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quote:Originally posted by Thorny Rose: Hello, Naira! I just remembered when I saw your name, you had told me about thinking pronouncing Armenian was hard but Abkhazian was like, weeew, that's right, it's nuts, all those whistling sounds! Don't remember the thread and am too lazy to search. Hadn't had the time to respond then! Later! Take care! Hi TRose, I don't remember the name of that thread either ... LOL. But I remember this topic. Yeah, Abkhazian sounds weird too. I never succeeded to pronounce smth that folks could understand. So you speak Abkhazian? It's pretty nice to know that your ancestors conserved the language. Do you understand people from Abkhazia when they talk?

quote:Originally posted by Paul bunyan: how about female warlords? they had them in Europe like Boudicca of England or Joan of Arc who commanded an entire Army and confered with the top eschelon including the King not bad for a teenager, there was a Queen Zenobia who fought Rome for 14 years and the er..., "unforgetable", Cleopatra, there is painting in Armenia of the battle of Avayair of Vartan Mamigonian fame one of his fighters is clearly female. Does anyone know her name and story? no hashish forever I have heard of one Armenian queen her name was Mary-Louys and she was .... pretty ... pretty nasty woman? Anyone knows about who am talking?

Ara, honey! Well-said! I liked what you have said.... You are improving "bohemian" writer. I'm still your fidel reader. But do not hope me to let you quiet.... This post was exceptionaly formidable!

quote:Originally posted by MJ: Needless to say that this is not a universal understanding. I agree with you, MJ! That's why I'am saying we've got lots of job still to do. Modernise our mentality. Get rid of useless fears and pride. The pride is a relative understanding which doesn't border with patriotism. I think the limit between a patriot and a fanatic nationalist draws over that fragile thread where patriotism becomes local or worse - regional. There is one patriotism - the one which helps us survive on every land. Ptriotism for the earth where we live. Earthly things are forgotten by patriots, but badly exploited by "nationalists".

quote:Originally posted by Rouben Malayan: Dear compatriots, I'm planning to design and put online a website for Armenian community in Netherlands. The original plan was to do it with help of Ararat Club in Amsterdam, I went there looking to awake interest in such project, but found nothing but indifference. I was truly disappointed to see that Ararat has become nothing but a place for some people to defend their interests and satisfy their ego, while nothing is being done to improve the communication butween people, promote culural events, etc. If we compare the activities of Armenian community in France to the one in Netherlands, we'll see that virtually nothing is being done here for almost 30 years. So I made a decision to go ahead with the website without their help or co-operation, hopefully there will be some people who can help with fundings on later stage. The site is very much needed, we need to appeal mostly to the young people, to awake the interest in their language and culture. Me and my friends are also planning to establish an Armenian Youth Club, is there a better way to attract people than a beautiful website with a lot of information and ideas? I would be very pleased if people will respone to my appeal and help with realization of this project. We need a webhost (in Europe preferrably), with a good hosting plan (no limit to storage and reliability 24 hours a day) and I also ask those who would like to publish previously unavailable online material, please contribute to the site. The purpose of the website is very broad, it will cover many aspects of being diaspora armenian, give young armenians (most of them don't even speak armenian, nor know enough about their own culture and heritage) tools to communicate, learn and eventually work together to help their country. We must take action and quick, time is not on our side. 2 years ago I wanted to build an interactive website which would teach armenian language online, in 2 dialects, but never could accomplish such task alone. My requests for assistance found virtually no respone. I would be delighted to include this important subject on the tasklist of this project. If you are interested in helping (with any means, sponsoring, contributing material, etc) please write to me at ararat@15levels.com">ararat@15levels.com I promise to give full credit to those who will help us lift this project. The domain of the site will be (I am negotiating with the russian newspaper

