including Armenia's strategic partner Russia and the CSTO memberstates have not recognized Azerbaijan's aggression against Artsakh."This has resulted in a security vacuum, which should be filled at theexpense of the potential of the Armenians worldwide. To ensure therequired level of combativity, it is necessary to enhance theefficiency of the defense system management due to significantchanges, as well as to concentrate the necessary financial means inthe hands of the state, and to increase the armed forces, first ofall, at the expense of police troops", the statement says. The membersof the New Armenia Front also think it necessary to hold snappresidential and parliamentary elections, to form a governmentenjoying public confidence and to appoint a person enjoying theconfidence of the army and the society as the supremecommander-in-chief.The New Armenia Front emphasizes that the UN Security Council and PACEshould adopt resolutions condemning Baku's aggression. It is alsonecessary to initiate the process of recognition of Artsakh by theOSCE Parliamentary Assembly.https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.arminfo.am_index.cfm-3Fobjectid-3D2CB91500-2D056D-2D11E6-2D802B0EB7C0D21663&d=CwIBaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=LVw5zH6C4LHpVQcGEdVcrQ&m=yZCsPsN9RLa-yBffCuhhTZLRsUc6_3btCEugowB1GzU&s=Ckmxc61LlR1vOfLrG5B6u4dSiYFdA0c1R7V1mVXeORQ&e= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 Naira Zohrabyan harshly criticizes Agramunt in PACE for supportingAzerbaijani aggression15:17, 18 April, 2016YEREVAN, APRIL 18, ARMENPRESS. PAP faction head Naira Zohrabyanaddressed harsh criticism to PACE President Pedro Agramunt during thePACE session, for his support of the Azerbaijani aggressive policy. As“Armenpress” reports, Naira Zohrabyan reminded all members of the PACEplenary session that Azerbaijan attacked Nagorno Karabakh andcommitted war crimes. “Azerbaijan clearly targeted civilians andbombarded civilian settlement. They bombarded schools, killed peacefulcivilians, cut off their ears, mutilated the corpses of Armeniansoldiers, decapitated their heads and put it on display to peacefulcivilians”, Zohrabyan said.She said the fact that PACE President expressed his support toAzerbaijan’s authoritarian and aggressive policy is unacceptable. “Itis known that the active PACE President is also Aliyev’s speaker, hewas in Azerbaijan and expressed support to Aliyev’s regime. However,the Council of Europe must respect the rights of Europe’s citizens,and the PACE President must be serious and must not defend obviousauthoritarianism and war crimes”, Zohrabyan added.https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__armenpress.am_eng_news_843928_naira-2Dzohrabyan-2Dharshly-2Dcriticizes-2Dagramunt-2Din-2Dpace-2Dfor-2Dsupporting-2Dazerbaijani-2Daggression.html&d=CwIFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=LVw5zH6C4LHpVQcGEdVcrQ&m=6ogzzSaA6BzVWp8rwUe0yMKxPJuhA8oUWH0_ybRv-Rg&s=Bfljadt0SyJRA5AlLtaGVn82G_hK9Tmpy_w2wtKjKac&e= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 More volunteers go to Karabakh frontline to replace their friends (video)19:20 | April 18,2016 | RegionsSome 70 Yerkrapah volunteers from Shirak province have left for theKarabakh frontline today to replace their friends in combat positions.Everyone, who expressed desire to leave for Artsakh, has joined thegroup without any age limit. The group received correspondinginstructions and commands before departure, Tsayg TV reports.https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__youtu.be_BhVAdEEi-2DMc&d=CwIBaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=LVw5zH6C4LHpVQcGEdVcrQ&m=k_bieIPpdFw3igdxaK73LLxhdTd5QJEkql1kjIZqYu8&s=U_Jt3wOxbtzWCFzGTtTkYIBF1vilJ5RzzvDmg386iEk&e=https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__en.a1plus.am_1233879.html&d=CwIBaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=LVw5zH6C4LHpVQcGEdVcrQ&m=k_bieIPpdFw3igdxaK73LLxhdTd5QJEkql1kjIZqYu8&s=0_UKtdqk6mm2aQUD_DhJUGcnjKcp9ZaRn27BBwVB6ww&e= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 Nagorno Karabakh issue replaced with that of “Panama Papers” in PACE agendaPOLITICS 15:25 18/04/2016 WORLDThe spring session of the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council ofEurope (PACE) launched on April 18 in Strasburg to last until April22. Nagorno Karabakh issue was suggested to be included in the currentaffairs section