Comedistan

[Yervant1]

The whole thing doesn't make sense at all, just random tid bits put together.

[Yervant1]

An idiot is born every minute!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

What other excuse would they think of next?

 

 

 

A NEW INTERPRETATION OF THE ARMENIAN DEPORTATIONS IN WORLD WAR I

By Eberhard Demm

 

Hurriyet Daily News

 

Nov 30 2009

Turkey

 

During World War II, some 5 to 6 million Jews were murdered to destroy

them as an ethnic group - the paradigm case of genocide. Now imagine

for a moment that the Nazis had spared three categories of people:

Jews willing to be baptized, pretty women in order to marry them and

children to be brought up as "Aryans" in German families.

 

Would you still define this as genocide? Certainly not. Yet the German

diplomats who compiled the most trustworthy and comprehensive documents

about the Armenian deportations mentioned many such cases.

 

First of all, they reported that not only Armenians, but also members

of other Christian groups - Nestorians, Jacobites, Chaldees, Catholic

Syrians and Protestants, though no Orthodox - were deported as well.

 

They also observed that during the deportations, "women disappeared

in harems and children would grow up as Muslims." In several places,

Armenians could avoid deportation and probable death if they converted

to Islam. Sometimes they were even forced to do so.

 

For instance, in Gemerek, near Sivas, 30 of the prettiest girls were

rounded up and told: "Either you become Muslims or you die!" Although

they refused to convert, the governor ordered that they be integrated

into Turkish families. Such attitudes cannot be compared with the Shoah

genocide, but are reminiscent more of medieval Christian crusades,

when, for instance, in 1147, the abbot Bernard of Clairvaux, later

sanctified by the Catholic Church, proclaimed for the war against

the pagan Slavs "death or baptism."

 

To avoid any misunderstanding: I do not deny nor excuse the tragedy

that several hundreds of thousands of Armenians either died from

starvation or were massacred during the deportations, mostly by Kurdish

and Cherkess bandits and by the death squadrons of TeÅ~_kilat-ı

Mahsusa, the secret police at the time, whose ranks were recruited from

released convicts. I also do not deny that some of the more radical

Young Turks intended an ethnic cleansing. But most of the murderers

had different reasons: Apart from pure lust for slaughter and booty,

they were motivated by a profound hate of Christians, reinforced by

the first proclamation of modern jihad in November 1914 by Sultan

Mehmed V and Essad Effendi, Sheikh-ul-Islam. To be sure, this had

never been practiced in medieval jihad and traditional Islam, which

tolerated Jews and Christians. Only the modern jihad has degenerated

into indiscriminate killings of Christians and Muslims alike.

 

We must also not forget the political reason for the deportations. In

spring 1915, the Ottoman Empire was in the deadly grip of a double

menace - the Allied operation against the Dardanelles and the

Russian invasion of eastern Anatolia - while German and Austrian

support for Turkey was still blocked by neutral countries in the

Balkans. At the same time, the threat of an Armenian "Fifth Column"

seemed very real: A few isolated Armenian revolts had broken out, and

tens of thousands of Turkish Armenians, led by the former Armenian

deputy of the Ottoman parliament, Armen Karo, fought as traitors in

the Russian army against their own country, with the special task to

stir up revolts in eastern Anatolia.

 

Approximately one year ago, 200 Turkish intellectuals started the

"özurdiliyoruz" Internet campaign apologizing for the Armenian

massacres, and more than 30,000 people have signed this declaration

since. In spring 2006, I had in vain, through Turkish diplomatic

channels, suggested such a step to the Turkish authorities, in order to

ward off the forthcoming Armenian resolution by the German Bundestag,

but the time was not yet ripe. However, I wonder now if the Armenian

diaspora would be ready to offer an apology as well, because their

people were not totally innocent either.

 

During the Russian offensive against Van, Armenians also committed

atrocities in some Turkish villages, although on a much smaller scale.

 

In the 1920s, they executed several Young Turks held responsible for

the massacres, amongst them Ahmed Cemal *****, who, as governor of

Syria, had been opposed to the deportations and had saved hundreds of

thousands of Armenians in order to resettle them in Syria. In the 1970s

and 1980s, they assassinated approximately 80 people and wounded 400,

most of them innocent Turkish diplomats.

 

The international repercussions of the whole problem are sometimes

underrated in Turkey. Most French politicians, partly under Armenian

influence, are determined to block full Turkish membership in the

European Union. In 2006, the French parliament even passed a law

against the denial of an Armenian genocide. In light of a petition

of protest signed by 800 historians from around the world, amongst

them myself, harsh sanctions such as prison time were waived, but

the law itself was not abrogated.

 

I sincerely hope that the new commission, set up according to the

recent treaty between Turkey and Armenia, will reach an internationally

acknowledged agreement on this hotly disputed question and pave the

way for a definite reconciliation of Turks and Armenians.

 

* Eberhard Demm is a retired history professor based in Germany. The

views expressed here are the author's own.

[Arpa]

Infidel/gavur/ԱՆՀԱՒԱՏ?

