Arpa

Quote Hi Arpa! Thanks for your input. I am a grey/white haired senior now, an Armenian-American.. ==== So am I an Armenian -American with grey-white hair, except that I am more fearsome than a grey wolf and foxier than a fox. Please, do not bring quotes from prophecy schmerophecies here, we have seen them all. We have already had them up to here. You seem to be a believer in those so called rectosi/voresi "prophecies". Me? I am an agnostic and skeptic SOB.

How about the novel East of Eden by John Steinbeck? http://en.wikipedia...._of_Eden_(novel) Where is the West of Eden? Do you mean the Armenian town of Fresno -Yettem? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yettem,_California

Dear man we never formally welcomed you, so Welcome! You never told us who and what you are, and your purpose here? Are you a semite or anti-semite? Why is this article taken from here - “biblical prophecy"? Don't you know that "prophecy" is a profane/prophane word? http://www.bibleprophecyblog.com/2011/07/turkey-to-double-size-of-its-army.html As to the de-ottomanizataion and re-ottomanization of the Middle East, lets go back about a century, even before the saga of the Lawrence of Arabia and see the de-turkification of Hijaz,/ Saudia,. Egypt and the entire northern Africa., Syria of King Feisal, Jordan of King Abdalla (the grandfather) and so on. And as to this your latest.. http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=46523#entry298762 Whatever the purpose may be, please search the forum and see what Johannes has said about Eden / Edem/Yetem and Aden the capital city of Yemen.

Above, those relevant sites were corrupted. Here they are again http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=22066&hl=marash http://www.azg.am/AM/ 　

Dang and bouble Dang.Let's try this again----MosJan, on 01 November 2012 - 12:01 AM, said: See # 133 here; http://hyeforum.com/...hp?showtopic Below a very cautious and non -committal declaration by the Marash Patriotic Union of Aleppo. http://hyeforum.com/index.php http://www.azg.am http://www.azg.am/AM/See highlight below. QuoteWe are certain that such savagery was not committed by the Arab Syrian patriots or even by the opposition. (We are sure) that those attacking Armenian (St. Gevorg) and other Christian sanctuaries are hired mercenaries who operate as per the instigation by turkey and its co-conspirators. ---- QuoteՀԱՅՏԱՐԱՐՈՒԹՅՈՒՆ Տեղադրվել է` 2012-11-17 01:47:46 (GMT +04:00) ՀԱԼԷՊԻ ՄԱՐԱՇՑԻՆԵՐՈՒ ՍԲ ԳԷՈՐԳԸ ՄԱՐԱՇԻ ՀԱՅՐԵՆԱԿՑԱԿԱՆ ՄԻՈՒԹԻՒՆ-ՀԱԼԷՊ 2012 Լրատու գործակալութիւնները անցած օրերուն հաղորդեցին, թէ Հալէպի Սբ Գէորգ եկեղեցին այրեցին եւ յարակից Մեսրոպեան վարժարանն ու մանկապարտէզը քար ու քանդ ըրին: Լուրերը մեկնաբանողներ ըսին, թէ Սուրիոյ ընդդիմադիրներն էին այս վայրագութիւնները կատարողները: Վստահ ենք, սուրիացի արաբը, ընդդիմադիր թէ իշխանաւոր, այսպիսի վայրենութիւն չի կատարեր: Հայկական եկեղեցի հրկիզողները, ընդդիմութեան անուան տակ գործող վարձկան օտար ահաբեկիչներ են, որոնք կը գործէն ըստ թուրքական պետական ցուցումներու: Մի քանի հատը յիշեալ վարձկաններէն վերջերս բացայայտուեցան սուրիական իշխանութեանց կողմէ: Հալէպի մարաշցիներու Սբ Գէորգ եկեղեցոյ պատմութիւնը կ՚երթայ ետ` մինչեւ 1700-ի ժամանակները. Մարաշ-Շեքերդերէ զուտ հայաբնակ թաղամասը, որուն կից կը գործէր նաեւ Մեսրոպեան ծաղկոցը, զորս հրկիզեցին թուրք վանդալները: 1921-ին ֆրանսական բանակի անարգ նահանջով եւ հայկական Կիլիկիոյ պարպումով հայ գաղթականները 1923-ին Հալէպի հիւղաւաններու մէջ իբր շարունակութիւն հիմնեցին Սբ Խաչ փայտաշէն եկեղեցին եւ դպրոցը: 1937-ին հիւղաւաններու վերացումով, Նոր Գիւղի մէջ կառուցեցին թիթեղածածկ Սբ Գէորգը: Ապա, 1955-ին, հիմնովին վերստին կանգնեցաւ փառահեղ Սբ Գէորգ եկեղեցին, որ այժմ թիրախ հանդիսացած է ահաբեկիչներու: Որպէս սուրիահայ քաղաքացիներ խորին յուզմունքով կը յայտնենք մեր վրդովմունքը: Կը դատապարտենք աններելի արարքը, ի կարգ կը հրաւիրենք ահաբեկիչներու հովանաւորները, որոնք իբր թէ կը կրեն արեւմտեան աշխարհի քաղաքակիրթ երկիրներու պատուանունը:

