mx5 Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 http://www.space.com/astronotes/astronotes.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anileve Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 I’ve always wondered why no one has conducted an extensive search for Noah’s ark? Having the advanced technology, satellites and helicopters and other machinery plus the obsessed with religion scientists and religious leaders with enough money to sponsor the operation, and no one has made the trip? Does anyone know if excavations have been administrated previously and what were some of the conclusions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellthecat Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 I’ve always wondered why no one has conducted an extensive search for Noah’s ark? Having the advanced technology, satellites and helicopters and other machinery plus the obsessed with religion scientists and religious leaders with enough money to sponsor the operation, and no one has made the trip? Does anyone know if excavations have been administrated previously and what were some of the conclusions? Plenty have - mostly consisting of insane Americans, most of which are now dead (the late 1990s was not good for the health of ark-nuts). You cannot find that which is not there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 I wrote a long and sarcastic note but I decided to not air. Maybe some other time. But basically if there ever was Noah and an Ark the jews would have explored it long time ago. They don't, they don't even talk about it. Do you know why? Beacuse they know they have perpetuated the hoax of all times. They don't believe a word of it. And we are the butt of the joke. Joke or no joke, I wish we had control of the site, we could have suckered billions out of those ark-nuts. :taz: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 You cannot find that which is not there. I disagree. What is there depend on human interpretation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anileve Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 I wrote a long and sarcastic note but I decided to not air. Maybe some other time. But basically if there ever was Noah and an Ark the jews would have explored it long time ago. They don't, they don't even talk about it. Do you know why? Beacuse they know they have perpetuated the hoax of all times. They don't believe a word of it. And we are the butt of the joke. Joke or no joke, I wish we had control of the site, we could have suckered billions out of those ark-nuts. :taz: I absolutely agree! If there was a boat of the Biblical Nature, jews would have scraped their clever little hands and toes to get to the bottom of it. Otherwise I think it's more convenient to wrap it up in a mystery package to have some fictional proof of Biblical accuracy. The only thing that's valid in the Bible is the slight hint in the direction of extraterrestrial beings involved in the human creation, which are not considered seriously. Yep, that's right, we were lab rats, mutations, offspring of "extraterrestrial beings" and their lab experiments. Verchaket! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 I absolutely agree! If there was a boat of the Biblical Nature, jews would have scraped their clever little hands and toes to get to the bottom of it. Otherwise I think it's more convenient to wrap it up in a mystery package to have some fictional proof of Biblical accuracy. The only thing that's valid in the Bible is the slight hint in the direction of extraterrestrial beings involved in the human creation, which are not considered seriously. Yep, that's right, we were lab rats, mutations, offspring of "extraterrestrial beings" and their lab experiments. Verchaket! Are you OK dear? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anileve Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 Are you OK dear? Sure, I have no idea why an individual who speaks of multiple universes would ask me if I am ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azat Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 Sure, I have no idea why an individual who speaks of multiple universes would ask me if I am ok. HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA. errr. oops. sorry Domino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arts&Arms Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 I personally don't want the Arc to be found. I like it the way it is today. People wondering about if it's really there or not keeps the excitement of the new generations going. If they find it, the turks and the Americans will make it a tourist attraction and will abuse our mountain just to make money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 I guess I lost an occasion to shut up. I'm speachless. An advise to myself. Never ask a lady if she is OK, she'll interprate it the wrong way. You just took back your #1 position Azat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellthecat Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 I wrote a long and sarcastic note but I decided to not air. Awww ...please do! Back in 1992 or maybe 93 or 94 I was in a hotel lobby in Kars when the leader of a party of ark-nuts was asking the desk clerk about how to hire a helecopter to fly over Ararat. I think he thought that it would be like hiring a car! And he didn't seem to realise that the whole mountain was in a military zone, and that there was a shooting war going on between Armenia and Azerbaijan just over the border from the mountain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koko Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 (edited) I personally don't want the Arc to be found. I like it the way it is today. People wondering about if it's really there or not keeps the excitement of the new generations going. If they find it, the turks and the Americans will make it a tourist attraction and will abuse our mountain just to make money They have already "found"a bit of wood (arceologs) that they say could be the rests of the Noaha ark. The turks have already made a buissness out of it!!! And as you might know the armenians aren't "allowed" near ararat. Edited April 27, 2004 by koko Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExtraHye Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 Expedition Seeks Noah's Ark By HOPE YEN, AP WASHINGTON (April 26) - An expedition is being planned for this summer to the upper reaches of Turkey's Mount Ararat where organizers hope to prove an object nestled amid the snow and ice is Noah's Ark. A joint U.S.