of the agenda.According to Panorama.am reporter in Strasburg, three titles have beensuggested for the discussion: ‘Crimes committed by Azerbaijan duringthe recent aggression toward Nagorno Karabakh’ suggested by theArmenian delegation, ‘The tragic escalation of violence inNagorno-Karabakh and other occupied territories of Azerbaijan’suggested by the Azerbaijani delegation and ‘The last and tragicescalation of the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict’ suggested by a Frenchparliamentarian.It was also suggested to include a current affairs debate on “The caseof the 'Panama Papers' and the concern about fiscal, social justiceand public trust in our democratic system”.During the PACE Bureau discussion prior to the session it was decidedto include the issue of the ‘Panama Papers’ as a topic for currentaffairs debate.The Bureau has the right for only one and final decision which needsto be approved by the members of the Assembly.According to Head of the Armenian Delegation, Hermine Naghdalyan, theBureau held a heated debate. Members of the Bureau noted that only 2months ago PACE held a large-scale discussion concerning Karabakh whenBritish parliamentarian, Robert Walter’s report was rejected, and theposition of PACE members haven’t changed since.The President of Austria, Heinz Fischer, the President of the EuropeanCommission, Jean-Claude Juncker, and the Prime Ministers of Georgia,Giorgi Kvirikashvili, and Turkey, Ahmet Davutoglu, are among leadingpersonalities due to address the Parliamentary Assembly of the Councilof Europe during its spring session.As reports the PACE official website, the refugee and migrant crisisin Europe will be on the agenda, with debates on a stronger Europeanresponse to the Syrian refugee crisis, the human rights of refugeesand migrants in the Western Balkans and the new challenge posed byforced migration. There has also been a request for an urgent debateon “The Savchenko case”.The Minister for Foreign Affairs of Bulgaria, Daniel Mitov, willaddress the Assembly in his capacity as Chairman of the Committee ofMinisters, and the Council of Europe Commissioner for Human Rights,Nils Muiznieks, will present his annual activity report 2015. TheSecretary General of the Council of Europe, Thorbjørn Jagland, willanswer questions from parliamentarians.It should be noted that for the first time in PACE history, PACEPresident, Pedro Agramunt refused to give a press conference prior tothe session.https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.panorama.am_en_news_2016_04_18_Nagorno-2DKarabakh-2DPanama-2DPapers-2DPACE_1564545&d=CwIFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=LVw5zH6C4LHpVQcGEdVcrQ&m=oMbBPGfBiVIPhzVe3ZtrEgzIbndO5fP3-hlBzpn73ZI&s=jn_sGDbo4OF5-fMKju5TUFzwXHJS3j-6dp71n-dp5N0&e= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 Vladimir Kazimirov blames Azerbaijan for wrecking negotiations18:25, 18 April, 2016YEREVAN, APRIL 18, ARMENPRESS. Former Russian Co-chair of the OSCEMinsk Group Vladimir Kazimirov touched upon the Nagorno Karabakhconflict in the context of recent hostilities in theKarabakh-Azerbaijan contact line. “Armenpress” reports Kazimirov notedat the start of the article that much has been said about the termsand complexities of Nagorno Karabakh conflict. The former Ambassadorspeaks about the conflict as unusual in terms of its stakeholders,which are three, not two (Armenia, Nagorno Karabakh, Azerbaijan).Referring to the military onslaught of Azerbaijan against NagornoKarabalh on April 2, Kazimirov mentions that it was the largestin-scale and most bloodiest military operation since the establishmentof the ceasefire regime 22 years ago. In his words, the long-lastingnegotiations for the settlement of the conflict did not refrain Bakufrom using force again.