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Thank you Mos. Here is the English version ==== Pres. Candidate Hayrikian shot. ===== http://asbarez.com/108019/breaking-news-hayrikian-shot-taken-to-hospital/ ---- - Asbarez Armenian News - http://asbarez.com - BREAKING NEWS: Hayrikian Shot, Taken to Hospital Posted By Ara Khachatourian On January 31, 2013 @ 12:44 pm In Armenia, [1] Presidential candidate Paruyr Hairikian YEREVAN—Armenian presidential candidate and leader of the Armenian Self-Determination Movement Paruyr Hayrikian was shot on Tpagrichneri Avenue, shortly before midnight Friday. He was transported to the St. Gregory the Illuminator Hospital. Hospital officials told Hetq.am that that at 11:55 p.m. Hayrikian was admitted to the hospital with a gun shot wound to his right clavicle and after surgery is recuperating in the intensive care unit. Emergency room reports indicated that his life is not in danger. “He is recovering,” said a hospital spokesperson. Yerkir.am reported that Prime Minister Tigran Sargsyan, Health Minister Terenik Toumanyan, presidential candidates Raffi Hovannisian and Hrant Bagratian, as well as members of parliament visited the hospital. Asbarez is following this developing story. Article printed from Asbarez Armenian News: http://asbarez.com URL to article: http://asbarez.com/108019/breaking-news-hayrikian-shot-taken-to-hospital/ Copyright © 2010 Asbarez Armenian News. All rights reserved.

　 　 http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/01/30/us-syria-israel-attack-tv-idUSBRE90T17Y20130130 It hit the fan. What a bunch of cowardly clowns! And we thought they were going to attack Tehran. Damascus is a 1000 miles west of Tehran. Syria Says???? ===== 　

Tork Strikes Again[/b ][/b] I have been debating about where to place this piece that was all over the media. International? Mythology? Or Comedistan? None of the above, so…Other. ---- Lightning strikes causes panic inside Turkish Airlines plane http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/turkey/9826458/Lightning-strikes-causes-panic-inside-Turkish-Airlines-plane.html No, no. They got it all wrong. It was the Dashnak/ ASALA firing BB guns. In fact it was Tork Angeghatsi, the god of Thunder and Lightning. Vorotum yev Kaytsak. Amprop yev Potorik/Tempest and Storm. Here is Tork with his weapon of Bolt of Lightning; http://understandingevil.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/god_lightning_right.png Thor, sounds like Tork; http://www.buzzle.com/img/articleImages/276067-15011-43.jpg When did those camel drivers from the Mongolian desert learn to fly airplanes? http://www.imagesofasia.com/html/india/images/large/camel-driver.jpg http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=13297

Iran: We've 'Sent a Monkey into Space' http://news.discovery.com/space/private-spaceflight/iran-says-it-launched-monkey-into-space-130128.htm Which monkey? This? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad_2009.jpg Or this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:%D8%B9%DA%A9%D8%B3%DB%8C_%D8%A7%D8%B2_%D8%AE%D9%85%DB%8C%D9%86%DB%8C.JPG 　;

This subject deserves a whole Separate Topic to see why it is that it must always force the Christian Armnian to convert to islam, judaism, or even to Catholicism, and not visa versa?