See # 133 here; http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic Below a very cautious and non -committal declaration by the Marash Patriotic Union of Aleppo. http://hyeforum.com/index.php http://www.azg.am http://www.azg.am/AM/ See highlight below. ----

What sort of furkey would be? It would be an uttoman utopia where Apostolic Christian turks (Armenians), Orthodox Christian turks (Greeks) and mountain turks (kurds) would all live in heavenly harmony, where 72 muslim virgins are waiting with their legs …..

RAPE OF ANI PART 2 From the Mirror Nov. 17, 2012 http://www.mirrorspectator.com/pdf/111712.pdf HiddenTruths or True Lies ? By Raffi Bedrosyan Pp 11-12  The picture above does not show. See it in the originl article at the Miror. Where the sign reads An@ orenyeri- oto park@. (I have no idea what orenyer means). Sign at Ani, with the spelling changed to the Turkish without a period above. See highlight bold below. To not forget this christian ? prayer . http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/kara_miller/24055505/11304/11304_original.jpg http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/kara_miller/24055505/11304/11304_original.jpg Of all the lies. A segment from above.

RAPE OF ANI CONTINUES http://www.armenianow.com/sites/default/files/img/imagecache/600x400/St-Savior-church-Ani-western-armenia-turkey.jpg http://www.armenianow.com/sites/default/files/img/imagecache/600x400/St-Savior-church-Ani-western-armenia-turkey.jpg http://www.armenianow.com/arts_and_culture/41151/ani_western_armenia_turkey_restoration_monuments Restoring Ani: Armenian specialists expect to be part of Turkey-led efforts for ancient Armenian capital St.Savior church in Ani By Gayane Abrahamyan ArmeniaNow reporter The first stage of restoration works of Armenia’s most beautiful ancient capital Ani in modern-day Turkey (Western Armenia) has been completed, but the issue of Armenian experts’ participation in the three-year restoration project of Ani’s four churches is yet unresolved. For several years now Turkish press has been trumpeting that the Turkish government is spending huge money on the restoration of medieval city of Ani, which is in ruins. However, the actual works started a few months ago, in August, and are mostly sponsored by World Monuments Fund and US ambassadors’ Cultural Fund created by the US Congress and functioning as part of the US State Department – the total of $1 million has been allotted for this purpose. As part of the restoration plan ancient St Astvatsatsin (Virgin Mariam) cathedral and half-ruined St Savior’s church will be fortified and repaired, roads to the monuments arranged and research excavations will be carried out. International Council on Monuments and Sites ICOMOS-Armenia leader Gagik Gyurjyan is convinced that Armenian experts will have access to the restoration commission. “Last year a resolution was adopted during the session of ICOMOS’s general assembly, demanding to include international experts in Ani’s restoration project. The expert group has not yet been formed, but I am almost sure that Armenian experts will take part in the coming stage of works,” Gyurjyan told ArmeniaNow. He believes that Armenian experts’ participation in the next year’s work is more important because so far only the technical part has been completed - roads have been repaired, fragments of the churches have been collected and numbered. It is not clear to what extent it is planned to restore as St Savior is half-ruined and it isn’t known whether they are planning to fully restore it or just fortify it. “The extent of intervention during the repair depends on the amount of surviving original pieces – if it’s sufficient to restore 60-70 percent of the monument, then total restoration is possible. But it might be better not to intervene to avoid distortion,” says Gyurjyan. By its attention to Armenian cultural heritage the Turkish government pursues several goals, dictated by self-interest. As experts in Armenia on Turkish studies often claim it is done to demonstrate to the international community how caring they are of Christian heritage. But architects and archeologists see another purpose – a dangerous hidden agenda to erase Armenian traces. “In the 1990s the Turkish government was implementing various kinds of excavations and research, but everything that was unearthed was destroyed shortly after to get rid of the Armenian traces,” Samvel Karapetyan, head of an NGO studying Armenian architecture and cultural heritage, told ArmeniaNow. The lengthy text on the information panel next to the museum in the ruins of Ani - 1051 years ago proclaimed as the 11th Armenian capital – says nothing about Armenians, Ani’s Armenian origin or it being Armenia’s capital at any point in history. None of the other panels installed there have any such references. “This is not unique to Ani, all the other Armenian monuments in Turkey share that same fate – not only their Armenian origin or any relation to it is not mentioned, but Armenian names, Armenian kings’ names are deliberately altered deluding both foreign and local visitors,” says Karapetyan. He recalls how in 2004 when he visited Ani excavations were being carried out at queen Katranideh’s mausoleum adjoining the cathedral’s eastern façade and the entire sepulchral complex. Two Armenian clergymen’s graves were discovered with Armenian inscriptions on the tombstones. “The following year we found them completely fractured, the remains dug out and scattered around. And it’s not like it happened somewhere in the mountains to be blamed on treasure-hunters, but in the museum under close watch of a big group of security guards,” says Karapetyan. Nonetheless, he reminds that Armenians can’t very much point the finger since for years they themselves have been negligent and “helped” the destruction of Ani. Next to the ruins of Ani by the River Akhuryan on the Armenian-Turkish border, the Armenian side had been exploiting a tufa mine until 2004 using explosives; the Turkish side periodically criticized this calling to stop the blasts. “In reality we were damaging our richest historical heritage by using explosives at a site where eminent archeologist Nicholas Marr did not allow to shut a bullet, as the sound waves from the shot would damage the half-ruined monuments. That’s an example of our indifference, our negligence that’s apparent at all our sacred sites,” says Karapetyan. While two years ago the Turkish government was repairing and, experts say, successfully fortifying Ani’s Tigran Honents Church, Armenian tourists thought it was their duty to leave their traces by writing their names and visit dates next to the ancient frescos inside the church. “In this highlight our voice is too frail to raise and complain of possible distortions,” says Karapetyan, but gives assurances that the Armenian side has to see to it that the restoration is done properly. Source URL: http://www.armenianow.com/arts_and_culture/41151/ani_western_armenia_turkey_restoration_monuments Copyright © 2002-2009 ArmeniaNow.com All rights reserved.

