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Did you this on Groong, where an idiot wrote the name of like that ho... “kar-DASH-ian"? 　 　

Ancient languages reconstructed by computer program I post this here under the category of Culture since it encompasses a variety of disciplines like language, history, archeology, science, technology et al , to not forget POLITICS. ===== Is this Urartuan Cuneiform? The caption says Assyrian. http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/65842000/jpg/_65842877_c0095621-cuneiform_inscription-spl.jpg Urartian Cuneifom; http://www.tourismturkeysite.com/img/regions-east/vanmus.gif See the rest here. Note that the A word is not anywhere to find. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-21427896 The work is published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Science. ===== Another OH YEAH!! moment. Once again note that the A word is totally absent in the list of Indo-European languages.. ===== English language 'originated in Turkey' Why are most European languages are known as Indo-European, not furko-European? Does the queen speak furkish? How about Shakespeare? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-19368988 　

THE PATRIARCH POPE IS OLD Once in 600 years the Pope is resigning.. http://news.yahoo.com/benedict-conservative-whose-papacy-dogged-scandal-143749546.html I can’t find it now, nor do I remember who had written it. A long time ago I read an article that dealt with the condition of the Patriarch. The Patriarch was old, perhaps with Alzheimer or a cerebral stroke. He could not speak coherently, he blabbered and slurred. Yet he could not be replaced, since according to the Church Canon a Patriarch will only be replaced after his last breath, even if it may be sustained by artificial means. Remember Patriarch Torgom of Jerusalem who was disabled for over a year, yet a new Patriarch would not be elected until He was pronounced medically dead. Consider also the case of the Patriarch of Bolis, Mutafian. I don’t know the nature of his illness and disability. Is it medical or political? But as long as he is still breathing on his own there cannot be an election for a replacement, only a Locum Tenens, a Teghapah, keeper of the place.

See above how that stupid, pesky spell check changed my barekendan to brakeman. Yes Shahan, please tell us about Armenian Spell check.

Accoeding to the Armenian Church calendar, today Feb. 10, 2013 is Boun Brakeman, translated to Great Brakeman . Does this mean that there are other lesser barekendans?** Above post # we spoke about the connection of the word to the French Mardi Gras/ Fat Tuesday. To repeat, to me the interpretation of “ bari yev kendani” makes no sense. ** Es or Ourbath e Pas e. http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=39494#entry292321 Here we see all about Pahq/Pas. http://www.armenianreligion.am/am/Encyclopedia_pahq Here we see about Friday (and Wednesday?)observance of lesser lent. http://www.qahana.am/markup/?ln=am&page=spiritual_library_item&id=470 Above we also saw Toumanin’s delightful fable in the English. Here is the original Armenian. http://armenianhouse.org/tumanyan/tales-am/barekendan.html http://allarmenianbooks.com/books/samples/Nazar%20The%20Brave%20arm/files/assets/seo/page5_images/0001.jpg This year Mardi Gras falls one next Tuesday Feb 12. Carnival is another name for the feast which literally means “meat day”.Is that why in New Orleans some girls expose their “meat”? AMOT!! http://armenianhouse.org/tumanyan/tales-am/barekendan.html PS. Poon Paregentan http://www.thearmeniankitchen.com/2010/02/poon-paregentan.html

Yes dear extra, we love it too? Do you read Armenian? Can you write in Armenian? Try it sometime and see what you get. Does it look like #$%^&*(^%$#%&&**? Էսպէս երեւի

Amish Beard? Do Amish women grow beards? Don't tell us where! http://news.yahoo.com/ohio-amish-beard-cutting-ringleader-gets-15-years-183805098.html ==== Amish beard; http://25.media.tumb...alacuo1_400.jpg Are these Amish? http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_QUSvbxrADx4/SqSG7WySXpI/AAAAAAAAB9Q/kwF9glnvn68/s200/37024583waitingforthebrooklynferry.jpg Or is it this- Mutafian? http://www.armenews.com/IMG/arton73030-300x216.jpg 　 　

That tradition has been virtually forgotten ever since the advent of infant vaccinations. http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/vaccines/MY01013 The infant usually inherits immunity in -utero from the mother, as Yervant points out above. It had been observed that the innate immunity fades away at about 40 days or so, even though mother’s milk may prolong it. It had been observed that infant mortality is prevalent after the original 40? days. Another topic?That is the reason for infant baptism, that it has to be done before the 40th day Qarasunq. Many orthodox churches still try to observe it, even if of late it is generally disregarded. Food for thought. Is infant baptism still relevant? Many non-orthodox denomination baptize at a pre-adult (age 13)**, or adult age, i.e. When the recipient understands the spirit of the practice. Brings to mind the joke of people attending church only three times in their lifetime. The first at baptism when they had no idea, the second at their wedding when they couldn’t care less, and lastly at their funeral….when they …. ** Off topic? Maybe. See why some people hold their bar initiation(mitzvah) at that age, even if their infant circumcision may be similar and the model of the Christian baptism. Consider the Armenian word mkrtutyun, which basically means mkrtel/mktatel to cut with a scissors/mkrat.

