art Posted April 3, 2001 Report Share Posted April 3, 2001 I have read several books covering this topic by authors such as Kafka and Frankl. It has only left me to ponder more questions than resolving the ones I had before. I would also like to know if the meaningless of life plays a role in the suicide of man. [ April 02, 2001: Message edited by: art ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiner Posted April 3, 2001 Report Share Posted April 3, 2001 I definitely think that the feeling of life being a meaningless struggle is a factor in committing suicide. Of course there are many other factors such as loneliness, pain, hatred, etc. Everybody has their own opinion when it comes to the existence of a meaning to life. I think most people would say there is one, but their reasons would differ greatly. It is a question that does not really have a specific universal answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
art Posted April 3, 2001 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2001 I feel like most people are living in a dream world where they dont really realize the meaning of life itself. Our life span(usually 73 yrs.) doesn't even make up 1/1000000 of a percent on this universe. We're are born then we die. Would it make a difference if we weren't born? Does our existence have meaning? I know my mood sounds extremly pessimistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ Posted April 3, 2001 Report Share Posted April 3, 2001 In 1998, in a professional conference in Chicago, in which I was a participant, a Chicago prominent billionaire, Sam Zell, was invited to speak as a member of the panel of the conference. He told as the following story: After becoming multimillionaire, a friend of his has become very curious about the Meaning of Life. So he has started his search of a guru, who could help him to find the answer to the Big Question. After months of search, he has managed to find a guru in the mountains of China. So he has made the decision to go and climb the mountain (that has been a precondition for being seen by the guru) to have the opportunity to ask the question. Eventually, after several days of climbing (he has not been a young man), this person has reached the residence of the guru on the top of the mountain. He has introduced himself to the guru, and has told him that he is a very secure person (materially), but couldn’t get rest without finding the answer to the Big Question. And he has asked the guru, “What is the Meaning of Life?” The guru had replied, “The Life is a Fountain.” This has made the guy furious, and he has replied to the guru, “What, I have come all the way from Chicago, have climbed the mountain for several days to see you, and you tell me the Life is a Fountain?” To this the guru has replied, “Do you mean it is not?” [ April 03, 2001: Message edited by: MJ ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
art Posted April 4, 2001 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2001 I get the point MJ. : ) Can you tell us your personal opinion on the topic? Lately I have been reading the books by Carlos Castaneda whose life revolves around Don Juan(who I feed to be truly amazing) the Yaqui Indian. Don Juan is best at describing life and its ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ Posted April 4, 2001 Report Share Posted April 4, 2001 It seems like the old Art is gone, and we have a whole new phenomenon, here... P.S. I don't have a personal opinion about the meaning of life. [ April 03, 2001: Message edited by: MJ ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoC Posted April 4, 2001 Report Share Posted April 4, 2001 Meaning of life is different for everyone... Personally speaking, life is about eating great food, laughing with friends/loved ones, making love with as many beautiful women as possible, drinking a pint or two of Guinness (on tap of course), and listening to old school heavy metal while driving home after a long day of work. But that's just me.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
levonyeshilian Posted April 6, 2001 Report Share Posted April 6, 2001 Art, I don't think life has a meaning,but it is LIFE. Nothing in this world would be different if any of us were not born,there'd be someone else doing all the things we'd do...But we live,we have a life,so we must save it...From the one celled bacterias to human the basic instinct of all living organisms is to protect himself and being far away from what may harm him....But this is not all for a human because we have a brain too and it's not easy to protect it.Many of us has a job he doesn't like,shares the environment with people he doesn't like,lives in a place he hates but he can't etc.. So what we shall do????? I've tried to kill myself once and what i do when i'm down is to think'once i had beautiful days and i'll have again somewhere,sometime'. Life is not something meaningful as the books of Kafka ot Frankl but it's nice sometimes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiner Posted September 30, 2003 Report Share Posted September 30, 2003 The most simple, non sugarcoated, objective, nonphilosophical, straightforward answer for today's world is "making money". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasun Posted September 30, 2003 Report Share Posted September 30, 2003 I think the meaning of life is to be satisfied and happy. It all depends on the person how to find this satisfaction. Money seems to be the "obsession" of many Some "strange" people do not pursue material satisfaction but other ways of satisfaction - knowledge, spirituality, religion, stupidity, lust, power, death, etc. etc. It seems that every little step we take we pursue some way of satisfaction. It's another question whether we achieve it or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamavor Posted September 30, 2003 Report Share Posted September 30, 2003 (edited) YES, THERE IS MEANING OF LIFE! LOOK IN HERE http://armenians.