quote:Originally posted by MJ: Since we have opened a thread on Turkish Nationalism (in our International forum), I felt compelled to also open a thread on Armenian Nationalism. I am convinced that the Armenian nationalism, much like it has been in the last quarter of the 19th and the first quarter of the 20th centuries, remains the gravedigger of the future of Armenia. In my view nationalism is not characteristic to the Armenian essence and psyche, but is artificially planted in the some Armenians, which has resulted in blurring of the dividing line between nationalism and patriotism. This implantation of nationalistic sentiment has created a state of duality in the Armenian mass psyche, moreover, in the psyche of the ruling circles, and has, in my view, resulted in lose of perspective. As paradoxical as it may sound from the onset, I think that the nationalism and patriotism are two very different categories – one invites disgust, the other one invites admiration. The driving force of nationalism is the hate towards other nations (adversaries or enemies). The one for patriotism is the love for one’s own nation and country. Armenian nationalism, as any other nationalism, by in large drinks from the spring of hate. On such capacity, this feeling doesn’t necessarily imply patriotism. As a matter of fact, the nationalists, as a rule, wouldn’t give damn about our country, as long as Turkey (and Azerbaijan) go to hell. According to my observations, nationalism is more characteristic to the Armenian Diaspora, rather than the population of Armenia. It is resulted from a significant identity crisis among some significant segments of Armenian Diaspora. I recall a statement made in a speech few years ago, on April 24th, by an otherwise moderate Armenian young man, a sociologist, a university Professor, son of a family of renowned Armenian writers for a couple of generations. He said: “Our identity as Armenians derives from the Genocide.” Later in the evening I approached him (our children used to maintain relationship at the time), and told him that my identity as an Armenian derives from the Armenian soil and heritage, and having my ancestors perished equally with his ancestors in the hands of the Ottomans, I don’t define my identity through the Genocide, and I would readily associate my identity with the future of Armenia, rather than its past. However, I thought there was something very symptomatic in his statement. Armenian nationalism is somewhat rediculous. Once I've met an Armenian man. Married, 2 kids. His wife in the same hotel. And he was trying to chat in my room at the national interests and patriotism. I didn't like this man. But I couldn't put him out of my room, if my friend didn' invite him beofre I arrived. After a friendly dinner, we drank and we talked about different issues. Finally I said that I did sleep with moslims. That news made him turn red and blue and white. He got furious and let all his patriotic feelings go out. I just was tired and really in a very bad mood. I opened my door and I asked him to leave my room. No one could say anything. Because they have seen I was very serious... He got kicked out of my room and I never said hello to this guy. Such an *******. According to him we should stay pure and real christians. What an idiot theory! What a useless dogmatism! How cheap and rediculous!!!! And the worst thing is that idiots like him find sometimes many supporters. It's our fault that we do not speak out what we do think about our schit. There are many *******s among us. And we should be intellegint and espacially TOLERANT enough to re-educate them and find some new nation-wide inspirations. If we'll stay passive we'll loose our identity in between some pure-blooded "ego-centric" lunatics and "feticho" fake-faithful christians. What a company? I agree with MJ, that it's better to spend some time with a funny and interesting Turk, than to waste some time with an idiot Armenian. Be patient, please! We have lots of work still to do. Oh, yeah!

ali, I won't be so pessimist while analysing Russia's future. It leaves a very though period of mutation. Such a huge organism as appears Russia, cannot traverse a mutation itinery without painful cataclismes and hardships. Russia is a Great Power and it will make its come back on the world arena. It's a young nation alike France, UK, Germany and Turkey. But the difference is that it lays from Norway to Japan. It will never let itself be ignored. Russia has very clear ambitions and I'm sure it will overcome soon its domestic political and economic crisis. Then it will have its say. Russians never had been left to choose their future. It's the first time that their applying for this challenge. And I'm sure Russia will come out a stable and alternative world power. Since EU is in the stage of development. USA became the only world power without any contre-balance. This is pretty dangerous! It's damn dangerous. I think Russia, EU, China should contre-balance USA, until strong International institutions will be finaly established... Then we'll make a path towards one unique civilisation. Don't you think?