“There is a necessity to comprehensively examine the controversialactions of Azerbaijani leadership during each regime of that country.The political struggle for the fate of Nagorno Karabakh moved tobattlefield, which was the first armed conflict in the Soviet Union.No doubt, Baku was the initiator of use of force. Since then Baku haschanged both its military and political-diplomatic policy many times.It is a pity but a fact that it is a long time Baku neglects itscommitments assumed by signing official documents. Still 3 monthsbefore the establishment of the ceasefire, on February 18, 1994, theDefense Minister of Azerbaijan signed a record together with theDefense Ministers of Armenia and Nagorno Karabakh about meeting inMoscow, where the sides were obliged to withdraw their troops from thecontact line after the ceasefire would enter into force. But laterBaku refused to withdraw its troops, which resulted in deliberate orun-deliberate incidents in the future. This is one of the main reasonsof the tension”, Kazimirov wrote.He added that the announcements of state officials and the OSCE MinskGroup Co-chairs demonstrate that that the one that has violated theagreements does not bear any responsibility, because the statements ofcondolences and kind calls are nothing else but an attempt not tooffend that country. “Here a question rises. What content should havethe calls urging to respect commitments? It should be mentioned thatduring the rule of Heydar Aliyev the Defense Ministry of Azerbaijanordered to avoid from ceasefire violations, and even punished thoseresponsible for the violations. The same was done in Nagorno Karabakhand Azerbaijan. Is something similar possible nowadays? Just thecontrary, we never hear that someone was punished. It is also wellknown how Baku glorified murderer Ramil Rafarov. Ilham Aliyev alwaysspeaks about the return of “occupied territories”, forgetting thateverything happened as a result of wrong calculations of Baku. This isalso a cause of the conflict, but it is not the first by significanceand from the perspective of the conflict settlement”, the articlereads.Kazimirov states that the root cause of the conflict is over thestatus of Nagorno Karabakh, and Baku denies solve that issue.Kazimirov believes it is an urgent problem for now that theinternational community and the mediators understand the false gameplayed by Baku and call the things by their names. “Enough to makegeneral announcements referring to the parties of the conflict. It istime to make more addressed calls and call things by their names,displaying the negative behavior of the political leadership of Baku”,Kazimirov concluded.https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__armenpress.am_eng_news_843979_vladimir-2Dkazimirov-2Dblames-2Dazerbaijan-2Dfor-2Dwrecking-2Dnegotiations.html&d=CwIFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=LVw5zH6C4LHpVQcGEdVcrQ&m=T-B18OEM9iDSTMinfWQLeGXKpiqMbUH5uTODAxamThc&s=mnoWgn7d9TrZ-e2Cxj38oTEK-zFUNlMoVnOKkDkwLeo&e= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 The lessons of the new war17:42 | April 18 2016We knew that Russia has sold serious weapons to Azerbaijan under theso to speak “business plan”. We are sure that Azerbaijan would havereceived a serious military aid from Turkey, moreover, not under thebusiness plan but absolutely free. We also learned that on March 31,2016, Israeli provide anti-tank laser rockets to Azerbaijan.“Azerbaijan is the first country acquiring these rockets and it hascertainly given an advantage to its military capabilities.” These arenot our assumptions but an evidence by Alexander Murinson, a fellow ofBegin-Sadat Center for Strategic Studies, Bar-Ilan University, Israel,in his interview with “Voice of America” Azerbaijani service.In fact, military equipment is supplied to economically incomparablyrich Azerbaijan from the right and left while the Armenian soldier isfighting with weapons produced in the “80’s”. In that sense, our armyis truly the most combative army in the region. The fierce battles ofthe war in recent days showed that the Armenian soldiers with theirdevotion and self-sacrifice managed to neutralize and in fact destroythese advantages of military equipment of Azerbaijani army. Shouldthese advantages ensured serious advantages to them in thebattlefield, they would not even think about a temporary ceasefire. Infact, a soldier is fighting from our side and weapons from their side.Undoubtedly, on the first days of the war, all the weapons andammunition available with Azerbaijanis was not used. Definitely, theyhave other and more horrible weapons. But we also have not used theentire military potential. Thousands of volunteers are readily waitingfor their turn. This fact not only gives hope and strength to ourpeople but also to our army and our army leadership.In short, we are alone and strong. We are alone also in the politicalsense. If the EaEU leader Russia, on these days, is putting the signof equality between the EaEU member state Armenia and