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You are showing as much disregard for the supposed "responsibility to the homeland" bit as the people you are reproaching. You are condemning people who won't sustain miserable lives for the benefit of keeping the country populated but you are unwilling to make your own sacrifice to book a one-way EVN ticket. I don't dare to criticize these people as I live my comfortable life in North America. Armenian citizens have as much a right to seek a good life as you or me.

It gets better: System Of A Down Mezmerizes Music Fans Worldwide Wednesday May 25, 12:53 pm ET Acclaimed Band's New Album Debuts At #1 Selling 453,000 Copies In The U.S., And First Week Sales Over 800,000 Around The World Mezmerize #1 In 12 Countries LOS ANGELES, May 25 /PRNewswire/ -- Mezmerize, the much-anticipated fourth album from the massively popular and critically acclaimed System of a Down, becomes the American Recordings/Columbia band's second release to debut at #1 on Billboard's Top 200 Albums chart, following the 2001 breakthrough, Toxicity. The album, released May 17, soared to the top spot on sales of some 453,000 units, according to Nielsen/SoundScan. By comparison, Toxicity, which has sold over 6 million copies around the world, scanned 220,000 in its chart-topping first week--an indication of the in-roads this band has made during the last three years with its inventive, uncompromising and rousingly provocative music. Clearly, System has touched a nerve in America and around the world. The L.A.-based quartet is experiencing similar levels of success in numerous other territories, as Mezmerize has also rocketed to the top of the Pan-European chart and album charts in Japan, Canada, Germany, France, Switzerland, Austria, New Zealand, Greece, Colombia, Brazil, and Sweden. Along with an impressive #2 bow in the UK and an expected #1 debut in Australia, the album's worldwide sales will top 800,000 copies for the week. The stylistically unclassifiable System has ascended into the first rank of global rock artists while retaining its longstanding credibility with fans and critics alike. "Everything on Mezmerize hits and splits with viciously honed purpose," raves David Fricke in Rolling Stone. Says Newsweek, "System of a Down's music makes you wish more rock bands would take such brave and impressive risks," while USA Today offers, "every track burns with urgency." Mezmerize is the first disc in a 2-disc set with disc two, Hypnotize, expected out late this fall. Mezmerize/Hypnotize was produced by Rick Rubin and System's Daron Malakian. System of a Down kicks off a 23-date tour of Europe this Friday, May 27. The dates will encompass appearances at major rock festivals in Spain, Portugal, Germany, Austria, Sweden, Belgium and Switzerland, as well as a three-night headlining stand at London's Brixton Academy. The band will embark on a major North American arena tour (with The Mars Volta as special guest) beginning early August. Dates will be announced shortly.

MosJan that is a sad tale.

I would agree that Radio/Video and Question! are highlights. I also like Old School Hollywood though I wasn't crazy about it at first. R/V would have made a good single, but apparently they've chosen Lost In Hollywood, which I think is a weird choice.

Excellent album. Pick it up this week and help SOAD debut at #1 on the US and Canadian charts, again.

vava, I'm trying to wrap my head around what is meant by that intro. Don't you have to undertake a historical analysis to draw a legal conclusion about whether or not the events constitute genocide under the UN convention? It's hard for me to determine what line is being drawn here. I don't know, whatever it is I still believe that the findings of this report can be exceedingly useful when calls for Turkish-Armenian rapprochments and joint study are heard. I'm sick of playing this dead-end back-and-forth game.

Even people familiar with the issue are unaware of the findings. What am I missing that prevents us from referring to the report at every opportunity? The conclusion drawn from the TARC commission: The crucial issue of genocidal intent is contested, and this legal memorandum is not intended to definitively resolve particular factual disputes. Nonetheless, we believe that the most reasonable conclusion to draw from the various accounts referred to above of the Events is that, notwithstanding the efforts of large numbers of "righteous Turks"59 who intervened on behalf of the Armenians, at least some of the perpetrators of the Events knew that the consequence of their actions would be the destruction, in whole or in part, of the Armenians of eastern Anatolia, as such, or acted purposively towards this goal, and, therefore, possessed the requisite genocidal intent. Because the other three elements identified above have been definitively established, the Events, viewed collectively, can thus be said to include all of the elements of the crime of genocide as defined in the Convention, and legal scholars as well as historians, politicians, journalists and other people would be justified in continuing to so describe them. What is unclear about this passage? This whole memorandum is available in three languages here: http://www.tarc.info/ictj.htm Why aren't Armenians referring to this document every time bias is alleged in historians or that the need for an independent study is called for?

My question is, how come the newspaper articles that mention this new commission never refer to the independent TARC commission that found that genocide had occurred? In fact, why aren't Armenia and the Diaspora referring the findings at every opportunity? How many times are independent Armenian-Turkish historian groups going to arrive at the genocide conclusion before Turkey acknowledges the findings as true? Why have we fallen into this trap?

This article made the front page of Yahoo! and is currently the 3rd most emailed article. It has been in the top 10 all day long.