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=7144 Edited September 30, 2003 by gamavor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasun Posted September 30, 2003 Report Share Posted September 30, 2003 YES, THERE IS MEANING OF LIFE! LOOK IN HERE http://armenians.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=7144 Thanks but doesn't work for me. I prefer Chinese food Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azat Posted September 30, 2003 Report Share Posted September 30, 2003 can someone ban Sasun from this forum? Actually me too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasun Posted September 30, 2003 Report Share Posted September 30, 2003 can someone ban Sasun from this forum? good idea !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamavor Posted September 30, 2003 Report Share Posted September 30, 2003 Thank you Azat! Now the link above makes more sense! Keep adding please! How about something based on Gin - I love juniper berries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azat Posted September 30, 2003 Report Share Posted September 30, 2003 no more drinks in my cookbook. Do you like deserts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted September 30, 2003 Report Share Posted September 30, 2003 I'm waiting for gamavor to start posting some of his favorite pictures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheekY Posted October 18, 2003 Report Share Posted October 18, 2003 I think you live to love and vice versa...but right now I think life is totally meaningless! I don't understand why we're born... Do we make a difference? Nothing really changes in the world except it's getting more developed to be destroyed again. Why are people so worried about repopulating the earth if everyone knows what's gonna happen in the end? Is it fun watching your kids suffer with all kinds of diseases?! I don't care about anything anymore...nothing really interests me and I just want it to end asap. So, meaning of life: you're born to suffer (most of your life) and die and rot away in your coffin! No one's even gonna remember you or miss you after a few years... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THOTH Posted October 18, 2003 Report Share Posted October 18, 2003 Isn't that we just ask this question enough? We live to find meaning...we create meaning for ourselves...sometimes we just exist...without meaning...but really - in a sense what difference does it make? I really don't think there is any one single answer - if even any real defintive answer at all - to this question... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiner Posted October 18, 2003 Report Share Posted October 18, 2003 Skittles,Even if life is a struggle (which it is since there is always conflict) it could be an enjoyable struggle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted October 19, 2003 Report Share Posted October 19, 2003 http://armenians.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=6885 This is the meaning of life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armen Posted October 19, 2003 Report Share Posted October 19, 2003 Cognize the material world and become independent. Happiness #1Cognize the astral world and become independent. Happiness #2Cognize your will and become independent. Happiness #3Cognize the happiness and become independent. Happiness #4Cognize the spirit. (non-alcoholic) I think finding the meaning of life is an individual matter for every person. Meanwhile the path is similar. If you don't have material, astral happiness, your will is surperessed and you don't have any other kind of happiness at hand, you're left alone with the spirit lacking all the necessary experience to deal with it. And you directly chose your next incarnation as a way out. That is why people commit suicides. Upgraded as of 10/18/2003 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyebruin Posted October 19, 2003 Report Share Posted October 19, 2003 Cognize the material world and become independent. Happiness #1Cognize the astral world and become independent. Happiness #2Cognize your will and become independent. Happiness #3Cognize the happiness and become independent. Happiness #4Cognize the spirit. (non-alcoholic) I think finding the meaning of life is an individual matter for every person. Meanwhile the path is similar. If you don't have material, astral happiness, your will is surperessed and you don't have any other kind of happiness at hand, you're left alone with the spirit lacking all the necessary experience to deal with it. And you directly chose your next incarnation as a way out. That is why people commit suicides. Upgraded as of 10/18/2003 very deep there! nice to see an armenian guy holding such beliefs!! that's really really awesome!! ~~~ i almost never speak of such things with people in general, 'cause they'll just think i'm nuts!! sad really! yet they're the ones going through life confused and without direction!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armat Posted October 19, 2003 Report Share Posted October 19, 2003 As the plants tilt towards the sunFor warmth and survival we too must find our sun. That is all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angel4hope Posted October 19, 2003 Report Share Posted October 19, 2003 hi people im a bit new here-- help me!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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