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Ouremn da im mankutyan "aghpanots"- n e.? Mer yev Bustan B*sh*a- i mijev kar or bazhanvel er miayn Quaiq arouakov. Meshtel/nursey/manka/tsila/tsilaran/mankapartez, yerkragortsagan hamalsaran, vortegh ousanogner@ sovoreyin inchbes mshakel yev veramshakel hoghe@ . Menq ayteghen jour eyinq bartsoum qany nrants ardiakan mekenayakan khor horer@ tstsetsin yev choratsretsim mer giughi tsantsagh horer@. Qani nranq tsats hovtin eyin isk menq leran barstounqi lanjin. Yev aysor menq ariun qrtinq enq tapoum Hayastan@ vera-tsnatselou. Yerb tegatsiner@ kotroum en amen mi tsar. See all the articles about, a futile attemp - ATP-Armenia Tree Ptoject. Wher the natives are saying "stick yourz tree where it belongs. Just send us more Dollars so we can buy more emigration visas.

Hovan, Asdurian Hivandanots@ vortegh eh? Prtptum@ aseh Sheikh Taha. Sa vortegh e? Mithe sa Asatur Altounian- i anouamb eh kochouel? Yes gitem Sheikh Maksoud@ vortegh eh. Yes ayntegh em metsatsel.

Holy Batman!!!** Who bought this Batmobile? Sip, Azat or Movses? How many Drams is $4.2 M? http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/2012/11/30/AP36948651105_620x350.jpg ==== "Holy windfall, Batman!" The Batmobile just sold for $4.2 million. The original 19-foot-long black, bubble-topped car used in the 1960s "Batman" TV show sold at auction Saturday ==== **Of course we know Batman is furkish; See # 58 here; http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=17935&st=40

I did not search far enough to see if the following Video - Hidden Armenians - had already been aired before. http://asbarez.com/101940/watch-hidden-armenians/ In the video we see the likes of Patriarch Shnohrk and Mutafian of stambol , but fails to tell us what the Champions of the First Christian Nation, the Missionaries of Ejmiatsin and Antelias have to say ..

Thank you Yervant. I had already noticed that she pronounces "bagh" as from the furkish bag/bak.

Even if this belongs in HUMOR. Nevertheless. See about Armnian Chstmas Recipes here; http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=17169&hl=recipes

Long time no see. Let us revisit some old topics and see if we can revive some lively topics. Above I said that the song is known as Yerevan Bagh Em Arel in Armenian, also known as Sari Aghchik. See the words at #8 above. Since then I found another interpretation, this time by someone from Moush ** who sings in several languages including Armenian. Except that she uses the furkish title instead of the Armenian- Sari Aghchik. Listen at 23:50 **I could not catch her name since as usual the commentator speaks as if he needs to run to the bathroom fast. http://asbarez.com/101940/watch-hidden-armenians/ Rhe above video about the Hidden Armenians deserves to be aired under another relevant topic.

Yervant Please tell us, if you know which Armenian Hospital was hit. Look here; http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=18748&st=120#entry301082