Thank you Movses. I had seen that article in Here and I was disturbed then as now; http://www.armenianweekly.com/2012/12/02/the-exodus-of-musa-dagh-armenians-from-the-sanjak-of-alexandretta-to-anjar-lebanon/ and I feverishly searched for Dr. Shemmasian’s direct e-address to urge him to use Armenian words and names, I did not want to write to the newspaper. My concern at the time, just as now is- Why are we still using the furkish name of that Sacred Mountain? Many sites about the Mountain use the Armenian version of Musa Ler. (Mousayi/Mousaneri Ler).** Oddly enough , I have known the Shemmasian family., Please, please, please again. Do not use the furkish name of that Sacred Mountain, even when referring to Werfel’s docudrama. We can always place his book title in parentheses if need be.*** If our intellectuals cannot bring themselves to not use furkish words and names, how do you expect us, the common people to? Also see #5 here, where we spoke about the refugees. http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=22066&st=0 And #82 here; http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=18748&pid=262785&st=80entry262785 **Sorry MosJan, with all due respects, Musa Ler does not mean Movsesi Ler, it means the Mountain of Muses. http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=3360#entry24600 See Mousa yin by Daniel Varuzhan; - http://armenian-poetry.blogspot.com/2010/05/blog-post_14.html BTW. In Greek mythology Erato is the Muse of Poetry. *** Yes, we know, even Rev. Andreasian used the D word, but that was a hundred years ago, when we all spoke in that cursed langauage. What is our excuse now? Who is forcing us? BTW, There is not even a Muas D*** anymore. It is called Samaan d***. See # 3 here; http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=18748&pid=262785&st=80entry262785 We also spoken about Saman d*** that many interpret as “straw mountian” HUH? It is in fact Sam’aan to mean Simon./ Simeon. It was named so when Alexandretta/Antioch was part of Syria .There is a mountain in Syria called Jebel Samaan. See why it was named- Mountain of Simon. http://www.cometosyria.com/en/pages/St.+Simeon+Church+syria/41/38 http://www.google.com/search?q=jabal+samaan+syria&hl=en&sa=N&tbo=u&rlz=1W1RNTN_en&tbm=isch&source=univ&ei=_7kGUfyAFYS10QHf44D4BQ&ved=0CEkQsAQ&biw=1052&bih=443

Unlike Ajarian, Ghapantsian does not acknowledge the relation of Ban to Bal. He writes in length about Ban. See Page 347 / 2409 Here; http://nayiri.com/imagedDictionaryBrowser.jsp?dictionaryId=6&pageNumber=347 I had known most of it, but I found a few surprises.. Beside the fact Ban means word/lgos, it also means work., as in “Hats ou panir ker ou banir“. Here is the most surprising. We all know that ban is often used to mean “thing“ . He explains why. Out of modesty, at times to avoid using the word people would refer to private parts as ban, also when people forget the word of an object/thing, i.e “What is the WORD for it“?. When in fact the word for “thing” is IK, at times “irk”. I had known this. An old friend who was born in Kharberd and spoke very good Armenian would never use ban to mean thing, instead he use ik/irk. Ir in fact means an object. See page 805 / 2409 in the above site..

At the time I did not have the means to wite in Armenian http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=7979&st=0 Here are what Ajarian says about the subject See Ban here; page 408 / 2705 And Bal here; page 388 / 2705 Assuming you can see and read the site. Please go back and forth to see other meanings of both Bal and Ban. http://www.nayiri.com/imagedDictionaryBrowser.jsp?dictionaryId=7&pageNumber=388 　

　 Yeah, yeah we know - Chemical Weapons. It is still fresh in our memory the WMD s in Iraq. Yet another ill wind trtrots from telaviv. Whatever happened to all that bombast of attacking Tehran? That notanyahudi needs a good kick in the a$$. See the rest here; http://news.yahoo.com/israel-warns-attack-syrian-chemical-weapons-181427470.html 　

Wrong thread.　 See Truth About Syria

Yervant. Thanks but no thanks for editing editing my post above. My intenrion for airing it in gibberish was to show what a bankrupt this this so called format is. Why did you remove my comment "The HELL WITH HTML" that I had spent hours witing, editing and reediting, and it appearing as chicken scratch at the end . WILL YOU PLEASE STOP COVERING UP FOR THIS FIASCO??!!! I am not the smartest of all, yet, I am not an IDIOT either. Is Johannes, who has stopped writing in Armenian an imbecile? Where are the likes of Ani and Nane who used to write in Armenian? Nane wrote to me in private, saying that she being a wife, a mother and a professional does not have the luxury of time to edit, re-edit and edit again. To, at the end with chicken gibberish. And now. Let us hear comments about Andranik Tsaroukian and his Dreamy Aleppo.