quote:Originally posted by Boghos: Turkey is a very peculiar country in the way it developed its political institutions. It also has a "shifted to the right" political spectrum. These have important implications in the way the state conducts its affairs both domestically and internationally. Can we expect anything positive, from an Armenian perspective, within the current modus operandi of the Turkish state ? It depends from which Armenian perspective we are dealing with Turkey. When it comes from Armenia, I think Armenia should keep up its efforts to launch a serious dialogue with Turkey. And at the same time to keep strenghtening its media influence on Turkish society, like Radio or TV programmes destinated for turkish-speaking audience. It's a the most pacifist way of destroying the "myth" of Armenians being enemies. Secondly, if we approach Turkey from Armenian Diaspora efforts, than we should make more accent on the Human rights and the Genocide affirmation issues. I think in this direction, most of all-armenian non-profit or even political organisations should take the initiative. How is that possible? You may ask. I'd say organising cultural, humanitarian or scientifique conferences and events with the participation of turkish intellegentsia or citizens. The summer camps for youth. Why not organise in sunny California or in sunny Armenia (LOL...) some camps for kids and their parents who want to exchange experience. Imagine turkish kids and armenian kids in the same resort. Difficult, but that could be a very positive programme. I don't think that we have to wait until Turkish society changes, or its political ambiance becomes more open-minded or peaceful. Armenians should make more precise exchange programmes. Only that way we'll try to change or influence changes in positive non-violent, non-confronting way. Saying that Turkey is nationalistic and millitarised society won't change anything. The constation of a fact should apply for some actions in order to bring changes. That was my point, Beau gosse! [ June 21, 2001: Message edited by: naira ]

quote:Originally posted by Berj: Whatever. I'll just edit the part your post about Urartu, because it's a misinformation.. In that case, it's better to bring some contre-arguments or any information you think is necessary to object mine, without being such an "arse-itcher" with me. Sorry, Berj! You seem to have more personal problems with me than with your "being" worried about the historic truth or objectiveness. Now, let me alone. I'm saying this, again, otherwise, you'll be simply ignored. I mean it!

quote:Originally posted by MosJan: THE GROUP ENVOLVED IN THE MACHINATIONS IN ENERGETIC SPHERE HAS BEEN ARESSTED 19.06.2001 /PanARMENIAN.Net/. With the prosecution of involvement in theft in the energetic sphere 1992-1999, a number of officials have been arrested. According to the public prosecutor of Armenia, Aram Tamazyan, the question is that they are the officials of the middle group. The criminal cases will be send to the court during the next weeks. As the agency "Arka" informs,the temporary parliament commission, studied the offenses in the energosector, found out that as a result of machinations in 90s, the Republic was inflicted the damage of $200 million. This is just another example of national suicide. In the situation that Armenia lives today, such cases can be considered as cases of "national traihison". This guys should get the toughest capital punishment. Of course, I'm not talking about the Death Penalty. But life inprisonment, will cool some hot heads, who are wasting public money, by putting the country under eternal slavery and dependance. What can be more tragic in Today's Armenian political cercles than the acts of corruption commited by high rank politicians who hold the economic and political stability and the future of the state in their hands. When, I'm saying, that there is no dialogue between the Armenian people and the government. This case is an exemple. Why the government is waiting for another "trouble", why it doesn't take more serious steps to fight the "corruption". Do they need civil unrest, or another "Revolution"?