LLAMA JUICE ? A new Armenian power drink? No,no this is not Comedistan. Hey Harut have you been to that pastry shop? A good story. See the rest here; http://www.lvrj.com/view/bakery-serves-up-european-style-treats-created-from-family-recipes-179058631.html?ref=631 Hint.

Here is the original of that song Tutti Frutti And the papal joke http://www.ebaumsworld.com/jokes/read/467273/

I wish someone Johannes ? would post and make it legible here the article from Azdak about the Chapel in DerZor. Where it is coyly and cautiously suggested that it is a covert or overt conspiracy by ankakara to obliterate and wipe out each and every memorial reminiscent of the Genocide, and every vestige of Armenian culture and history in Syria and elsewhere. To not forget the trashing of St. Gevorg Church in Nor Giugh. "Direct and indirect dangers" Page one in Azdak 11/13//2012 ԱՆՈՒՂՂԱԿԻ ՎՏԱՆԳՆԵՐ http://www.aztagdaily.com/pdf/aztagdaily.pdf

Livingston County News Geneseo, NY November 12, 2012 ==== This eerie. I know exactly where Geneseo, a suburb of Rochester NY is. We became more aware of it when in 1991 we read the following in our local paper. Of course our detractors have had a hay day with the news and spread it all over the internet. Search and see. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vahakn_Dadrian