　 Please read the comments above. Particularly those by Vahe and Vartan, who dwell on words like “erthereal“ /dreamy and “Yeghern“.. Someone please tell us what that poster child of senility gaytzag palandjian s saying? I have known him for almost 20 years. He spreads his gobbledygook all over the place and writes in every forum, yet for all these 20 years I have not understood one word of what he is trying to say. He progressively makes even less sense than he did then. No, it is not his English or his Tehran Armenian. His brain and his beran/mouth may be anatomically disconnected. A true picture of a Poster Child of Senility. Is he saying that our children should move to Yerevan? Then, what is he doing in Florida? What is the definition of “Foot and Mouth” disease? Big Foot Big Mouth.

http://www.armenianw...thereal-aleppo/ I would have translated the Title Yerazayin Halep- DREAMY ALEPPO or Aleppo of My Dreams. We used to read his Journal NAYIRI more faithfully than the Bible, where every article were a gem in their own right. As mentioned below, his most memorable docudrama is the book Men Without a Childhood. Yet, one of his most memorable work is the politely indignant response to that commie dog Abov- Menq Chenq Moratsel- His Tought Ar Yerevan/ Letter to Yerevan. Thank you Vartahoor; It is no secret that Andranik was a Dashnak sympathizer, the reason why he took such an offense to the phrase -Dashnak Shuner. http://hyeforum.com/...283#entry202863 http://hyeforum.com/...486#entry249004 ======= - Armenian Weekly - http://www.armenianweekly.com - Dzarougian: 'Ethereal Aleppo' Posted By Jennifer Manoukian On December 11, 2012 @ 10:41 am In Books & Art,Opinion | 5 Comments Translated by Jennifer Manoukian The following passages are taken from Antranig Dzarougian's 1980 memoir, Ethereal Aleppo (Երազային Հալէպը). One of the foremost writers and editors in the Armenian Diaspora, Dzarougian lived and worked in the Armenian communities of Syria and Lebanon. Born in 1913 in the Ottoman town of Gurin (modern Gürün), Dzarougian was rescued during the massacres and brought to Aleppo, where he was raised in an Armenian orphanage. He is best known for a memoir about that period in his life, People without a Childhood (Մանկութիւն չունեցող մարդիկ), as well as for his long poem, Letter to Yerevan (Թուղթ առ Երեւան), and for the various pieces of prose and poetry published in Nayiri, the Aleppo-based, and later Beirut-based, literary journal that he founded and edited.  The way to the cinemas in Aleppo. (Photo by Nigol Bezjian) When Dzarougian passed away in 1989, Aleppo still bore a resemblance to the city that he had known as a young man, the city that he describes with such pride in Ethereal Aleppo. Through the following selections, we are transported to the mid-20th century when Aleppo was a thriving center of Armenian life, a haven for Armenians as they slowly rebuilt their community. In this memoir, Dzarougian shows us how, in many ways, Armenians adopted the city of Aleppo as their own. The Armenian community of Aleppo in the 1940's and 1950's was culturally vibrant, and the city continued to serve as a stronghold for diasporan Armenian identity into the 21st century, with its various cultural organizations and schools that have instilled in young Armenians a sense of responsibility in maintaining their language and culture. Today many Aleppo-Armenians teach in Armenian schools throughout the diaspora, imparting enthusiasm for Armenian culture to their students wherever they go. It was in fact thanks to the dedication of an Aleppo-born Armenian teacher that I developed a love for the Armenian language and learned the skills needed to translate texts like the following. Aleppo has molded community leaders and educators who have enriched Armenian communities across the diaspora for three generations, but its future is now in great peril. The magnitude of this loss has the potential to devastate not only the Armenians of Aleppo, but the entire Armenian Diaspora. It is essential that diasporan communities extend a hand to Aleppo and lend their support to protect one of the last bastions of diasporan Armenian culture left today. *** Nights in Aleppo. During the summer, my mother would take our mattresses out of our rooms, so that we could sleep out in the open air. On those deep dark nights in the city of Aleppo, we saw the sky's brightest stars