I could not decide where to post this so I chose this Topic.

See what we wrote about “gavur/infidel“.

In addition, also see who calls whom fascist, nazi, racist, semite anti-semite etc.

Of late we have been earing that the furks are turning anti-semite, and that hitler's masterpiece is the most populat book , while at the same time they are snuggling up with largest “Semitic tribe” the Muslim Arab world.

http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=1554&view=&hl=gavur&fromsearch=1

http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=24188&st=20

Look who’s calling whom “infidel/gavur”.

http://www.umd.umich.edu/dept/armenian/sas/bour.html

The English translation by J. Buchan Telfer, published by the Hakluyt Society, reads:

I have also been a great deal in Armenia. After Tämerlin [Tamerlane] died, I came to his son, who has two kingdoms in Armenia. He was named Scharoch [shahrokh]; he liked to be in Armenia, because there is a very beautiful plain. He remained there in winter with his people, because there was good pasturage. A great river runs through the plain; it is called the Chur [Kur], and it is also called the Tygris [Cyrus ?]; and near this river, in the same country, is the best silk. The Infidels [Muslims] call the plain, in the Infidel tongue, Karawag [Karabakh]. The Infidels possess it all, and yet it stands in Ermenia [Armenia]. There are also Armenians in the villages, but they must pay tribute to the Infidels.

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Buniatov has entirely omitted from his edition the above material which is in boldface type.

I re-boldfaced it.

[Yervant1]

AZERBAIJANIS TAKE REVENGE ON UKRAINE FOR TRUTH ABOUT NAGORNY KARABAKH

 

ArmInfo

2009-12-09 12:31:00

 

ArmInfo. The camera crew of one of the Azerbaijani TV channels will

leave for Ukraine to prepare a 18-minute film about that country,

the Nezavisimaya Gazeta reported. In particular, the authors of the

project are going to visit Kiev, Western Ukraine, Transcarpathian

region, Eastern Ukraine and the Crimea. The TV group plans to present

Western Ukraine as historical territory of Poland and Lvov as a Polish

city. As for Eastern Ukraine, it will be presented as a historical land

of Russia and Kiev as the heart of the Russian culture of pre-Mongol

epoch, Transcarpathian region as the Hungarian land and the Crimea

as the Tatar land invaded by Russian emperors and illegal gifted to

Ukraine by Khruchev. The authors are going to revenge for the report

"Nagorny Karabakh - Territory Where Time Has Stuck" broadcasted by

the Ukrainian Inter TV. The "counter-report" will be translated into

foreign languages and broadcasted on several TV channels. It will be

available also in the web.

[Zartonk]

What's even funnier than the fact that they are paranoid enough to get up, fly to a far off country and make a film about how someone else is responsible for that country's cultural history is the use of the word revenge.

 

Take that, Ukraine!

 

[Yervant1]

If and when they get pissed with the Turks, they will send a tv crew to Eastern Turkey and in the documentary they will proclaim that it's Armenian lands. And later they will realize their mistake.

 

I wish they make more of it! This way they will be ridiculed to no end.

[Arpa]

Azerbaijan: A show to make a cat laugh

http://news.am/en/news/11155.html

Is this the Cheshire Cat?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4b/Cheshire_Cat_McGee.jpg

By Ivan Gharibyan

The Azeri authorities have once again made everyone laugh by their clumsy attempt to lay claims to Nagorno-Karabakh. The December 23 local elections “presented an opportunity.”

The election campaign has been marked by too many manifestations of the “Aliyev-style democracy.” Specifically, most of the candidates were nominated by the Yeni Azerbaijan (New Azerbaijan) Party. The Opposition, which attempted to participate in the elections, was not provided with airtime on the Public Television of Azerbaijan, as, to meet the requirement, it had to nominate candidates for at least 50% of the municipalities. In present-day Azerbaijan, with all the media outlets controlled by the presidential administration, and many opposition journalists jailed, none of the political forces except for the ruling party is able to make a serious bid for participating in the elections.

At the same time, Azerbaijan, as usual, has no problems with voter turnout. Whole staffs were brought to the polling stations, and the central TV channels reported on “the people voting in an organized way.”

The greatest joy, however, was an election show in the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic (NKR). Headquartered in Baku, the Central Electoral Commission of Azerbaijan even “opened” two election districts in the NKR. Thus, while incessantly speaking of the Armenian occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh, Azerbaijan claims elections are held in the “occupied” territories.

The “voting” in the two “election districts” in the NKR will help the ruling party to get the necessary number of votes. The former Azerbaijani residents of the Nagorno-Karabakh autonomous region were to take part in the voting, but they left the region as a result of the conflict and settled down in Azerbaijan. They have actually voted, but the number of voters has been exaggerated: Azerbaijan still hopes for the return of refugees to Nagorno-Karabakh and is constantly exaggerating their number. So the Central Electoral Commission reported a high voter turnout in the “two districts” in the NKR, which are the product of the Azeri leaders’ “great imagination.”