You certainly don't have to be conservative to be affiliated with a church, or even to lead one. Remember that for all of John Paul's conservative ideals (and he had many), a lot of his stances were decidedly progressive. He came to the US and begged America to end the death penalty for good. He was bitterly opposed to the war in Iraq and called it a "defeat for humanity". Sip, you can be very liberal and religious -- don't forget that Jesus was a diehard peacenik lefty when he was roaming the streets

I just watched the full response to the caller.. he is still in favor of repealing Section 907 (which he calls a "pro-Armenia" initiative). He is trying to curry favor with us when the runs for the 2008 Republican ticket.

Senator Brownback's cheques from Azerbaijan must have stopped coming in because he is now in favor of Armenian Genocide recognition and has even signed a letter to Bush. To those unaware, this is the guy who championed the repeal of Section 907. --- Armenian National Committee of America 888 17th St., NW, Suite 904 Washington, DC 20006 Tel: (202) 775-1918 Fax: (202) 775-5648 E-mail: anca@anca.org Internet: www.anca.org PRESS RELEASE FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE April 18, 2005 Contact: Elizabeth S. Chouldjian Tel: (202) 775-1918 ANCA WELCOMES SEN. BROWNBACK'S SUPPORT FOR U.S. RECOGNITION OF THE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE. -- Following Remarks during Live C-SPAN Call-in Program, Kansas Senator Calls on President Bush to Properly Commemorate the First Genocide of the 20th Century WASHINGTON, DC - Senator Sam Brownback (R-KS), an influential member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and a leading proponent of U.S. action to stop the genocide in the Darfur region of Sudan, has called on President Bush to properly recognize the Armenian Genocide as a "genocide" in his April 24th comments, reported the Armenian National Committee of America (ANCA). In the years since his election in 1996, Senator Brownback has not traditionally supported Armenian Genocide recognition initiatives or other issues of special concern to Armenian Americans. He came to prominence in the Armenian American community in the 1990s as the leading opponent of Section 907, a provision of U.S. law that restricts aid to Azerbaijan due to its illegal blockades of Armenia and Nagorno Karabagh. Answering questions last week on C-SPAN's Morning Journal, a popular cable television call-in program about the Darfur Genocide, the Senator responded to a question from Armenian National Committee -Fresno activist Richard Sanikian about his opposition to legislation about the Armenian Genocide. Specifically, Sanikian noted that we was "very curious why, for a number of years, [senator Brownback] has always opposed Armenian Genocide [recognition] year after year." He noted that the Senator's conduct was "very disturbing" and expressed his "hope he has a change of heart and since he is talking about morality and humanitarian issues now I hope that this coming April 24 he moves into that direction because we have a lot of Armenians Americans in the United States - we're tax payers - we work hard in this country and we want our senators... and we want you to join the rest of the senators and move this issue forward." In his response, Senator Brownback said that he "appreciate[d] the question," and clarified that, "I do not oppose a recognition of the Armenian Genocide that took place." He added that past genocides "should be recognized for what they are. . . when people are killed in mass numbers and tried to be wiped out and many were killed in what took place. . . I am not opposed whatsoever to recognizing the genocide that took place in Armenia, but we do need to do what we can to grow those areas, to get democracy to take root in the region, which is starting to. . . [in] Georgia, Kyrgizstan. . . we need it to many of the areas as well." "We welcome the support of Senator Brownback for U.S. recognition of the Armenian Genocide, and join with him in working to strengthen the American response to the genocide taking place in the Darfur region Sudan," said ANCA Executive Director Aram Hamparian. "Armenian Americans - victims of the first genocide of the 20th century - deeply appreciate his leadership, along with Senator Jon Corzine, on the Darfur Genocide Accountability Act." Sen. Brownback joined this week with over 30 of his Senate colleagues in cosigning a Congressional letter to President Bush urging him to honor his pledge to recognize the Armenian Genocide. A similar letter in the House of Representatives has garnered over 175 signatures. To watch the interview on the C-SPAN archive, visit the C-SPAN website and fast forward roughly 25 minutes into the broadcast. Senators Brownback (R-KS) & Corzine (D-NJ) Situations in Rwanda and Sudan and other topical issues. 4/7/2005: WASHINGTON, DC: 45 minutes: C-SPAN rtsp://video.c-span.org/15days/wj040705_sens.rm #####

No doubt that neither is a pleasant way to go, but saying someone is starving to death conjures up more negative imagery than saying that they are dehydrating. God forbid we get Kevorkian to inject some chemicals into her and have her pass away peacefully and instantly.. that would be euthanasia! And we can't have that now can we? The pro-life people would rather see her wither away.

To be fair, she dehydrated to death and not starved. The "starvation" belief is (liberal?) media spin to make the situation appear to be worse than it is. Only the sworn testimony of her husband and two other people to whom Terri expressed her wish to die in the circumstances. More about that here: http://www.democrats.com/node/3941 What the article neglects to mention is that the family's inability to pay for the life-support is also taken into account when making the decision. So much for compassionate conservatism.

