hyebruin Posted September 27, 2003 Report Share Posted September 27, 2003 I realized something about myself today that I had not known before!!! I never though much about people saying "jesus christ, what is....etc." when they're stressed out or as an exclamatory remark...but today a friend of mine (who is NOT christian) said the whole name a couple of times as a "stress response"??? (don't know?)...and I did not like it one bit!! didn't say anything, but I was thinking, well I wouldn't just blurt out "Mohammed" or "Moses"or "Krishna" or "Buddha"...and I'm not too religious! but that seemed very disrespectful especially since it was not even her religion!! Anyone else shares this sentiment??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasun Posted September 27, 2003 Report Share Posted September 27, 2003 Yes, I knew someone who used to say 'Jesus' very often. When I learned that he is a Jew I was surprised (but not offended, why would you feel offended?). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasun Posted September 27, 2003 Report Share Posted September 27, 2003 Oh I see, because of using in vain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamavor Posted September 27, 2003 Report Share Posted September 27, 2003 Most people tend to develop personal "relationship" with J.C. when they are totally screwed up. They have been through hell (too much irresponsible sex, too much irresponsible drug use, too much irresponsible other things) and what is the cure -God. They are new born, they are clean as mountain dew, and I totally believe them. The question is where was J.C. or their parents and the society as a whole before of all of this - answer: that was God's plan. In order to believe you first need to be screwed up. I think that answers the question about why there are Armenian Protestants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nairi Posted September 27, 2003 Report Share Posted September 27, 2003 Newcomers only pick up on the language that is used by the native speakers. You can't blame a non-Christian in America for thinking that saying "Jesus Christ" is just another commonplace utterance that many/most Americans use when they're feeling a certain way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted September 27, 2003 Report Share Posted September 27, 2003 I realized something about myself today that I had not known before!!! I never though much about people saying "jesus christ, what is....etc." when they're stressed out or as an exclamatory remark...but today a friend of mine (who is NOT christian) said the whole name a couple of times as a "stress response"??? (don't know?)...and I did not like it one bit!! didn't say anything, but I was thinking, well I wouldn't just blurt out "Mohammed" or "Moses"or "Krishna" or "Buddha"...and I'm not too religious! but that seemed very disrespectful especially since it was not even her religion!! Anyone else shares this sentiment??? A lot of people who are conscious of the implication will mumble the words as "jeez,jeesh" or even "sheesh".As to other deities Moslems, more specifically Arabs may not use the names as cuss words but they do invoke it as witness, specially when they are lying. It is very common to hear them exclaim "Eesa, Mousa, Mohammed". One thing that many don't realize, specially Armenians from ME cultures that "vallah" is invoking God in vain. It is from the Arabic "wa Allah" (and God, Turks don't 'w' , it becomes 'v')specially when they are lying or have to impress as true.Oddly enough more Armenians use this expression than Moslems, maybe because they don't know the mening and feel awkwardthe most offensive word that many Armenians use is "yallah", some may even think it is Armenian. Again ironically I hear this used more often by Armenians than Moslems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nairi Posted September 27, 2003 Report Share Posted September 27, 2003 Actually I hear vallah and yallah used very frequently among Muslims, Turks and Arabs alike, here in Holland. As well as mashallah and inshallah. In fact, it almost seems as if they use any of these in or at the beginning of almost every sentence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamavor Posted September 27, 2003 Report Share Posted September 27, 2003 I use the above Allah words as curse words or when I like to ridicule somebody. Armenians from ME included Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arad9 Posted September 28, 2003 Report Share Posted September 28, 2003 I worked with a guy who was from Banglesdesh. He considered himself a devote Muslim. One day he got up set and said "Jesus Christ!". I went over to him and told him, from now on when I get upset I going say "Oh Mohammed!" he looked a bit preplexed when I said that. And I explained to him what that phrase actually means. He apolgized for his mistake, and understood that using Christ's name was taken in vain. This reminds me of a joke I once heard, an Armenian has an American friend as they grow older the American's mother dies and the Armenian goes to her funeral. In sincerity during the funeral the Armenian asks his American friend,"How are you doing?" and the American replies, "fine thanks how are you?". It is a shamed that people say alot of things reflexively instead of really thinking of what they are saying. Which reminds me of another story. A associate of mine who worked in the UN told me that the when the Americans working in the consolate in Armenia they experienced culture shock when they asked an Armenian how the are doing, and the Armenian gave an actual extensive reply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted September 28, 2003 Report Share Posted September 28, 2003 I've always got a kick out the more explicit "Jesus F__ing Christ" But the best "parody" of this that I have seen was in Simpsons ... Homer was about to be attacked by a charging Rino and he quickly utters something like "Jesus, Allah, Buddha, I love you all." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sev-mard Posted December 5, 2003 Report Share Posted December 5, 2003 I think it's all past being used in vain. Jesus Christ is a knee jerk reaction response just like saying sh!t when something happens. This may not be cool to many ppl, but i think it's true. Somebody said that new comers will copy the popular talk, and this is so true. During my time in Japan I heard japanese ppl when speaking their broken english go, "jeeez-uuus cry-ice!" I had to laugh. I think it's been imbedded in many ppl psyche as a knee jerk reaction, which is weird because if we're not supposed to take his name in vain, who started it!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vava Posted December 5, 2003 Report Share Posted December 5, 2003 It is a knee-jerk reaction - just like 'Oh my God' or, 'Oh God'. Anybody know where the 'don't use in vain' rule comes from? I really don't think it has ever been an 'official' wrong-doing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewish Friend Posted December 5, 2003 Report Share Posted December 5, 2003 I realized something about myself today that I had not known before!!! I never though much about people saying "jesus christ, what is....etc." when they're stressed out or as an exclamatory remark...but today a friend of mine (who is NOT christian) said the whole name a couple of times as a "stress response"??? (don't know?)...and I did not like it one bit!! didn't say anything, but I was thinking, well I wouldn't just blurt out "Mohammed" or "Moses"or "Krishna" or "Buddha"...and I'm not too religious! but that seemed very disrespectful especially since it was not even her religion!! Anyone else shares this sentiment??? I hear you ! I don't use the expression much and certainly not on purpose, but if it should come out by accident and I am near a Christian I apologize, even though most Christians i know are not religious and use that expression almost as a curse often. It is wrong. I also get mad and correct people who sayG-d da--it. I don't believe in cursing the Lord for our problems. JF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sev-mard Posted December 5, 2003 Report Share Posted December 5, 2003 Like who started it? Why do you say that when something bad, crazy, unbelieveable happends. I mean it'd be crazy if that applied to other people. Someone stubs their toe... In Tibet...."Dalai Lama!!!!" In China...."Oh my Mao!!!" In parts of Persia and India ..." Oh Zoraster !" just doesnt quite roll off the tongue there does it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewish Friend Posted December 5, 2003 Report Share Posted December 5, 2003 ...."Oh my Mao!!!" lol. didn't George Harrison sing a song called "Oh My Mao"?..lol JF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted December 5, 2003 Report Share Posted December 5, 2003 ...."Oh my Mao!!!"Is he the guy that had a farm? Eeee ay eeee ay oooo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CheekY Posted December 5, 2003 Report Share Posted December 5, 2003 It is a shamed that people say alot of things reflexively instead of really thinking of what they are saying. Which reminds me of another story. A associate of mine who worked in the UN told me that the when the Americans working in the consolate in Armenia they experienced culture shock when they asked an Armenian how the are doing, and the Armenian gave an actual extensive reply. this reminded me Armenian #1 barev akhpersArmenian #2 barev “whoever” jan (hug kiss lol)Armenian #1 vonts es, inch ka chka?Armenian #2 hech voch mi ban, ko mot?Armenian #1 vochinch…..long pause….urish inch ka???blah blah blah blah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anileve Posted December 6, 2003 Report Share Posted December 6, 2003 Like who started it? Why do you say that when something bad, crazy, unbelieveable happends. I mean it'd be crazy if that applied to other people. Someone stubs their toe... In Tibet...."Dalai Lama!!!!" In China...."Oh my Mao!!!" In parts of Persia and India ..." Oh Zoraster !" just doesnt quite roll off the tongue there does it. Oh lord (oops I did it)! That was so hilarious I almost popped a button on my pants from laughter (well actually my pants are string ties, but regardless it was just for emphasis of a hysterical content). I swear that I, from now one will give up my regular usage of “Jesus Christ on a freaking crutch and adopt a new knee jerker “Oh my D. Lama!” That is just brilliant, thanks sev mard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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