Johannes had alread aired the video above. Here is more about it. http://asbarez.com/106503/der-zor-genocide-memorial-church-museum-severely-damaged-video/ Der Zor Genocide Memorial Church, Museum Severely Damaged (Video) DER ZOR, Syria—The Armenian Genocide Martyrs Memorial Church in Der Zor, also known as the Holy Martyrs Armenian Church, has been severely damaged as a result of shelling, as revealed by video footage taken by locals and shared on YouTube Saturday. The lower level of the museum and memorial, where the remains of victims of the Armenian Genocide are kept, seems to be in ruins as well. It is unclear from the footage whether they were removed prior to the attacks. Der Zor has witnessed clashes between the rebels and the Syrian Army since the beginning of the armed conflict in the country. The few Armenian families living in the city left months ago. Hundreds of thousands of Armenian deportees were massacred in Der Zor in the summer of 1916. The memorial was consecrated in 1991 ===== http://news.am/eng/news/128252.html Armenian monument and church hit but not destroyed in Syria’s Deir ez-Zor November 12, 2012 | 21:53 DAMASCUS. – An Armenian monument and a church, which were hit by bombs in Deir ez-Zor, Syria will be reconstructed by all means, secretary of the Berio Diocese of the Armenian Apostolic church in Aleppo Zhirayr Reisian told Armenian News-NEWS.am. The explosion took place about a week ago. According to him, walls of the church were hit, and there are some gaps but the building itself is not destroyed. “Reconstruction will start after the military actions are over,” he stated adding there were other explosions as well on Nov. 11, however, no one suffered. In addition, Catholicos Aram I of the Great House of Cilicia of the Armenian Apostolic Church assured that the church and the monument will be reconstructed.

The above story is from here; http://eaglerock.patch.com/articles/harut-s-shoe-repair-enriching-eagle-rock-since-1980

HARUT’S SHOE REPAIR http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Hl5bQduRAMc/SqMlufMlIjI/AAAAAAAAGMQ/MsThLgGoa0o/s400/stilettoshoe.jpg A good story Is this our own Harut? http://o3.aolcdn.com/dims-shared/dims3/PATCH/resize/273x203/http://hss-prod.hss.aol.com/hss/storage/patch/8ba03ccac8b3a54cdfce63737824b167

Here are those sources that turned to rubbish above; http://culture.azg.am/?lang=AR&num=2006072203 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wives_aboard_Noah's_Ark

Tombs and Boombs From the ridiculous to the sublime. We read in AZG Culture of 7/22/2006 . See the rest here ; http://culture.azg.am/?lang=AR&num=2006072203 Here it is in nutshell First the ridiculous. That the asszeris have decided to excavate Noah’s tomb in Nakhjavan,,, ---- Then follows the sublime from Armenian sources, that not only Noah was buried there but also his mother, his wife and his sister. That this is not only attested by Armenian writers but also by European scholars, diplomats and travelers. And that his wife’s name was Noyemzar. http://armenian.name/index.php?a=term&d=2&t=1121 ---- See where the name Noyemzar comes from. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wives_aboard_Noah's_Ark

Աիրելի Եդուարդ խնդրեմ Հայեէրէն գրէ որ տեսնենք թէ այս նոր gibberish format ով կարող ես գրել:

What do you mean (your age)? I am only 17 going on to 18. The only difference is, I don't fire from the hip. Often I do. I spend hours, somtimes days searching and researching before I shoot from the hip so to speak. What kind of dictionary do you have, beside the russky/armansky/farsky? To set things straight, I can read arabo-farsi and some russky. Can you?

One last THINKING. Above where Nane cites hmout,jartar it has nothing to do with hmayk. It is an altogether other word. It is based on mit/mout/mitq/thought. As in mtatsel, to think. Where the H prefix is inserted to mout/hmout.

I rest my case. The rest is silence. We stated that Hmayak/Hmayq means CHARM and we stand by it. Besides, we have no right to butcher this thread started by Sarook

When the posts by our dear friends like Nane turn to rubbish it is time our ads reconsider.I applied HTML to her quote, see if it will sustain.---===---I think Arpa's explanation is the correct one. This is what we find in the dictionary Arpa is referring to Հմայեակ 1. կախարդություն պարունակող գիր. հմայիլ, պահպանակ 2. հմուտ, ճարտար Hmayak (Hemayag) - 1. writting that entails magical powers, protector 2. skilled, masterly It seems that հմայիլ is the same as համայիլ, which is from the Farsi hemayil, which is an item you hang around your neck to protect you from evil. It is typically a long strip of paper with prayers written on it. I think the name Hmayak (Hemayag) probably means skilled. Edited by Nané, Today, 08:09 PM.

CNN describes him as the MOST BRUTAL DICTATOR. Huh!!

I should shut up before I make a bigger fool of myself.. I will after you see this from Ghapantsian- Batsatrakan Bararan. Volume 3 page 113/ 1261 and on; http://nayiri.com/imagedDictionaryBrowser.jsp?dictionaryId=6&pageNumber=1261 Can we see the above site? Can we read Armenian?