wh00t

Just had its biggest weekend to date with $251,750 at 33 theatres. Ranked 25th overall. $80,000 more will put it at over $1 million total. [ December 02, 2002, 03:52 PM: Message edited by: wh00t ]

Domino, all I can say is lol. What kind of pressure is this to post my review? I have just returned from the movie, and will write about it tomorrow. I must sleep.. the night-time will allow me to digest it all.

quote:Originally posted by Domino:wh00t, if you see a couple of Haitians on the theatre, I have something to do with that. I was able to force them to come and see the movie, by comparing the Armenian genocide with what the Whites did to the Blacks. I must admit that that's pretty impressive.

quote:Originally posted by Azat:wh00t, I am actually interested to hear what you thought of this movie. Did you see it already or not yet? Azat, despite my obsession with the movie ever since its conception, I couldn't get myself to see it last weekend due to schoolwork. Yes, as Domino pointed out, it kills me that people (including Armenians) who didn't know the movie was coming out have seen it before me, but I will see it this weekend. Nobody seems to be able to go with me, my Jewish friends have Hannukah and what have you, but I'll see it this weekend even if I go alone Expect a review from me soon

Well, Ebert saw it, didn't like it, and posted a needless half-truth about the "enormous controversy" surrounding the Hitler quote. http://www.suntimes.com/output/ebert1/cst-...ararat27f1.html "Note: In the film, Adolf Hitler is quoted discussing his plans for genocide and asking, "Who remembers the extermination of the Armenians?" The film presents this as fact, although there is enormous controversy over whether Hitler actually ever said it."

quote:Originally posted by Domino: http://www.glacombe.com/drapeau/quebecani.gif Vive le Québec libre.[/QB] T'es seperatiste toi?

With ARARAT out last week and the new SOAD album out this week, has there ever been a time when Armenians were higher up on the popular media ladder? Go get "Steal This Album", the new album out by System of a Down. An incredible CD, totally up to par with the other two. Help them debut at #1 on Billboard again!

quote:Originally posted by Domino:Try to beat that onw wh00t. http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/politicalcompass/questionnaire.pl?page=pri ntable_graph&X=7.75&Y=9.54://http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/pol...h&X=7.75&Y=9.54://http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/pol...h&X=7.75&Y=9.54://http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/pol...h&X=7.75&Y=9.54://http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/pol...h&X=7.75&Y=9.54://http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/pol...h&X=7.75&Y=9.54://http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/pol...h&X=7.75&Y=9.54 Here ya go: http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/politicalc...X=10.50&Y=10.50 Economic Left/Right: 10.50 Authoritarian/Libertarian: 10.50

Hagarag: Wasn't me wrote this ridiculous piece of racial hatred. Call me evil, but I was a bit amused by the whole thing. Domino: Thanks for the clarification! Here I am thinking the imprisoned Kevorkian had the main role.

Perhaps the best ARARAT review thus far: ********FUNNIEST MOVIE EVER!!! ******** I THINK THIS WAS DEFINITLY THE FUNNIEST MOVIE OF 2002 UMM NO IT WAS THE FUNNYIST MOVIE EVER!IT WAS SO ENTERTAING EASPECIALY THE PART WERE JESUS CAM BACK AND HAD A TEA PARTY WITH THE ARMENIANS THE ACTORS WERE ALSO EXCELLENT CHER WAS A GREAT CHOICE FOR THE LEAD LADY AND JACK KEVORKINAN FOR LED MALE I COULDENT PICK ANY ONE ELSE MYSELF THIS VERY LOW BUGET FILM ALSO HA AOLT OF GREAT VERY WELL ACTED SEX SECNES LIKE WHEN JACK AND JESUS WENT TO THE PLAY BOY MANSION THAT WAS MY FAVORIT BUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE FUNNIEST PART OUT OF THE WHOLE MOVIE WASNT EVEN IN THE MOVE ... IT WAS THE THEATERS IFULL OF OLNY 1 RASE THOSE ****IN ARMINIANS AND THATS THE ONLY RACE THAT WILL SEE THIS MOVE THOSE GAY ASS OH THEY KILLED MY FAMILY SIX HUNDRED AND THIRTY SIX YEARS AGO ARMINEINS SO YA VERY FUNNY MOVIE BUT RENT IT ON VHS INSTED (PEOPLE GET MAD WHEN YOU LAGHF IN THE THEATERS BUT I DONT KNOW WHY) how can people see this movie? me and my friends saw it as a joke and simply horable its just........... gay