Well, the neighboring state decided to amuse everyone a little once again. The “Aliyev-style democracy” is developing. Even the Azeri President and the First Lady were fingerprinted at the polling station – Azerbaijan is doing its best to show the world the “exemplary” elections, with most of the opposition forces barred from participating in them. But we advise Azerbaijan not to draw other states, particularly the NKR, into this “democratic development” process so as not to make cats laugh.

T.P.

Edited December 24, 2009 by Arpa

[Arpa]

Santa Mehmet and Jingana Bells!

Soon we hear that Santa Claus was in fact a "christian" mullah, ayatollah, PAPAZ

Why do some of us pride themselves with that pejorative furkish surname of "Papazian"? Another story!

http://www.conradaskland.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/king-hearts1.png

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/europe/12/23/turkey.santa/

The Santa in 'A Cheerful Life' starts off not knowing how or why to "ho, ho, ho."

STORY HIGHLIGHTS

Turkish movie "A Cheerful Life" examines the country's place at cultural crossroads

In Turkey, Christmas symbols used for celebrating the Western new year

Street bazaars sell Santa dolls and wreaths to Muslims and Christians

ISTANBUL, Turkey (CNN) -- It may be the first modern Christmas movie ever made for audiences in Turkey, a mostly Muslim country that does not celebrate Christmas.

"Neseli Hayat" or "A Cheerful Life" is the story of a down-on-his-luck, working class Turk who is hired to work as a mall Santa.

The trouble is he doesn't really know who Santa Claus is, and needs some very basic lessons.

In one scene, a manager drills the main character, Riza and several other hired Santas on how to give Saint Nick's hearty bellow, "ho-ho-ho."

In another segment, a bearded, costumed Riza enters a waiting room and extends the traditional Muslim greeting "A salam aleyekum" to four other mall Santas, who answer back without looking up "aleyekum salam."

Video: Muslim Turks celebrate Christmas

But Riza then spends much of the film, embarrassed and hiding his job and costume at a posh Istanbul mall glittering with holiday decorations, from his wife and family in a shanty neighborhood where one would be hard pressed to find a single piece of tinsel.

The writer, director and actor who played Riza, Yilmaz Erdogan, says his character is a metaphorical bridge between two worlds in Turkey: wealthier, upper class Turks who live a "Western" lifestyle and have adopted the trappings of Christmas to celebrate the new year, and poorer Turks who have emigrated from the Anatolian heartland to the big city and are more familiar with traditionally "Middle Eastern" customs.

"Riza is the man who is in the middle of these two groups," Erdogan said.

He spoke to CNN at the Istanbul premiere of his film, which debuted in a shopping mall cinema decorated with Christmas trees and female hostesses wearing tight black dresses and Santa hats.

Erdogan agreed it was an unusual decision to focus a Turkish film on Santa Claus, which Turks often refer to as "Noel Baba" [Father Christmas].

"It is a symbol that we all love. Any person who sees him will smile," Erdogan said.

"We don't have a religious relationship with [Christmas]. We have a relationship based on a date, based on modern times. A significant group of us love this Western date and we celebrate it with the ones that we love," he added.

This month, one could easily mistake the shopping malls and commercial districts of Istanbul for any Western, Christian city. Stores and hotels are bursting with Christmas trees, lights and ornaments. Only the sound of Christmas carols is perhaps missing.

And the Yuletide pageantry is not only confined to shopping destinations of the wealthy.

Christmas kitsch is also on display in labyrinthine, working class street bazaars built in the shadow of centuries' old Ottoman minarettes. Amid stalls selling everything from middle eastern baklava sweets to hunting rifles, shopkeepers also sell animated, life-size Santa dolls and giant inflated Frosty the Snowman figures.

"Its been busy these days," said shopkeeper Saime Elkatmis, who wore a woman's Muslim headscarf as she sold plastic wreaths and glowing stars to passing customers.

"Within the last two or three years, people are a lot more interested in New Year holiday, from all the sectors of society," she added.

Next door, Tuna Alkan, a member of Istanbul's tiny Jewish community, was helping her husband Joshua sell plastic Christmas trees to mostly Muslim customers.

Alkan said Turks usually refer to the trees as "New Year's trees."

"It's a good symbol, it's a happy symbol," Alkan said. "Why wouldn't we use it?"

Part of the enthusiasm for Western holiday pageantry stems from economics. Turkish merchants have clearly embraced Christmas colors, to generate consumer excitement and help drive up sales.

"A Cheerful Life" creator Yilmaz Erdogan agrees that Santa is a symbol of capitalism.

"This is capitalism and Riza is a victim," Erdogan said. In the film, Riza resorts to working as a mall Santa after an economic crisis drives his restaurant bankrupt, and after he plunges himself and his friends in debt by falling for a pyramid scam.

But in the end, with the help of the Santa suit and some very strong Turkish family values, Riza succeeds in saving the day.

