Dave

Exactly! Nowadays, Eastern Turkey is a very poor region compared to other areas of Turkey, and even compared to Armenia. We can't wait until Turkey is in the EU and is having the chance to develop Eastern Turkey. Besides, the Muslims in that area are "multiplying like rabbits", as they say. We can't just stay idle when a Kurdistan is being created... Besides, how do you (Shahan) expect the Armenian economy to develop to the extent that you wish without establishing peace with Turkey? They're not willing to recognize the genocide, so we'd have to concede to Turkish demands. We'd have discontinue our campaign for genocide recognition. Then, we'd also have to give Karabagh to the Azeris. All of this for some money... Wow, the world has become so materialist.

Not to demand Western Armenia is illogical, especially now.

This has been circulating quite a lot. When is this resolution going to happen? Not much left before April 24...

Bashing Christian principles won't take us anywhere either.

Եթէ Հայկական դպրոց գացող Հայը այսպէս կ՛ընէ, ինչպէ՛ս կը վարուի Ամերիկեան դպրոց գացող Հայ երիտասարդը: Besides, you can't blame them for wanting to be like everybody else and living normal lives in the US. The importance is that they grew up in an Armenian ambiance. I should remind you that Hayastantsis have arrived only recently, unlike others who - I presume - have been in LA for decades.

Yeah, there's that too. But this is something else: WREATH-LAYING CEREMONY Tue, April 24, 2007 at 11:00am Embassy of Armenia 7 Delaware Ave. Ottawa, ONT K2P 0Z2 Maybe it's more for Ottawans or Ontarians.

Will anyone attend the protest in Ottawa? Buses leave from Montreal (and Laval) at 9:30. There's a wreath laying ceremony in front of the Armenian embassy (11am), as well as something in front of the Canadian Parliament (1pm) http://www.genocideevents.com/index.php?fi...&type=state There's also this: http://www.genocideevents.com/images/flyer/popup_image/one_1176049541.jpg

It's because the Greeks from Anatolia were either massacred or deported to Greece (to replace the Turkish/Muslim population that also left), while Armenians were subjected to genocide and deported to the Middle East. Syria and Lebanon may not look far from Armenia on the map, but the Soviet barrier աւելի հերացուց:

If, as you say, there should be a one-way relationship between the diaspora and Armenia, Armenian organizations in the diaspora are necessary. If organizations such as the ARF are non-existent, and if Armenia disregards the diaspora, how would it be kept intact and function as a coherent entity? It would automatically crumble because of assimilation.

That's not what I meant.

Armenians in Lebanon are well respected because of their neutral position during the war. The Lebanese now recognize that staying neutral was the right thing to do, rather than killing their Lebanese/Arab brothers and sisters. Your relatives in Lebanon seem to be an exception in the general tendency to remain neutral. (sako *****)

Right...

Garry Kasparov didn't simply come from Baku. He left during the Armenian progroms, and criticizes Azerbaijan for it. So he certainly has Armenian consciousness. (I've read these things in an older article about him)

No current ARF member claims those victories as his own. However, the ARF as an organization, does. By they way the Tashnags did have modern victories, such as the successful defense of Lebanese Armenians during the Civil War. The ARF has specific rules, but I do not know the details. They were applied earlier on, and still apply today. Nobody could brag about his achievements in the organization or for the nation... I've also heard that they'd send everyone to Armenia if it is invaded.

Conference about the Armenian Genocide in University of Montreal. See attached pic

Actually he's right.

Actually I think that we achieved a lot for such a small nation (in terms of size and population).

