Dan

no, actually, i was not gonna ask that. you just assumed, and you are wrong (no, i didn't change my mind now just to make you look wrong)... things like that happen. yeah, i've lost loved ones, and i've asked that question many times, but ive found an answer for it, that things happen, maybe for a reason, maybe at random, and we have to accept them, just like we have to accept the way we are born, our differences and similarities. and for the record, i do not answer a question i don't understand. so make it clear for me otherwise i will not answer it.

wait till Davo replies to this.. *puts his halo on*

no it's not, and i'm gonna bash you for it... ok ok, kidding dude! and lol Sip...

Of course not... even if SHE were the one who had the problem.... marriage is not about having kids, it's about love, respect, and commitment. You say so when you get married in church... It is stupid to leave your wife just cos she can't bear your kid.... not to mention, very rude.... One of the few things I'm completely intolerant of. Go adopt a kid, there are lots of orphanages out there, you'd be doing good for a human being, at least, instead of selfishly seeking to multiply your genes. That's the classic example of how Armenian in-laws brainwash either the man or the woman in the couple (mostly the man, cos most of the time the wife is in no position to leave her husband) and create such problems with those myths about how if there's a problem with not being able to have kids, it's always the woman's problem... i've heard too many such stories... f***ing materialistic idiots. And those are the same people who go around on crusades in the name of Armenian traditions.. More like Armenian stupidity. It's about time that we see the difference between ignorance/illiteracy and Armenian "traditions"/culture...

lol... and why is that? i have no intentions to touch him, so no worries.

:lol2: wow, such a small world, eh? it's like that here in the Armenian community... people have a way for knowing/spreading word, which i don't understand.... don't know if it's an Armenian thing or just in general.... wierd...

lol, no you can't. i thought it varied from one person to another.....

all this talk about japanese flags is making me go ---> http://64.21.83.54/forum/style_images/1/icon8.gif

lol... i don't think you can tell -- unless if you got a STD or he told you..

you are saying the exact thing I said, about which you made such a big deal...... i frankly can't see what that has to do with the topic at hand. try to be more relevant next time, or explain your points clearly if you think it shows/proves something, instead of just putting a statement and assuming that i can read your mind... so you're saying God loves me and he's gonna send me to hell? MMMMM... but hey, at least i will be among my "comrades" in hell, who needs eden with sheepish, blind minds like yours...

no, that was not harsh at all. in fact, it wasn't even stupid. it was a point well made (and not denied)... what i consider a stupid comment is something like what spectra said in a thread that has now disappeared into thin air, not surprisingly..

i don't know -- i guess i just fell asleep during those classes - i wasn't interested in these things in high school...

of course, Sasun, i do know that... but the "hymen" can be torn without having had intercourse lol... so there's no sure sign of whether or not a girl is a virgin...

Hmmm, true that, but I'm not sure how you can order it -- credit card? I don't have one. At any rate, I am coming to Cali soon, and will get my hands on one for sure.