Common guys, dream more...! BTW, I'm not at all McKinsey or Ernst & Young stuff. I'd rather participate in development Armenia's Media Infrastructure. TV, Publishing, Audiovision, Toursim and Entertainment industry. I don't agry that Armenia does not have historic sites to attract tourists. First we should understand that tourism lies not between historic attractions or western hotels, but between large scale developed infrastructure (hotels, transport, telecommunications) and the new ideas for attracting tourists. Armenia's almost lunary paysages (landscapes) can serve as a magnificent decor for developing sports resorts and sports toursim (alpinism, ski, snowskate, skydiving). Lake Sevan has a very impressive surrounding. Just imagine how would it work if it has all the infrastructure arround. I dream to buy a house over there, not because it's in Armenia (my historic homeland), but because it is a beautiful place. I travelled a lot around the world. And I've seen many really cool places. I'm confident Armenia has a lot to offer to tourists. On the other hand Armenia attracts many tourists by its historic sites. Alpha, sorry! I can't agree that Armenia will attract only diaspora. What Armenia needs is a well-established tourism sites and services. And finally, a big advertising and promoting campaign. People do not know tha Armenia exists. How do you want to attract tourists. I know some French guys here in Paris, who a year and half ago went to walk all around Armenia by visiting the churches and ruins of historic monuments. They should me the pictures they had captured : it was fantastic! Very impressive shots. And they were very excited about telling me all this because they got attached so closely to our nature and culture. It's not the only example. Recently many Israelis have discovered that in Armenia there existed very old jewish sites. Not far from old Armenian Education centers (Tatev, Gladzor) there have been discovered jewish cemeteries. It made an academic sensation in Israel. If it was in Israel, they would have restored this cemeteries and build hotels not far from there to bring tourists to that site. Who in Armenia will have such an idea, when most of Armenian historic sites are forgotten and not included in touristic guides? I think, Armenia should avoid building economy based on heavy industry. The best lot is to build economy on supplying chain principle. The Software development and telecom sector are one of the vitals. And I think that Government should make more efforts in supporting these sectors. Talking about financial center. I think without strong economy, one cannot become a financial center. The first sectors in economy that started to get shape in Armenia, after declaration of independence, were: Banking and Real Estate. I'm glad that Armenian currency (though poor rate) is one of the most stable currencies among the ex-USSR republics. But again, banking and real estate are the most classic sectors of economy, they get developed easily in every society. The toughest thing is to build real ambiance where the small and medium business will prosper. Mostly small and medium businesses are moving the economy in all sectors. Do we have in Armenia a favourable climate, backed by Government, for the development of SMEs. I don't think so! The last thing, I'd like to talk about the WAR and ECONOMY issue also. The war is not a reason, is a pretext to justify the "bad" situation in economy. Besides Armenia obtained ceasefire since 1994, right? It means the big war had stopped 7 years ago. And now let's make a resume of what did Armenia achive during this 7 crucial years of relative peace? Bad results, but not desperate. It's time to move I think. And the government needs some more initiatives to boost the economy. TAlks are cheap. Actions! We need actions from this damn stoupid government of corupted idiots, that armenians did elect!!!! LOL...

quote:Originally posted by Berj: Naira, The phone or what? Anyway you called first Berj: Ok, I'll hang up on you! Leave me alone, capici? Que bobo, putain? ... Gamavor: I would suggest as well to read my message. But it is useless, I think. You sound very determined. OK, then... go ahead! Let's see what do you want to promote!

quote:Originally posted by Tornado: How it comes that you have no slightest idea??? If a lot of youth are like this then I think the Pan Aryanists have the task to educate the youth about these interesting things. You can read the conversion of Kobad Sasanian and Ridak, it is about the typically foods,drinks, sweets, parumes, games at the time of sasanian. the Amrmenian nectarin is sid to be the best dessert [ June 20, 2001: Message edited by: Tornado ] Tornado, honey! I don't want to be nasty. But looks like you are enjoying when I'm nasty with you. I dont give a **** about pan-aryanists and the stuff they can teach. Please, keep me out of that demagogy.... Is it ok?

quote:Originally posted by Berj: Naira, Expressing my agreement with your assesment of Armenian claims of the Armenian lands in Turkey (with some reservations regarding the Kars Treaty) I would urge you not to talk about things you don't have a clue about. You have stated several times that you don't like to talk about history. Please, do so. Berj, Please, hang up!

quote:Originally posted by Tornado: Dolme's eat Greeks, Turks, Armenians, Azeri's, Persians, and Kurds, so they do Tan (Ayran/Dough). But Khorovads marinated in the pmao-grante juice is very ancient, goes back to the times of Arshakuni and Sasanians. May be... Though I let you to make all the research around this issue. I'm not interested in talking about something that I have no slightest idea. Like "times of Arshakuni and Sasanian".