ALTOUNIAN HOSPITAL Dr. Asatur Altounian;** Yes. He was protestant just as Dr. Jebejian. Also not to forget the Maternity Hospital of Dr. Kassis-ian. http://www.flickr.com/photos/agbu/2414613072/ The Altounian hospital In Aleppo, in Azizieh, not too far from the Hotel Baron, In latter years it was virtually attached to the Emmanuel Church. Where many an Armenian girl was trained as nurses, some of which I have personally known.*** Dr. Asarur was married to an English lady and had 3 children, 2 girls (I remember Brigit, not the other) and a boy Dr. Ernest, an accomplished surgeon in his own right. He was half Armenian, and preferred to be called by his British army rank as Colonel (krnl) .He spoke very little Armenian but more so furkish. I can’t find a better more modern picture of the hospital.. http://www.syrianhistory.com/en/photos/2949 Gulbenkian hospital. Is this what in our times we called the Mayranots in Nor Giugh? My younger brother was born there. Not me, I was born at home in Nor Giugh, probably assisted by Armenouhi the midwife., before the Mayranots was constructed.. Does this date me ? I am not ashamed. http://armenpress.am/static/news/b/2012/10/696917.jpg To not forget the ophthalmology clinic of RIP Dr. Robert Jebejian where the first corneal transplant was performed by my second uncle/cousin Dr. Artin Ingilizian. See him and his father Avedis in the book The Lions of Marash, pg. 172 His mother Esther was my father’s first aunt., and I have personally seen them both The best known of Dr. Asatur is his quarter Armenian grandson, the internationally known scientist Dr. Roger. He came to Aleppo to take over the hospital but decided to go back and pursue his research. As we see below , he himself was an asthmatic, hence his interest and research in the Egyptian Khellin and Cromolyn. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Altounyan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cromoglicic_acid http://www.google.com/search?q=altounian+hospital+aleppo&start=10&hl=en&sa=N&tbo=u&rlz=1W1RNTN_en&tbm=isch&source=univ&ei=LCP4UOjIDI7W0gGK74GoBw&ved=0CFcQsAQ4Cg&biw=1052&bih=443 **It is rumored that Dr. Asatur during his medical training he would exhume corpses and learn his knowledge of anatomy. *** I can cry, I can never forget the time when Aram.s ; (his real name) better kidney was removed and he became a permanent resident patient and a lover of all the nurses.

The Food Wars continue, only this time they get hotter by the day. The adage goes- If you can’t stand the heat get out of t he kitchen- Maybe we should heed to the above advice and stop making bigger fools of ourselves, like some fools think they can fool ourselves and the world saying that those furkish names are from the Urartuan. Wait till they get a hold of those so called Armenian cook book where the names are not from furksky to russky, and turns us to minced meat/khiyma/ghiyma/mssaghats. You don’t believe me ? Look here and tell us how many Armenian words/names you see; http://www.thegutsygourmet.net/kheyma.html http://www.thegutsygourmet.net/armenian.html ====== http://www.eurasianet.org/node/66412 　 　 Speaking of fools look what these clowns did. Click on ABOUT to HISTORY http://www.akmakbakeries.com/about.html Here we spoke how the word akmak/akhmakh is from the Arabic ahhmaq to mean stupid. http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=1629#entry250140 　 　

When will we close the gap between Nakhjavan and Ijevan??? Nakh- ijevan is a stupid interpretaion. ==== Just like that stupid joke about naming Yerevan when that idiot noah yelled YEREVAAAATS!!!. Yeah right, when his vartik/vorik yerevats. A joke to much of my disgust was publicly told by HH Garegin I.** In addition to his nasreddin jokes. I should have killed Him then. WHAT AN IDIOT of a Catholicos??? **I have personally heard those idiotic jokes and vomitted

Do you see the background image where the map of asserbokhjan is depicted, where Nakhjavan is also shown, detached and removed from bokhu by a thousand mile? Is Nakhjavan a suburb of ankakra or bokhu? When will we close the gap between Nakhjavan and Ijevan??? Nakh- ijevan is a stupid interpretaion.

Thank you HD for the excellent article by : Mary Allerton Kilbourne Matossian I cannot find her biography and credentials to see who or what she is, except a list of her works. Who is the author of this extensive article? You? http://radiotransmittinginasnowstorm.blogspot.com/2013/01/to-perceive-words-of-underst.html She invokes the name of that imposter Haroutiun Khachatryan. See # 35 here to know who that imposter Haroutiun Khatchatryan is. As a rule, he professing to be a plitical analyst has no business in linguistics. Political indeed!! http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=10100&st=20 　 PS. Please do not be discouraged as this my reply will probably be the one and only. Illiterate? His father is ILLITERATE.

When did this Forum become the private property of and a dialogue /monologue between me and Yervant, both Diasporans? To not mention the fact that at times it becomes a Furk Forum with dolma, basturma.and kyabab. Where are our Yerevanites: Of course we know . In their comfortable sofas in Boston and Pasadena they tell us that their favorite poem is Hayastan Aselis, Do they mean Glendale Aselis? And their favorite song is Trcheyi Mtkov Toun. How about Trcheyi Marmnov Toun? Who invented the word - HYPOCRISY ? Whatever happened to the days when we would talk about Abeghian, Abovisn, Toumanian and and Varouzhan?