The split identity between east and west is often a source of social and political tension in Turkey. This gentle, Turkish Christmas movie shows Turks they can have a foot in both worlds and still enjoy the holidays

Edited December 24, 2009 by Arpa

[Arpa]

THERE OUGHT TO BE A LAW!!!

HO HO HO and a bottle of;

http://www.arabicliquor.com/images/full/arak_fakra.jpg

Here is santa mullah;

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_crGRwz5zKIM/Sazs8lucSII/AAAAAAAAAK0/ZPyLDCWjU3k/s320/Mullah+Nasreddin+1.bmp

Here is santa suleiman

http://www.paradoxplace.com/Insights/Topkapi/Ottoman_Images/Suleiman/Titians-Suleiman-BAR600.jpg

Here is his sleigh and reindeer;

http://www.desales.edu/assets/desales/discernment/imgs/donkey-pulling-cart.jpg

The most ironic is, Demre, formerly known Kale, formerly known as the Greek town Myra is in the region of the most favored vacation land of Yervanites -Antalya.

 

http://hetq.am/en/region/23815/

 

Turkey Seeks Return of Santa Claus’ Bones

[ 2009/12/28 | 16:09 ] region

A Turkish archaeologist has called on his government to demand that Italy return the bones of St Nicholas to their original resting place.

The 3rd Century saint – on whom Santa Claus was modeled – was buried in the modern-day town of Demre in Turkey.

But in the Middle Ages his bones were taken by Italian sailors and re-interred in the port of Bari.

The Turkish government said it was considering making a request to Rome for the return of the saint’s remains.

While Christmas is by and large not celebrated in Muslim Turkey, the Christmas figure of Santa Claus certainly is in the Mediterranean town of his birth.

He was born in what was then the Greek city of Myra in the third century, and went on to become the local bishop, with a reputation for performing miracles and secretly giving gold to the needy – on one occasion being forced to climb down a chimney to leave his donation.

After his death he was canonized as Saint Nicholas, and venerated in much of the Christian world. But when Myra was occupied by Arab forces in the 11th Century, Italian sailors came and took the saint’s bones to the port of Bari, where they remain interred to this day.

Prof. Nevzat Cevik, head of archaeological research in Demre, says Saint Nicholas had made it clear during his life that he wanted to be buried in his home town.

Even without the bones, the town of Demre has not been shy about cashing in on its most famous native son – today visitors to the Byzantine church there are greeted by a large, plastic Santa statue, complete with beard and red snow-suit.

By Jonathan Head

BBC News, Istanbul

Edited December 28, 2009 by Arpa

[Arpa]

Today is January1, 2010

Is it April 1, Fools’ Day already?

Look what those clowns http://edwardkhoo.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/donkey.png are writing.

http://en.apa.az/news.php?id=113260

http://www.today.az/news/society/58730.html

Is this true? I have not found any USPS site to corroborate it.

To refresh our memory SHUSHI was originally named SHOSH, but due to that stupid Arabic/osmanli script the letter “o/waw/و” can also be read as “ou”, just as in the Persian it is also pronounced as V/vav.

I had written about the origin of the name of SHOSH/SHUSH/SHUSHI before. I will write again since I cannot find what I had said before.

Those who can read Arabo-furkish/osmanli/farcical farsi, how do you read شوشی . Shushi/Shoshi/Shosha/Shousha?

No, no Sip. It is not “sushi”

http://http.cdnlayer.com/smoola/00/00/61/dd45652353d785f7_m.jpg

It is this Mongolian Buffet http://yeschinatour.com/static/photologue/photos/cache/whole-roast-lamb-02_leading.jpg

Edited January 1, 2010 by Arpa

[Yervant1]

 

 

 

Agos Weekly, Istanbul

Dec 31 2009

 

The long-sought document is found

 

 

Yusuf HalaçoÄ?lu is one of the people that have made the greatest

contributions to this country in recent years. As we learned from his

speech in Adana, this modest historian of ours has single-handedly

produced the database that made the signing of a protocol agreement

between Turkey and Armenia possible.

 

He relieved our official bodies by purchasing, for five hundred

dollars, 3200 documents held by Russia, and paved the way for forming

a `historical commission.' Turkey has been understandably quite

anxious about this `historical commission.' There may have been a fear

that the debates might lead to `genocide,' and that Turkish and

Armenian historians might even agree on this issue. On the other hand,

we understand that the Ottoman archives fail to prove the

non-existence of genocide. Otherwise, this dear historian would not

have to pay five hundred dollars in vain, but could instead have used

the documents at his fingertips.

 

Do not assume that the documents in question are ordinary ones.

HalaçoÄ?lu stated that they should have been destroyed after reading,

but that he kept them. Why do you think Russians kept them for all

these years? Perhaps they thought they might sell them to a true

historian one day in future. Anyway, the important thing is that we,

as the nation, ultimately have 3200 documents proving that the

genocide did not take place, but that just the opposite of that was

true.

 

By simple division, the cost of one of the documents comes to 15.6

cents. But remember that HalaçoÄ?lu made this investment during the

1990s. It was almost 15 years ago even in the median¦ Taking the

annual interest on the dollar to be five percent, it comes to 108

percent in a compound interest calculation. When we add 10 percent

profit, the current value of the 3200 documents comes to 1090 dollars.