It's possible to get strong right Right if you try real hard : Economic Left/Right: 7.25 http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/politicalc...h&X=7.25&Y=4.77

You forgot the Montreal Mirror, which callled ARARAT a "deadly bore". This comes a few months after they ran a cover story on Egoyan. Cover story: http://www.montrealmirror.com/ARCHIVES/200...02/upfront.html

Thank you for your review Azat. I have seen few if any reviews from Armenians other than the customary "GREAT MOVIE EVERYONE SEE THIS OSCAR SWEEPER!$#@@!!". Are you thinking about the movie because of haunting images or complex storyline? Also, I'd appeciate if someone could tell me how many minutes, approximately, there are of film-with-the-film footage. Your comments about the cast are surprising, since if there is anything that critics agree about this movie, is its strong acting.. especially Raffi, Christopher Plummer and Bruce Greenwood. Here I am asking questions when the movie has arrived in Montreal. I've probably followed this movie closer than anyone in the forum. Soon enough..

That's a great article Azat, thanks. Sent it many people when I first read it a couple days ago because of the good new information on Ararat, Zaillian, Yemenidjian and others. Was a bit surprised to find out that Yemenidjian rejected it, but then in their defense, and as you state, they aren't exactly as financially flexible as Miramax! Hopefully the new James Bond will help. [ November 22, 2002, 03:52 PM: Message edited by: wh00t ]

And now some commentary from Azerbaijan: Our Century (Azerbaijan) Nov 20 2002 MINISTRY OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS OF ARMENIA HAS EXPRESSED ITS CONCERN ABOUT ANTIARMENIAN MOODS IN USA Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Armenia has expressed its concern about antiarmenian moods in USA. An incident at Gleendail University, Arizona gave occasion for such sharp statement. The professor of history Alan Wiliams has insulted in public his student - Armenian citizen A. Alaverdyan, having required her coming back to Armenia. On professor's words even if so-called «armenian genocide» took place in the beginning of the twentieth century, it was lawful. As it became known, University management has not dismissed the teacher - racist yet, just temporarily discharged him from work. The representatives of Armenian Embassy in USA have already flight from Washington to Arizona, to understand what has happened, as Central-Asian News agency informs. An incident at Gleendail University, Arizona gave occasion for such sharp statement. Gleendail? Oh, Glendale. Gleendail University? Oh, Glendale Community College. Arizona? The professor of history Alan Wiliams Probably a good idea to mention professor of U.S. history. Armenian citizen A. Alaverdyan, having required her coming back to Armenia. Armenian citizen? And that last statement is a misquote. On professor's words even if so-called «armenian genocide» took place in the beginning of the twentieth century, it was lawful. The biggest lie of this entire "article"! This never happened!

Domino, I'll see you at the AMC

I'd like to see how Hye Forum members rank on the political compass. Go to http://www.politicalcompass.org and take the test. Discover something about yourself and post your results. Let me start with my results: Your political compass Economic Left/Right: -2.12 Authoritarian/Libertarian: -1.64 See my graph here. I seem to be centrist with a leftist tint.

Sip, I understand what you are saying, and in normal circumstances I would agree. I would say hey, ARARAT isn't a big-time motion picture that appeals to the masses, so why would they review it on a nationally broadcast show to people who will never see it? My problem lies in the fact that apparently they do review less "important" movies on a regular basis. This weekend, when ARARAT, IMO should have been reviewed, they chose 1 movie which is on all accounts less "important" than ARARAT (the Motown flick) and one perhaps equally "important" (The Crime of.. which was a hit in Mexico). When an unknown Motown documentary gets chosen in favor of an important work of a world-renowned film director...