Azerbaijan, theEaEU member Kazakhstan is obviously acting as Azerbaijan’s supporter,if the Belarus representatives are making gratuitously and mostlyirrelevant speeches in favor of the territorial integrity ofAzerbaijan, this means that we are more than alone in the foreignpolitical arena. We are confident that if the occasion grants,Georgian and Ukrainian politicians and statesmen will also talk infavor of Azerbaijan’s territorial integrity. As they say, “there areno eternal friends and enemies, there are only interests.” Therelations between Russia and Azerbaijan are the proof of it. We wouldnot be surprised if tomorrow or the day after tomorrow Russia andTurkey would review their relations too, in accordance with theirinterests.As for us, life shows that we have no option of dropping our eternalenemies, especially since not only our eternal enemies are reluctantto do it but also our eternal “friends.” As for the territorialintegrity of Azerbaijan and the positive attitude of Ukraine andothers, recently, one of our opposition members expressed an opinionthat if we had protected the interests of Ukrainians on the Crimea,Ukrainians would not support the territorial integrity of Azerbaijan.A naïve and amateur opinion. Ukrainians and Georgians have the issueof Crimea, Abkhazia and Ossetia, and it is impossible for them tospeak against the territorial integrity of Azerbaijan. When the SovietUnion was collapsing, everyone was giving preference toself-determination of peoples, and based on this principle, the Sovietrepublics became independent. Now, the world and especially the worldpowers give the preference to the territorial integrity. Kosovo, infact, was an exception. Many of the world powers are against Artsakhto be the next exception. But this does not mean that we should sitidle. Fighting in the battlefield alone and coming out of this heavysituations with dignity, we need to seek and find supporters in thepolitical field and make the world guided by double standards torealize that the people of Artsakh have the right to build their stateon their historical and ancestral land like all the peoples in theworld. And it’s already a quarter of a century it builds its state: asmall, beautiful and a wonderful state. Incidentally, they arebuilding it with the arms in their hands because they are many whodisturb and few who support.Voskan YEREVANTSY,“Aravot”https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__en.aravot.am_2016_04_18_175816_&d=CwIFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=LVw5zH6C4LHpVQcGEdVcrQ&m=3h4wVxBhVh66k3FzVZJhZz6dA_QoQR0ihJVxXW9OffU&s=54b1ukFH3ZUiW3HxhEATtrcLmGHjj1cmXyvrUPsWXYc&e= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 Swedish premier announces anti-Armenian Turkish minister’s resignation22:05 • 18.04.16Swedish Prime Minister Stefan Löfven on Monday announced theresignation of Mehmet Kaplan, an ethnic Turkish minister known for hisanti-Armenian views.In a speech at a press conference, Mr Löfven expressed thegovernment’s distrust of the minister, citing it as a seriousjustification behind the decision to dismiss him. He said that aminister, who is responsible for heading a government institution inSweden, must be able to represent the country without giving way toany suspicion about his/her conduct.With that move, the Swedish Foreign Ministry reacted to theintra-governmental crisis in the country, which had gained ground inthe past week after the daily Expressen published a photo featuringKaplan dining with Barbaros Leylani, an author of anti-Armenianstatements, and Ilhan Senturk, the head the Swedish wing of theTurkish nationalist organization Grey Wolves, the Armenian ForeignMinistry’s press service reports.The revealed link between the minister, and Islamists andnationalists, was severely criticized by both governmentrepresentatives, and the opposition and the society. The mediarecalled Kaplan’s statement – made several years ago – comparingMuslim fighters heading to Syria with the Swedish people who aidedFinns during the Soviet-Finnish war.Kaplan’s 2009 speech, delivered in a Turkish association in Sweden tocompare Israel’s policy towards the Palestinians with the Nazipolicies in relation to Jews, was published once again.After the opposition threatened to impeach Kaplan in parliament, PrimeMinister Löfven sacked him to avoid a decline in the government’sreputation.According to an official