Dan

get someone to build a special clock/watch for you that goes by Skittles Standard Time... i.e. goes faster and you actually think it's about time you get back to studyin'

why Bush for 2004 then?

it's more like the other way 'round for me... like 10 minutes of study, 1 hour of reward.

i guess paying more attention to a president's BJ was more important than paying attention to 9/11 and the truths behind it. i guess that's what makes U.$.A the most moral country in the world.. a top secret thing is not necessarily put into practice and successfully fools everyone. fortunately, we have people who think by themselves and actually analyse what they're told... in other words, it doesnt enter from one ear and leave from the other... of course, while clinton was being embarassed to no end on T.V and while you were sitting in front of that tube and watching him say "I did NOT have sex with Monica Lewinsky", there were more important things going on..... things like, the next election campaign, the situation in the middle east, etc. so many reasons why that scandal erupted... yeah, so dick cheney's daughter is a lesbian. i wonder why there's no scandal about it...

lol JF, I know you weren't referring to me, i just meant - were you serious in saying that you supported Bush.. i guess you were... lol and commies are not backstabbers. i'm a commie.. well, sorta.. lol... well, but Clinton did a great job with the economy, no? better than Bush at any rate. Bush is a friggin anti-Arab. and he's not even ashamed of it.. he should just shoot himself. the world would be a better place without him (and Paul Martin & that poodle Blair, for that matter). Yes I knew what Yid referred to lol..

yes, but you must remember that Clinton was not a republican..

No, more like, if Gore were elected, all this wouldn't have happened. i still believe that 9/11 was Bush's doing.. not that bin laden is an angel or anything. on the contrary, he's the sorta man who would do anything, would even sell his fellow arabs for money or for his other aims, and even if he was the one who did it, it could be that the U.$ knew something about it or even that they made a deal about it. ya know, oil is such a good thing.. eh? do you think the war on iraq would've happened if 9/11 hadn't taken place, and that so many people who supported the war would've supported it had the WTC not been hit? and for more on 9/11 pics (not the answers, cos they are stupid), check this out.

:blink: did you forget the sarcasm tag or are you serious? lol, i guess we disagree on some things then...

lol JF... i don't know.... i'd expect anything from the U.$ government, in fact, probably from any powerful nation...

and even if mustard gas is used in those "training chambers", it could be considered "homicide" if a good lawyer argued against it...

that, sir, is tear gas, not mustard.

Armo, do you really know what mustard gas does to people? .........

being gay is part of my identity, and i am proud of it, yes. just as i am proud of being Armenian and British. in fact, those are the ONLY three things that i am proud of. however, pride should not exceed the margins of self-interest into hatred of others who are outside that pride circle (meaning heterosexual, non-Armenian, non-British people in my case)... When you meet gay people, you do not need to say you're heterosexual. It's already taken into account, because your sexuality (and others' as well) is in my face every single day, wherever I go. and if i'm gonna be silent and pretend that i'm "one of you" just cos it makes you feel good about it [reassures you that you're doing the right thing, or what have you], then no, i'm not about to shut up or hide my identity... just like i'm not about to hide my Armenian patch on my backpack just cos there are Turks 'round the corner who might not like it and possibly hurt me.. no, i am not married, and i am not planning on getting married any time soon. however, i don't think people know what their future would bring, and i want to keep my choices open (after having the right for the choice -- which is what this thread is all about - same-sex marriage)..

what? sorry didn't understand the first sentence... what i meant by using that example is that you can always claim to have predicted someone's answer/thoughts after they've told ya...... yeah, and ur point is? how are they comparable? and as a person who's so much into tradition, why are you using science to try and prove your points? i mean, we Armenians should respect the beliefs of our ancestors, right? our ancestors believed that faith could cure.. so if one of your significant other gets ill with cancer (god forbid), i am sure you would only pray and leave it all up to god... your next pointless point? (sorry, i can't predict)

the trial is probably gonna be private and under American law (not international law) [no wonder - poor Rumsfield & co. would be in hellhole with milosevic & co. if there were a public and just trial], or so i read... U.$ propaganda is only good when it comes to communism other than that, i think it's very poor (not to mention a load of BS that only stupid people can believe -- but then again, that's what propaganda is all about? lol) -- nothing compared to Nazi propaganda.

do you know the egg story of Colombus? [i don't remember the full story or the way it's usually told, but here's the gist of it] well, Colombus calls the sailors on his ship one day and tells them that whoever can make an egg stand on a table vertically will get [i don't remember what]... so they all try and try to get the egg to stand on its tip, but they can't... so they ask him to tell them the solution (i.e. how it's done).. so he takes an egg, breaks the tip by knocking it on the table gently and puts it on its tip.... and they all go "oh, THAT!!! well, we already knew that!!" and Colombus then told them "if you already knew, why didn't you do it?" so you get the point (i hope) exactly. you just proved my point. you are so caught up in your own false assumptions that because it's done so often it's sacred, that you can't even imagine a small variation of it..

Right. but you ARE aware that they are children, not adults who are fully aware of what reality is all about, right? You are seriously cracking me up (how's that for an oxymoron? <_< ) whoever said gays keep their feelings secret and live celibate lives? it might be that their families didn't care enough to ask or wonder, it might be that they didn't even see their own family (and frankly, if you were my dad or some other relative, i would just stop talking to you -- i'm glad my mom is not THAT bigoted lol).. so no, gay people don't remain celibate just cos they are not generally accepted by their extremist, fundamentalist families... although, some (a very small minority group) gay men/women do, just like some straight men/women whose parents oppose their choice of wife/husband or whatever.. you are treating groups as if they are 100% predictable.. well, guess what, people aren't that predictable... because if they were, there would be no argument, since we would both know what you're gonna say next and what i'm gonna say next, which occurs very rarely, if ever.

hmmmm,, well, if they had gas chamber training, there probably are gas chambers used by U.$.A.... either in Guantanamo Bay or elsewhere.. otherwise what's the point of training them? they train army recruits for practical things, not for things they wouldn't use in a lifetime... weird..

it's not? why do i see so many gay Armenians on gayarmeniadotcom? hmm?

omg Davo, are you for real??????!??!?!?!? dude... i don't care who it is who's doing whatever, I'm not about to cover it up. if an Armenian is a robber, I'm not about to cover it up cos he's an Armenian. where's your sense of justice? and i'm not about to deny my being gay or my being Armenian just cos your likes do not like Armenians to have a "bad image". bad image according to whom? i think the rest of the world is pretty much open-minded about homosexuality, and your effort to keep up the "image" has the opposite effect... not that i care about image. i am proud of being Armenian no matter what. the minority of Armenians (thieves, or people like you -- not that i'm comparing you with thieves lol) do not represent me or my nation/culture. and if you don't like living in a country that allows gay marriage, then i supppose you are free to leave that country, no? or go on a protest or whatever... but you have no right to tell me that because i am Armenian, and for the "general good" of Armenian people, i should deny my homosexuality or any part of my identity for that matter... i am not about to do that, so you can stop trying or even thinking about it.

exactly my point. that is off-topic.

damn... just $50??? how about $100 -- that MP3 player looks cool. lol..

what's your problem?? i was not replying to you... geez... ask Stormy, she's the one who mentioned it.. or better yet, go to hell already, you seem to be fit for it.

i didn't put those links only for you. and for the record, you are defending the U.S., which is why i said that Japs were put in concentration camps..

some pics of the concentration camp: http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2003/03/60371.html More on Japanese concentration camps in U.S.A: http://members.aol.com/EARTHSUN/Manzanar.html Reminds me of Armenian deportations (notice the declaration) a la Auschwitz camps...