Hmmm, Sip I'm not sure death threats are the issue. I don't think the critics are fearing for their lives.. if giving ARARAT a bad review had consequences like that, half our critics would be dead by now! But seriously though, the whole ordeal annoys me greatly. Under normal circumstances, ie. if the movie did not deal with the Armenian question, a new $11-million Egoyan picture would definitely be reviewed. Am I blowing it out of proportion? You decide..

It seems Ebert and Roeper, formerly Siskel and Ebert, arguably today's most popular film critics, are not going to review ARARAT on their nationally broadcast television show. This past weekend they chose to review two other films out in limited release (LA/NY): THE CRIME OF FATHER AMARO and STANDING IN THE SHADOWS OF MOTOWN. They also reviewed a film coming out this coming Friday, THE QUIET AMERICAN. It should be noted that THE CRIME OF FATHER AMARO grossed about double what ARARAT did in its premiere weekend, but it was shown in 43 theaters as opposed to ARARAT's 6. But more shockingly, STANDING IN THE SHADOWS OF MOTOWN grossed half of what ARARAT did, despite being shown in 4 times as many theaters. What valid excuse do the critics have to not review an important Atom Egoyan (whose SWEET HEREAFTER made both Siskel and Ebert's top 10 of the year list) motion picture picture, one that has generated so much buzz, a film that opened the Toronto Film Festival? Surely it is more worthy of a review than THE SHADOWS OF MOTOWN? I am convinced there is some foul play involved to keep ARARAT's subject matter from reaching a wider audience. Nobody can force them to review a movie, but the circumstances demand explaining. I thought that perhaps they were waiting for it to go for a wider release before reviewing, and perhaps this is still the case, but seeing as how they reviewed 2 other limited release movies this week, I'm not so sure. I encourage you all to contact Buena Vista Entertainment as well as ANCA, AAA, and any other organizations who could look into the matter. [ November 19, 2002, 04:49 PM: Message edited by: wh00t ]

Associated Press Director Atom Egoyan's "Ararat" opened strongly in limited release, taking in $162,000 at five theaters for an impressive $32,400 average. "Ararat" centers on an ensemble of contemporary characters to examine the legacy of Egoyan's Armenian heritage and the dispute over whether Turks were responsible for genocide against Armenians during World War I. Armenians say 1.5 million of their people were killed, but Turkey says the number is inflated and that Armenians were killed or displaced as the Ottoman Empire tried to quell civil unrest.

Hagarag how is your book coming along?

Domino, you found that article amusing too! I considered posting it but didn't. My favorite "quote": The first thing they teach in the kindergarten is "Turks are dogs." These are the first words and we have checked their books. Sure enough I checked my kingergarten books, and there it was: "Turks are dogs." The "doctor" is onto us!

Associated Press has a mixed record on reporting the genocide. After April 24, 2002, AP used the term "genocide" unambiguously to describe the events of 1915. They used the term "Armenian genocide" (without quotations) many times and referred to the slaughter as "the genocide". Shame if they are going back to their deceptive ways. [ November 17, 2002, 06:30 PM: Message edited by: wh00t ]

quote:Originally posted by Domino: Yet, he has attacked every Armenian sites he could find, and claim that web Armenians do not repsent real Armenians. I assume by "real Armenians", he means the hardcore, quasi-xenophobic, only hang with Armenians and do Armenian-related activity Hyes. You know Domino, this could well be true. Take some of the most active members of this forum, for instance. I know that you aren't engaged in Armenian social life too much. Sip has recently said that Hye Forum is the only Armenian activity he regularly participates in. Hagarag doesn't even have an Armenian name, refuses to speak Armenian in public, and most people aren't even aware of his ethnicity. Lord knows I'm probably the least socially involved Armenian in Montreal (though I make it up in other ways). Are the member of Hye Forum really representative of the larger community?