and the world's fullest, most radiant moon. From the infinite silence of the night emerged a wandering display of shooting stars, a confusion of lights that left a trail of silvery feathers in its path. Nights in Aleppo. In Aleppo, there were still no buses to shake the ground and the old walls; cars were a rare sight and served only to transport people out of the city. It was the horse-drawn carriages that would circle around the streets; we would hear the rhythmic stamping of hooves on the black cobblestone, but this sharp tune would grow softer before it reached our sprawling third floor roof, and as the night drew on, it too would disappear. We had to listen very closely to hear the distant sound of the night patrol whistling from one street to another, or the dull clanking of caravans coming and going on the outskirts of the city at daybreak. These sounds seeped into my dreams, lulling me into the sweet slumber of the morning hours. For me the sky became a diary, even an illustrated book of memories, where the day's events and people, and the things they did and said, would parade past me once again. It was to such an extent that I had to wait until nighttime—lying on my back with my head on a pillow and my eyes fixed on the stars—for the events of the day to become simpler and clearer in that calm, quiet environment, even though I had seen or participated in those events during the day. My daily routine replayed over again at night, like a film reel rotating for the second time; people and events appeared sharper, and I saw details, subtleties and hues that had eluded me during the first showing. And when I reminisce about the past, about my dreams and days in Aleppo, people and events come to me not in their proper places and moments, but in the vast night's sky on the roof of the Marsilia Hotel. The boiling, crazy, foolish adolescent episodes of my youth in the streets, homes and gardens of Aleppo calmed over the years, but the sky saved copies of them, surrendering them night after night to create a pristine album… *** It is written that first loves do not come of anything and, even if they do, rarely do they end well. Being that they are the first, they stay pure and ethereal, like a lingering sunset in a haze of sweet sorrow… The star-studded sky of Aleppo—a close confidant—reminds me, one by one, of my first loves, crises and inner feelings. I reminisce about those days; in reality, about those nights. And as I write these lines, my eyes instinctively look up in hopes of finding the sky, but there is only a white ceiling above me… From very early on, my distinct comprehension of life, which matured over the years and took root in me, was born out of the sky and the stars above the Marsilia Hotel. On that rooftop, it was not dawn that announced the morning, but the call heard from below: haleeb! It was the milkman. They never mixed water into the milk, and in my days, Aleppo as pure as that milk.1 *** Easters in Aleppo… There are thousands of Armenians who have left Syria and Lebanon for all corners of the world; from Armenia to Canada, from Argentina to Australia. And among them is a generation in their forties and older for whom Easters in Aleppo have remained an indelible memory. For a whole twenty years, the city of Aleppo was the heart of the Diaspora, and during the three days of Easter that heart beat with national pride. Two or three thousand Armenian boys and girls, coming from all over the region to a sports field, transformed the city into a garden full of flowers that perfumed the air with freshness and Armenian identity. These days recalled the feasts of Navasart2 that we had read about in books, and after the games and competitions, the children paraded down the city's main boulevard like a torrent, accompanied by the roaring, rhythmic sounds of the brass instruments in the marching band. Easters in Aleppo would remain the greatest source of joy for every Armenian who experienced them, wherever in the world they happen to live now. On that field, I have seen Hagop Oshagan,3 who was given a standing ovation by twenty thousand Armenians. As he was being invited to the microphone, he squeezed my arm with such emotion that it stayed blue for days. I have seen Shavarsh Missakian,4 who momentarily forgetting modern Armenian, muttered, "Oh, take me to the days of Navasart,"5 in classical Armenian, as if he were praying. I have seen Dro,6 his eyes accustomed to seeing parades of soldiers, put his large, bear-like hand on my shoulder and say, "I want to fly among these children and hug them close." Easters in Aleppo… Notes 1 In the original sentence, Dzarougian plays with the words haleeb, the Arabic word for milk, and Haleb, the Arabic and Armenian word for Aleppo. 