ArmoBlog Posted December 30, 2006 Report Share Posted December 30, 2006 Hi all, I did some research to find where we stand compared to our neighbors. The result: scary. Let me know if you agree with my conclusion. Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annannimusss Posted December 30, 2006 Report Share Posted December 30, 2006 ArmoBlog,I have to disagree with you.Azerbiajan has a milatary of around 60,000-70,000 not 120,000 plus.We have no need to wrooy about Turks because we have Russia who doesn't want to see a pan-turkistan. And our military has 40,000-60,000 Troops,plus another 20,000-25,000 Kharabakh troops.And no one knows how much military material they have,they keep it under raps. So I am not worried we are in a good situation at this point in time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Error 404 Posted December 30, 2006 Report Share Posted December 30, 2006 I am not sure of the accuracy of the information in this video. But if it is true then Armenia will have real powerfull and modern military equipment this year. P.S. the question is who is going to have a contorl button from these equipment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emil Posted December 31, 2006 Report Share Posted December 31, 2006 Where is the base that the fighter jets launch from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Error 404 Posted December 31, 2006 Report Share Posted December 31, 2006 (edited) I think "erebuni"airport. There are some small airports all over the country. Here is a snapshot of it. P.S. Too bad they are not stationed underground or in hangars. Pretty much voulnurable. Edited December 31, 2006 by Error 404 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mihr Posted December 31, 2006 Report Share Posted December 31, 2006 (edited) hmm are you sure we can put military data here? the turkish spies are going everywhere I think "erebuni"airport. There are some small airports all over the country. Here is a snapshot of it. P.S. Too bad they are not stationed underground or in hangars. Pretty much voulnurable. Edited December 31, 2006 by Mihr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emil Posted December 31, 2006 Report Share Posted December 31, 2006 I don't think Google Earth is top secret info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmoBlog Posted December 31, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2006 I don't think Google Earth is top secret info. What kind of a spy would come to an Armenian Forum for Google earth screenshots? I think it's fine. Anyway, we need new planes: we recently bought 10 SU-25s, which are old as hell, but Armenia paid $100,000 each, while Azerbaijan bought the newer SU-27s, but paid $15-17 million each. We're smart folks. I'm not suggesting there's going to be war, but if Azerbaijan decides to reclaim "its" lands, then that would be a plausible scenario. Obviously Russia would come to our defense, but Turkey would also help out Azerbaijan, as they have been doing for a while. But the main conclusion was that Armenia should stay very close allies with Russia. A power station here, a corporation there should do the trick! As for the numbers, I did say they could be off, because of differing numbers in different sources. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neko Posted December 31, 2006 Report Share Posted December 31, 2006 hmm are you sure we can put military data here? the turkish spies are going everywhere You are in"good" company Mihr - you think just like this Azeri general and "military expert": http://www.day.az/news/politics/62403.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mihr Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 You are in"good" company Mihr - you think just like this Azeri general and "military expert": http://www.day.az/news/politics/62403.html i didnt know this was from google earth i dont read russian sorry, and this is an azeri site.....i dont want to read this shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mihr Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 even if the azeri armed forces have more tanks , planes and people they dont have two things we have : 1) a good strategy 2) a strong will in case there is a war, the azeri will just waste their people as they used to do there is something else : we can destroy their BTC pipeline from NKR.... in case there is a war provoked by Az, the armenian army should be less kind than last time, they should go until baku and turn aliev into a useless piece of cake, and they should take more territories, so Az will pay for its stupidity and arrogance for the past years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Error 404 Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 What kind of a spy would come to an Armenian Forum for Google earth screenshots? I think it's fine. Anyway, we need new planes: we recently bought 10 SU-25s, which are old as hell, but Armenia paid $100,000 each, while Azerbaijan bought the newer SU-27s, but paid $15-17 million each. We're smart folks. I'm not suggesting there's going to be war, but if Azerbaijan decides to reclaim "its" lands, then that would be a plausible scenario. Obviously Russia would come to our defense, but Turkey would also help out Azerbaijan, as they have been doing for a while. But the main conclusion was that Armenia should stay very close allies with Russia. A power station here, a corporation there should do the trick! As for the numbers, I did say they could be off, because of differing numbers in different sources. According to video clip I posted (I don't know where the autor got the information). Armenia is going to get 24 batteries of S300, 12 Tunguskas, 14 SU32, 25 Mig-29MK's, 32 attack hellicopters Mi-38 and many more... These are state of the art military equipment. But even old mig-25's and su-27's are effective enough. The question is how qualifyed the pilots are? How many training hours they have and how experienced they are. It doesn't matter if azeris have F-22 raptors when don't have good pilots. Even with good radar coverage and enough s300 and with no military aircraft Armenia should be safe in my opinion. Because those guys (S300's) never miss the target:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nazarian Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 Well, I could count 16 military aircraft parked at Erebuni. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neko Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 (edited) i didnt know this was from google earth i dont read russian sorry, and this is an azeri site.....i dont want to read this shit Well, to summarise it, it says about the same as your shit said. For those that do want to read it, and get some amusement, just use altavista's online babelfish translation. Interestingly, many of the members of day.az's forum also found it amusing. Edited January 1, 2007 by neko Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mihr Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 "Our country must express its most decisive protest occurred and require so that from the site would be removed all photographs, which contain the information, which does damage to the national security of Azerbaijan." well, to summarise it, this is really funny neko Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mihr Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 "Interestingly, many of the members of day.az's forum also found it amusing." interestingly, i found you http://www.mmjp.or.jp/daikobo/works/char_ani/neko.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Error 404 Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 lol, hey neko are you a guy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmoBlog Posted January 1, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 According to video clip I posted (I don't know where the autor got the information). Armenia is going to get 24 batteries of S300, 12 Tunguskas, 14 SU32, 25 Mig-29MK's, 32 attack hellicopters Mi-38 and many more... These are state of the art military equipment. But even old mig-25's and su-27's are effective enough. The question is how qualifyed the pilots are? How many training hours they have and how experienced they are. It doesn't matter if azeris have F-22 raptors when don't have good pilots. Even with good radar coverage and enough s300 and with no military aircraft Armenia should be safe in my opinion. Because those guys (S300's) never miss the target:) Keep in mind, the S300s are SAMs - Surface to Air. Even if we shoot their planes down - assuming they don't take out the SAMs before anything - we are still lacking in ground force equipment, such as tanks. Again, this post was meant as a "what if" scenario. I don't know about your source, but the Mig 29s are most likely the Migs in Russia's 102nd base, under Russian control. If I had it my way, we wouldn't have any conflict and all these billions would go to better use. But I don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Error 404 Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 Keep in mind, the S300s are SAMs - Surface to Air. Even if we shoot their planes down - assuming they don't take out the SAMs before anything - we are still lacking in ground force equipment, such as tanks. Again, this post was meant as a "what if" scenario. I don't know about your source, but the Mig 29s are most likely the Migs in Russia's 102nd base, under Russian control. If I had it my way, we wouldn't have any conflict and all these billions would go to better use. But I don't. Tanks are not very sufficient in mountainous terrains either. They can get hit very easily also they can't climb the mountains. Unless you have very experienced personal. I wish there is no need for the mil. equipment either so the money could be spent for better reasons. But as you know it is absurd. Even in peace time we need strong military. By the way I was looking on google earth front lines in Karabakh. Azeri and Armenian positions. It is very detailed and amazing! You can see azeri tanks hidden in positions then minefields in front of armenian positions and hundreds of kilometers long shieldings etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nazarian Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 Tanks are not very sufficient in mountainous terrains either. They can get hit very easily also they can't climb the mountains. Unless you have very experienced personal. I wish there is no need for the mil. equipment either so the money could be spent for better reasons. But as you know it is absurd. Even in peace time we need strong military. By the way I was looking on google earth front lines in Karabakh. Azeri and Armenian positions. It is very detailed and amazing! You can see azeri tanks hidden in positions then minefields in front of armenian positions and hundreds of kilometers long shieldings etc. Coordinates, please. The most I have been able to see have been the ruins of houses in the front line. And the Baku-Jeyhan pipeline - it is a wide line through fields and such but is gradually being covered with vegetation. In a couple of years it will not be visible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Error 404 Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 Azeri equipment Latitude: 40°12'4.71"N Longitude: 47° 1'52.90"E Range: 500m Here is a snapshot: (it is not very clear but it looks like some type of military vehicles) Armenian positions (possible mine fields) Latitude: 40°10'36.75"N Longitude: 47° 2'15.73"E Range: 500m Snapshot: Once you are there just take the "Xramat" and keep going north or south through the front line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HyeFedayis Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 Armenia is the weakest in the region Russia, Iran, Turkey will crush us but Azerbaijan they are all talk what happened in 92'? Please tell me after a devastating earthquake with barely any weapons we took artsakh thats faith and pride right there and Russia will help us Russia has about 40, 000 soldiers in Armenia today protecting the borders and in 2007-8 they are going to bring another batch from Georgia to the armenian azeri border to assist the Armenians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 It depends what your "region" is. If you're talking about the Caucasus, then Armenia surely has the strongest military compared to Georgia and Azerbaijan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HyeFedayis Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 Where do you get this from? Georgia maybe but all the other countries are way more stronger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annannimusss Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 They don't have more tanks.And anyway,we only need enough to defend our postions,the Ohanian line that we have built and re-inforced many times over is unbreakable.It is like the Maginot line in World War Two exept there is no Belgium to invade from for the Azeris.Plus once they attack and we push them back,we then counter attack and fight a smart well thought out plan to Baku. And the air-defense we have is unbreakable with those anti-air missles that are the best in the world.Plus we have a bunch of missles that we can launch on any oil installation that they have to drop there suupplies and moral. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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