Also what about the death penalty? The people who are most in favour of keeping this woman alive also support capital punishment... isn't that an end-all argument for the "life at all costs" position?

Tom DeLay pulled the plug on his father. Terri's father pulled the plug on his mother. It's time to end this hypocrisy and political pandering and allow this woman to die in peace as she requested. Even most Republicans, conservatives, and evangelicals support this stance. The way that Terri's life has been exploited by extremists trying to push their agenda is disgusting. Bush wouldn't even take a minute of time off his vacation when 250,000 people perished in the tsunami, and yet he returned to Washington in the middle of the night to sign a bill that curtailed 19 separate judicial decisions, many of which were given by Republican appointees. Now that he's seen the polls, you can see a total 180 in his stance.. it's rotten to the core.

Your assertion is valid and I've seen it be brought up in the past. It's win-win: lower-income, rural regions where much of their base is concentrated and where access to more founded information is limited would be more affected by this sort of legislation. More babies, more soldiers, more Republican voters... it's cynical, yes...

Evem more good things about the abstinence program comes today from the AP! Study: Abstinence Pledgers May Risk STDs By MATT APUZZO, Associated Press Writer NEW HAVEN, Conn. - Teens who pledge to remain virgins until marriage are more likely to take chances with other kinds of sex that increase the risk of sexually transmitted diseases, a study of 12,000 adolescents suggests. The report by Yale and Columbia University researchers could help explain their earlier findings that teens who pledged abstinence are just as likely to have STDs as their peers. The latest study, published in the April issue of the Journal of Adolescent Health, found that teens pledging virginity until marriage are more likely to have oral and anal sex than other teens who have not had intercourse. That behavior, however, "puts you at risk," said Hannah Brueckner, assistant professor of sociology at Yale and one of the study's authors. Among virgins, boys who have pledged abstinence were four times more likely to have had anal sex, according to the study. Overall, pledgers were six times more likely to have oral sex than teens who have remained abstinent but not as part of a pledge. The pledging group was also less likely to use condoms during their first sexual experience or get tested for STDs, the researchers found. Data for the study was taken from the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health. An in-school questionnaire was given to a nationally representative sample of students in grades 7-12 and followed up with a series of in-home interviews roughly one, two, and six years later. It was funded in part by the National Institute of Child Health and Human Development and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (news - web sites). Leslee Unruh, president of the National Abstinence Clearinghouse in Sioux Falls, S.D., called the study "bogus," disputing that those involved had pledged true "abstinence." "Kids who pledge abstinence are taught that any word that has 'sex' in it is considered a sexual activity," Unruh said. "Therefore oral sex is sex, and they are staying away." Millions of teens have signed written pledges or verbally promised to abstain from sex, part of a church-led effort to discourage premarital sex and the spread of disease. President Bush (news - web sites) has boosted funding for abstinence-only education in schools. Critics say that education needs to be coupled with safe-sex education to be effective. "If adolescents only had sex in monogamous, married relationships, by definition there would be no STDs," Brueckner said, echoing President Bush's remarks in last year's State of the Union address. "But the majority of adolescents don't live like that. They do have sex." Last year, the same research team found that 88 percent of teens who pledge abstinence end up having sex before marriage, compared with 99 percent of teens who do not make a pledge.

I used to have that album. "No Good" is actually the only track I can remember, it had that memorable chorus: Youre no good for me I dont need nobody Dont need no-one Thats no good for me And then it would go into a musical frenzy. Good track. Yes it's their most popular, but I'd still say that "Fat of the Land" is their best album. Many people will disagree but "Jilted Generation" sounded too dated for me. Maybe I need to give it another try. Their latest, "Always Outnumbered," was pretty disappointing. EDIT: No wait I take it back, I also remember "Voodoo People" which was my favorite track off that album. "MAGIC PEOPLE VOODOO PEOPLE"

Right now, as we speak: Flood by Tool

Boooooo what did I miss

2 more events! Steven Sim – "Akhtamar and Arshile Gorky : Myths and Realities" Centre de l’UGAB de Montréal, 805 rue Manoogian, H4N 1Z5, Salle Demirdjian March 20, 7pm Steven Sim – "The Ruins of Ani" Z-310, Pavillion Claire-McNicoll, Université de Montréal, 2900 chemin de la tour, Montreal, QC March 18, 7pm

Beloved, banned HyeForum members makes his way to Canada Who: Steven Sim – "Ninety Years Later" What: Sim will speak on the state of monasteries, monuments, and cemetaries 90 years after the genocide Where: Centre communautaire arménien de Montréal, 3401 Olivar-Asselin, H4J 1L5, Salle Aharonian When: Saturday, March 19, 7pm

For me, a Liberal vote well spent

The media didn't touch the story when he was one of the top conservatives on Clinton's ass during the scandal.. they didn't touch him at the height of his hypocrisy, I sadly can't see them doing anything about it now. It's that crazy liberal media at play again.