See #s 9, 10 and on here; http://hyeforum.com/...opic=22833&st=0 Of course, above our friend is confused at the word "first", which according to legend, the first opus the first book the Mashtotsians translated was the Bible, startng with the verse- "In the beginning was the 'word'..."

Dear Polish Girl, have you noticed that you are preaching to the wrong "conregation" here, so t o speak. By now you may have noticed the majority here have no idea what the Bible is and what it says, many here have not even opened the firs page. To most, that dusty old relic is in their grandmother's dusty old closet, to never be disturbed, lest they see messages counter to their myhthical ideas. Like when one of our friends here said that the Armenians were the First to translate the Bible.

Not to forget this highly hateful, xenophobic and ignorant idle gobble gobble. http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=7028&st=0 http://hyeforum.com/...220#entry248406

　 If you are both Protestants then you must know these passages from the Bible, which is what you are doing. i.e kicking against the needle. Acts.9 [5] And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks. Acts.26 [14] And when we were all fallen to the earth, I heard a voice speaking unto me, and saying in the Hebrew tongue, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? it is hard for thee to kick against And, as to a (Catholic)Pole and an Apostolic Armenian being Protestant may be the ultimate oxymoron. Please don’t take the above phrase to heart, as I being of that persuasion myself have been derided by kin and foreigners alike, yet, have you guessed how and why I know so much about the Bible? Which so called Apostolics here , the “First Christians” (don't) know the Bible as I and you do? Yes, yes I know they know the proper way of how to cross their faces and light (pagan) candles. I don’t. Some Armenians call them “porot/borot” (porot-estan) which also means leper. Search the Forum and see references to “porot/borot”. See # 164 here where Raffi was named so. http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=22833&st=160#entry288392 PS> This is not to say that some Protestant Armenians are any less hypocritical liars and opportunistic.. I DON’T LIE. Take my word for it. . Yes I do. “white lies“. “jester:

　 Its been a long time since we have had semi-serious discussions here. Let’s see if we can re-inject some life into this forum which has been in a deep coma of late. Get away from dolma, basturma and other such garbage furkish talk. See if we have matured more since this thread began. Many of the participants are still here, some, who may have been in their teens at the rime would be in their mid-twenties or older, perhaps even married in their turn.. Let us see if things have changed since. When Harut initiated this innocent topic** he was talking about the Teacher Apple tradition, but it proceeded and wandered away. Those who cannot read and understand the Armenian posts, most of them are sometime silly jokes and anecdotes. There also are some serious comments as well. Getting back to the origin of the Apple*** and social mores , see where it originates; http://www.logodesig...-apple-logo.jpg http://upload.wikime...Art_Project.jpg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_and_Eve ** Teacher apple tradition. Some say that at one time, just as now teachers were compensated so poorly, so the equally poor farmers’ only gift would be not money but the FRUIT of their labor. ***Some Armenians insist that Eve presented Adam the Fig., and in turn Adam presented her a banana (adamatuz) Literally “adam‘s fig“.***. I will not go into the graphic details. Use your imagination, observe the picture of an overripe fig from the bottom.. In the Armenian language “fig/tuz” is a euphemism for the female organ. Amot!!. *** See #s 65 and 66 here . http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=18907&st=60 http://us.cdn3.123rf.com/168nwm/jimdeli/jimdeli0910/jimdeli091000315/5774689-higos.jpg http://askville.amazon.com/relation-apple-school/AnswerViewer.do?requestId=60956326

And as we are talking about it, see where the tradition came from; http://www.logodesig...-apple-logo.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8f/Lucas_Cranach_the_Elder_-_Adam_und_Eva_im_Paradies_%28S%C3%BCndenfall%29_-_Google_Art_Project.jpg

Since it came to the subject above, let us revisit this thread; http://hyeforum.com/...5&hl=apple&st=0

Dear Polish girl, we love you. Have you searched to see that he does not have a wife and children back in Yerevan? There are many such stories. I mean STORIES.

