Turkey Will Be Split Apart As Iraq Is.

[GevorgP]

USA democrats won recent elections; because voters want to return the USA army home, reduce the budget deficit, promote industrial growth and, at the same time, ensure that US strategic interests in the Middle East are not affected.

 

Democrats are patriots of their country, therefore their primary goal is not to maintain Iraq's territorial integrity; just to accommodate Turkey's national interests at any cost to USA.

The growing instability in Iraq and collapse of USA projections on creating pro-American Iraqi government, within reasonable cost and timeframe, failed. Because America wanted do it without breaking it into three states, Kurdish Sunni and Shia; to comfort Turkey national interests.

 

This radically changed political situation, during recent years, in USA.

 

USA, using its military superiority, rapidly occupied the country and apparently it was the most easy; first part of their plan.

 

But now they are unable (mission impossible) accomplish the second part of their plan, and the end is apparent, that way USA will lose the war. Because, after occupying the country, when Americans are located inside, in large numbers, throughout Iraq, they can not use their only advantage; mass destruction weapons.

 

Meanwhile the Iraqi's have the most effective military means in that situation; the "alive weapons", suicide bombers (PS. – Christians don't have); who can not be attacked by the US mass destruction weapons, used at the start, to win Sadam. In this situation the bombardiers, helicopters artillery, tanks etc. are useless, most of time.

 

USA voter is aware that the budget surplus under Clinton's presidency, now is changed to progressively growing deficit, and the dollar; the US most effective political and military tool is gradually becoming a second grade currency.

 

This is why democrats won the elections; voters want to return the USA army home, reduce the budget deficit, promote industrial growth and, at the same time, ensure that US strategic interests in the Middle East are not affected. Democrats are patriots of their country; therefore their primary goal is not to maintain Iraq's territorial integrity; just to accommodate Turkey's national interests at any cost to USA.

 

I guess, to achieve the goals above US may act this way:

 

Support Kurds to create a loyal to US Kurdish state that will promote USA interests in the Middle East. Relocate military bases from Turkey to Kurdistan, and then return the army home. Preliminarily, of cause, ensuring that; most of the Iraqi oil reserves are controlled by Kurds.

Then expel Turkey form NATO, because USA will have several opportunities for locating military bases in the region; Kurdistan, Georgia and perhaps in the Sunni state.

 

Because in case of Kurdistan-Turkey confrontation, in this new situation, USA will be enforced to support Kurds. Therefore to justify the action above and ensure next steps, USA congress, in advance, needs to pass the bill; on the Armenian Genocide. Which, of cause, will serve as a legal and justifiable argument for the future steps.

 

Letting (not preventing) Kurds and others break it down for achieving independence and getting free from Turkey oppression. And in doing this America will enjoy, almost world wide support; because the action will help the justice to prevail.

 

Regards,

 

GevorgP

 

Congratulations!!!

 

The clock that traces Turkey's split apart process; started ticking.

Gevorg

 

 

I think Barak Obama is the very man that will carry out the policy above; to promote US interests.

 

Do you agree?

 

GevorgP

Edited March 7, 2008 by GevorgP

[GevorgP]

In current geopolitical situation, when US invasion in Iraq and subsequent astronomic military spendings couldn't be covered by occupied oil resources, the five year period resulted in absolute economic collapse for the world's superpower.

 

Now it is apparent that US strategic interests in the Middle East are crying for a "Cheaper" solution under current deadlock in Iraq; that is creating there two reliable puppet states; Kurdish and Suni, at now cost to USA, insuring that most of Iraqi oil resources are under their control and pulling out troops to stop unlimited military spending and, at the same time, obtain more reliable US allies, as opposed to Turkey.

 

Then using the exempt resources prevent economy from absolute collapse by insuring it's smooth downfall, which is most important thing currently.

 

But alas, US interests don't match with Bush ones, he now is planning to carry out most deadly and binding for US, long term program; locating super-expensive radars in Turkey.

 

This hits two targets at the same time; binding next US president (I guess Barak Obama will be next one) to cooperate with Turkey which, given current political situation, is against US interests and at the same time guarantees (wouldn't leave any other option to future American presidents) US support to Turkey for a long time after Bush "presidency". And Bush, I guess later on, will visit Turkey frequently to "listen/get" Turkish praises/prizes.