statement on the Swedish Government’swebsite, Minister for Financial Markets Per Bolund will replaceKaplan, who was the minister of housing and urban development since2014.https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.tert.am_en_news_2016_04_18_kaplan_1994250&d=CwIFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=LVw5zH6C4LHpVQcGEdVcrQ&m=F5SQS5QK6tOwSJNHpxjECY3O4_dalyf2DutspEFYQAU&s=HUHgLGIqW1m6RsxXPGm5yGQst3KYUywpR2GgQSwIT9A&e= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 STRATFORApril 17 2016A Game Much Larger Than Nagorno-KarabakhAnalysisApril 17, 2016By Eugene ChausovskyI was in Armenia with one questioning burning in my mind: Should I goto Nagorno-Karabakh?My original plan was to spend the weekend in the disputed territoryafter a week working in Armenia's capital, Yerevan. But that wasbefore military activity escalated in Nagorno-Karabakh on the nightbetween April 1 and April 2. The action pitted Karabakh fightersagainst Azerbaijani soldiers in the most violent flare-up since thesigning of the 1994 Bishkek Protocol cease-fire. While I knew it wasunlikely a major conflict akin to the 1988-1994 war would break out, Iwas still uneasy about visiting an area where guns were going off. Asit turned out, the two sides signed a new cease-fire on April 5. And,though a bit of cross-border fighting continues, the deal reduced theviolence considerably. A flurry of diplomatic activity followed,primarily by Russia but also by Turkey and the West, further coolingthings down in the area. That settled it. My mind made up, I set mysights on Nagorno-Karabakh.The Way to Nagorno-KarabakhEarly the next morning, I was on my way. I caught a taxi to Yerevan'smain bus station, where I'd heard marshrutkas — the Soviet-eramini-buses you find throughout the former Soviet Union — left everyhour for Stepanakert. My cab driver, a sad-looking old man in a rundown Lada sedan, told me he used to live in Baku during Soviet times,but that he fled to Yerevan when the Nagorno-Karabakh War broke out inthe late 1980s, a common story around these parts. Azerbaijanis whoonce lived in Armenia tell similar tales. "You're not scared?" heasked, when I said I was going to the region. "Oh, just Stepanakert.You'll be fine." Half an hour later, I found myself in a marshrutkawith about 15 other passengers, heading for the quasi-independentstatelet.There are only two roads leading from Armenia proper toNagorno-Karabakh — the Lachin corridor in the south and the Karvajarpass in the north. There is no functioning railway, and a recentlyrenovated airport in Stepanakert never actually opened afterAzerbaijan threatened to shoot down any planes that used it. Theweather dictated we use the southern route, so off we set.The road to the border was breathtaking and presented a few lessons inthe region's geopolitics of its own. Small villages such as Artashatand Ararat offered glimpses into the past, where Soviet-era apartmentblocks mixed with makeshift storefronts and tumbledown shacks. Justdown the road, one might see a small, simple Armenian Orthodox churchor a shepherd and his flock.The road to Nagorno-Karabakh, which offers a few lessons ingeopolitics of its own. (EUGENE CHAUSOVSKY/Stratfor)After an hour or so, we reached the town of Yeraskh, near Armenia'sborder with the Azerbaijani exclave of Nakhchivan and just a fewkilometers away from the frontiers of both Turkey and Iran. Fromthere, we headed east on the M12 highway. The landscape grew morerugged, with large, reddish-brown hills making way for snow-cappedmountains as we entered the Lesser Caucasus range. Slowly anddeterminedly, the marshrutka wound its way through the mountains overnarrow roads scarred with potholes. And, while the broken (orsometimes entirely missing) guardrails made me catch my breath, theview of the imposing mountain range and seemingly bottomless gorgeswas stunning.Four hours later we passed the town of Goris and began nearing theborder of Nagorno-Karabakh. Here, signs of the recent hostilitiesbegan to show themselves. Five Kamaz military trucks passed by inrapid succession, followed shortly after by another group of vehicles.Closer to the border, we saw several large trucks loaded with tanksparked near the side of the road. Then came the border checkpoint,where a handful of men in military and police uniforms manned a smallbuilding.Nagorno-Karabakh At LastAfter a brief but slightly tense