 

Honestly, as Agos, we would feel bad if we did not give a hand to this

fine attempt. This is why we made the calculation. We suggest that we

pay 1090 dollars to HalaçoÄ?lu and print those documents in our paper

one by one. Then Armenians would gain knowledge and the state of

Turkey would gain self-confidence.

 

http://www.agos.com.tr/eng/index.php?module=news&news_id=1380&cat_id=11

[Yervant1]

Agos Weekly, Istanbul

Dec 31 2009

 

 

HalaçoÄ?lu Bought Historic Documents from Russia

 

 

Former Turkish Historical Society (TTK) President Yusuf HalaçoÄ?lu held

a speech at a conference called `1909: Armenian Barbarism in Adana,'

organized by the Adana Brotherly Culture Associations Society (Adana

KardeÅ? Kültür Dernekleri TopluluÄ?u) at the theater hall of the Adana

Metropolitan Municipality.

 

HalaçoÄ?lu claimed that in the 1990s he bought in 3200 documents from

Russia for 500 dollars in order to prove what Armenians did at that

time.

 

HalaçoÄ?lu claimed that the Turkish Republic could propose to form a

`historical commission' thanks to those documents. `If it weren't for

these documents, the creation of this committee could not be discussed

so easily. These documents should be destroyed urgently, right after

being read. But I have bought the documents in order to expose

Armenian barbarism and to show whose tricks these are,' he said.

 

http://www.agos.com.tr/eng/index.php?module=news&news_id=1382&cat_id=1

[Arpa]

Yervant, I am so glad you anticipated me.

I did not want to overburdon the thread since, it seems there are only two us reading it.

I have been wondering (not!!!)where that "master comedian" halajbokhlu has been all this time.

One wonders if he has applied to be the main comedian at SNL/Saturday Night Live?

He bought them for 29 cents, on sale down from 39cents?

Did he buy rhose "documents" at a sunflower seed/vodka stand?

So painful that (post mortem) Varouzhan's Hatsin Yerg@ was salvaged from a sunflower seed vendor in stanbull who was using them as paper cones.

Just as that tongue in cheek article at Agos says. We will pay 29,000,000,000,000 dollars to see what those so called documents say.

Edited January 4, 2010 by Arpa

[Arpa]

TWO DANCERS, ONE ROPE

(Note. I will repost this under International, just so our readers who don' take "Comedistan" seriously may also se it.Also, not to forget that master comedian "not-on-yahoo"**(he should be since he is the "yahoo-est of all yahoo-s") called the Palestinian Gaza "hamastan")

http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=13369&st=0&p=162462&hl=hamastan&fromsearch=1entry162462

WILL THE BETTER COMEDIAN PLEASE STAND UP!! :jerry:!

http://www.fotosearch.com/bigcomp.asp?path=CSK/CSK012/pr106943.jpg

One dancing the Hora,

Yeah! “Have a nargila”

"Hava Nagila" (הבה נגילה in Hebrew) is a Hebrew folk song, the title meaning "let us rejoice". It is a song of celebration …specially among the religious…

http://image.ec21.com/image/froglinda/oimg_GC00901379_CA00901380/Shisha_Water_Pipe_%252FMitsuba.jpg

http://www.bottledancers.com/welcome.html

the other the furkish Halay http://www.kardelendance.com/dances/images/halay.jpg

Is it time to celebrate, time to dance the Kochari?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jKga6ouDwI

It has been said that Two tightrope dancers cannot dance on one rope. Specially when that rope is made of fibers of lies. Which liar do you believe? When LIARS say they’re LYING? One or both of those “dancers” will eventually fall off!

ԵՐԿՈՒ ԼԱՐԱԽԱՂԱՑ ՉԻ ԿԱՐՈՂ ՄԻ ԼԱՐՈՎ ԽԱՂԱԼ

Yes, they have fooled some of us that they have been “lovers” for over a thousand years. Did anyone here believe that that “marriage” based on mutual lies will last?

Did they really believe that covering a barrel of “rotting pork” with a porous sieve would last, that the smell will not eventually permeate?

They don’t even speak the same “dialect”. One speaks semitic while the other speaks with a bastardized arabo-furkic.How does one say “I love you” in hebrew and how in furkish?

Look here and tell us how they express their “love” to one another…

How do you translate 'I love you' into Hebrew? A man to a woman would say - Ani O'hev O'Tach (אני אוהב אותך) ...

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Turkish is phonetic and simple to pronounce. ... I love you : Ben de seni severim …

A “marriage” based on lies will is doomed for a “divorce”, a nasty divorce at that.

See what one perpetrator of “genocide” is saying about the other. See what mehmet is saying about the nuclear program in Iran vis a vis to the nuclear arsenal at telaviv.

A “marriage” based on “(sweet) furkish taffy” will end in a “bitter divorce tiff(y)”.