I don't know Glendale, so I can't bring any help on finding a restaurant in that twon. But the reason why I'm posting rather concerns the Armenian cuisine issue. Sishi kebabs, kufta, dolmes, falafel have nothing to do with the athentic armenian cuisine. Armenians today are eating almost any kind of food which is very mixed and influenced, but if you go to a real Armenian restaurant there is rather a "duduk" player, or piano player. Whci has nothing to do with greek, arab, turkish or iranian folklore, which I like as well. Armenian cuisine is using lots of porc meet so the moslim influence is excluded, as you see. Then there are 100s of variety of different soupes. armenians are known as the most soupe drinkers after the japanese. But this tradition is skiped in armenian restaurants (besides in the Western world, you won't find that many armenian restaurants, they are mostly mid eastern or greek) Armenians are drinking a lot "Tan" kind of saulty yoghurt. There is a very popular soupe called "Spas", which has 10s of variety of serving. Another famous Armenian dish is "Tolma" (in mid eastern and greek tradition known as Dolma, it is one of the most spread armenian dishes around the world, in many other cuisines people will affirm that it's their ethnical dish!!! I don't mind... LOL!). The last widely spread dish is armenian barbeque called "Khorovatz". There are 100s of variety of Khorovatz. My uncle, for example, liked to marinate the meat for couple of days in palm-granate juice. The meat was melting while bbq'ed. He was grilling also egg-plants, peper, tomatoes with it. Yameeeee! Finaly the bread. Real armenian cuisine will never happen or be complete without the real "Lavash" - armenian bread. Which is quiet handy for rolling fast sandwiches. So if you want Armenian cuisine check those dishes that I've brought as exemple. Personally, I'm not a big fan of Armenian cuisine, neither any Mid-Eastern or Greek cusine. I love French cuisine. I think it's the best in the world. But I like also mexican, italian, japanese, korean, chinese, thai food. But it is worth to taste a real Armenian cuisine if you'll find one. Bon appetit!

quote:Originally posted by gamavor: If they start giving up lands, they should return half of so-called Turkey to the Greeks and the other half to the Armenians. And ultimately should move back to Mongolia. Realistically speaking, Turks will never give back the occupied lands. We must take them (if we need them), and I'm sure when the time comes that will happen. Peacefully. Until then we will keep the turks in the "back yard"! Well, the funniest thing is that the idiots like you, still are countless among us. I urge you to be realistic and more friendly to the past of Turkey and Armenia. If you can't be friendly, than I'll be there to remind you that your purposes on Armenians demanding land reparations are just silly and baseless. Get real, for a minute. You've got 30.000sq km of land in Today's Armenia and it is unexplored and undeveloped. I think it's enough to host all Armenians over there. Personally, I think it's even to biig for us. Try to make prosperous your everuday, thinking of future, instead of feeding your self with unrealistic and useless ideas about armenian lands in Turkey. If turks should go back to Mongolia, where should Armenians go? Where were we before? Hm, hard task to deal with, right? [ June 21, 2001: Message edited by: Berj ]

quote:Originally posted by THOTH: Well, yes - though I love all women of course! 28/29 is nice...you must be a hottie! (look young - can never be a bad thing...LOL) I just turned 40 myself (still hard to beleive I am not in my 20's...though I used to say..."hard to believe not a teenager" ...so I guess I am aging a bit...Well , your age isn't really a factor to me - I'm not planning to date you...and it wouldn't be an issue anyway (from my end) even if....I've certainly dated younger women before as well (in another life, long ago it seems...I am married with kids remember...LOL). I have also dated well older than me (lets see when I was 25 or thereabout I did go out with a gal in her late 30's for a bit) Our dear John - of RHCP fame used to date this (very hot) older gal (over) twice his age! They used to re-enact that scene (I'm sure you know the one...with the knife, her on top, etc) from "Blue Velvet" (speaking of David Lynch...)...and they got off (considerably) with it! (in front of us even...you were curious how I recognized his ass...) LOL! THOTH, baby: Sorry for being late with this reply, but it's better late than ever.... what do you think? I liked your videos. I feel some influences, but I don't dare to unveil them. However, I'm gonna tell you. I see some Andy Warhal's influence, by his early epoque of "Trash" stuff. I'm sure you heard of that peice. I couldn't watch it to the end. There is another great experimentalist Jonas Mekas, a lithuanian-born American form NY. He was shooting the same way as you did use some episodes. When did you shoot this videos, can you tell me more. Jimmy Hendriks: Talking about what did make me feel, if they were Jimmy Hendriks fans. The guitar, of course. The musical arrangement, in general! They sound like kids who deadly loved Jimmy's works. I didn't make any research on Mailor Brides, early influences. Does this band still exist? I didn't see Ara Ernjakian’s “Deadline in Seven Days”. But I'll try to check it out. While we still talk about cinema and Music. I'd say that I admire David Lynch. "Blue velvet" is one of his masterpieces. I prefer "Lost Highway". I think this one is a world "masterpiece". Very powerful film! Now I'm waiting for two releases: "Ararat" by Atom Egoyan and "Mullhound Drive" by David Lynch.... I'm very curious.... [ June 20, 2001: Message edited by: naira ]