2 Navasart was a pre-Christian festival and athletic competition that marked the beginning of the new year each August. 3 Hagop Oshagan (1883-1948) was one of the most prominent literary critics and one of the most prolific writers in the history of Armenian literature. 4 Shavarsh Missakian (1884-1957) was an editor and journalist best known for founding the French-Armenian newspaper Haratch in 1925. 5 This is a verse from a poem from the pre-Christian era entitled, "The Dying Words of King Ardashes." 6 Dro (1884-1956) was the nickname of Drastamat Kanayan, an Armenian general, revolutionary, and politician. 5 Comments (Open | Close) 5 Comments To "Dzarougian: 'Ethereal Aleppo'" #1 Comment By Vahe Apelian On December 11, 2012 @ 12:20 pm It is refreshing to see a young and upcoming Armenian college student to have such a keen interest in Armenian literature to make it a career choice. I equally enjoyed reading the passages she translated. I hope that she translates some of his works, particularly his novel titled' "love During the Calamity" by the Centennial of Armenian Genocide. I see that she footnoted the passages to give a brief introduction of the character. That novel will enliven the Armenian literary characters for the reader and will introduce the brightest of the just pre-Genocide Armenian literary giants interacting as they would have in Dzarougian's superb literary imagination. The only objection I have to this translation is her choice of the word Ethereal. We have an Armenian word for it -եթերային . Dreamy is the best translation i could think of while admitting that translation is an exceedingly difficult art to remain true to the author in search of the right words and expressions that, even then, may not do do justice to the author's intent as we perceive it when reading in the language he wrote. Well Jennifer. I enjoyed reading it. #2 Comment By Vartan Matiossian On December 11, 2012 @ 8:24 pm I was intrigued to see the choice of "ethereal" for երազային, but then I found that the first meaning of the word "dreamy" in the American Heritage Dictionary is "resembling a dream; ethereal or vague." Therefore, I believe that Jennifer, as a translator with some published work, must have had her valid reasons to use "ethereal," a more literary term, instead of the literal "dreamy." I was also intrigued to see your translation "Love During the Calamity" for the title of Dzarukian's novel, "Սէրը Եղեռնի մէջ» (Sere Yegherni mech). As the author of an ongoing series on the meaning of the word "yeghern" in this same newspaper, where I have just argued that the translation "calamity" is utterly inaccurate (see the article "When Dictionaries Are Left Unopened…"), I'd appreciate if you indicated what dictionary has provided you with that translation. Thank you in advance. #3 Comment By gaytzag palandjian On December 12, 2012 @ 12:30 am I do appreciate all good literary works by Armenian writers,including Antranik Dzarukian´s. However, I beg to differ with the very untimely mentality of some ,rather most Arab Armenians,Bolsahaye Armenians and for that matter Barsgahay Armenians.latter lest nostalgious of Teheran.Like self who passed the first one third or less of my life in that country.Wonderfull Armenian environment , very good relations with Persians and yes even aterpatakan Turks. But when the 50th Anmniversary of the Armenian Genocide also was very stoutly celebrated-inclusive of a demanding tone-in Teheran,things changed for many of us drastically…. And above all when the 3rd Republic of Armenia came to be,eversomore… For self many like self realized that WE HAVE NOW OUR OWN STATE/NATION. If the above may sound a bit contra nostaligc to some ,i am certain there are many like sself that prefer to have a poor Armenia ,with less money making oppertunities(for the Armenian greed is also pretty well known) but yet Just to hand latest edition of USArmenia magazine from L.A. with a huge picture of Monte on cover,amoiuncing Film on Monte¨s Struggle— really I am puzzled. Even if