 

Turkey recalled its Ambassador from Israel. Ankara demands apology from Israelis due to the discourteous way Turkish Ambassador was treated, BBC reports. The Ambassador was called to Ankara for consultations and may not return.

January 12, 2010 Turkish Ambassador to Israel Ahmet Oguz Celikkol met with Israeli Deputy Foreign Minister Danny Ayalon at Israeli Foreign Ministry. Turkish official was seated in a low armchair, while Ayalon was in much higher chair. Moreover, Ayalon did not give hand for a shake. At the meeting the Israeli official was tough, meanwhile Celikkol smiled politely waiting for translation and not knowing what the point was, Turkish Foreign Ministry reports. Thereafter, the Ambassador was invited to have a photo taken, however was not earlier informed of the reporters’ presence at the meeting.

The diplomatic demarche was incited by a series with Israeli intelligence spies in Valley of the Wolves, popular in Turkey. It depicts running operations to kidnap babies and convert them to Judaism, which irritated Jerusalem.

As NEWS.am reported previously, January 17, 2010 Israeli defense Minister Ehud Barak’s visit to Ankara is scheduled.

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Turkey warns Israel: patience wears thin

18:05 / 01/13/2010

Interviewed by British Guardian, Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu touched upon wide range of issues – from Cyprus to Turkish-Israeli and Turkish-Iranian relations.

“We have reached an historic moment in the negotiations. That’s one reason for coming to London now,” FM said, emphasizing London’s role as a settlement guarantor.

Despite Greek Cyprus intends to reject the package that would give two communities a quota to vote in each other’s elections, Davutoglu said that was not the end of the matter. Turkish FM underlined that EU and UN efforts are also essential, except for those by Turkey, Greece and UK -as a guarantor.

Commenting on Turkish-Iranian relations, Davutoglu underlined that his country intends to maintain friendly relations with its neighbor, saying they do not want “nuclear weapons in Iran or Israel or anywhere.” According to him, sanctions imposed against any country impact common citizens and neighboring states, thus Turkey does not want more sanctions on Iran.

Speaking of Israel, Davutoglu used sharp words, emphasizing, “When Israel follows a policy of peace, we have good relations.” He reckons that Turkey was a mediator in Syria-Israel talks before the Gaza incident, however the attack on Gaza changed “many things”. FM says that if Israel wants peace it should respect others’ rights.

**What is the meaning and origin of "yahoo"?

Main Entry: 1ya·hoo

Pronunciation: \ˈyā-(ˌ)hü, ˈyä-\

Function: noun

Inflected Form(s): plural yahoos

Date: 1726

1 capitalized : a member of a race of brutes in Swift's Gulliver's Travels who have the form and all the vices of humans

2 [influenced by 2yahoo] : a boorish, crass, or stupid person

Edited January 13, 2010 by Arpa

[Arpa]

Fifty Lashes?

Սատկած Էշ Են Մտրակում?

Whipping a dead horse?

http://nefariouslabs.r30.net/Dead%20Horse.jpg

Who knew that the Iranians would be a step ahead during these days of inflation? It is not Forty, it is Fifty for the same price!

Hey Yervant!!

Whatever happened to “forty lashes/qarsun mtraki harvats/Քառսուն Մտրակի Հարուած?

And note. Those with the caning whips are dressed in western style shirts and pants, not like mullahs in their stupid robes.

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http://news.am/en/news/12228.html

Azerbaijani rights activist to be given 50 lashes in Iran

13:16 / 01/15/2010

Zanjan city court of Iran sentenced Azerbaijani human rights activist Yasar Hakkakpur to 6 months’ conditional imprisonment as well as 50 lashes.

Hakkakpur is accused of making anti-propaganda against Iranian regime and sending materials to mass media assaulting the honor and dignity of the countries’ officials.

In 2005, the defender was also arrested by Maraga police and freed in a month. According to him, the probe against him was launched on a charge of protection of the Azeris’ rights residing in Iran, Trend News informs.

S.T.

[Yervant1]

No more forty, it's fifty now.

 

 

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[Arpa]

Yes, yes. Flagellation Inflation

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[Armat]

don't you guys love this guy?

http://news.am/en/news/azerbaijan/12303.html

Azerbaijani Embassy in Russia filed a note of protest to RF Foreign Ministry following the statement by Vice-Speaker of the RF State Duma Vladimir Zhirinovski that Moscow should recognize Nagorno-Karabakh independence.

 

Interfax reports referring to Azerbaijani Foreign Ministry press secretary Elkhan Polukhov that in his interview with Neatkarigas Rita Avize daily (Latvia), Zhirinovski called “to recognize Azerbaijani territories occupied by Armenian armed forces”,

 

“The letter voices protest against similar calls by RF Vice-Speaker and indicates non-conformity of the statements by State Duma representatives to spirit and letter of relations between our states,” Polukhov said.