Ivan Galamian was born in 1903 and died in 1981. After violin studies with Konstantin Mostras in Moscow and Lucien Capet in Paris, Galamian came to the United States in 1937 and quickly established himself as a leading violin teacher, with appointments to the faculties of the Curtis Institute and Julliard, and the establishment of his own summer school at Meadowmount. He published two method books on the violin: Principles of Violin Playing and Teaching and Contemporary Violin Technique. Galamian's students include such notables as Michael Rabin, Itzhak Perlman, Pinchas Zuckerman, and Jamie Laredo. In 1990 Galamian's widow donated her husband's personal collection of scores to the Music Library. The Ivan Galamian Collection contains 210 items, including scores given to Galamian by his teachers, Mostras and Capet. All the scores in this collection feature fingerings, bowings, and other markings written in Galamian's hand, and provide valuable insights into his approach to teaching and performing these works. As rare material these scores do not circulate, but may be viewed under the supervision of Music Library staff members. Most of these scores are copies of commercially available items currently under copyright, and therefore cannot be microfilmed. ----- Sources: - http://www.lib.umich.edu/music/galamian.html - http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0963717006/o/qid=993034874 /sr=2-1/ref=aps_sr_b_1_1/104-0292122-0657550://http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/A...0292122-0657550://http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/A...0292122-0657550://http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/A...0292122-0657550://http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/A...0292122-0657550://http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/A...0292122-0657550://http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/A...0292122-0657550 [ June 20, 2001: Message edited by: naira ]