for some reason or another, some of us cannot as yet Repatriate to Armenia/Artsakh,especially the young non married… we should encourage those who can and wish to do so .Fact of the matter is I have several times of mentioned on this Forum and in others that we begin to form into Rank & file ,PCA´s Prof. Colleagues Assoc. then establish National Investment Trust Fund ,preparing for the BIG REPATRIATION!!! For without Big Fund we cannot ealize much.Build our own Townships in areas wide open in both RA and Artsakh…. I am beginning hope that this will come to pass and the Bolsahye wioll not miss the Bosphorus Istanbulla and the ArabaHye long for Beirut or Baghdad.Aleppo.What is more whether we like it or not the Middle East is fast chaning its face.Alos Egypt.Not mentioning the countries West of Egypt as there are pretty very few AArmenians there… Time to think sseriously about getting ready FOR REPATRIATION #4 Comment By Vahe Apelian On December 12, 2012 @ 10:17 am Vartan First and foremost, I want to note that I am not a linguist, but I love, repeat love, to read in Western Armenian. So, my arguments are a layman's argument in the choice of two words I used, DREAM and CALAMITY. Dream is a word that is used both as a verb and a noun. When used as a verb, it conveys a longing. Unfortunately I have not yet learned to type in Armenian, therefore I leave it up to you to conjure sentences using the Armenian word dream as a verb. Now try to use ethereal as a verb, I do not think that you will be able to. Hence is my choice for the word 'dreamy' instead of ethereal, because that is what, in my view, best conveys Dzarougian psyche. There is an intense feeling of longing for those by gone days in Haleb in each story of the collection of his personal experiences growing and maturing in Haleb. Naturally in objecting I never, for a second neither doubted on the good intentions of Jennifer nor questioned her scrutiny of the words she chose to use. As I noted, translation is an impossibly taxing art. As to my choice for the word calamity, it was entirely mine. I never checked any dictionary. As far as I am concerned capitalized Calamity for Yeghern, uniquely defines the Armenian Genocide as the capitalized Holocaust does for the genocide of the Jews. I am fully aware of the objections to using the word Yeghern. As to why the word Yeghern (The Calamity) or Medz Yeghern (The Big Calamity) best embodies the Armenian Genocide, I quote the first Foreign Minister of the third RoA, Raffi Hovannisian: " Worse than genocide, as incredible as that sounds, is the premeditated deprivation of a people of its ancestral heartland. And that's precisely what happened. In what amounted to the Great Armenian Dispossession, a nation living for more than three millennia upon its historic patrimony– at times amid its own sovereign Kingdoms and more frequently as a subject of occupying empires– was in a matter of months brutally, literally, and completely eradicated from its land. Unprecedented in human history, this expropriation of homes and lands, churches and monasteries, schools and colleges, libraries and hospitals, properties and infrastructures constitutes to this day a murder, not only of a people, but of a civilization, a culture, a time-earned way of life. This is where the debate about calling it genocide or not becomes absurd, trivial, and tertiary" Yes, incredible as it sounds, it was worse than Genocide! #5 Comment By Vartan Matiossian On December 12, 2012 @ 11:49 am I don't argue that the word "dreamy" might convey better the Armenian երազային, but because we're talking about English, you know that there are words that don't convey exactly the Armenian meaning; say, for instance, the equivalence for կարօտ/garod. (The same happens with some English words when we try to translate them into Armenian.) I think, however, that a fluent native English speaker may have a closer appreciation of what sounds better in his/her mother language. About Yeghern: I'm 100% in agreement about its unique meaning (except that you may want to check a dictionary). After so much derision and scorn poured over that word, it is refreshing to read someone who reflects seriously on it. Article printed from Armenian Weekly: http://www.armenianweekly.com URL to article: http://www.armenianw...thereal-aleppo/ Click here to print. Copyright © 2010 Armenian Weekly. All rights reserved.