 

Note please that EU, despite of prior promises, given to Turkey, after reassessing current situation, is refusing Turkish HUG. They recognize, by learning Armenia or Kosovo historical experience, how deadly and disgusting it could be.

 

The EU members, especially Germany with 3 million Turkish population, have bitter recognition of the fact that Turks are "Masters" in assimilating/absorbing other nations, even out of Turkey, where they are minority there, FOR A WHILE, their "culture", religion and great know how in the population reproduction area, is a super-arm; able to absorb, in no time, such weak, in the "area", European states,.

 

And then "the MINORITY" will enforce to accept their type of democracy, moderated by Mullahs/Generals.

 

Now Bush ends up his "term" with faded image of American distinguished wealth and power in the world. And, if not prevented, he can attach Turkey to the American tow cable to drag them, regardless of US weakness or tiredness; waiting for China to replace the Superpower.

 

Regards,

 

GevorgP

Edited March 14, 2008 by GevorgP

[GevorgP]

In current geopolitical situation, when US invasion in Iraq and subsequent astronomic military spendings couldn't be covered by occupied oil resources, the five year period resulted in absolute economic collapse for the world's superpower.

 

Now it is apparent that US strategic interests in the Middle East are crying for a "Cheaper" solution under current deadlock in Iraq; that is creating there two reliable puppet states; Kurdish and Suni, at no cost to USA, insuring that most of Iraqi oil resources are under their control and pulling out troops to stop unlimited military spending and, at the same time, obtain more reliable US allies, as opposed to Turkey.

 

Then using the exempt resources prevent economy from absolute collapse by insuring it's smooth downfall, which is most important thing currently.

 

But alas, US interests don't match with Bush ones, he now is planning to carry out most deadly and binding for US, long term program; locating super-expensive radars in Turkey.

 

This hits two targets at the same time; binding next US president (I guess Barak Obama will be next one) to cooperate with Turkey which, given current political situation, is against US interests and at the same time guarantees (wouldn't leave any other option to future American presidents) US support to Turkey for a long time after Bush "presidency". And Bush, I guess later on, will visit Turkey frequently to "listen/get" Turkish praises/prizes.

 

Note please that EU, despite of prior promises, given to Turkey, after reassessing current situation, is refusing Turkish HUG. They recognize, by learning Armenia or Kosovo historical experience, how deadly and disgusting it could be.

 

The EU members, especially Germany with 3 million Turkish population, have bitter recognition of the fact that Turks are "Masters" in assimilating/absorbing other nations, even out of Turkey, where they are minority there, FOR A WHILE, their "culture", religion and great know how in the population reproduction area, is a super-arm; able to absorb, in no time, such weak, in the "area", European states.

 

And then "the MINORITY" will enforce to accept their type of democracy, moderated by Mullahs/Generals.

 

Now Bush ends up his "term" with faded image of American distinguished wealth and power in the world. And, if not prevented, he can attach Turkey to the American tow cable to drag them, regardless of US weakness or tiredness; waiting for China to replace the Superpower.

 

Regards,

 

GevorgP

It doesn’t allow to edit more than 2 times. I replaced the word now in the 5-th line with no.

 

Edited March 14, 2008 by GevorgP

[GevorgP]

Quote from Bill Clinton's Speech to Turkish press;

'Hillary is the best for Turkey'

The former US president Bill Clinton, who is actively involved in his wife's presidency campaign stated: "Turks support us a lot."

 

"Turkey is a very significant country for us. We need to have good relations with Turkey. The biggest contribution to this will come from Hillary. There will be great progress in relations if Hillary is elected president."

End of the Quote

 

GeorgP's answer;

 

And the worst for America because of the following:

In current geopolitical situation, when US invasion in Iraq and subsequent astronomic military spendings couldn't be covered by occupied oil resources, the five year period resulted in absolute economic collapse for the world's superpower.

 

Now it is apparent that US strategic interests in the Middle East are crying for a "Cheaper" solution under current deadlock in Iraq; that is creating there two reliable puppet states; Kurdish and Suni, at no cost to USA, insuring that most of Iraqi oil resources are under their control and pulling out troops to stop unlimited military spending and, at the same time, obtain more reliable US allies, as opposed to Turkey.