of course *puts on his halo*

lol, so you're implying that i'm not really gay, by using that "keyword" if? better not waste your time on trying to prove that i'm not gay, cos I can assure you that I am. I refuse to believe in anything that will give me guilt trips, without even proving that I am really wrong. You folks who believe there is a complete distinction between good and evil (and that labelling each person/act as one of the other is possible) just make me shake my head in total disbelief. no, if you are oh-so-goddamn-sure that you are smart enough to prove something by your unproven "facts", then do so in public. i'm sure all those "evil open-minded people" would be converted into your Armenian spirituality and adherance to our pure roots and traditions. what do you mean by cultural relativism? i am not trying to be open-minded simply to look cool. if you had walked in my shoes or the shoes of any oppressed group, i'm sure you would've gone on a crusade against religion and the justification of intolerance by means of the argument of "tradition" and the very standard argument of God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve, to the extent that it is PATHETIC. no. culture does not include religion or church. culture is about social practices, not spirituality, and what proves that is the fact that there is more than one Armenian church (in fact, 3) -- particularly one that follows the Vatican.. are you telling me that ALL Armenians must be Armenian Orthodox? lol... you're making me laugh... and that proves what? is there any proof that Jesus was the son of God? Do you really believe that Mary got pregnant by God? If so, you must be one blind and brainless sheep... have you ever wondered why a coupla years in Jesus' life have not been documented in the Bible? ... i suppose you only believe what you are told by our "great" and "holier than thou" church. lol... so it's posted in churches... and that means that it is truth? do you have any proof that the bible was anything more than a book written by human beings, a sort of philosophy, or a moral code for regulating human behaviour by getting people to be in fear of a God that sees everything and would punish them whenever they committed a "bad" (translated: something they [those who wrote the bible] did not like/approve of) act? And why should I live for that? If you truly think that all Armenians should live for that sentence, that unbased, unproven piece of BS that has cost our nation millions of lives (with all due respect to all my ancestors who were massacred), you are truly delusional. if you think there is anyone in the world who has ever lived for that one sentence (including priests *cough* pedophilia *cough*), the church has succeeded in blind(fold)ing you... good. then you and your church's bible-thumping minions can be content for once in their life that their intolerance sent someone to hell -- again being blind to the fact that they have made their own lives hell, destroying themselves in their quest for revenge about something that one man or a group of men came up with when their muse was giving them a free ride ... lol, good boy... your mom must be really proud of you... maybe she's glad she made your life an unliveable hell. at least mine is liveable.. and then they wonder why so many teenagers need shrinks... ahhhhh... no wonder, dude.. no wonder.. so yeah, i'm a lakot.. yeah, i grew up without a dad. i'm assuming you have a mom and a dad, a very Christian family indeed... brilliant. but you should realize that the fact that you are a regular church-goer does not guarantee you a good time in your life, happiness, etc., that i can assure you -- take it from me (someone who has been through one hell of a ride losing the people i cared about most when I most believed in your oh-so-almighty God). If there is indeed a God, i am sure he would love me no matter who i am, regardless of my past, present, choices, nature, and future decisions or actions. And well, if there is no God, then it's the same anyway. I live for myself and for those whom I care about, and had i been a religious person with all i went through, i don't think i would've been here today, and THAT i know for sure. Atheism is the only thing that clears my conscience, and rightly so. if there were a God and you could prove its/his/her existence, i would still refuse to be a "believer", simply because i've been through a lot because of it, and my blind faith in religion led me to places i wouldn't ever want to be again. look here, kiddo (and i do not say this with any sorta contempt) -- maybe it would be a good investment to learn how to think by yourself, it is a healthy thing to do at least once in a while. Read the Sodom and Gemmorah story again, and try to come up with your own interpretation of it. if there is a God, he must've decided that i be who i am. if there is a God, he must have a plan for each and every person.. and if your God is truly there, then i am an example of his plan. i don't really care about the big bang theory or what have you. i don't really care about where we came from. all i want to do is live my life in peace, except that your bible-thumping friends are the hypocritical stone-throwers whom Jesus himself supposedly condemned... so if you are not a sinner, go ahead and throw the stone. your own bible says so. but i suppose there are double standards for interpreting the bible too... double standards for everything... a double standard world... i wonder if we have a double standard God too.... Get over your doGma, and you will lead a healthier life, especially at 19, you don't need that kinda stuff.. you can still be a believer -- intolerance and spirituality do not come bundled in a package, ya know?

one wouldn't have guessed that i attended an evangelical & anglican based school all my life, eh? .......... and for the record, debate is when one chooses to reply to a certain person. by refusing to reply, there is no debate WITH that specific person, not necessarily in general. And you can spend the night with whoever you want, be it your relatives or your dog, I don't give a damn, it's your right to do so, as long as there's no abuse going on.

"Of course Israel doesn't want witnesses against it in this historic case in Belgium which will certainly convict Ariel Sharon, the permanent and continued criminal." - Shimon Peres to reporters in Jordan Hobeika said in July that to prove his own innocence he was ready to testify against Sharon. He repeated the offer on Wednesday to visiting Belgian senators. The Palestinians' case was launched under laws giving Belgian courts powers to try crimes against humanity, wherever they have been committed. I don't think it was Palestinians who killed him, simply because that would be shooting oneself on the foot, especially when he said he would testify... let the guy testify and get Sharon convicted, and then do whatever you wanted to do to him -- that is why I don't believe it was the Palestinians who did it...

I just listened to the songs, and they're nice!!! Hmmm, so the CD is in the market now, right? (correct me if i'm wrong)... i might ask my grandparents to buy one for me and send it to me, since we rarely if ever get CDs by Armenian singers/bands here in Toronto.

Nice!! I just listened to the song samples, and they're great!!! I like all 3!!!! :) Very nice... especially Til Georgia.. the music is awesome..

yes, and i suppose disobeying your parents is part of our Armenian tradition? Very religiously oriented act, I must say... and i thought the bible said that children should obey their parents...

so ya think you're smarter than the Boston Globe, eh? you should probably look in the mirror one of these days - you might be surprised at what you see there.. and do you think all the activists' efforts are for one word, and all the lawsuits, money, and time gay couples invest in this cause is just about that term? You are delusional...

i am making points in general, not necessarily referring to you...

no, that doesn't mean that i want to be a woman. i am not saying that because women have their rights, gay people should have their rights too. i FIGHT for my rights, i don't just talk about it and wait for them to give it to me. nothing comes our way easily... look at yourself fighting with me tooth and nail for one word called marriage......... and you're talking about me wanting to be a woman in order to get my rights? hell no... i would fight for it.. gladly, and with pride.

on the contrary. it is not confusing at all.. not for me or gay couples. so just cos you're confused, we should be denied the right to get married in church???? i am talking about governments stepping in and banning the blessing of gay marriage by churches that are willing to do so. i am not saying that ALL churches should be forced to bless gay marriages.... whoever the hell wants to should be allowed to is the bottom line.