CHURCH of SANTA CLAUS? Archeology or anarcheology?　 Thank you Yervant for this; http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=47674#entry300918 　 When the big cat is away, the big rats will play. Church of Santa Claus/ St. Nicholas http://www.sacred-destinations.com/turkey/images/kale/resized/kale-church-of-st-nicholas-inside-c-andrys.jpg http://www.sacred-destinations.com/turkey/images/kale/resized/kale-church-of-st-nicholas-inside-c-andrys.jpg St. Nicholas the Christian furkish Bishop? http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/62/Nikola_from_1294.jpg/242px-Nikola_from_1294.jpg http://www.sacred-destinations.com/turkey/kale-church-of-st-nicholas-myra.htm 　 We are keenly aware of Antalya as it has become the prime vacation site of the Yerevanites. ----- Demre is a town and its surrounding district in the Antalya Province on the Mediterranean coast of Turkey, named after the river Demre.[1] ------ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demre http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&sugexp=les;&gs_rn=1&gs_ri=serp&pq=demre&cp=6&gs_id=4&xhr=t&rlz=1W1RNTN_en&biw=1045&bih=443&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&wrapid=tlif135817456712210&q=demre+turkey&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=0x14c1f2125d67bfbd:0xda7c5f586d1b7586,Demre,+Turkey&gl=us&sa=X&ei=cxn0UPL0CpTE0AHwt4DoCQ&sqi=2&ved=0CJUBELYD ----- Demre is a town and its surrounding district in the Antalya Province on the Mediterranean coast of Turkey, named after the river Demre.[1] Demre is the Lycian town of Myra, the home of Saint Nicholas of Myra, the historical man later developed into the figure of Santa Claus. The district was known as Kale until it was renamed in 2005. A substantial Christian community of Greeks lived in Demre (Myra) until the 1920s when they were forced to migrate to Greece after the Population exchange between Greece and Turkey.[2] ----- sorry. This seems to be furkish site. It is against my religion to air their garbage. http://lurer.com/?p=67178&l=en ======= In the fourth century A.D., a bishop named Nicholas transformed the city of Myra, on the Mediterranean coast of what is now Turkey, into a Christian capital. Nicholas was later canonized, becoming the St. Nicholas of Christmas fame. Myra had a much unhappier fate. After some 800 years as an important pilgrimage site in the Byzantine Empire it vanished — buried under 18 feet of mud from the rampaging Myros River. All that remained was the Church of St. Nicholas, parts of a Roman amphitheater and tombs cut into the rocky hills. But now, 700 years later, Myra is reappearing. Archaeologists first detected the ancient city in 2009 using ground-penetrating radar that revealed anomalies whose shape and size suggested walls and buildings. Over the next two years they excavated a small, stunning 13th-century chapel sealed in an uncanny state of preservation. Carved out of one wall is a cross that, when sunlit, beams its shape onto the altar. Inside is a vibrant fresco that is highly unusual for Turkey. The chapel’s structural integrity suggests that Myra may be largely intact underground. “This means we can find the original city, like Pompeii,” said Nevzat Cevik, an archaeologist at Akdeniz University who is director of the excavations at Myra, beneath the modern town of Demre. The chapel is part of a larger dig that includes the Roman amphitheater — largely reconstructed in the second century after an earthquake leveled much of Lycia — and Andriake, Myra’s harbor, about three miles south. Long a major Mediterranean port, Andriake was where St. Paul changed ships on his way to Antioch (now Antakya). Finds there include a workshop that produced royal purple and blue dye from murex snails and a fifth-century synagogue, the first archaeological evidence of Jewish life in Christian Lycia. Much of Myra is under modern buildings in Demre, so archaeologists are unsure where they will dig next. They are buying property from local residents to prevent illegal excavations, though judging from the paucity of artifacts found so far, looters might be disappointed: the last residents of Myra seem to have looked at the rising floodwaters and packed their bags before they left. ==== See #43 here; http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=10772&st=40 ===== Sang to the tune above. ---- Here is another Kaghand song. Partially reconstructed. Remember that sometimes we call him Hayr Barsegh, Father Basil. Also note St. Nick and nick-nick. (Papik, mamik u poqrik, Nstats nerqev pukheriq, Husan tesnel Hayr nick-nick.) Ha, ha, ha ov chuzer? Ha, ha, ha yelnel ver? Tesnelu Hayr Barsegh nick-nick Tskhanen var galu gaghtniq. ====