Braying Burro http://www.wizardofdraws.com/images/burro.gif http://now.msn.com/donkey-foils-burglary-in-colombia-by-braying-loudly-during-getaway ========= Avanak. See the Armenian version here; http://www.yerakouyn.com/?p=17447

http://www.azad-hye....ch-mutafian.jpgRhank you Vanetsi for your kind indulgence. You may have partially answered. Perhaps , above you would have meant "spit" instead of "sh**" Speaking of "spit", yes, we do spit on their sh**ty rabbinical beards. http://www.wmaker.ne...pg?v=1332328216 PS. Why do Aemenian clergyfeel obligated to let their breard grow? See pictures of Mutaf-oghlu http://www.azad-hye....ch-mutafian.jpg Is that a symbol of wisdom, just as the Armenian adage- "morouk chunim or khoskis havatas"?

This is ironic but not funny. Speaking of Vanetsi, see where the said Yeghisheh was born. As mentioned below, there was a bitter contest between him and the Aleppo born Abp. Tiran Nersoyan . Yeghisheh won, mostly because, in addition to the below, in addition him (a celibate?) having fathered several illegitimate children, he was a pimp for the Jordanian palace's drunken orgies. At the time his most vociferous campaigners were his “concubines”. That was the most scandalous era of the Jerusalem Patrirachate. We are not speaking of his pilferage of the Church treasures, when his loot were auctioned in many places. Then came Abp. Torgom who cleaned the “house garbage” to his best ability. Read the rest here; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeghishe_Derderian_of_Jerusalem 　

Dear Vanetsi, please expand and elaborate that he does not take....%&*$ Compared to whom , what? You seem to know something we don't? Yes, we know. Him having been born in Aleppo, like you-know-who, He does not "take &^$%"!

ARSHALUYS Nouthan? http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=48304#entry301393 Shortly we will hear a lot about the Patriarch elect of Jerusalem. We have so many Armenian names based on “light/luys” many of which are in majority Girl’s names. Such as Lousin, Lousadzin, Lousaber, Arevaluys, Luys Luys. We had two neighbors that we made fun of. One was named Luys Luys and the other Arevaluys. Please add more. This post is full of surprises. The first.. The surprise here is that in Armenia the name is also given to boys. In the Diaspora Arshaluys (Dawn) at times reduced to Arsho, is strictly a female name. Even if at times boys named Arshak or Arshavir will also endearingly be nicknamed Arsho.. Here is the other surprise (to me) is that I assumed the Abp Nourhan with a furkish name was born in stanbol. Surprise, surprise. He was born in Aleppo with a given name Boghos. Why did that joke of a patriarch Yeghisheh replace his Vhristian name Boghos and dub him with that furkish name nourhan at his ordination?** Notice that there is very little, if any good word about that so called patriarch. http://www.armenianchurch.org/index.jsp?sid=1&id=4070&pid=85&lng=en **Nourhan is the stabilized version ot the Pers-Arabic Nur Khan, meaning light of the prince.Yes, my Persian dictionary afforms that "noor/light" is of Arabic origin. Remember Lisa Halabi, aka Queen , consort of King Hussein Noor of Jordan? And when you open the site also click on her ancestry, like her father Najeeb Halabi. And grandfather from Aleppo,Syria, Halab. Was her real surname Haleb-li-ian?. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qu,sen_Noor_of_Jordan Like her father and grandfather She was a Christian until, ***Nouri is a very popular name, mostly boys, with Noura being its female counterpart.. To not forget the likes of Mutaf-oghlu and the almost Catholicos Bozabali-ian. Who will be the next Patriatch/Catholicos? Kurd-oghlu-ian?