Le peintre et décorateur Jean Carzou, décédé le 12 août 2000 à Périgueux (Dordogne) à l'âge de 93 ans, avait acquis une renommée internationale. La France, la Grande Bretagne, les Etats Unis, l'Egypte, le Japon ont accueilli plusieurs de ses expositions d'encres, de crayons, de gouaches ou de pastels étranges. Après une longue carrière de peintre, graveur et décorateur de théâtre il s'était lancé, âgé déjà de 83 ans, dans une gigantesque Apocalypse dont il avait paré les murs de l'église de la Présentation à Manosque (Alpes-de-Haute-Provence). Non pas l'illustration littérale de L'Apocalypse de Saint-Jean, mais "le climat de notre époque" peuplée d'horizons dévastés, de navires embrumés, de rails enchevêtrés et de blockhaus traduisant sa hantise de la guerre et de l'holocauste. Il y a notamment réalisé un superbe portrait de femme-arbre au visage de madone, délivrant au monde un message d'éternelle humanité. Né à Alep (Syrie) le 1er janvier 1907 dans une famille arménienne, Jean Carzou - de son vrai nom Garnik Zouloumian - étudie d'abord chez les Pères maristes. En 1924, ses brillants résultats scolaires au lycée français du Caire (Egypte) lui valent une bourse de la communauté arménienne. "Pour faire sérieux", il rejoint Paris pour des études d'architecture alors qu'il rêve des Beaux-Arts et du Prix de Rome. A l'approche des années 30, il "fait des ronds, des carrés" dans son atelier de la rue des Plantes à Montparnasse. Il vivote grâce à ses caricatures d'hommes politiques publiées dans la presse et à ses dessins sur tissus. Il peint "loin des écoles", faisant l'expérience nécessaire à l'aboutissement de ses personnages de "peintre-artisan" comme il se nomme. Un musée à son nom à Dinard En 1938, il organise plus de cent expositions particulières de ses oeuvres à Paris, en province et à l'étranger. Puis il participe à plusieurs expositions officielles organisées par la France hors d'Europe, et reçoit le prestigieux Prix Hallmark en 1949. Carzou ne se contente pas de peindre des toiles bleues et singulières. Il enchâsse ses tableaux et ses aquarelles dans des médaillons de velours ou de papiers dentelés. A certains critiques d'art qui le qualifient de "décorateur", il lance "vous aurez de la peinture mais aussi du théâtre". En 1952, sa réalisation du décor et des costumes des "Indes Galantes" de Rameau à l'Opéra de Paris le révèle au grand public. Il enchaîne avec Le Loup (1953) pour les Ballets de Roland Petit. Giselle (1954) et Athalie (1955) ravissent les spectateurs de l'Opéra et de la Comédie française. En 1977, Carzou dessine lui-même son costume et son épée d'Académicien avant de faire son entrée à l'Institut des Beaux-Arts. Pourfendeur du laxisme de la société moderne en général, et du cubisme en particulier, il estime que Picasso est "une personnalité qui ne fait pas de la peinture". Seuls Claude Lorrain, Watteau et Dali sont, selon lui, "de grands peintres". Auteur d'une importante oeuvre lithographique ("Les Illuminations" de Rimbaud) et de tapisseries, décorateur de Chapelle de l'église du couvent de Manosque devenue Fondation Carzou en 1991, l'artiste a vu son oeuvre consacrée en 1995, à Dinard (Ille-et-Vilaine), avec l'ouverture d'un musée à son nom. Père de l'écrivain Jean-Marie Carzou, Jean Carzou était veuf de Nane depuis 1978. Il était Officier de la Légion d'honneur, Commandeur de l'ordre national du Mérite et Commandeur de l'ordre des Arts et Lettres. ---------- Source: ACAM-FRANCE http://www.acam-france.org/armenie/arts-ga...erie/carzou.htm

Although interest toward Leon Tutunjian’s painting started growing in France since his death, his legacy has not been given full and fair assessment. Tutundjian was born in Amasia in Turkey. In 1915 he was sent to Greece with thousands of other orphans. In 1923 he left Greece for Paris, where only two years later had a very well-received one-man show in the Gale'rie Ney. In 1929, strongly drawn to Surrealism, Tutundjian became part of a group with Carslund, Doesburg, and Helion, and a year later started exhibiting with Arp, Herbin, Gleizes, Delaunay and Giacometti. "The most introversive, the most mysterious, the most surrealistic," wrote about him Helion. Perhaps the "ve'rite's inouies" in the art of Tutundjian are perceived by some simply as invention, but to him they were the real, heart-rending pictures of the childhood of which he never spoke. ---------- Source: picked from the Embassy of Armenia in USA http://www.armeniaemb.org/tutun.html [ June 20, 2001: Message edited by: naira ]

quote:Originally posted by alpha: In Guggenheim it says he is an abstract surrealist. I don't know the exact name of one of his pictures, but it had name Sochi in it, it's posted in one of the most visible places in Guggenheim. Do Gorky and Kondinsky belong to the same artistic movement? Whatever museum I have seen Gorky's pictures have always been the same salon as Kondinsky. I was wondering whether there is any relationship or not? I think Kandisky belongs to another stream of the same movement. And he has appeared in a more earlier stage.