OLIVE TREES GROW AGAIN I was reading these ‘ http://www.amazon.com/Skylark-Farm-Vintage-Antonia-Arslan/dp/1400095670/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1358107250&sr=8-1&keywords=antonia+arslan#reader_1400095670 Olive press http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=18557 When I remembered that I have a book written by Mary H. a distant relative of mine. Written in Fresno 1976 The book is replete with the history, culture and the social life of the then (1990?) Marash. Narratives and biographies about family, friends and relatives,** she gets to the fact that her family owned extensive tracts of farms and orchards, among which an OLIVE GROVE.. The title of the book; OLIVE TREES GROW AGAIN Is a paraphrase from what Uncle Vartan had said. “That spring was particularly wet and rainy. Good news. After all that wetness and mud, uncle Vaeran and the boys went to the fields. They came back. This time the habitual garrulous and jovial Uncle Vartan was quiet and morose. He went directly to his upper chamber and shut the door. After much urging and cajoling he would only say- OLIVE TREES GROW AGAIN. His sadness and moroseness was, when they returned to the groves, someone/ some ones had vandalized/chopped down the trees to the ground. All he could say- “Olive Trees Grow Again”. And so they did….. **BTW. I am intimately familiar with many of the names. Speaking of relatives she tells an entertaining incident where one of f her Cousins Rachel ( a rebel in her own right) a teacher and an upright protestant had been seen sipping wine and dancing at a gathering, The church summoned her for a hearing and excommunicated her, which was eventually rescinded after a period of repentance.

THE GREAT WAILING WALL The wall for alioghlu to wail at. Also look here; http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=14660&hl=wall Two models for him. The Great Wall, China http://www.eaglescry.com/ChinaWall_1.jpg The Wailing Wall http://www.travel-images.com/pht/israel103.jpg Face the wall-punishment; http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_j0bNMVrDde4/TIcRy_eBgFI/AAAAAAAAAqs/hVLhhmugtVA/s1600/face+the+wall.jpg Against the wall; http://images.clipartof.com/small/439537-Royalty-Free-RF-Clip-Art-Illustration-Of-A-Cartoon-Anxious-Businessman-Up-Against-A-Wall.jpg http://www.picturesof.net/_images_300/A_Colorful_Cartoon_Man_Pushing_Against_a_Brick_Wall_Royalty_Free_Clipart_Picture_101124-158134-349053.jpg 　 　

MADE IN ARMENIA? Who says? How do we know? Here I will not speak about dolma and basturma and other furkish dol-kaka.. http://www.flowers2moscow.com/store/images/product/ararat.jpg http://www.infobarre...image/31341.png What does X stand for? GH or KH? Which is it? In the Russian it is spelled AXTAMAP. Is it (h)AGHT- Amar or AKH -Tamar? BTW. AGHTHamar is spelled AGHthamar , not AKHthamar/AKH Tamar.** ===== http://hetq.am/eng/news/22111/samvel-karapetyan-armenian-producers-seem-to-prefer-russian/english-labels.html I wish the audio were better. At times he whispers as if talking about state secrets. Aside from the labeling fiasco, pay special attention where he says that the entire Armenian army bathes using soap made in furkey. See video at 23;02 and on.. -Sev@ sabonn inch aneh, khev@ khrad@ ? Why can’t they use Ghar Sabooun/ Daphne/laurel Soap/daphni ojarr made in Aleppo? *** ** See # 6 here: http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=1543&st=0&p=14759&hl=humor&fromsearch=1entry14759 *** Ghar Saboun/ Daphni Ojarr; Read further to see how many times Aleppo is mentioned. BTW. The so called Armenian family name Masmaji-ian, Masbanaji-ian. Saboun-ji-ian/Soap maker is from the Arabaic Masbama to mean Soap/Saboun Factory.. Search and see how many Saboun-ji--ian families you find . http://shop.damascenetreasures.ca/index.php?currency=USD&cPath=81&page=2 　