-Turkish team of 10 explorers plans to make the arduous trek up Turkey's tallest mountain, at 17,820 feet, from July 15 to August 15, subject to the approval of the Turkish government, said Daniel P. McGivern, president of Shamrock-The Trinity Corporation of Honolulu, Hawaii. The goal: to enter what they believe to be a mammoth structure some 45 feet high, 75 feet wide and up to 450 feet long that was exposed in part by last summer's heat wave in Europe. "We are not excavating it. We are not taking any artifacts. We're going to photograph it and, God willing, you're all going to see it," McGivern said. Explorers have long searched for an ark on the high slopes of Mount Ararat, where the biblical account of the Great Flood places it. In 1957, Turkish air force pilots spotted a boat-shaped formation in Agri province. The government did not pursue the sighting, however. The entire area, including Mount Ararat, was off limits to foreigners because of Soviet complaints that explorers were U.S. spies. That ban was lifted in 1982, and since then teams of explorers have visited the area but have been unable to substantiate any claim of an ark. McGivern and Ahmet Ali Arslan, a Turkish mountain climber who grew up in a town near Mount Ararat, say satellite photos have helped them pinpoint a more exact location. Arslan will be leading the expedition. The biblical account in the Book of Genesis says that after the great deluge, the ark came to rest on the mountain with Noah's family and a cargo of male and female pairs of every kind of animal. Geologists say even though there is evidence of a flood in Mesopotamia in Sumerian times, it is not possible for a ship to make landfall at an altitude as high as Mount Ararat. 04/26/04 15:28 EDT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellthecat Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 Take a look at the digitalglobe.com website, which has free low resolution versions of the satellite photos. It's revealing where in the world there have been photographs taken (i.e. someone has asked and paid for them to be taken) - huge areas of Iraq of course, and much of northern Iran especially the Tabriz area, and all of the Turkish-Syrian and Iraqi-Syrian border areas, and Chechnia, Almost nothing from Azerbaijan, or Georgia. Revealing - but I'm not sure exactly what it reveals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
America-Hye Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 (edited) The Turkish government will stop the expedition. They know what it is up there. If discovered, it will create another situation in Turkey similar to the revelation about Ataturk's'adopted daughter. An ancient Armenian monastery is NOT what the Turks want the world to be educated about. Edited May 1, 2004 by America-Hye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 Gentlemen, Ladies! Are we b-ARK-ing up the wrong tree? The ARK has moved! Looky here, and look for the Armenian connection. :) http://english.pravda.ru/science/19/94/377/11902_Noah.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koko Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 (edited) there are plenty of armenian churches and places already in turkey wich has been found. Its not very hard for them to change the name, from armenian to turkish. It will not be an armenian monstary but a turkish(in the time when they were christians, u know...) Edited April 27, 2004 by koko Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurgen Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 No it will be an ancient 'ruin' of 'Turkish civilization' I believe that's the official excuse for branding our curches as 'Turkish'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebastia Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 (edited) people, people, people, they are wasting their time. The Noah's Arc is not there. mer het ekela america Edited April 30, 2004 by Sebastia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armat Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 I guess I lost an occasion to shut up. I'm speachless. An advise to myself. Never ask a lady if she is OK, she'll interprate it the wrong way. You just took back your #1 position Azat. also never say you are fat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vigil Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 (edited) I wrote a long and sarcastic note but I decided to not air. Maybe some other time. But basically if there ever was Noah and an Ark the jews would have explored it long time ago. They don't, they don't even talk about it. Do you know why? Beacuse they know they have perpetuated the hoax of all times. They don't believe a word of it. And we are the butt of the joke. Joke or no joke, I wish we had control of the site, we could have suckered billions out of those ark-nuts. Blasphemy! Now you are going to tell us that Moses never existed? LIES! Yes, tragically it is a hoax and what is even more scary is that Christians are the butt of the joke. Makes you really think about the phrase "if you are tricked once, shame on him, but if you are tricked again, shame on you"? people, people, people, they are wasting their time. The Noah's Arc is not there. It has immigrated to America and is currently in Glendale, looking for a way to get a green card!!!! I take it you are a Native American? Edited May 31, 2004 by Vigil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THOTH Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detai...=glance&s=books A great book - centered around this idea of the arc on Ararat...with lots of other (cool) stuff - highly recomended...fiction (of course)...perhaps for Junes book of the month eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasun Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 I wonder how much money would any of you bet that Noah ark didn't exist, as if you have yourselves searched every square inch of Ararat and are so sure about it. What if it was found one day? As for me I don't really know if it existed but I would never claim it didn't exist because I liked it that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vigil Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 (edited) Lets begin at the source... In the past did a historical figure known as "Moses" truly exist? If you can prove to me that this figure actually existed than maybe everything else has some truth to it after all. I just find it strange how the "elite media" has not already circulated it through the various media outlets. This man basically coined the term "one god" so how come no schalor takes his existence seriously? Edited May 31, 2004 by Vigil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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