Here is an article from San-Francisco Chronicle __________ Actress Arlene Francis -- famous for her 25-year role on the television game show "What's My Line?" -- died Thursday in San Francisco after a long illness. She was 93. Ms. Francis died at Kaiser Hospital, where she was attended by her son, Peter Gabel, 54. She had suffered from Alzheimer's disease. "My mother was a wonderful, loving woman who was able to communicate her warmth and vitality to millions of people as well as to my father and me," said her son, who is president of New College of California. Ms. Francis was born Arlene Francis Kazanjian on Oct. 20, 1907, in Boston. Her father, Aram Kazanjian, was an Armenian refugee from the Turkish massacres of 1905-06 who became a successful painter and photographer. Her mother, Leah Davis, was the daughter of actor Alfred Davis and instilled in her daughter a love of performing that came to shape her life. Ms. Francis attended school at Mount St. Vincent Convent and later Finch's Finishing School in New York. She resisted her father's attempts to guide her away from acting and became a star on radio soap operas in the early 1930s. About the same time, she won her first film role in the Bela Lugosi production of Edgar Allan Poe's "Murders in the Rue Morgue." In the early 1930s, she was a member of Orson Welles' experimental Mercury Theater and over the course of her career starred in many Broadway plays, including "The Women," "Once More With Feeling" (with Joseph Cotten), "Tchin- Tchin" and "Mrs. Dally Has a Lover." Her radio work continued into the 1940s, even as her career grew in film and stage. Ms. Francis starred or co-starred in a number of well-known movies, including Arthur Miller's "All My Sons" (with Edward G. Robinson), Billy Wilder's "One, Two, Three" (with James Cagney) and "The Thrill of It All" (with James Garner and Doris Day). In 1946, she married Broadway stage actor Martin Gabel. They lived together in Manhattan until his death in 1986. Ms. Francis was a pioneer for women on television, serving as editor in chief and host of the 1950s morning television show "Home," which was the predecessor of all the daytime talk and news shows on television. But to millions of Americans, she was best known for her role as a panelist on "What's My Line?" which began in 1950 and ran until 1975. During the 1950s, Newsweek declared Ms. Francis to be the third most famous woman in America during television's golden age of the 1950s. From the early 1960s until 1990, Ms. Francis was host of a daily interview show on WOR radio in New York City. She moved to San Francisco eight years ago to be closer to her family. In addition to her son, she is survived by her grandson, Sam Jaicks Gabel. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?...2/MNL216881.DTL

quote:Originally posted by MJ: I don't think calling him "Abstract Surrealist" is correct. This is the first time I come across such characterization. He, admittedly, is the founder of Abstract Expressionism. Well, your version is much better I was supposing he was in "action abstractionsim" LOL... By the way many source use this "abstract surrealism". I agree it's exagerated!!!!

In fact I made few mistakes. First. His name is : ARSHILE Gorky And he was the founder of "Abstract Surrealism" but not "action abstractionist". I don't know why I heard somewhere about the "action abstractionism". Well, skip it. May be my memory sucks. Here is more info about Arshile Gorky ---------- One of the most famous contemporary artists, the founder of Abstract Surrealism, Gorky was described by Andre Breton as the most important painter in American history. was born in Western Armenia, in the village of Khorgom on the banks of Lake Van. In 1915, Gorky (Vostanik-Manuk Adoyan) escaped Turkish massacres with thousands of others refugees by fleeing to Yerevan, where his mother died of famine. In 1920 he came to the US. His whole life in the new country, which ended in suicide, consisted of years of hard work and bitter struggle. Gorky made a thorough study of the art of ancient peoples, including the Armenians, and passed through all the stages in modern art until his efforts crystallized in his own personal style. Taking his artistic language to its limits and hiding in plants, flowers, a plough and peasant attire the deep meaning of life, Gorky achieved a superb harmony of idea and feeling. His work was a disturbing poem of great love and nostalgia, and the retrospective of his work in the Guggenheim Museum in 1984 was quite rightly described as Armenian-American art. -------- - http://www.armeniaemb.org/artists/gorky.htm - http://206.105.2.72/cgi-bin/searchengine/a....cgi?find=gorky - http://www.artcyclopedia.com/artists/gorky...ky_arshile.html - http://artscenecal.com/ArticlesFile/Archiv...297/AGorky.html - http://encarta.msn.com/index/conciseindex/...m?z=1&pg=2&br=1