Vanetsi Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 Tsk, tsk! :) Have you not heard that Turkey is "secular Islamic", whatever the hell that may mean. Is that an oxymoronic contradiction in terms or what! Arpa, what are you talking about! That's no more of an oxymoron than "cold fire." Wait, I guess you're right... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skhara Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 Turk jailed for 22 years for desecrating Ataturk busts LOL! These guys are mental cases. Their religion is Ataturkism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamavor Posted November 9, 2005 Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 LOL! These guys are mental cases. Their religion is Ataturkism. Yes and they rightfully belong to Europe! The sooner the better! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamavor Posted May 11, 2006 Report Share Posted May 11, 2006 TURKISH SPEAKER VIEWS ARMENIAN ALLEGATIONS, ADDRESSES SWEDISH PARLIAMENT Anatolia news agency, Ankara 9 May 2006 Stockholm, 9 May: "Turkey will never recognize so-called Armenian genocide because such a thing has not happened in our history," Turkish Parliament Speaker Bulent Arinc said on Tuesday [9 May]. Arinc, who is currently paying a state visit to Sweden, responded to questions of Swedish MPs at the parliament. Upon a question about so-called Armenian genocide, Arinc said: "This issue has been discussed for a long time. It is a fact that tragic events happened during the World War I. However, there is not any court verdict that Turks committed genocide against Armenians. Also Turks, Arabs and Kurds died during the World War I. Therefore, it is a serious mistake to say that only Armenians were subject to genocide." "Armenians had always lived freely during the Ottoman Empire era. Last year, we proposed Armenia to set a joint independent commission of historians to research the issue. However, Armenia turned down Turkey's proposal. On the other hand, Turkey's archives are kept open for researchers," he stressed. When asked whether Turkish people were ready for EU membership, Arinc said: "Turkish people have always wanted to become a member of the EU. Although Turkey has fulfilled the necessary criteria, the EU asked Turkey to fulfil additional criteria. We do not want any privileges, the EU should not discriminate Turkey. Turkish people regret such humiliation and discrimination." "The EU is a 40-year process for Turkey. Our relations with the EU are based on international agreements and mutual interests," he said. Replying to another question, Arinc said: "Turkey is a secular and democratic state. Our citizens worship freely." "Turkish people's religious belief has not prevented secular Turkey from being an indispensable part of Europe so far, and it also has not prevented Turkey from being member of organizations which represent the Western world," said Turkish Parliament Speaker Bulent Arinc. He added: "Nobody questioned our religion when Turkey both joined NATO in 1952 and defended freedom during Cold War in Europe." Arinc addressed parliamentarians at Swedish parliament on Tuesday. He said: "Swedish parliament has a respectful place in the world. Sweden is one of the leading countries that preserve democratic values and contribute to peace and harmony. Similarly, Turkey preserves democratic values in its region and produces stability by contributing to peace, harmony and dialogue of civilizations. Peaceful, realistic and coherent foreign policy is our basis on the path to modernization." "The will of Turkish people and their spiritual values are two basic elements of our foreign policy," noted Arinc. "We are pleased that all political parties in Swedish parliament support Turkey's full EU membership. Although there are people who are against Turkey's membership, the number of people who support Turkey is increasing each day," added Arinc. "Those who oppose to Turkey's EU membership are concerned about our population and our religion. Our religion has not prevented us from being an indispensable part of Europe so far. It will not obstruct our membership to organizations representing the Western values. Turkey is one of the founder members of the Council of Europe. It means that Turkey has played an active and constructive role in efforts to shape the project for a political Europe from the very beginning. When Turkey joined NATO in 1952 and defended freedom in Europe during the Cold War era, no one questioned our religion," he said. Arinc said: "The EU showed its strategic vision and its will by formally opening accession talks on 5 October 2005. The screening process has been continuing since then. We expect the EU to start negotiations on at least two chapter headings during the presidency of Austria." "Turkey will create new political and economic horizons for the EU, and it will further strengthen the EU in its efforts to become a global actor. After Turkey's accession, the EU's influence will increase in a huge area from the Balkans to Caucasus, from Central Asia to Mediterranean and broader Middle East," he said. Arinc added: "Turkey has the potential to make important contributions to the EU's joint foreign and security policy and to the European security and defence policy." PS: Very entertaining interveiw! Turkish denial of the Genocide is not a novelty. I just want to remind the turkish bastard that while Turks, Arabs and Kurds also died during World War I, their property remained untouched by the Turks. More over, Kurds played the game and became the right hand in the execution of the Armenians, Assyrians and Pontic Greeks. My prediction is that after the inclusion of Bulgaria, Turkey, Romania and the rest of the Balkans in the EU we will witness a interesting phenomenon. Countries like Sweden, Germany, France and Nederlands would thank EU and leave the Union. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takoush Posted May 11, 2006 Report Share Posted May 11, 2006 (edited) PS: Very entertaining interveiw! Turkish denial of the Genocide is not a novelty. I just want to remind the turkish bastard that while Turks, Arabs and Kurds also died during World War I, their property remained untouched by the Turks. More over, Kurds played the game and became the right hand in the execution of the Armenians, Assyrians and Pontic Greeks. Furthermore Gams, if up to 2 Million Armenians were massacred by those bastard Turks, about 800,000 Assyrians were massacred, and also Greeks, especially on or about Smyrna's massacres in 1922. Again, first to the Armenians then to the Greeks. Yet Turks and Kurds played the roll of committing the massacres not getting killed themselves. My prediction is that after the inclusion of Bulgaria, Turkey, Romania and the rest of the Balkans in the EU we will witness a interesting phenomenon. Countries like Sweden, Germany, France and Nederlands would thank EU and leave the Union. A while ago I used to not wish and even was afraid that Turkey would join the EU. Now I hope they'll join it so that I'll see what will happen to the European nations as you have mentioned a scenario above. Edited May 11, 2006 by Anahid Takouhi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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