check-in at the border, we made ourway into Nagorno-Karabakh. We passed small, backward-looking villagesscattered across majestic green mountains. We also began to see signsand billboards displaying "Artaskh," the local name forNagorno-Karabakh, as well as the region's flags, distinguishable fromthe red, blue and yellow Armenian flag only by the hollow whitetriangle jutting out from their right sides. The drive intoStepanakert was marked by the ruins of buildings and run-downapartment blocks strewn about the mountainous landscape. Kamazmilitary vehicles passed by us with increasing frequency. More andmore large concrete apartment blocks appeared as we approached thecity center, which had a gloomy and gray Soviet character. At 4 p.m.,about seven hours after we left Yerevan, we pulled into theStepanakert bus station.At the station, I met my contact. A stout, friendly-looking man in hismid-40s, he offered to take me to a hotel. Better yet, he said, Icould stay at his place, where I'd have my own room and home-cookedmeals, all for less than the cost of a hotel. Alone in the city andinterested in a closer look at local life, I happily accepted.An apartment building in Stepanakert. (EUGENE CHAUSOVSKY/Stratfor)His flat was in a typical Soviet apartment block not far from the busstation. There I met his wife, also stout and friendly, whoimmediately brought out strong Armenian coffee and sweets. He thenoffered to give me a tour of some must-see sites aroundNagorno-Karabakh while there was still daylight. After assurances fromboth he and his wife that it was safe, we set off in his Lada 4x4.We headed north out of the city toward Gandzasar, a monastery my hostdescribed as the best place to see in the region. After just a fewminutes, we passed the Tatik-Papik monument, an iconic symboldisplaying Nagorno-Karabakh's Armenian heritage. The monument, made ofArmenia's trademark pink stone, depicts the large heads of a man andwoman. In Armenian, its name means "Grandma and Grandpa." Besides theoccasional military vehicle, the road to Gandzasar was eerily quiet.With the exception of a few shepherds, very few people were out, andas we passed rickety homes and simple farms that appeared abandoned,one could not help but think they had left because of the recentoutbreak of violence.My host told me that he was born and raised in Nagorno-Karabakh, andthat he had fought in the 1988-1994 war with Azerbaijan. Despite agrenade wound from 1991 and lingering injuries in his back andshoulder, he was still a reservist and was prepared to fight if warbroke out again. These days, he works as a taxi driver and anoccasional guide for tourists visiting the area. Economically, timesare tough right now, he said. The territory depends largely onagriculture and is almost entirely supported by Armenia and theArmenian diaspora. Jobs are scarce, and because of the war andNagorno-Karabakh's isolation, opportunities are limited.The Tatik-Papik monument, on the way to the Gandzasar monastery.(EUGENE CHAUSOVSKY/Stratfor).Just outside the village of Vank, we stopped to visit the magnificent10th-century Gandzasar monastery, perched on a hilltop overlooking themountains. Inside, the monastery was dim and deathly quiet. On our wayout, we passed some locals who had also come to visit the monastery.Aside from the odd shepherd or farmer, they were the only people I sawthat day out and about. According to my host, the road to Gandzasar isnormally bustling. The recent violence was the reason things were soquiet.Done with our visits, we headed back to my host's house for a familymeal. The dinner table was packed with local and regional delicacies:eggplant salad, pickled cabbage, roast chicken, solanka and deliciousArmenian bread. We washed it all down with locally made grape vodka,accompanied by the sound of my guide's many toasts, which werepeppered throughout the meal. The couple's two children joined us, a20-year-old daughter and an 18-year-old son. The daughter studieslinguistics at a local university and told me she loves Americanculture. A big fan of Game of Thrones, she chatted throughout thenight in good English. The son, on the other hand, barely spoke aword. He will soon have to join the army, a nerve-wracking prospectgiven the current state of affairs.It was a pleasant and enjoyable evening, and I was grateful to be withsuch a kind family that went out of its way to be hospitable duringsuch