 

Earlier Zhirinovski told Latvian daily that if Nagorno-Karabakh declares independence, Russia must recognize the fact. “I am neither against Armenians nor Azerbaijanis. But they will never come to terms on Nagorno-Karabakh just as Georgian will never come to terms with Abkhazians, and Arabs with Jews. Never! Kurds and Turks will never come to terms!” Zhirinovski said. According to him, Russia has for 16 years been calling for the recognition of Abkhazia, South Ossetia, Transdniestria and Nagorno-Karabakh.

 

Love it

[Arpa]

Yes! The rats are going back home.

Do you know what a “rat race” is?

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From azi news;

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Hungry rats from occupied lands destroy crops in Fizuli, Azerbaijan

Fri 15 January 2010 | 10:28 GMT Text size:

Residents of the Garakhanbeyli village of Fizuli have faced mass irruption of hungry rates migrating from the occupied lands of Nagorno Karabakh.

The wheat crops in the Yergi area are destroyed by Iranian and Asian rats.

More than 1000 local residents that used medication on 5 hectares of lands have been involved to blotting out the rats.

There is a plan to clean another 10 hectares of wheat crops.

Local residents fear that the rats may destroy wheat grown on 50 hectares of lands. One of the reasons of such an irruption was also hot weather under which multiplication among rats goes faster.**

 

The situation in Armenia and Nagorno Karabakh has reached a disastrous level when people are running away from Armenia and rats from the deserted occupied lands.

** Yes, so do other "irruption" “rates” (look at the spelling above).

[Arpa]

Divine Comedy

The furkish Messiah?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divine_Comedy

It is now being written in a new and improved furkish mumbo jumbo. Of course, we also believe that hitler and hamid ibn mehmet were also the new Hisus. I will believe what mehmet says only after I believe what Moshe says.

Even though this item may be best suited under the topic Religion/Schmiligion in general.

Watch out Rat Robertson , see who is claiming to be the Messiah.

Why not!! After all St. Paul, the main architect of Christianity was a furk from Tarsus.

Now that he has been released from prison, one wonders if a room at the nearest insane asylum/khentanots is reserved for him! He may share a room with the likes of Rat Pobertson, sometimes known as Pat Robertson who turn Christianity to a “Divine Comedy”.

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Pope gunman leaves Turkish prison

Agca's motives for shooting and wounding

the pope remain a mystery [AFP]

Mehmet Ali Agca, the man who tried to kill Pope John Paul II in 1981, has been released from a Turkish prison, nearly 30 years after the assassination attempt in St Peter's Square in Rome.

Agca waved to journalists on Monday as he left the prison in Ankara, the Turkish capital, where he had served out a separate sentence for crimes committed in Turkey.

On his release, he was reportedly taken to be assessed for compulsory military service, although a 2006 military hospital report said he was not fit to serve because of a "severe anti-social personality disorder".

"I am expecting him to be released after the military hospital check-up," said Gokay Gultekin, Agca's lawyer.

Agca's lawyers said earlier that the military authorities still considered him to be a draft dodger and required him to undergo the examination.

'Full of mistakes'

There have been long-standing questions about the 52-year-old's mental health based on his frequent outbursts and claims that he was the messiah.

Following his release from prison, Agca issued a handwritten statement through his lawyers in which he claimed the world would end "this century".

"I proclaim the end of the world. All the world will be destroyed in this century. Every human being will die in this century," he said in his statement.

"The Gospel is full of mistakes," he said, apparently referring to the Christian religious texts. "I will write the perfect Gospel."

He signed the paper as "The Christ eternal, Mehmet Ali Agca".

Agca served 19 years in an Italian prison for his attack on the pope, before being pardoned on the pontiff's initiative in 2000.

But he was extradited to serve a sentence in his home country for other crimes, including the 1979 murder of a newspaper editor.

The pope, who died in 2005, met with Agca in Italy's Rebibbia prison in 1983 and forgave him for the attack.

 

Agca's motives for shooting and wounding the pope remain a mystery.

Some people believe he was working for Soviet-era eastern European security services alarmed by the Polish pontiff's fierce opposition to communism.

In a statement issued last week, Agca said he would answer questions on the attack in the next few weeks, including whether the Soviet and Bulgarian governments were involved.

Edited January 19, 2010 by Arpa

[Louise Kiffer]

Divine Comedy

The furkish Messiah?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divine_Comedy

It is now being written in a new and improved furkish mumbo jumbo. Of course, we also believe that hitler and hamid ibn mehmet were also the new Hisus. I will believe what mehmet says only after I believe what Moshe says.

Even though this item may be best suited under the topic Religion/Schmiligion in general.

Watch out Rat Robertson , see who is claiming to be the Messiah.

Why not!! After all St. Paul, the main architect of Christianity was a furk from Tarsus.

Now that he has been released from prison, one wonders if a room at the nearest insane asylum/khentanots is reserved for him! He may share a room with the likes of Rat Pobertson, sometimes known as Pat Robertson who turn Christianity to a “Divine Comedy”.

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He has always made things up ! affabulateur in French.

[Arpa]

name='Louise Kiffer' date='20 January 2010 - 09:31 PM' timestamp='1264023118' post='266822']

Divine Comedy

The furkish Messiah?....