There's no point in doing that... Artsagourt martsagourt chi ga

TV reports gunmen wound mayor of Armenia's 2nd largest city, kill deputy, 2 bodyguards YEREVAN, Armenia: Gunmen wounded the mayor of Armenia's second largest city in a bold highway attack that also killed his deputy, his driver and two bodyguards Monday, a police official said. The attack occured around 10 p.m. (2000 GMT) between the capital, Yerevan, and Gyumri, a city of 150,000 located about 126 kilometers (80 miles) north of the capital, Armenian police spokesman Sayap Shirinian said. Vardan Gukasian, who was returning home after a party conference in Yerevan, was hospitalized in serious but stable condition after the attack on his two-car convoy, Shirininan said. Gukasian's driver and two bodyguards were killed and a deputy mayor died later from his wounds. Another bodyguard was hospitalized in serious condition, the spokesman said. Politics are tense and occasionally violent in Armenia, a small, impoverished ex-Soviet republic located in the strategic Caucasus region. In 1999, gunmen burst into parliament and killed the prime minister, parliament speaker and six other officials and lawmakers. In 2005, the mayor of a small town was arrested after he was accused of shooting and killing the head of the local electric utility. The mayor was later re-elected despite being jailed. http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/04/02/...-Mayor-Shot.php

Where did the thread about the 1985 attack go???

ANALYSTS SPECULATE ARMENIAN PRIME MINISTER MARGARYAN MIGHT HAVE BEEN MURDERED The sudden death of Armenia’s Prime Minister Andranik Margaryan, 55, on March 25 has set off red flags amongst veteran Armenia-watchers, some suggesting foul play. Whatever the cause, the politician’s death resulted in overnight changes for the fragile Armenian democracy and a host of other issues including the European Community’s quest for energy security in the Caucasus region and enforcement of international sanctions aimed at Iran. With Presidential elections approaching, Margaryan was increasingly seen as a viable alternative to the powerful Defense Minister Serge Sarkisyan, an ally of current President Robert Kocharyan, who is moving toward the completion of his term of office. Both men come from Nagorny Karabakh, an enclave inside the territory of neighboring Azerbaijan. Armenia’s armed seizure of this area in the 1990’s remains a volatile point of contention with Azerbaijan, a flash point in the Caucasus that continues to destabilize the region and slow down cooperation in economic development. Prime Minister Margaryan assumed office in 2000, following the murder of his predecessor. He had lately leaned toward addressing the consequences of Karabakh’s occupation to the Armenian economy. This conflict prevents Armenia, among other things, from enjoying normal relations with powerful neighbors such as Turkey and of course Azerbaijan, specifically precluding the option of Armenia’s serving as a transit country for Caspian oil and gas. Margaryan’s position conformed with the EU’s wishes to resolve the conflict and ensure a higher degree of energy security in the area, a stance strongly opposed by Armenia’s President and Defense Minister, both of whom had been guerilla fighters in Karabakh, steadfastly rejecting any compromise with the Azerbi demands. Margaryan’s position also flew in the face of the current President’s policy of energy cooperation with Iran, which often skirted international sanctions and the EU approach to Iran that Margaryan also supported. Observers report that Magaryan and his family have recently received a spate of threatening phone calls and letters, along with others in his Republican Party of Armenia, demanding his resignation as President and head of the party. There is also talk in Armenia that Margaryan had compromising documents regarding corruption in the armed forces, illicit real estate dealings by top military brass and illegal expenditures by the defense establishment which he intended to make public before the upcoming Parliamentary election scheduled for May 12th. http://www.businessportal24.com/en/ANALYST...TER_161890.html

As you may already know by now, GTA IV is going to be released this fall and the first trailer is out. Take a look: The game is set in Liberty City, which is strikingly similar to New York (the bridge, buildings, etc.). A lot of websites and reporters say that the main character of the clip has a Russian accent, but many in Youtube say that his skin is too dark and nose is too big for him being an ethnic Russian. He may actually be an Armenian. Here goes our image...

You're still forgetting that back then, terrorism wasn't as vilified as it is today, after 9/11. Ashamed? Well, you're probably talking about your side of the "fence". The ARF now has songs about the "Lisbon 5", etc. Apparently, many publications about the Armenian cause (including the Armenian genocide) appeared during those years. For example, Yves Ternon, who used to write about the Jewish Holocaust, "switched" to the Armenian genocide. How else did the foreign historians get interested? http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yves_Ternon Without the leverage that the genocide gained after the 1975-1985 events, it would have been practically impossible to make countries recognize the Armenian genocide.

The cops don't matter. They're not politicians or historians or Armenians. Well exactly. Prior to that, it was impossible. So? If 20 years is enough to forget about the attacks in the embassy, why isn't it enough for the guys to be released?