 

Then using the exempt resources prevent economy from absolute collapse by insuring it's smooth downfall, which is most important thing currently.

 

But alas, US interests don't match with Bush ones, he now is planning to carry out most deadly and binding for US, long term program; locating super-expensive radars in Turkey.

 

This hits two targets at the same time; binding next US president (I guess Barak Obama will be next one) to cooperate with Turkey which, given current political situation, is against US interests and at the same time guarantees (wouldn't leave any other option to future American presidents) US support to Turkey for a long time after Bush "presidency". And Bush, I guess later on, will visit Turkey frequently to "listen/get" Turkish praises/prizes.

 

Note please that EU, despite of prior promises, given to Turkey, after reassessing current situation, is refusing Turkish HUG. They recognize, by learning Armenia or Kosovo historical experience, how deadly and disgusting it could be.

 

The EU members, especially Germany with 3 million Turkish population, have bitter recognition of the fact that Turks are "Masters" in assimilating/absorbing other nations, even out of Turkey, where they are minority there, FOR A WHILE, their "culture", religion and great know how in the population reproduction area, is a super-arm; able to absorb, in no time, such weak, in the "area", European states.

 

And then "the MINORITY" will enforce to accept their type of democracy, moderated by Mullahs/Generals.

 

Now Bush ends up his "term" with faded image of American distinguished wealth and power in the world. And, if not prevented, he can attach Turkey to the American tow cable to drag them, regardless of US weakness or tiredness; waiting for China to replace the Superpower.

 

Regards,

 

GevorgP

Edited March 21, 2008 by GevorgP

[Arpa]

Quote from Bill Clinton's Speech to Turkish press;

'Hillary is the best for Turkey'

The former US president Bill Clinton, who is actively involved in his wife's presidency campaign stated: "Turks support us a lot."[/size

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Could it be that when Billy was in Ankara he was treated to "furkish delight" ala Esther** (Monica)Lewin-sick-y?

According to the latest Hillary was in the building when Monica was offering her "furkish delight".

Read. Don't ! That disgusting chapter (Esther) in that disgusting BOOK to understand what I mean. One can only wish that people would stop reAding that DISGUSTING BOOK.

Edited March 21, 2008 by Arpa

[GevorgP]

Soon Turkey will suffer a full diplomatic crash.

Do you agree?

[Yervant1]

Soon Turkey will suffer a full diplomatic crash.

Do you agree?

Don't count your chickens before they hatch.

[Ashot]

Yervant jan, what if you need a rough estimate? then you can count the eggs, give the approximate value, then once they hatch you can subtract the ones that don't hatch, which is highly unlikely unless you keep the chicken away from the eggs...

 

Now that said, yes I do too strongly believe that the Turkish politics is coming to the beginning of it's crash!

[Yervant1]

Ashot Jan I would have agreed with you if it was a new situation, but since we've been there so many times before so it's wiser to wait and see.

[GevorgP]

Ashot Jan I would have agreed with you if it was a new situation, but since we've been there so many times before so it's wiser to wait and see.

 

Dear Yervand,

 

Waiting until things happen is not the most wise thing to do. Instead you may do predictions taking into account current geopolitical facts and your analysis. And if one will succeed; he/she would be in fact wise.

 

Regards Gevorg

Edited March 17, 2009 by GevorgP

[Yervant1]

Dear Yervand,

 

Waiting until things happen is not the most wise thing to do. Instead you may do predictions taking into account current geopolitical facts and your analysis. And if one will succeed; he/she would be in fact wise.

 

Regards Gevorg

Making bold predictions are not any better! Remember how many times we've been there with confidence. Wait and see does not mean sit on your ass and do nothing but work hard and try to achieve your goal and don't celebrate prematurely and make the opposition work harder and defeat you.

[MosJan]

no one likes premature celebrations

[GevorgP]

Making bold predictions are not any better! Remember how many times we've been there with confidence. Wait and see does not mean sit on your ass and do nothing but work hard and try to achieve your goal and don't celebrate prematurely and make the opposition work harder and defeat you.

 

I hope one day we'll become mature. But until the time we have to communicate, bring arguments to prove that; the things we say are reasonable. And the time will come sooner; by convincing the other people, governments, etc., that it is the right thing to do.

 

Regards George

Edited March 18, 2009 by GevorgP