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He has always made things up ! affabulateur in French.

Yes, "fabulist/fabulator"**, a polite way to say "LIAR/menteur". Wonder where he learned to lie???

** In the English slang "fib" is defined as a mild/white lie, and "fibber" as liar".

The dictionary does not go that far. My opinion is that "fib" is a variation of "fable".

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Mea culpa. Here it does affirm that it is from "fable/fibble"

Main Entry: 1fib

Pronunciation: \ˈfib\

Function: noun

Etymology: perhaps by shortening & alteration from fable

Date: 1611

: a trivial or childish lie

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Origin:

1560–70; short for fibble-fable nonsense, gradational compound based on fable

 

Edited January 20, 2010 by Arpa

[Armat]

I hate Islam! I think its a cult!How can it not be? Mohammed had over 12 wives youngest 6yr old child,sex slaves on top of it.Illiterate caravan robber....list goes on and on.Leave it to desert barbarians to spread the cult by the sword.F Islam

[Ashot]

why else do you think they got so many kamikaze idiots? simple math - 60% female vs 40% male... each man gets 6 wives 10 sex slaves that's 16. lets say there is 1,000,000 people, that makes 600,000 female and 400,000 male per man gets 16 women that means 37,500 men get their needs which leaves 362,500 men from which 62,500 are impotent, bisexual, mentally ill or whatever their reason is for not being able to have a wife... that leaves us with 300,000 kamikaze idiots wondering across the planet.

[Arpa]

Who said the following? Of course it is a double entendre pun meaning a baby, a “sucker of milk” and a gullible person who may believe that popes, be they Pollocks or Armo's are gods.

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"There's a sucker born every minute" is a phrase often credited to P.T. Barnum (1810 – 1891), an American showman. It is generally taken to mean that there are (and always will be) a lot of gullible people in the world.

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Yes, yes. Flagellation Inflation

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I post this with due respects since, even I don’t give a … to popes and other dopes , I had great respect to the person of Pope John II . Note the word “closet” below. What else is in their “closets” ? Like, how many choir boys they have sodomozed eith their "poled" bigger than a baseball club, or a Polish "kielbasa"? http://www.europadeli.us/images/SausageKielbasaWiejska.jpg

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100126/wl_nm/us_vatican_johnpaul

 

Pope John Paul flagellated himself, new book says

By Philip Pullella Philip Pullella Tue Jan 26, 10:39 am ET

ROME (Reuters) – The late Pope John Paul flagellated himself regularly to emulate Christ's suffering and signed a secret document saying that would resign instead of ruling for life if he became incurably ill, a new book shows.

The book, called "Why a Saint? was written by Monsignor Slawomir Oder, the Vatican official in charge of the process that could lead to Roman Catholic sainthood for John Paul. It includes some previously unpublished documents.

John Paul, who died in 2005, was sick and suffering in several periods of his papacy. He was shot and nearly killed in 1981, he underwent several operations, including one for cancer, and suffered from Parkinson's disease for more than decade.

The book, which was published Tuesday, reveals that even when he was not ill, he inflicted pain on himself, known in Christianity as mortification, so as to feel closer to God.

"In Krakow as in the Vatican, Karol Wojtyla flagellated himself," Oder writes in the book, citing testimony from people in the late pope's close entourage while he was bishop in his native Poland and after he was elected pope in 1978.

"In his closet, among his vestments, there was hung on a clothes hanger a particular kind of belt for pants, which he used as a whip," Oder writes.

When he was bishop in Poland, he often slept on the bare floor so he could practice self-denial and asceticism, Oder writes.

Many saints of the Church, including St. Francis of Assisi, St Catherine of Siena and St. Ignatius of Loyola, practiced flagellation and asceticism as part of their spiritual life.

The book also confirmed that as his health failed, John Paul prepared a document for aides stating that he would step down instead of ruling for life if he became incurably ill or permanently impaired from carrying out his duties as pope.

He signed the document on February 15, 1989, eight years after the failed assassination attempt. The existence of the document had been the subject of many rumors and reports over the years but it has been published for the first time in full in the book.

John Paul wrote that he would resign "in the case of infirmity which is presumed incurable, long-lasting and which impedes me from sufficiently carrying out the functions of my apostolic ministry."

In the end, the pope decided to stay on until his death, saying it was for the good of the Church. Had he stepped down, he would have been the first Roman Catholic pontiff to do so willingly since 1294.

John Paul moved closer to sainthood last month when Pope Benedict approved a decree recognizing that his predecessor had lived the Christian faith heroically.

It was one of the key steps in the procedure by which the Church recognizes its saints.

The next step will be the recognition of a miracle attributed to John Paul. It involves a French nun who was inexplicably cured of Parkinson's disease after praying to him.

After the Vatican recognizes the event as a miracle, the late pope can be beatified, the last step before sainthood.

Crowds at his funeral shouted "Santo Subito!" (Make him a saint immediately!)

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Edited January 27, 2010 by Arpa