CheekY Posted November 7, 2003 Report Share Posted November 7, 2003 (edited) why do so many armenian men(especially hayastantsis) like to control their women?? (too much pressure!) and some women obey them like slaves... i don't get it! do they do that to avoid a beating or do they "love and respect" their husbands/bfs too much? or is it the wife/gf's duty to shutup and obey like some animal? Edited September 9, 2004 by MosJan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormig Posted November 7, 2003 Report Share Posted November 7, 2003 why do so many armenian men(especially hayastantsis) like to control their women?? (too much pressure!) and some women obey them like slaves... i don't get it! do they do that to avoid a beating or do they "love and respect" their husbands/bfs too much? or is it the wife/gf's duty to shutup and obey like some animal? I'd say to each their own, but then there's the element of society pressuring, too. Yeah, what is so special about men, "rulers of the household" - just because they can get blood displacement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExtraHye Posted November 7, 2003 Report Share Posted November 7, 2003 I think it has a lot to do with the way they were broth up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasun Posted November 7, 2003 Report Share Posted November 7, 2003 Skittles, it may seem outwardly that men control women, but in most cases it is the opposite but is often invisible. While men you are talking about are straightforward for their control and do not hide, women trade pleasure with control, kind of trick men into controlled relationship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheekY Posted November 7, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2003 they don't respect but expect to be respected...wife=baby making, cooking, cleaning machinesome marry the girl for her looks and her "hamestutyun" then try to change her Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KavorKin99 Posted November 7, 2003 Report Share Posted November 7, 2003 I dont think it's really the control thing..some women like it because they like their men strict you know lol but i mean if women like they dont like it they can always find another guy..like my husband his the controlling type maybe because im young im 19 and he's 24 so like maybe because im young lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasun Posted November 7, 2003 Report Share Posted November 7, 2003 they don't respect but expect to be respected...wife=baby making, cooking, cleaning machinesome marry the girl for her looks and her "hamestutyun" then try to change her If you are talking about women in Armenia they do get a lot of special respect along with doing housework. Its a cultural thing, there is not right or wrong. Women are certainly not slaves of men in Armenia, I never heard them complaining about being controlled or such. Well, there are always deviations from the general culture... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KavorKin99 Posted November 7, 2003 Report Share Posted November 7, 2003 whatever floats persons boat...hehe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheekY Posted November 7, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2003 well maybe they hate it but are scared to admit it...i've seen and heard about those things so much...i know there are nice guys but there are also lots of abusive ones whose wives are too scared to speak up... or they think that it's their "destiny" or whatever and cope.maybe the new generation isn't like that...i don't know...am i too pessimistic? kavorkin i think that when the guy is too strict it's because he doesn't trust the girl much... i've even heard some people say you should keep the woman on a leash or something like that... i think it's mostly the men who need the leash! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KavorKin99 Posted November 7, 2003 Report Share Posted November 7, 2003 ya skittles (cute kitty) lol i mean like i dont think my husband dosent trust me it cn be a jealous thing u know like i stopped making guy friends because my husband didnt like that ya know it's weird but lol oh weel ya know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THOTH Posted November 7, 2003 Report Share Posted November 7, 2003 K99 - if he trusted you then why should it matter who you make friends with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KavorKin99 Posted November 7, 2003 Report Share Posted November 7, 2003 THOTH he does..it's a jealous thing u know i dont know how to explain it but i mean he does trust me u know or he wouldnt of married me u get it or did i confuse u lol thanks muahz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azat Posted November 8, 2003 Report Share Posted November 8, 2003 skittles shouldn't your question be "Why do Armenian women allow Armenian men to control them?" Because I see those same Armenian men with foreign women and you would think that they all are pussycats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheekY Posted November 8, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2003 skittles shouldn't your question be "Why do Armenian women allow Armenian men to control them?" Because I see those same Armenian men with foreign women and you would think that they all are pussycats. hehe makes more sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheekY Posted November 8, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2003 well maybe they know that foreign (hot)women will leave them if they try to control them so that’s why they act like pussycats? and they think that Armenian women are “hamest” and respect their men no matter what…anyway i think if someone hurts you (both physically and emotionally) and doesn't let you live a normal life it’s better to dump them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azat Posted November 8, 2003 Report Share Posted November 8, 2003 AMAN... Life is too short to waste it with a person who "hurts" you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-=VAHE=- Posted November 18, 2003 Report Share Posted November 18, 2003 Dont mistake those men that so called control their women and say that they hurt their women. Hurting a woman is different than what they do. I think its Cultural. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KavorKin99 Posted November 18, 2003 Report Share Posted November 18, 2003 ya vahe i agree with u Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExtraHye Posted November 18, 2003 Report Share Posted November 18, 2003 Vahe, I'm sure your a great guy, but I disagree with your opinion on this subject. What's so cultural about male adults controlling there female adult significant others? Don't you think she has the intelligence to make her own dissections... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted November 18, 2003 Report Share Posted November 18, 2003 What's so cultural about male adults controlling there female adult significant others? Don't you think she has the intelligence to make her own dissections...It is very cultural at times. Next time pay close attention to the what the derder is saying in a traditional armenian church wedding. You'll soon realize that the words used for the female and the male are often different. Even some of the english versions contain references to "honor and obey" for the woman and "to have and to hold" for the male. If I were the girl in a situation like this, I'd say HELL NO... I don't. I see it everywhere ... it's in the heart and sole of the traditional Armenian culture (not just Armenians of course) for the woman to be controlled and basically be the husband's pet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KavorKin99 Posted November 18, 2003 Report Share Posted November 18, 2003 i like control lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheekY Posted November 18, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2003 Dont mistake those men that so called control their women and say that they hurt their women. Hurting a woman is different than what they do. I think its Cultural. they control their women and if she doesn't "obey" they might smack her in the face and abuse her verbally...well i'm sorry but a lof of couples i've met are kind of like that...the men expect the woman to do as she is told otherwise she's considered to be spoiled and should be punished! oh one more thing...i think most armenian men are sick with jealousy! just because they might cheat doesn't necessarily mean the girl will too! i'm a bit today lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KavorKin99 Posted November 18, 2003 Report Share Posted November 18, 2003 i don't know hun most girls like control lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sev-mard Posted November 18, 2003 Report Share Posted November 18, 2003 Even some of the english versions contain references to "honor and obey" for the woman and "to have and to hold" for the male. Never thought about it like this....nice point. Never saw that angle..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheekY Posted November 18, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2003 i like control lol maybe you like it because it makes you feel he cares a lot about you...but in the end it's really a lot of pressure and they get used to you running after them and doing whatever they tell you... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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