Photo dated March 16 , 2011, about 2 years ago. An architectural masterpiece; http://www.armenianow.com/sites/default/files/img/imagecache/600x400/NKR-stepanakert_airport.jpg http://www.armenianow.com/sites/default/files/img/imagecache/600x400/NKR-stepanakert_airport.jpg What exactly is the meaning of “technical issues”? 2years ago we were assured that all issues were solved. See #1 above. ** Why are some comedians calling that sacred land, sanctified by the blood of thousands of beautiful men and women- still calling ARTSAKH “ kagorno kagabokh” ?

ASHOTSK Hey Ashot, is this village named for you? Are you the mayor? ----- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashotsk See Ashotsk here, north of Gumri; http://www.armsite.com/maps/index.phtml http://www.armsite.com/maps/mshow.phtml?when=now&slide=1 http://hetq.am/eng/articles/21821/ashotsks-winters-make-life-harder-still-for-those-lacking-adequate-housing.html tthp://hetq.am/static/news/b/2012/12/21821.jpg

I have shot my mouth for too long. As Hamlet would say- "The Rest Is Silence". I would like to hear the opinions and suggestions of our cyber-geeks like Azat, Harut, Sip et al, who btw have been silent for quite sometime. I would also like to see Garo and Yervant write a paragraph in Armenian.

Dear Yervant, thank you for your kind indulgence. No, my machine is not old, I am, neither is my browser defective, fact that I can reach you and other sites. It is about time you stop covering up and justify this FIASCO of a "new and improved system" and join the rest of us to ptotest to whom it may concern. It is time that you and others stop editing and re-editing posts by the likes of Ani etc to make it legible. I yearn for the days when we could write in Armenian and other languages without any contortions and aceobatics. Yet, then again WHO CARES? No one is writing or reading Armenian anyway.

Curses and more curses. Why am I still hitting my head against a rock attempting to write in Armenian? How stupid am I? : Why did my above post that I spent hours editing, re-editing and editing again, applying HTML, de-applying and re-applying again end up as such gibberish? Why do I break my own rules to not post in Armenian again, and rather write in Slavo-Latin characters like many of our friends do? What the **** does br> mean? ---- In addition to the above where according to the Gospel by MosJan R=GH and visa versa, where agha becomes ara and ara becomes agha. In Tehran friends address one another as AGHA-(ye.) Just like in Bourj Hamoud friend greet each other as AGA/dzo, aga/aga lan). Agha/aghbar? Hi Yervant! ** ** Note, In Beirut, mostly those of Adana origin use the term AGA most,

ARA HO!! No. This is not Comedistan, neither it is funny. It is not about Ara Geghetsik or Ara B either. No, it does not mean the imperative tense -take-arra as the latter is spelled with the letter RA. Even if on the surface it may sound funny it is serious. See below story; Anyone here know the meaning and implications of ARA, and why it has led to such a violent outburst? Ara; http://shamshyan.com/arm/l1gqerJYem.html If at the time I did not expand and elaborate enough and explain. Then let me add. ARA derives from AY TGHA, abbreviated to AY TA,/AY DA, further changed to A RA (Ask Mosjan how the letter R is meant to sound like GH, and visa versa). Basically, as always I am talking to myself as our friends from Yerevan will not tell us what ARA means on the streets of Yerevan and why it is so insulting to lead to a bloody brawl. In other words it is similar to the American slang HEY YOU!

A perfect portrait of what my friend calls Christian furks! Remember next time to not elect an arajnord born in furkey whose mother.... tongue is furkish.