a difficult time. Moreover, it occurred to me that I couldimagine spending a similar night around a family's table in Yerevan orBaku and feel little difference. Though these were people whose livesand worldviews had undoubtedly been shaped by their location, they hadso much in common with others I've met in Azerbaijan, Armenia andelsewhere throughout the world. If anyone is trapped by geopolitics, Ithought, it's them.Wandering in StepanakertThe next morning, my host dropped me off near the center ofStepanakert. I wanted to get a look around the city. After jumping outof the Lada, I headed toward Renaissance Square, home toNagorno-Karabakh's presidential palace and parliament building. Thearea was tense, scattered with military personnel, and I saw only afew civilians moving about. I got the feeling that it wouldn't be agood idea to just wander around aimlessly, so I ducked into a nearbyhotel. Inside, the cafe was empty, except for two old men sharing atable in silence. I ordered a coffee, but felt I'd better not lingerand left soon after.I decided to walk around the city center for a while. About 50,000people live in Stepanakert, which looks a lot like many former Sovietcities around its size. But what stuck out was the sheer number ofmilitary personnel around, who, if not for their uniforms, wouldeasily blend in with the rest of the population. I saw soldierschatting with civilians on the street, waiting at bus stops, buyingbread at kiosks. Military vehicles passed by frequently and werealmost as common as regular cars.Around noon I stepped into a cafe for lunch. Almost immediately, mywaitress asked suspiciously where I came from. When I told her I wasoriginally from Kiev and was in Nagorno-Karabakh on a tourist visitfrom Yerevan, she lightened up. She told me about her life, and howher husband's death in the war in 1994 had left her to raise twochildren on her own. She said the recent escalation was a senselessone, and that young people were dying for no reason. She also told methat someone had come into the same cafe yesterday and had spent sixhours on his computer before the police came and took him away. Takingthis as a cue that I'd better not hang around too long, I called myhost for a ride after a few more minutes of talking. I felt a lot morecomfortable with him than wandering the city alone.He showed up a short while later and we set off for the town ofShushi, just a few kilometers to the south. Shushi is the historicalcapital of Nagorno-Karabakh that was left largely in ruins by the1988-94 war. Now, the city is a cultural center for the region. Wetook in a few sights, including the 19th-century Verkhiya Mosque.Back in Stepanakert, my host organized a shared taxi back to Yerevan.After saying goodbye, I was on my way. Thankfully, the bordercheckpoint was much less eventful this time around. A guard skimmed mypassport and let me pass, and we rumbled down the road away fromNagorno-Karabakh, leaving behind the quirks and charms of a placetrapped in a game much larger than itself.https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.stratfor.com_analysis_game-2Dmuch-2Dlarger-2Dnagorno-2Dkarabakh&d=CwIFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=LVw5zH6C4LHpVQcGEdVcrQ&m=lSR81lHF6lcucyJIBGupm-KbSUWR-1elOvSm0KJF7JM&s=KC1fZzDqMN-bGV7ZEId-U92I7PFi7fyidfzoNQpL474&e= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 Stop shooting, EC President Jean-Claude Junker tells Azerbaijan15:04, 19 Apr 2016Siranush GhazanchyanPresident of the European Commission Jean-Claude Junker has called onAzerbaijan to stop shooting.Jean-Claude Junker addressed the Parliamentary Assembly of the Councilof Europe in Strasbourg today.Azerbaijani delegate *****eva asked a question on Azeri refugees andthe Nagorno Karabakh conflict.President of the European Commission was very short and clear “Onething that I can say to Azerbaijan is ‘Stop shooting, stop fighting’followed by applauds by the Assembly members.https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.armradio.am_en_2016_04_19_stop-2Dshooting-2Dec-2Dpresident-2Djean-2Dclaude-2Djunker-2Dtells-2Dazerbaijan_&d=CwIFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=LVw5zH6C4LHpVQcGEdVcrQ&m=pO2NtfE_rXa27xyU76z_KkCaBilfE2X76g4XzSHReSU&s=-FojbqTljkk0APQ-jnpR51GZyis6WTLdlH3hDL8JcpY&e= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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