SENATOR JOHN KERRY - MR. SECRETARY The congress hearings about the nomination of Sen. Kerry for the office of Secretary of State (Foreign minister) has begun. In the near past, all Armenian news media have expressed hopes that Mr. Kerry, rightfully a staunch proponent of the recognition of the Armenian Cause, may reverse the trend and pressure the perpetrators. Who will grill him on that issue? Senator Menendez (NJ)? Guess what his first action as the secretary will be, which country will be his overseas mission, That is if we believe the news from Ankara gaga. When above I said “rightfully” has its merits as Me. Kerry has been very sympathetic to the plight of the Armenian issues. And if we were believe some Armenian media, Mr. Kerry will be pressured and questioned on his position on Armenian issues. When will Mr. Kerry visit Yerevan and utter the G word? ===== Believe it or not. Here is his first action of his agenda. http://www.worldbulletin.net/?aType=haber&ArticleID=102080

Who invented the term BS? How does furkish BS/inek bokhu smell any better than Yezan Trik? ** If Syrian Armenians indeed traveled through those lands, how did they enter Yerevan through tightly closed and blockaded borders? Which border crossing? Ararat or Ani? Who among us believes that diarrhea of the mouth? If you believe it, I have a seldom used bridge over the River Akhourian to sell you. If they, in fact traveled by those lands, they traveled through Historic Armenia. An yet we and everyone else is parroting that BS turky droppings coming from ankagara. Who invented the term BS? ** http://www.mysabah.com/images/2010/20100906_11.jpg http://www.animalaid.org.uk/images/manure.png STOP!!! Stop indeed; http://slaq.am/images/news_0/221122721358342385.jpg http://www.slaq.am/eng/news/112272/

AZATAVAN Hey Azat, did you know there is a village named for you? Azatavan= Village in the region of Aetashat. Until 1945 it was known as chikdamlou.(raw roof, whatever!) by 1970 census a population of 2549 ***. On the left bank of the River Azat. ** http://hy.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D4%B1%D5%A6%D5%A1%D5%BF%D5%A1%D5%BE%D5%A1%D5%B6_(%D5%A3%D5%B5%D5%B8%D6%82%D5%B2) I can’t find it on the map. Neither can I see it in the hard copy map except an Azatavan Canal/Reservoir http://www.armsite.com/maps/index.phtml http://www.armsite.com/maps/mshow.phtml?when=now&slide=6 ** http://hy.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D4%B1%D5%A6%D5%A1%D5%BF_(%D5%A3%D5%A5%D5%BF) ***Make that minus one since our Azat moved out.

Hovannes , yerkar aten e qez chenq tesel, inchpes es? Aleppo Airport shut down. http://news.am/eng/news/136741.html ------- Also see this; http://news.am/eng/news/137073.html

Thank you Harut for the clarification. I had noticed that,. This flag thing is bird bra-I-nd. As it was said above .-As if we have solved all the problems, like war, poverty, corruption and emigration, we talk about such ephemeral subjects. This is known as sublimation when we talk about silly stuff and ignore the serious ones. When the country is infested with cults, people abandoning the Mother Church and the Country, we talk about how we spread Christianity from Ararat to Zion and Europe. Both idle talk.

In addition to knowing the Armenian Language, they should also learn some others. Look how they transliterated “brand” in Armenian “breyind”? Like in Bee aR EY eN and Dee. Spelled as if in kindegarten, learning the Ey Bee See. http://www.behance.net/gallery/New-Flag-of-Armenia-(design-concept)/6742535 Do these 10 year olds have parental permission to access the net?

:clap: Who are these clowns? They don’t even deserve a serious response except… Tsapik Tsapik Tsirani Before anything they should learn the Armenian Language, that it is not a dialect of furkish. See # 77 above, where we said that any name of colors with a suffix of GOUYN is a direct translation from furkish. Tsrirana-GOUYN? Why is not just TSIRAN-I enough. Tsiran is the fruit and Tsirani is the Color. Just like in Latin Apricot is both the Fruit and Color. Why stop rhere. How about we call the other colors like spitakagouyn, kaputagouyn, karmragouyn…etc. Speaking of learning Armenian, they should have a little respect to the rest of us, after all the 2/3 of the Armenian Nation are diasporans who write in that “funny“ orthography.. Why is the whole thing written the leninian non-orthography? The design? Yes , of course we are a Nordic nation! http://www.diehardrecords.net/CAT-0/images/StickCross.gif