Yes Yervant . The opening of flights seems to be imminent. Here is more gobble gobble, turky droppings. Although I have a dim view of Panorama in general, take it the way you will, with a large grain of salt?. What we read below is tantamount of boku trying to remove that big foot from big mouth. Who is slapping that big mouth? Is it because there may be hundreds of flights of furkish and asszeri planes flying over the ant-aircraft territory of Armenia? ====　 ==== 　

Movses, du inchou tevakan furkeren es khosum? Mithe "hal" @ Hayeren barr e? Khorqin da arabo-furkeren barr e. Johannes@ vka.

I just heard a blurb on CNN that the Christians of Syria are siding with Bashar al Assad. I don't know the details, but it is obvious that , when those turko-saudi-islamist so called opposition takes over and have their way, you can kiss goodbye to the Christian/Armenian enclaves of Aleppo et al.

Send him back ro wherever the hell he came from. He will not make a good husband for you. Armenian boys are spoiled rotten specially the first born ones. Their mothers treat them as royalty, in fact they are nicknamed “prince” by that furkish word. Remember our one time friend Sako p****? As to household chores, they are not encouraged, in fact mothers would tell them not to do girly stuff, they woud say “your thing will fall off”. In general Armenian boys don’t intend to marry foreign/European girls except for ulterior motives, i.e to obtain citizenship etc. to them European girls are just temporary disposable toys and playmates.. Once again, Send him packing to his mother or wherever the hell he came from. Although there are many happily married mixed couples, but as a rule those are exceptions. Foeign /odar brides will never be accepted into the TRIBE. Even after years, when she becomes a mother, grandmother she will always be introduced - “ This is my wife Laura, whatever-ian she is Irish, Italian… etc“..** The picture has two faces. Often many foreign brides will never become wholly a part of the TRIBE. Even after years of marriage, during or when the marriage ends for whatever reason, they will still stick to their ethno-religio-denominational origin. **We have spoken about this phenomenon in length here. This is not exactly what I had in mind, but it will do for now; http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=10457&st=0

First off. Dear Arat , welcome. It all depends on the spelling. Yes, you are more confused then me. When will be the day when someone will de-confuse us all? At first it may seem to be a diminution of Ararat It may even be in reference to the River Arax/ Araz,. In the Arabic araz is spelled as araDH/araZ. In the Armenian “arar/arad/arat” has many meanings. You be the judge. Hopefully it does not mean a blemish, a black mark in one’s fame. !. A blemish as in a blemish in one’s fame or a blemish in one’s face. 2.It also means plenty. Remember the song Araz, Araz ***hey jan Araz. “Ararartian dasht em gnoum, ARAT arter **indz en mnoum…” **Fields of plenty are waiting for me.. *** Is it From the Arabic ardh/field, as in “ardh el rum//erzurum/karin?

PS. Rumor is that the authorities knew of the plan, and they were prepared. How did they know? Which spy (Armenian?) betrayed and passed the secret?

Who invented Suicide Bombings? BANK OTTOMAN http://www.fedayi.com/arfsongs/songs/papken_suniyi_hishadagin.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1896_Ottoman_Bank_Takeover ===== http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Papken+suni == http://news.yahoo.com/police-suicide-bombing-us-embassy-2-dead-120006594.html ---- 　

In contrast to the above by Ashot, here is what the Hanragitaran (1982?)says in a very short monograph (1/8th of a page). ----- NZHDEH, Garegin , b. 1888, Kznut, Nakhjavan- d. 1955. Dahnak military activist. In May 1920 he suppressed the armed uprising of the workers’ in Zangezur. During July-August , to stop the furkish advance on Zambezi , he fights against the Red Army which had entered Znagezur, Nakhjava and Artsakh** . He was the main organizer of the Dashnak uprising in the so called Mountainous Armenia (Zangesur ,Siunik and Artsakh)). After the liberation(by the reds) of Zangesur he fled the country in 1921. In his self imposed exile he continued his anti Soviet struggle. During WWII he collaborated with Fascist Germany, whereby in 1942 in Berlin he was a member of the So called “Armenian National Assembly”. In 1944 he was arrested in Bulgaria and delivered to the soviet court of justice. ---- **This passage does not make sense. PS.Funny,not really. I noticed that that pesky spellchecker had changed "Garegin" to "garaging".

To refresh our memory, let us again read this. Thank you Ashot; http://hyeforum.com/...18154&hl=nzhdeh Next I will write what the Hanragitaran has to say. Not very complimentary.